how do motorola or verizon decide on who gets ics first is it by last name or first name or by state i was just wondering if anyone knew
They're like "well, who'll be the next one to get the ics update, let's see... Oh, see that user? He bought razr a 8 mouths ago, he must be waiting a lot for the update, let's skip him...
Now, see this guy? He bought razr just a week ago, let's update him for the lolz."
And that's how, an update born.
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Or do they go by the size of your phone bill
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Neh, they searching a way to make their costumers mad.
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I'm pretty sure it is either random or by area.
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Well they do a wonderful job at that
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"Q&A Section Now Open - All Question Threads To Be Posted There -"
I think that is only visible on my screen, for some reason...
Anyway, as far as I know, nobody knows how they do it.
Just like Santa Claus, they make a list, they check it twice. They're gonna find out who's naughty or nice...
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Just like Santa Claus, they make a list, they check it twice. They're gonna find out who's naughty or nice...
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knuckle head
Hate to be the only serious reply, but I think it's regional. They send it out to different parts of the country in chunks to preserve server space and bandwidth. As far as who/where gets it when, I'm sure some big Whig uses a dart with a map on their wall...
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That sounds about right
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Just an educational question, but why can't we just overwrite the kernel and bootloader the way the phone is right now? How exactly is it that motorola keeping us from uploading custom kernels and such?
If I'm not mistaken, they've signed the boot partition with an encrypted key. In order to overwrite it, you have access it & in order to access it, it's got to be unlocked & in order to unlock it you have to have the product-specific key. Without it you can't get permission to mount it as r/w. Think Motorola's chastity belt.
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Think Motorola's chastity belt.
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What a great way to thing about it
Give it another week tops.
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Give it another week tops.
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Im hopeful but not counting on it. I feel like a lot of dev might focus on bionic beast due out later this week. I really hope it happens within a week tho that would be amazing.
A weeks being very optimistic not that there's anything wrong with that tho.. because that would awesome; and hopefully the bionic will bring more attention to Motorola/tegra as a whole, rather than steal it from dx2, which would hopefully be in our favor.
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Give it another week tops.
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A weeks being very optimistic not that there's anything wrong with that tho.. because that would awesome; and hopefully the bionic will bring more attention to Motorola/tegra as a whole, rather than steal it from dx2, which would hopefully be in our favor.
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I was really hoping to see the bionic on the new omap5 processer. Maybe in a few months we will see that.
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A weeks being very optimistic not that there's anything wrong with that tho.. because that would awesome; and hopefully the bionic will bring more attention to Motorola/tegra as a whole, rather than steal it from dx2, which would hopefully be in our favor.
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It's an omap.
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Forum Moderators can we a least move Photon up beween the Atrix 4G & Bionic?
Im' tired of this phone being treaded like the red head stepchild from even developers working on its two Moto cousins the Motorola Atrix 4G & the Motorola Droid Bionic while we sit here all alone dying on the vine
How about moving the Motorola Photon to where the "LG Optimus 2x" is now beween the Motorola Atrix 4G and Motorola Droid Bionic? ..
Logicl to group Moto three dual cores together them maybe we will get looked at out of pity by the Atrix & Bionic developers
Right now seem ever thing the Photon has is a port from Atrix or Bionic land.....
We need some love
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Forum Moderators can we a least move Photon up beween the Atrix 4G & Bionic?
Im' tired of this phone being treaded like the red head stepchild from even developers working on its two Moto cousins the Motorola Atrix 4G & the Motorola Droid Bionic while we sit here all alone dying on the vine
How about moving the Motorola Photon to where the "LG Optimus 2x" is now beween the Motorola Atrix 4G and Motorola Droid Bionic? ..
Logicl to group Moto three dual cores together them maybe we will get looked at out of pity by the Atrix & Bionic developers
Right now seem ever thing the Photon has is a port from Atrix or Bionic land.....
We need some love
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I wholly support this!
Maybe that way we can at least get a few more eyes staring down our dev section.
+1
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simple, logical and reasonable request. I +1 also.
You do realize the order is based on release dates right?
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You do realize the order is based on release dates right?
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Which makes it a giant PITA to navigate.
Organization by manufacturer would be a welcome change IMO.
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+1 It would be nice to get some extra attention.
A different ordering system (preferably by manufacturer) makes sense to me.
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+1 .
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You do realize the order is based on release dates right?
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Indeed. But that doesn't change the fact that our photon is in the middle of nowhere. I know it sounds overly dramatic but it is very obvious that a lot of other people share my point of view.
+1. Definitely agree with the OP.
+ 1 !!!!! We need some action going on in here
everyone should click "submit to portal" in the top right corner of this thread.. this will get the thread noticed.
I also rated it 5 stars..
I'll post a link where admins/mods will notice it too.
C'mon guys....these are the same peeps that still have the Motorola Photon listed as an "Upcoming Device" in the Portal. I'm sure there still is not a moderator assigned to this forum either. No love.
you need to go to the main xda forum page and up at the top left (under brown protal button) click "Compact Veiw"
OMFG look!!! arranged by manufacturer.
is that what you wanted?
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you need to go to the main xda forum page and up at the top left (under brown protal button) click "Compact Veiw"
OMFG look!!! arranged by manufacturer.
is that what you wanted?
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I realize this is dripping with sarcasm but did it ever dawn on you that MANY people do NOT look for "compact view" when they come to this site? I damn sure don't!
On another note- your sarcasm doesn't remove the fact that the Motorola Photon gets as much love as a slug around here.
I love slugs! I collect leopard slugs in my spare time. It's disgustingly interesting to watch them mate! I also +1 this thread...
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If its based on release date then the bionic should be by the actual release date, not the failed release date.... Just my two cents
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Who watched the ICS launch and is even more angry about having a locked bootloader?
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I watched the event. Now hoping that the X2 is on the list to get the update.
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I am going to say that the X2 wont get it, at least not anytime soon until Moto breaks it down and skins it(so maybe next summer). The fact that there is so much built into the phone to function without buttons means that Moto has to build in and map their functionality. And, since supposedly the Xoom is the first to get it on tablet, you would think it would go to the Razr, then Bionic/Atrix 2/Photon 4g, THEN the lower end devices. Needless to say, I don't think you should get your hopes up.
I watched it though. I was VERY impressed with some of the things I saw! The lock screen portion with the video was really cool! However, I don't think I would want my phone to do that everytime, seems too tedious still. Maybe after the phone has been passive for 20 minutes or something like that.
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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I think the "thing" is Google wanting to buy Motorola Mobility
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Read this:
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How creditable is that fella, wolfe? 31 posts w/ 8 thx. If he had a connection like that you'd think his post count would be retarded with threads on unlocks since his buddy "...would come over to my house and unlock my bootloader".
Where can I watch a replay of the event?
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How creditable is that fella, wolfe? 31 posts w/ 8 thx. If he had a connection like that you'd think his post count would be retarded with threads on unlocks since his buddy "...would come over to my house and unlock my bootloader".
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Yeah, take it with a grain of salt for sure. Worth a read at least.
Here is why it had me thinking. Moto always blames Verizon for the BL. HTC and Sammy phones get unlocked all day. So why would Verizon bias Moto? It gets the gears churning boys...
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I don't believe any Moto phone has their bl unlocked, do they? The lock is all Moto. My gut is telling me if it were up to Google they would have all phones
unlocked and completely open.
Either way, thx for sharing! Good to see you lingering around here yet.
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ATRIX, photon (aka MoPho), OG Droid, XOOM, and a couple more I believe.
Unlocked.
Edit: eris = HTC. Garbage phone btw.
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Back on topic, I heard that all phones running 2.3 will get ics...that means us. So I have my hopes up. I also have my hopes that moto will make good on their deadline to unlock their devices.
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My thoughts are, with the patent wars, Google is trying to cover their ass right now. Until the proposed deal is approved, they are wanting to make sure that nothing slips thru the cracks that could be harmful to their cause in the hands of the opposition. Not to mention, they probably have some new devices in testing along with new hardware components that would be in Google's best interest not to have leaked until they are certified by the FCC. I am going to have to give Google the benefit of the doubt, and say until the deal is approved, they are doing what they can to cover their asses.
As far as VZW being to blame for Moto, I think it has to do with the fact that Moto is an American company, and they can be pressured by big Red. Whereas HTC and Samsung typically have a broader market share outside of the US. Especially with Sammy being a monstrosity of a Korean company in all terms. I lived in Korea for 2 years(Army), LG and Sammy run their world over their! LG is even the biggest ISP! They are leaps and bounds beyond what we have in the US over there though. Thanks to the FCC and FTC! My computer monitors are 2 Innopix 24" OLED 1920x1200 and I bought them there almost 4 years ago for $150/ea! I built my entire computer setup there Feb 2008, I still score a 6.8 on Windows experience index. Cost me less than $1,500 for what would have cost $4,000 easily to buy off of Best Buys shelf... Not to mention Apple, ugh.
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Back on topic, I heard that all phones running 2.3 will get ics...that means us. So I have my hopes up. I also have my hopes that moto will make good on their deadline to unlock their devices.
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The simple fact that they locked the Razr before it is even released, lends me to believe your hopes will be crushed. Sorry man, no reason to lock a phone during the same period you stated you would unlock them.
Now, if 4.0 is still a "Google Experience" as other phones update to it, without their blur's and sense's like honeycomb was for tablets, MAYBE.
Didn't I read ICS requires 1G of RAM?
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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According to a spokesman, the lockdown was at the request of the carrier -- VZW, in this case. I am so sick of the shenanigans ...
I sent a tweet to moto asking if they have a list of phones that is going to get the ICS update. Maybe they will respond.
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I read somewhere that ice cream sandwich has hardware acceleration. Yay! Lol
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I understand the locked bootloaders because VZW probably spends thousands of dollars replacing phones for people who don't know what they are doing, just trying to impress friends. But still, we payed for it, its ours, we should be able to break it if we want
And I think we will get ICS, it just might take longer than expected.
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I understand the locked bootloaders because VZW probably spends thousands of dollars replacing phones for people who don't know what they are doing, just trying to impress friends. But still, we payed for it, its ours, we should be able to break it if we want
And I think we will get ICS, it just might take longer than expected.
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Yea If I want to ruin my phone that should be my life choice.
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Motorola said that within 6 weeks after the release of ICS they would announce what phones will get the ICS update.
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Just curious when you guys think we'll get the official 4.0.
I'm not sure for other devices, but for the Xperias, it will come sometime April 2012
May 17th, that's my guess.
One month, cause I'll find it on cheesecake
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One month, cause I'll find it on cheesecake
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What exactly is "Cheesecake"? I've seen it floating around and I think I used something like that for my Bionic (when I had it) to get an 893 update.
Motorola said that it will release 3-4 months read it on phonedog.com few weeks ago
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What exactly is "Cheesecake"? I've seen it floating around and I think I used something like that for my Bionic (when I had it) to get an 893 update.
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I like to think of it as an underground conglomerate akin to Fight Club.
We basically raid Motorola's engineering servers looking for test builds. The brave few (like me) might flash them, but usually it's better suited to pass the builds on to a developer.
Cheesecake is an app Phydo made to make it much easier. Before it would take hours.
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It will be released when it is ready.
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I like to think of it as an underground conglomerate akin to Fight Club.
We basically raid Motorola's engineering servers looking for test builds. The brave few (like me) might flash them, but usually it's better suited to pass the builds on to a developer.
Cheesecake is an app Phydo made to make it much easier. Before it would take hours.
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Ahhh that makes sense! Now I know. Thanks!
Hopefully we can have a native ICS
Moto said beginning of 2012, however they did push updates back from their original dates announced so 2013?
June 30th
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I don't want to get chewed out for asking this but.... Who is Melvin and what did he do to you guys?
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I don't want to get chewed out for asking this but.... Who is Melvin and what did he do to you guys?
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I got here a little while after Melvin, but I started a thread asking the same question.
He made bull **** claims. Said he had real ICS leaks and bootloader unlocks but only gave out Froyo sbfs.
There was a halfway funny thread started by someone a couple months about Melvins "arrest". Absolutely nothing was proved but it was funny.
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Lol wow "sour promises" so is his name banned around here or something.
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Lol wow "sour promises" so is his name banned around here or something.
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No not quite. We refer to most trolls as Melvin.
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Lol thats crazy
Yea I remember when someone was accused of being the actual melvin(of course he denied it). I told him the by stating claims and having nothing to show for it in a sense "you are melvin".
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But no simply asking about him wont upset anyone, cause while we have had a "villain" we also have our heroes to balance out the whole attitude here and we got a bunch, DKZ, Nitro, Ace, Moonshadow and a bunch more here have been so amazing its unbelievable. I know everyones day is brighter after going through one of ash's excited intoxicated posts... Mine sure is.... So melvin burn in hell we have dkz and hes an actual rocket scientist lol I hate moto for this phone but i love this phone cause it brought me here
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Lol thats crazy because I actually came from the samsung continuum and was excited to get this phone... Now that I know the bootloader issue im kind of disappointed but its cool you guys still have good roms for the phone. Still A significant upgrade from the continuum!!!