Just curious when you guys think we'll get the official 4.0.
I'm not sure for other devices, but for the Xperias, it will come sometime April 2012
May 17th, that's my guess.
One month, cause I'll find it on cheesecake
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One month, cause I'll find it on cheesecake
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What exactly is "Cheesecake"? I've seen it floating around and I think I used something like that for my Bionic (when I had it) to get an 893 update.
Motorola said that it will release 3-4 months read it on phonedog.com few weeks ago
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What exactly is "Cheesecake"? I've seen it floating around and I think I used something like that for my Bionic (when I had it) to get an 893 update.
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I like to think of it as an underground conglomerate akin to Fight Club.
We basically raid Motorola's engineering servers looking for test builds. The brave few (like me) might flash them, but usually it's better suited to pass the builds on to a developer.
Cheesecake is an app Phydo made to make it much easier. Before it would take hours.
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It will be released when it is ready.
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mistawolfe said:
I like to think of it as an underground conglomerate akin to Fight Club.
We basically raid Motorola's engineering servers looking for test builds. The brave few (like me) might flash them, but usually it's better suited to pass the builds on to a developer.
Cheesecake is an app Phydo made to make it much easier. Before it would take hours.
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Ahhh that makes sense! Now I know. Thanks!
Hopefully we can have a native ICS
Moto said beginning of 2012, however they did push updates back from their original dates announced so 2013?
June 30th
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Just an educational question, but why can't we just overwrite the kernel and bootloader the way the phone is right now? How exactly is it that motorola keeping us from uploading custom kernels and such?
If I'm not mistaken, they've signed the boot partition with an encrypted key. In order to overwrite it, you have access it & in order to access it, it's got to be unlocked & in order to unlock it you have to have the product-specific key. Without it you can't get permission to mount it as r/w. Think Motorola's chastity belt.
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Think Motorola's chastity belt.
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What a great way to thing about it
Give it another week tops.
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Give it another week tops.
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Im hopeful but not counting on it. I feel like a lot of dev might focus on bionic beast due out later this week. I really hope it happens within a week tho that would be amazing.
A weeks being very optimistic not that there's anything wrong with that tho.. because that would awesome; and hopefully the bionic will bring more attention to Motorola/tegra as a whole, rather than steal it from dx2, which would hopefully be in our favor.
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Give it another week tops.
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A weeks being very optimistic not that there's anything wrong with that tho.. because that would awesome; and hopefully the bionic will bring more attention to Motorola/tegra as a whole, rather than steal it from dx2, which would hopefully be in our favor.
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I was really hoping to see the bionic on the new omap5 processer. Maybe in a few months we will see that.
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A weeks being very optimistic not that there's anything wrong with that tho.. because that would awesome; and hopefully the bionic will bring more attention to Motorola/tegra as a whole, rather than steal it from dx2, which would hopefully be in our favor.
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It's an omap.
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Who watched the ICS launch and is even more angry about having a locked bootloader?
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I watched the event. Now hoping that the X2 is on the list to get the update.
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I am going to say that the X2 wont get it, at least not anytime soon until Moto breaks it down and skins it(so maybe next summer). The fact that there is so much built into the phone to function without buttons means that Moto has to build in and map their functionality. And, since supposedly the Xoom is the first to get it on tablet, you would think it would go to the Razr, then Bionic/Atrix 2/Photon 4g, THEN the lower end devices. Needless to say, I don't think you should get your hopes up.
I watched it though. I was VERY impressed with some of the things I saw! The lock screen portion with the video was really cool! However, I don't think I would want my phone to do that everytime, seems too tedious still. Maybe after the phone has been passive for 20 minutes or something like that.
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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I think the "thing" is Google wanting to buy Motorola Mobility
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Read this:
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How creditable is that fella, wolfe? 31 posts w/ 8 thx. If he had a connection like that you'd think his post count would be retarded with threads on unlocks since his buddy "...would come over to my house and unlock my bootloader".
Where can I watch a replay of the event?
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How creditable is that fella, wolfe? 31 posts w/ 8 thx. If he had a connection like that you'd think his post count would be retarded with threads on unlocks since his buddy "...would come over to my house and unlock my bootloader".
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Yeah, take it with a grain of salt for sure. Worth a read at least.
Here is why it had me thinking. Moto always blames Verizon for the BL. HTC and Sammy phones get unlocked all day. So why would Verizon bias Moto? It gets the gears churning boys...
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I don't believe any Moto phone has their bl unlocked, do they? The lock is all Moto. My gut is telling me if it were up to Google they would have all phones
unlocked and completely open.
Either way, thx for sharing! Good to see you lingering around here yet.
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ATRIX, photon (aka MoPho), OG Droid, XOOM, and a couple more I believe.
Unlocked.
Edit: eris = HTC. Garbage phone btw.
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Back on topic, I heard that all phones running 2.3 will get ics...that means us. So I have my hopes up. I also have my hopes that moto will make good on their deadline to unlock their devices.
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My thoughts are, with the patent wars, Google is trying to cover their ass right now. Until the proposed deal is approved, they are wanting to make sure that nothing slips thru the cracks that could be harmful to their cause in the hands of the opposition. Not to mention, they probably have some new devices in testing along with new hardware components that would be in Google's best interest not to have leaked until they are certified by the FCC. I am going to have to give Google the benefit of the doubt, and say until the deal is approved, they are doing what they can to cover their asses.
As far as VZW being to blame for Moto, I think it has to do with the fact that Moto is an American company, and they can be pressured by big Red. Whereas HTC and Samsung typically have a broader market share outside of the US. Especially with Sammy being a monstrosity of a Korean company in all terms. I lived in Korea for 2 years(Army), LG and Sammy run their world over their! LG is even the biggest ISP! They are leaps and bounds beyond what we have in the US over there though. Thanks to the FCC and FTC! My computer monitors are 2 Innopix 24" OLED 1920x1200 and I bought them there almost 4 years ago for $150/ea! I built my entire computer setup there Feb 2008, I still score a 6.8 on Windows experience index. Cost me less than $1,500 for what would have cost $4,000 easily to buy off of Best Buys shelf... Not to mention Apple, ugh.
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Back on topic, I heard that all phones running 2.3 will get ics...that means us. So I have my hopes up. I also have my hopes that moto will make good on their deadline to unlock their devices.
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The simple fact that they locked the Razr before it is even released, lends me to believe your hopes will be crushed. Sorry man, no reason to lock a phone during the same period you stated you would unlock them.
Now, if 4.0 is still a "Google Experience" as other phones update to it, without their blur's and sense's like honeycomb was for tablets, MAYBE.
Didn't I read ICS requires 1G of RAM?
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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According to a spokesman, the lockdown was at the request of the carrier -- VZW, in this case. I am so sick of the shenanigans ...
I sent a tweet to moto asking if they have a list of phones that is going to get the ICS update. Maybe they will respond.
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I read somewhere that ice cream sandwich has hardware acceleration. Yay! Lol
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I understand the locked bootloaders because VZW probably spends thousands of dollars replacing phones for people who don't know what they are doing, just trying to impress friends. But still, we payed for it, its ours, we should be able to break it if we want
And I think we will get ICS, it just might take longer than expected.
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I understand the locked bootloaders because VZW probably spends thousands of dollars replacing phones for people who don't know what they are doing, just trying to impress friends. But still, we payed for it, its ours, we should be able to break it if we want
And I think we will get ICS, it just might take longer than expected.
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Yea If I want to ruin my phone that should be my life choice.
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Motorola said that within 6 weeks after the release of ICS they would announce what phones will get the ICS update.
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Who's got the bawlz to break their silly vow of silence with Motorola regarding this update?
Let's get this update out of yer cache folder and where it belongs!
ON OUR PHONEZ!
Just create another account here at XDA with a new email. If you're skeert! The Moto-police will likely be watching since they're not updating ICS like should be
The funny thing this was leaked back on march 26th there's a thread about it over at droidrazr.com.
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However, the download on droidrzr was pulled already
You're assuming it's been pushed to the testers...
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overlord727 said:
However, the download on droidrzr was pulled already
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Yeah I know it sucks. It just shows ya Motorola has the updates ready it just takes them so long to release it.
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Does anyone here also think that if you sign on agreement or promise something, you don't break it at your best effort?
I am not from Moto and I dislike them. But just feel that if we don't keep such things it won't serve our community good for long run.
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You're assuming it's been pushed to the testers...
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Indeed...
jiwengang said:
Does anyone here also think that if you sign on agreement or promise something, you don't break it at your best effort?
I am not from Moto and I dislike them. But just feel that if we don't keep such things it won't serve our community good for long run.
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Try telling that to Motorola haha.
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The funny thing this was leaked back on march 26th there's a thread about it over at droidrazr.com.
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What was funny is when people downloaded it, it was the ICS leak and not this
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You're assuming it's been pushed to the testers...
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Of course it has.. they're being hush hush about it for some reason. It's certainly not the god damn cure for cancer. lol
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Of course it has.. they're being hush hush about it for some reason. It's certainly not the god damn cure for cancer. lol
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There's a reason why he said what he said. No one is being "hush hush" about anything yet...
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There's a reason why he said what he said. No one is being "hush hush" about anything yet...
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So you're saying Best Buy and Verizon are trolling? I'll commit 10 felonies..
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You're assuming it's been pushed to the testers...
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I still haven't received the push.
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Soak test hasn't started yet. I could really care less if they kick me out of the program or not lol.
Yeah, I'm probably not going to get a Motorola phone again; unless with acquisition by Google things start to change. I'm really angry that Motorola hasn't rolled out anything with leaks from their servers, leaks from Best Buy, and a soak test that was supposed to start today.
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jiwengang said:
Does anyone here also think that if you sign on agreement or promise something, you don't break it at your best effort?
I am not from Moto and I dislike them. But just feel that if we don't keep such things it won't serve our community good for long run.
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Does anybody else here also think that when Moto promised unlocked bootloaders before the end of 2011 they should have released it?
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Yeah, I'm probably not going to get a Motorola phone again; unless with acquisition by Google things start to change. I'm really angry that Motorola hasn't rolled out anything with leaks from their servers, leaks from Best Buy, and a soak test that was supposed to start today.
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There have been 2 updates since December, they definitely aren't as bad as LG or Samsung when it comes to it.
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There have been 2 updates since December, they definitely aren't as bad as LG or Samsung when it comes to it.
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....Plus, my Maxx is virtually flawless. Besides it's awesome specs, it's easily the most trouble free phone I've ever owned.
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....Plus, my Maxx is virtually flawless. Besides it's awesome specs, it's easily the most trouble free phone I've ever owned.
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The same goes for my razr.
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If only we "us humans" could band together and storm the gates fo TROLLOROLA and demand better customer service, communication, unlocked bootloaders, consequences for lying to their consumers.. I hear trumpets and snare drums.. I better stop.
Anyone else sick of waiting for this mythical unicorn we call ics.
I know, I know, the longer the wait the better. I entirely agree, just venting.....
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Not really. It will be nice, but I'm enjoying the phone as it is. I was using ICS roms on my dinc until I switched, so I know what to look forward to, but it was also a big laggy and rebooted a lot, so I have yet to enjoy a polished, official release on new hardware.
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Not really. It will be nice, but I'm enjoying the phone as it is. I was using ICS roms on my dinc until I switched, so I know what to look forward to, but it was also a big laggy and rebooted a lot, so I have yet to enjoy a polished, official release on new hardware.
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+1
I agree, just venting....I would rather wait as well.
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Only a few more weeks(I hope) . If it doesn't come in May and verizon doesn't get the GS3... Peace out Vzw. It's been real. Real disappointing
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I am sure ics for europe will come out around 30th may or so
So just wait guys
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Well if only there were no leaked ics, we wouldnt feel this way. Lets talk about ios 5. It didnt have any leaked os but users managed to wait for more than a year. It seems that when we know there is a better stuff, we still wanted more... and fast
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Well if only there were no leaked ics, we wouldnt feel this way. Lets talk about ios 5. It didnt have any leaked os but users managed to wait for more than a year. It seems that when we know there is a better stuff, we still wanted more... and fast
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You're comparing the average iPhone users to the most informed Android users. The average Android user has never even heard of Ice Cream Sandwich.
I do think it is ridiculous that the RAZR was advertised as "ICS upgradeable," and six months later there is still no official date set for release. I don't understand how Motorola even got away with advertising the phone that way. They should have said "Gingerbread, with the possibility that before your contract is up in two years there may be an update to ICS."
I've got ICS. It's amazing.
but I'm stuck like a fat kid in a tight hallway.
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I've got ICS. It's amazing.
but I'm stuck like a fat kid in a tight hallway.
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Hey now, I feel threatened by that metaphor.....
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Hey now, I feel threatened by that metaphor.....
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sorry G-dog, due to high consumption of Ice Cream Sammishes I too am large and in charge...
all the while enjoying the Hotel California of leaks.
I was also tired of waiting.wanted to sell it but i got chinese release. Anyway M sucks for their policy. Sell and forget.
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You're comparing the average iPhone users to the most informed Android users. The average Android user has never even heard of Ice Cream Sandwich.
I do think it is ridiculous that the RAZR was advertised as "ICS upgradeable," and six months later there is still no official date set for release. I don't understand how Motorola even got away with advertising the phone that way. They should have said "Gingerbread, with the possibility that before your contract is up in two years there may be an update to ICS."
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While I totally agree with this, I would like to say that I'd rather wait a few weeks for a solid ics build the get rushed into a buggy one.
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We will eventually get ICS but the question should be: When will we get our BL unlocked? oh well wait for kholk to fix the second core and run kexec
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I'm running the OG leak, and as much as I love it, it's starting to act up... I didn't pull the trigger on the 84 or 85 leaks, so hopefully in a couple of weeks, I'll be able to update to official ICS yumminess!
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Ummm... all signs point to ICS this month. 3 or 4 weeks out.
And to all who are claiming they'll sell their phones, I'll give the same response I did over in the Acer Iconia A500 section... WHY would you buy a phone you were unhappy with? Did you really buy it to just sit there in agony until ICS was released? Suffer horribly under Gingerbread until the promise of a new OS became reality? Really?
Same offer- I'll give you $50 for your oh-so-hated Gingerbread Razr. $55 if it's a Maxx.
sigh
Ha ha
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If GSM just goto china for a little while
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If GSM just goto china for a little while
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Motorola said it will release on Q2 2012, so I think we should wait till end of June
how do motorola or verizon decide on who gets ics first is it by last name or first name or by state i was just wondering if anyone knew
They're like "well, who'll be the next one to get the ics update, let's see... Oh, see that user? He bought razr a 8 mouths ago, he must be waiting a lot for the update, let's skip him...
Now, see this guy? He bought razr just a week ago, let's update him for the lolz."
And that's how, an update born.
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Or do they go by the size of your phone bill
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Neh, they searching a way to make their costumers mad.
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I'm pretty sure it is either random or by area.
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Well they do a wonderful job at that
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"Q&A Section Now Open - All Question Threads To Be Posted There -"
I think that is only visible on my screen, for some reason...
Anyway, as far as I know, nobody knows how they do it.
Just like Santa Claus, they make a list, they check it twice. They're gonna find out who's naughty or nice...
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Just like Santa Claus, they make a list, they check it twice. They're gonna find out who's naughty or nice...
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Hate to be the only serious reply, but I think it's regional. They send it out to different parts of the country in chunks to preserve server space and bandwidth. As far as who/where gets it when, I'm sure some big Whig uses a dart with a map on their wall...
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That sounds about right
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