Basically after some research and trial and error it seems that when the ASUS engineers were finalizing the HC build for our Primes they left some settings on which conflict with each other. I have discovered the proper settings needed to achive fluidity and speed in the stock browser which does not impact FLASH or youtube or any site that uses embedded content for that matter. Basically all you have to do is open the stock browser and in the address bar type about:debug and then tap go. Nothing will appear however click on menu then settings and you will see a debug section added to the list. Make sure that your settings mirror the image below. I have tested this with the correct settings on and off and there is a huge difference. Videos coming soon. Again if you encounter any issues let me know.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Video showing speed increase
Stock Browsing
The instructions below are deprecated DO NOT FOLLOW
Hello everyone after reading all the mixed reviews here on XDA and being a personal owner in the community I wanted to shed some light on the browser lag issue. Initially when I got the prime I noticed the UI even with a Live wallpaper did not lag however the browser lagged a bit. I promptly remembered that stock browser has debug options. So I enabled debug and turned off "Enable OpenGL rendering " which is GPU hardware rendering of the web and I immediately noticed an increased response from the stock browser only down side is sunspider results dropped. However real world rendering and scrolling improved. Screenshots comming soon, please let me know what ur feedback is. Can't wait til ICS.
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I'm gonna try this right now. Thanks. It does suck however that we have to do this to get things to work a certain way for such a supposed to be high end device.
flak0 said:
Hello everyone after reading all the mixed reviews here on XDA and being a personal owner in the community I wanted to shed some light on the browser lag issue. Initially when I got the prime I noticed the UI even with a Live wallpaper did not lag however the browser lagged a bit. I promptly remembered that stock browser has debug options. So I enabled debug and turned off "Enable OpenGL rendering " which is GPU hardware rendering of the web and I immediately noticed an increased response from the stock browser only down side is sunspider results dropped. However real world rendering and scrolling improved. Screenshots comming soon, please let me know what ur feedback is. Can't wait til ICS.
To enable debug: type "about:debug" then hit go, then toto settings and you will see debug menu
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Didn't work. In a quick comparison I opened androidcentral.com with stock vs dolphin HD browser. Scrolling is still laggy on stock but smooth on dolphin. Ill stick to dolphin for now.
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Opera mobile is the best browser to use.I've seen no lag using it.Page rendering & scrolling works without a hitch.
Arun01 said:
Opera mobile is the best browser to use.I've seen no lag using it.Page rendering & scrolling works without a hitch.
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Opera is the best so far. Much better then stock or delphin.
stock browser sucks no matter device or OS. Opera mobile is the best on Prime right now.
Opera mobile is smooth, but accessing the bookmarks is so annoying. In Dolphin the bookmark access is so easy.
IMO this is why Apple still reigns. Try getting a housewife or someone not so technical, to understand they need a new browser, let alone how to do it.
Dont get me wrong, I dont have an Apple bone in my body. But cant deny there stuff is rock solid for the most part.
I've seen quite a bit of complaints about the stock browser. The ICS browser is greatly improved. I've used it on the Galaxy Nexus and it's much better than previous Android browsers. Let's just hope that Asus does actually get ICS out the door in January.
Ill try it out. I also enabled webGL. Not sure why that is not enabled, but I doubt many sites use it.
TF201 / XDA premium
rsarno said:
IMO this is why Apple still reigns. Try getting a housewife or someone not so technical, to understand they need a new browser, let alone how to do it.
Dont get me wrong, I dont have an Apple bone in my body. But cant deny there stuff is rock solid for the most part.
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I have an Ipad also. safari is no better or faster. it sux also. I never use it. on Ipad I either use Icab or Atomic browser. they don't have opera mobile for it. only opera mini.
Seriously, folks, the one area where ICS will make marked and virtually guaranteed performance improvements is the stock browser. If the Galaxy Nexus browser performs decently with its meh processor and 1280X720 resolution, then we should see excellent performance on the Prime with Tegra 3.
I'm willing to be a little bit patient...
demandarin said:
I have an Ipad also. safari is no better or faster. it sux also. I never use it. on Ipad I either use Icab or Atomic browser. they don't have opera mobile for it. only opera mini.
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I dont agree with that. In my personal experience with my wifes iPad 1, and now her iPad 2 ... Safari is lightning fast in most cases.
In fact she brags about how much faster it is than her netbook.
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Seriously, folks, the one area where ICS will make marked and virtually guaranteed performance improvements is the stock browser. If the Galaxy Nexus browser performs decently with its meh processor and 1280X720 resolution, then we should see excellent performance on the Prime with Tegra 3.
I'm willing to be a little bit patient...
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You have to understand you are comparing a gingerbread browser versus a ice cream sandwich browser, you're going to see a big difference. The difference between honey comb and ice cream sandwich will be there but not as big as you saw coming from gingerbread.
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Does Opera still have a the Flash problem.. trying to view youtube videos on pages shows up black and only audio plays
Ipad 2 safari is fast, but Ipad 1 safari was a PITA especially if you use tabs.
Waiting my prime to arrive, gonna use Opera...
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Opera mobile is the best browser to use.I've seen no lag using it.Page rendering & scrolling works without a hitch.
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I can't get flash to show up on Opera mobile. It's just a black box but I hear the sound. Also when I use google it defaults to google mobile, and I'd really like it to be in google classic. Does anyone know how to fix this?
d1ez3 said:
I can't get flash to show up on Opera mobile. It's just a black box but I hear the sound. Also when I use google it defaults to google mobile, and I'd really like it to be in google classic. Does anyone know how to fix this?
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Under settings>advanced >user agent> there is the option to set it to desktop.
I dont agree 100%. My Acer a100 7inch stock browser running HC 3.2 is smoother. Same with Lenovo ideapad k1(which I returned tovget the prime). But there's no need to use other browser. Here's a video of my a100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-99O4-gmQ6E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
demandarin said:
stock browser sucks no matter device or OS. Opera mobile is the best on Prime right now.
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Arun01 said:
Under settings>advanced >user agent> there is the option to set it to desktop.
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I've actually done this but when I try to load youtube videos, I still get only sound and no picture.
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I tested it at Youtube, and though the video is shaky, it actually worked without any hacking or anything. It was the version I got directly from Opera's website.
DOWNLOAD HERE
For Flash support, you'll need to turn on 'Plugins' under Advanced Settings to get it working.
Finally... that's all I'm saying.
Good news, will test it immediately!
youtube works well..
at youtube it redirects to m.youtube.com and on s1.sfgamege (flash game) it says adobe flash not isntalled
maduuto said:
at youtube it redirects to m.youtube.com and on s1.sfgamege (flash game) it says adobe flash not isntalled
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if you change to desktop youtube site it works fine
For all people having the same, it's not just changing to www.youtube.com or going to the right sites. By default all plugins for Opera 10 are disabled, go to settings and hit 'Advanced', here you can turn on plugins. Once you did that the flash objects will show, but youtube still redirects to it's mobile site.
I think all in all this beta is quite nice, however flash is a little slow at this point (better to leave it off). If you have Streaming Media as application in your ROM you better use that one, it works a little smoother, but remember Opera is still in beta!
Edit I don't see a way to stop YouTube from redirecting you to it's mobile site, even when you tell Opera to behave like the destop version! Even direct links won't work, it will still redirect or tell you that 'this video is not available for mobile devices'.
maduuto said:
at youtube it redirects to m.youtube.com and on s1.sfgamege (flash game) it says adobe flash not isntalled
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Opera Mobile 10 really sucks -.- the 9.5 was nice but now... It made a step backwards, gets more and more like the "Mini" version
And I think flash should be disabled, to block weird, cpu eating ads. You should first click on any Flash to "run" it
scilor said:
Opera Mobile 10 really sucks -.- the 9.5 was nice but now... It made a step backwards, gets more and more like the "Mini" version
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You're crazy. For one, the newest builds of version 9.7 are better than any 9.5 build (nobody can deny that). And the newest beta of Opera 10 is arguably a whole lot better than version 9.7. It's just missing the zoom slider and schalable text reflow. Try it and everyone should see it is definitely not a step backwards, but for most people a big step forwards.
And I think flash should be disabled, to block weird, cpu eating ads. You should first click on any Flash to "run" it
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That's exactly how it works in Opera 10 beta 3.
this version is a lot more smooth than beta 2
and other flashames wont work, too, it olny says no adobe flash installed
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You're crazy. For one, the newest builds of version 9.7 are better than any 9.5 build (nobody can deny that). And the newest beta of Opera 10 is arguably a whole lot better than version 9.7. It's just missing the zoom slider and schalable text reflow. Try it and everyone should see it is definitely not a step backwards, but for most people a big step forwards.
That's exactly how it works in Opera 10 beta 3.
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My problem with the Mobile 10 is that there are several web pages that it brings up as the mobile version and there is no way to get it to default to desktop view. For example Engadget.
It does seems a heck of a lot faster with a lot less checkerboard of death (well the checkerboard is gone but less waiting none the less).
Other then being a little faster I agree with the other poster that it feels like a step backwards on my TP2. It reminds of me browsing on my Blackberry with Opera Mini. In fact I had to look a couple of times to make sure I was using Opera Mobile not Opera Mini. Let me clarify that I think the browsing experience feels like a step back. I do like the new menus and start page.
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My problem with the Mobile 10 is that there are several web pages that it brings up as the mobile version and there is no way to get it to default to desktop view. For example Engadget.
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That is not a problem with Opera. It's a problem with the site. The site is doing it, not Opera.
Other then being a little faster I agree with the other poster that it feels like a step backwards on my TP2.
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How?
KilZone said:
I don't see a way to stop YouTube from redirecting you to it's mobile site, even when you tell Opera to behave like the destop version! Even direct links won't work, it will still redirect or tell you that 'this video is not available for mobile devices'.
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Switch off opera Turbo and switch on plugins. If that doesn't work, while on Youtube, scroll to the bottom of the page and click on "desktop version" or something like that.
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That is not a problem with Opera. It's a problem with the site. The site is doing it, not Opera.
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The Site, Opera, doesn't matter who is at fault the fact is it does it and I don't want it too. Same with Google.
How?
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The way it formats to my TP2's screen. It really does look more like Opera Mini on my Blackberry then Opera Mobile that came stock on my Tmo TP2. It doesn't use the extra real estate very well and doesn't seem to do as good of a job formatting web pages to my Rhodium's screen. Looks mobile formatted instead of desktop formatted at times. Take a look at how they both bring up this web page. 9.5 comes up with a much more useful default view. Beta 10v3 is pretty much unusable and requires me to zoom up before you can do anything.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Inertial scrolling seems much better on 9.5 then 10v3. It takes several more swipes to move down the same screen on 10v3 compared to 9.5. Scrolling on 10v3 seems smoother but I like how 9.5 will "lock" onto a column and I can scroll up and down on a specific column/frame pretty easily. 10v3 reacts to the slightest side movement when you scroll so it is easy to knock your view off your column when you scroll up or down.
No G sensor or zoom slider by default is a giant step backwards on my RHodium.
Menus and animations are much better on 10v3.
10v3 also seems to hog resources and eat my battery (even with plugins turns off). I had about 40% battery left and forgot to close OM10v3 and it killed the rest of my battery in about an hour and a half.
Opera 10 Beta 3 is pretty nice, but I agree with some of the comments about it almost feeling more like Opera Mini. We NEED someone to figure out how to enable the zoom bar on the rhodium!
I will say, Mobile 10v3 loads pages really quickly, and I'm NOT using Opera Turbo. But my favorite browser stiil, by FAR, is Opera 9.7 build 35541. Zoom bar support, very good text reflow, FANTASTIC Javascript support (NOT flash, Javascript). That's been my default browser for quite some time, and nothing else I try works quite as well at rendering pages (full desktop versions! no default mobile version crap!).
I can't recommend enough to anyone who has not tried this build to try it out...
DeoreDX said:
The Site, Opera, doesn't matter who is at fault the fact is it does it and I don't want it too. Same with Google.
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Then you should blame the site, not Opera. It's only doing it because Opera is a well known mobile browser.
The way it formats to my TP2's screen. It really does look more like Opera Mini on my Blackberry then Opera Mobile that came stock on my Tmo TP2. It doesn't use the extra real estate very well and doesn't seem to do as good of a job formatting web pages to my Rhodium's screen. Looks mobile formatted instead of desktop formatted at times. Take a look at how they both bring up this web page. 9.5 comes up with a much more useful default view. Beta 10v3 is pretty much unusable and requires me to zoom up before you can do anything.
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That's because Opera Mobile 10 wraps the text so that it fits your screen when you zoom. That's a step in the right direction because it's a pain to have to adjust the zoom all the time. Now you just press once to zoom in, and it fits perfectly.
bast525 said:
I agree with some of the comments about it almost feeling more like Opera Mini.
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Um, yeah, they have the same UI! LOL.
WhatThis said:
Um, yeah, they have the same UI! LOL.
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not quite what I meant... And the word wrapping is nice BUT I like the way Opera 9.7 does it dynamically so that I can choose the zoom level I want, and still have the columns formatted perfectly to the width of my screen.
As for Javascript... some good examples of things that 9.7 does better:
1. Have a hotmail account? Log in on Opera 10. You can see your inbox, but click on any emails or menus and nothing happens. In 9.7 it's fully functional, you can view emails, jump between different folders, open the pop-up menus, etc.
2. Go to phonedog.com. At the top of the page there is an animating strip of the popular stories for the day. In Opera 10, the strip does not animate correctly, 9.7 it works perfectly
3. CNET.com, there is a similar animating 'billboard' of the days popular articles, while this does animate in Opera 10, it does so choppily, the small pictures at the bottom not 'moving', in Opera 9.7 it works much more smoothly
4. acid3.acidtests.org... Opera 10 gets a high 90, which is good, but opera 9.7 gets a 100
I could give other examples, but you guys get the idea. Everyone makes a big deal about Flash... but Javascript is much more commonly used and 9.7 has the best Javascript support than any other full mobile browser I've tried.
Thanks for opening this thread!
I have been waiting for a new version of Opera mobile since the 1st beta. Beta 3 has some improvements (and bugfixes) I really missed in the 2nd beta. For example Opera crashed as soon as I wanted to remove the "www" in the title bar or if I wanted to write an after these letters (=goodbye amazon ). Also, I noticed a slightly faster scrolling.
For those who don't get to the normal version of youtube: on the bottom part of the site you can click desktop to view the desktop version.
There are only two problems I encountered: the first one is that I haven't yet got youtube to work and the other one is that the bookmarks from beta 2 weren't imported.
I still have the plan to change to fennec as soon as there is a faster version.
how do we disable the auto rotate on tilt in this thing, i cant use opera in bed while lieing sideways my screen flips all over the place, even upsidedown if i got the phone turned upsidedown
On HD2 with Opera 10 installed, many mobile sites, such as m.wikipedia.org or m.wikitravel.org seem to render on a viewport that is bigger than the actual screen space available. With the "show" buttons on wiki mobile sites being at the right side, this becomes a real nuisance.
Anyone got a solution for this ?
NOTE: The very same sites mentioned render properly on Opera 9.7. Actually, they also render properly on Opera 10 on my older QVGA device, too.
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All you had to do is scroll one page dowm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781381
Read the last post. Opera should be 1.
My question isnt related to useragent, i dont want to open the full version instead of the mobile sites, i want the mobile sites to open properly ! And, no, i cant find an answer on my question anywhere, otherwise i just wouldn't post.
Bump.
To make it easier to understand what i mean, i am attaching 2 screenshots, one with the Opera 10 rendering and one with the proper, Opera 9.7, rendering of the very same page.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
* Opera 10 rendering
* Opera 9.7 rendering
Come on, i can't be the only one having this problem !
I also did the following test, to avoid any possible link to the useragent. I made the following test html:
Code:
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<meta name="viewport" content="initial-scale=1, width=device-width, height=device-height, minimum-scale=1, maximum-scale=1.0, user-scalable=no" />
</head>
<title>Viewport Test</title>
<body>
<center>***</center>
</body>
</html>
Opening it on opera 9.7 works normally, the "***" is centered on the screen, there is no horizontal scrollbar. On opera 10, though, it appears on the right side of the screen with horizontal scrollbar, like if it would be x2 zoomed !!! Setting the viewport width attribute to 480, directly, results in the same rendering. Setting it to 240 instead results in PROPER rendering, though. Kinda looks like the browser is zooming the page x2 by default, despite having my zoom setting at 100%.
Someone, please point me to the right direction, i really want a fix for this.
Just go to Settings and change Zoom level to anything above 100%,start the page Double tap the screen,tap the ZoomOut at the bottom left you will see the full page,this will not work with 100% setting.
hagba said:
Just go to Settings and change Zoom level to anything above 100%,start the page Double tap the screen,tap the ZoomOut at the bottom left you will see the full page,this will not work with 100% setting.
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I know about this, found it out myself, too. There are quite a few disadvantages in doing this.
Opera keeps the paragraphs width the same even after zooming out, not using the entire screen space, unless you disable this in about:config, but in this case you get a hard time reading non-mobile versions
The fonts in the "zoomed out" state are way too small, if you enlarge them in settings, again, you screw yourself up in non-mobile site versions browsing.
Having to zoom out, and then zoom back in to click, on the mobile sites, defies the entire purpose of the "mobile version".
This thing is CLEARLY a bug, but it kinda seems like nobody really cares and/or knows any workaround :-(
I guess i am not going to receive a real answer on this one, ever :-(
http://www.google.com/reader/i/This issue totally screws sites such as iphone google reader version up. I would use Opera 9.7, but it seems to conflict with the Hebrew support, looks like it either doesn't support bidi, or attempts to do it on it's own, on top of the system bidi support, resulting in reversed Hebrew. Internet explorer, while not having those particular issues, is a total crap at rendering normal, non-mobile sites. Skyfire is no longer servicing middle east. Webkit unavailable for WM, "Torch Mobile" no longer exist. Damn :-(
Any suggestions ?
Since nobody provided a real answer and no amount of googling did any good, i am now using my own, userscript based, workaround. Just in case anyone else may need this (doubt it, really), i am sharing it below. I know it's fugly, wrong, etc etc, but as nasty as this code is, this 'fixes' the touch.facebook.com rendering, as well as m.wikipedia and m.wikitravel. IPhone version of google reader is rendering correctly with this, too. So, here we go:
Code:
function fixviewport()
{
if (document.documentElement)
{
var meta_viewport_array = document.getElementsByName("viewport");
if (meta_viewport_array.length)
{
var meta_viewport = meta_viewport_array.item(0);
meta_viewport.setAttribute('content', "width="+((screen.width+16)/2)+",height="+(screen.height/2));
}
}
}
window.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',fixviewport,false);
InfX said:
Since nobody provided a real answer and no amount of googling did any good, i am now using my own, userscript based, workaround. Just in case anyone else may need this (doubt it, really), i am sharing it below. I know it's fugly, wrong, etc etc, but as nasty as this code is, this 'fixes' the touch.facebook.com rendering, as well as m.wikipedia and m.wikitravel. IPhone version of google reader is rendering correctly with this, too. So, here we go:
Code:
function fixviewport()
{
if (document.documentElement)
{
var meta_viewport_array = document.getElementsByName("viewport");
if (meta_viewport_array.length)
{
var meta_viewport = meta_viewport_array.item(0);
meta_viewport.setAttribute('content', "width="+((screen.width+16)/2)+",height="+(screen.height/2));
}
}
}
window.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',fixviewport,false);
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This is great! Thank you for this! This was the main reason I wasn't using OM10 on my HD2.
(I'm using zoom 80% so I changed from "(screen.width+16)/2" to "(screen.width+16)/1.6"...)
wardh said:
This is great! Thank you for this! This was the main reason I wasn't using OM10 on my HD2.
(I'm using zoom 80% so I changed from "(screen.width+16)/2" to "(screen.width+16)/1.6"...)
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No problem at all
TBH, judging by the fact this thread consistently got buried one post after another, with nobody posting anything relevant, i've assumed nobody cares about this issue.
About the 80% or other zooms, any chance you may know a programmatic way of finding the current zoom out. I've did try a few things, but i couldn't find a working method to do this. Another thing i couldn't find is a window event that would fire when the screen is rotated, to avoid the need to reload the page. So if you happened to find any of those, do post an updated script
Sorry I can't help you with that. Someone on here must know so lets hope they read this thread sooner then later
wardh said:
This is great! Thank you for this! This was the main reason I wasn't using OM10 on my HD2.
(I'm using zoom 80% so I changed from "(screen.width+16)/2" to "(screen.width+16)/1.6"...)
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hello guys,
this sounds great, I've just run into this. where do you put/apply this script?
cheers,
tinto
InfX said:
Since nobody provided a real answer and no amount of googling did any good, i am now using my own, userscript based, workaround. Just in case anyone else may need this (doubt it, really), i am sharing it below. I know it's fugly, wrong, etc etc, but as nasty as this code is, this 'fixes' the touch.facebook.com rendering, as well as m.wikipedia and m.wikitravel. IPhone version of google reader is rendering correctly with this, too. So, here we go:
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Thanks a million InfX for this !!!
Luckily I found your thread here, when I've already given up hope to get this fixed.
I was also wondering nobody else cared about this as there is no other other browser which is any good on WinMo 6.x, especially with the handling and favorites.
Older Opera versions (9.7) are so much slower in the user interface and viewing compared to 10 they are no alternative.
IE Mobile is kinda crappy too.
For all others interested, I also found other places where people talked about this problem
// Sorry can't post URLs ....
But apparently nobody at Opera cared about it at all.
And from what I've seen/read it would be no biggy to fix it
Here is an manual for everyone how to get the userscript into Opera 10:
- Create a directory anywhere on your device, e.g. I used:
\Interner Speicher\Opera Mobile 10\profile\scripts\
- Save the script in that directory, e.g. as: fix-viewport.js
- Open Opera Mobile 10 and go to: opera:config
- Enter "javascript" in the searchbox
- change the following values:
Activate: "User JavaScript"
Set: "User JavaScript File" to the folder you created before
Activate: "User JavaScript on HTTPS"
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That's it. Restart Opera and you will have nicely fitting webpages!!
Edit: Maybe an Admin can put this thread into the general Windows Mobile forums, as the problem is not specific to any device, but all WinMo 6.x with a screen resolution of 480x800
This has just made Opera 10 a million times better!
Hoe,
Thank you for your instructions they were spot on and thanks to the OP's javascript code this works fantastic!
I just recently ran into this with using Twitter's mobile website and was frustrated that Opera 10 did not adjust the width correctly and I always had to horizontal scroll. In addition to other sites that would default to the mobile version, and I would use the "full site" link just to get correct sizing, even though sometimes the mobile site is more convienent. Normally, I like the full websites, but mobile versions DO have their place.
Again, KUDOS to all, this is super-helpful. I have always found Opera 10 to be the superior mobile browser and really this issue was my only problem with it. Now Opera Mobile 10 went from 99% to 100% perfect in my view.
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Again, KUDOS to all, this is super-helpful. I have always found Opera 10 to be the superior mobile browser and really this issue was my only problem with it. Now Opera Mobile 10 went from 99% to 100% perfect in my view.
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Due to that additional work, I still prefer to have Opera 9.7 though
I hope the cook/devs can cook it into his rom, especially the one that cook opera 10
cheers
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing - the BBC News Mobile Web-Site now renders at the correct width on Opera 10 for me.
Much appreciated!
Regards,
Richard Tubb.
www.tubblog.co.uk
I can't believe someone still finds this thread useful, lol. I went the Android way quite some time ago, making this kinda irrelevant for me
i just saw an update on my prime for adobe flash player. i always check the description but i figured it would just be bug fixes. this is what the changelog says on the market
This update to Adobe Flash Player 11 includes compatibility with Android 4 supported devices, performance improvements and bug fixes related to security and stability. The complete set of release notes can be found at: http://adobe.ly/s16mAX.
i checked the update date to see if i was just late to the party. it shows feb 15th. if you go to the market on pc, itll show jan 16th though.
maybe this will help out with flash in chrome beta since its now officially supporting 4.0? i have not tested this yet, literally saw this moments ago and thought to share
I think I saw that adobe literally came out and said specifically that flash was not and would not be supported with chrome beta for android 4.0. I may have misunderstood. Quite frankly I hope I did misunderstand because day don't make no sense to me at all.
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Chrome is still not supported. Adobe said it will never be supported, thus Chrome on android for the next few years, is a dead browser.
You forget, flash on android will no longer be officially supported either. Time to stop making fun of the iCrowds dead product too.
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thus Chrome on android for the next few years, is a dead browser.
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WRONG.
Adobe is going to stop supporting flash for mobile devices after Android 4, so EVERY browser will probably lose flash in the coming versions of Android.
Not having flash in Chrome for Android makes sense. Why would they invest the time/money on a feature that's on its way out anyways?
http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html
Adobe's own words.
"We will no longer continue to develop Flash Player in the browser to work with new mobile device configurations (chipset, browser, OS version, etc.) following the upcoming release of Flash Player 11.1 for Android and BlackBerry PlayBook. We will of course continue to provide critical bug fixes and security updates for existing device configurations"
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/43152/flash-for-android-4-end-2011-no-flash-for-android-5
"Adobe will release one more version of the Flash Player for mobile browsing, which will provide support for Android 4.0, and one more release of the Flash Linux Porting Kit - both expected to be released before the end of this year," a company spokesperson told us."
"Adobe's statements however, also mean that future updates to the Google Android OS - Android 5.0, for example - won't be getting Flash support:
"After that time, Adobe will continue to provide critical bug fixes and security updates," the company added."
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tush said:
WRONG.
Adobe is going to stop supporting flash for mobile devices after Android 4, so EVERY browser will probably lose flash in the coming versions of Android.
Not having flash in Chrome for Android makes sense. Why would they invest the time/money on a feature that's on its way out anyways?
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The majority of content is still Flash. HTML5 will lag for years. Chrome on Android was DOA because of lack of Flash, period.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Flash is ****ing garbage. As a developer, I could list them for you, but who cares as it is dying off!!!!
Bring on HTML 5.
Moving away from flash is fine, heck I welcome it; just need a major player to dump support for it so that the internet starts to actually move away from it. If Microsoft said that it would dump flash from IE, we'd have a sure fire winner right there.
Andreas527 said:
http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html
Adobe's own words.
"We will no longer continue to develop Flash Player in the browser to work with new mobile device configurations (chipset, browser, OS version, etc.) following the upcoming release of Flash Player 11.1 for Android and BlackBerry PlayBook. We will of course continue to provide critical bug fixes and security updates for existing device configurations"
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/43152/flash-for-android-4-end-2011-no-flash-for-android-5
"Adobe will release one more version of the Flash Player for mobile browsing, which will provide support for Android 4.0, and one more release of the Flash Linux Porting Kit - both expected to be released before the end of this year," a company spokesperson told us."
"Adobe's statements however, also mean that future updates to the Google Android OS - Android 5.0, for example - won't be getting Flash support:
"After that time, Adobe will continue to provide critical bug fixes and security updates," the company added."
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cool, thank you!
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Moving away from flash is fine, heck I welcome it; just need a major player to dump support for it so that the internet starts to actually move away from it. If Microsoft said that it would dump flash from IE, we'd have a sure fire winner right there.
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Unfortunately a lot of stuff is still based on flash and on a tablet I use the desktop useragent which means any browser that doesn't have flash support doesn't have a place in my app drawer. Everyone complains about it, even websites like Android Central complain about it yet they still use it. Maybe if they would actually start using something else Flash would die. Until that happens Flash is a necessary part of a browser and any browser that doesn't have it is lacking even if it is made by the almighty Google. The mere fact that Flash will continue on desktop means that there will ALWAYS be a need for it on a tablet or a phone because people browse the same internet on a tablet or phone as they do on their home computers.
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Flash is ****ing garbage. As a developer, I could list them for you, but who cares as it is dying off!!!!
Bring on HTML 5.
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You're right, bring on HTML5...but a lot of news sites, facebook and other sites use flash players or embed youtube to display video content. Also: Using Flash you can use high quality h264 codec's, and this codec can not be used in HTML5 in most browsers, so you're stuck with higher bandwidth/lower quality video's then in Flash.
Thus...at the moment, I really need flash support in my browser.
yeah there are a handful of sites that use html5 video and to be honest it looks sub-par compared to the same video loaded in flash.... just go to a site using ipad useragent then go to the same site using desktop, no contest. This is main reason i don't use chrome for android.
I haven't been using Chrome as well, but I'm holding onto it. I set up my vacation in Chrome on a trial run and I loved how well it responded to mobile versions of websites such as Expedia. Very zippy.
But no desktop user agent doesn't make it a winner in my book.
Who wants to open another browser just to watch an embedded video? to bad too since chrome for android is very nice.
I hope the internet catches up.. If adobe does not want to support mobile devices then they should retire flash all together.
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Who wants to open another browser just to watch an embedded video? to bad too since chrome for android is very nice.
I hope the internet catches up.. If adobe does not want to support mobile devices then they should retire flash all together.
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Flash is ****ing garbage. As a developer, I could list them for you, but who cares as it is dying off!!!!
Bring on HTML 5.
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You can't be much of a web developer with this attitude....
HTML5 is the future, but it is nowhere near ready for prime time yet. How do you deliver videos with variable bitrates? How do you deliver videos with content protection? YOU CAN'T. There is no support for these CRUCIAL features in any of the HTML5 standards. On top of this, even the CURRENT "standard" has no definition for video codecs, and there is no single codec available that will make your videos playable in all browsers, since they are all doing their own thing.
If you want any of..
- Cross platform video
- Video that will be able to play on low-bandwidth mobile AND high-bandwidth desktop
- Video that has copyright protections. Yes I hate them as much as the next guy, but it is a simple fact that a lot of publishers will not allow content without copyright protections.
.. then you currently HAVE NO CHOICE but to use flash.
All these people trying to get rid of flash today, are putting the cart before the horse. Chrome on Android *is* going to be a non-event if it doesn't support flash because 3/4 of the web nowadays has video content that needs one or more of the above capabilities. Hell, even Google's own embedded YouTube videos will not play in browsers without flash! How dumb can you get here. They could AT LEAST be linking off to the external YouTube player for these videos.
Google needs to make the Chrome plugin API compatible with the stock Android plugin API, to get them over this hoop for the next year or so while HTML5 fills all these gaps it needs to fill before developers can move to it.
It's no developers fault that they wouldn't agree to have a single codec, it's just our job to live with it .
The bitrates and copy protection are the best points you put forward, although everyone I've seen make a stink about it both, didn't choose flash: they
chose Silverlight for their products.
Your "Cross platform" solution also tends to omit whatever platforms they feel like or offer significant issues with platforms they try to support. Enough so that for non-Windows users, no flash can often be a serious selling point for a web site versus it's competitors.
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I dont care if flash dies... But atm many many sites i use (starcraft 2 streams for example) require flash. So i need it.
If flash is soo bad and aweful why is it all over the net? I dont care about the codec behind the videos i watch, i couldnt care less I'm all for unification and making one codec as a standard so everyone can be happy... But i just want it to work. Without issues. On all my pages. Thats all i'm asking. Atm flash is doing that on my prime pretty well. So i'm fine with it. I'm fine with it when it makes room for something else that works equal or better.
Only thing the devs should try to prevent: Content that cant be used by people that want it to use but cant because of some ****ty codec or because of some company fooling around like a 4 year old.
I think we can all agree, for the most part, that using facebook on an Android tablet leaves a lot to be desired. I started off with FriendMe because it didn't pester me with ads, but then switched to FaceDroid after FriendMe got too buggy. I found FaceDroid's UI to be far too busy and it started getting a little buggy as well, so I switched to FriendCaster, which does as many things wrong as it does right. Further, I haven't found a browser that handles Facebook's desktop website well enough for me to use it full time.
So I'm curious to find other peoples' opinions. What is everyone using to access facebook?
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I think we can all agree, for the most part, that using facebook on an Android tablet leaves a lot to be desired. I started off with FriendMe because it didn't pester me with ads, but then switched to FaceDroid after FriendMe got too buggy. I found FaceDroid's UI to be far too busy and it started getting a little buggy as well, so I switched to FriendCaster, which does as many things wrong as it does right. Further, I haven't found a browser that handles Facebook's desktop website well enough for me to use it full time.
So I'm curious to find other peoples' opinions. What is everyone using to access facebook?
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I don't even bother with Facebook on my Prime anymore. It's irritating. I just fall back to my laptop or Nexus.
Hopefully they develop an HD Facebook app for tablets soon.
Friendcaster
I'm using FriendCaster. I think it's the best... It really fast.
Facebook official App for android is really bad...
I tried Friendcaster but it's widget never updates automatically.
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I'm using FriendCaster. I think it's the best... It really fast.
Facebook official App for android is really bad...
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plua one. And the photo functions are great.
I just use touch.facebook.com. It's simple, albiet a bit plain, but it works. Except for when the site is down which happens weirdly often...
Don't do Facebook, thats how.
I use the facebook app, but very, very begrudgingly. It's a horrible app. Awful layout, doesn't take advantage of real estate, and there are a multitude of basic functions it can't perform.
I don't have a solution, I just came in to lament the fact that one of my most-visited websites has such a terrible native option =P
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I use the facebook app, but very, very begrudgingly. It's a horrible app. Awful layout, doesn't take advantage of real estate, and there are a multitude of basic functions it can't perform.
I don't have a solution, I just came in to lament the fact that one of my most-visited websites has such a terrible native option =P
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+1 I have to agree
Stock browser for full desktop site works wonders for me.
For messaging however, I use the messaging app.
I use "tinfoil for Facebook". It doesn't have those invasive permissions that the other applications have. It just loads the website in a sandbox environment. No tracking cookies, reading history, looking at my contacts or getting my GPS location.
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Don't do Facebook, thats how.
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I just use m.facebook.com in Dolphin. If you want a decent rendering of the Desktop facebook.com then use Chrome.
Just go to Facebook on your browser.
I don't get why there are all these apps for websites. You can replace all of them with a decent browser.
Scroll through theverge.com and then scroll through it via Google Currents. It's a matter of usability, not capability. Anywho, I get some weird artifacting and hotlinking when I use the desktop facebook through the browser. I'm just curious as to what everyone else uses.
I have tried a lot of options, so far the best option for me is the stock browser, Shame on you facebook
I want to like FriendCaster but when I compare newsfeed with the Facebook app, it is always missing posts
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I use Google+ and Blogger. When I post something on Blogger, it automatically gets syndicated to RSS, Twitter, and Facebook by way of external services, and I hope someday to Google+ without having to share posts out of the browser. Contacts have been beaten with a club enough that they know better than to Facebook me in reply.
When I used to use Facebook regularly I took to using the mobile site in Opera Mobile, much better than the app was back then.
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theandies said:
Don't do Facebook, thats how.
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^^ That's what I'm talking about!!
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Just go to Facebook on your browser.
I don't get why there are all these apps for websites. You can replace all of them with a decent browser.
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Try out the official Facebook app for iPad and then try comparing it to the browser.. you will quickly understand. The webpage is not optimized for touch.. and chat is not working at all on the prime's browser. You have to use the messenger app.
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http://www.opera.com/wpbeta
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Signed up hours ago. Can't wait. Might be just a web wrapper though. Since its going to be based on IE We shall see
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Signed up hours ago. Can't wait. Might be just a web wrapper though. Since its going to be based on IE We shall see
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it won't be a web wrapper but it will however use IE's engine (trident?)
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it won't be a web wrapper but it will however use IE's engine (trident?)
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Why do you think so, any proof link? Opera has own engine; C++ is available for programming WP8 so it may be a WP8 port...
Yeah, there's no reason somebody couldn't implement a different rendering engine in a WP8 app. This isn't iOS, where things like JS interpreters are forbidden.
With that said, We Shall See. Thanks for the link!
EDIT: Their beta filled up in a few hours, LOL.
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Why do you think so, any proof link? Opera has own engine; C++ is available for programming WP8 so it may be a WP8 port...
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i'll look up a source asap, afaik web browsers aren't allowed to have other other engines than IE's.
which is also why the chromium developers didn't make a WP port (which they wanted to do)
edit: I swear I have read that you couldn't make browser that didn't use the trident engine, but it seems like @GoodDayToDie was right
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i'll look up a source asap, afaik web browsers aren't allowed to have other other engines than IE's.
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Web browser is just a regular application which makes HTTP/HTTPS requests and renders HTML responses on the screen, nothing more. There are no any prohibitions at all for this job.
I remember Chrome/Firefox devs being annoyed that you can't change the default browser (the OS doesn't allow apps to specify themselves as handling the HTTP/HTTPS URIs, or to otherwise change the default away from IE). There are also certain things that might make such a port difficult/expensive in general, such as the need to re-write the JS JIT emitter to produce Win32/THUMB-2. The rendering engine itself isn't that hard to port, though.
Has anyone received a download link from opera yet?
Last night i was contacted them, they replied.
"Thank you for joining the Opera Mini beta testers group. As soon as the build is ready, we'll email you a link to the build "
here is link for download!!!!
http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appId=b3bf000a-e004-4ecb-a8fb-9fc817cdab90
P.S.
is full of bugs and many things not working... we hope next updates fix major problems in app
Doesn't even open for me
hawkeye29 said:
Doesn't even open for me
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HTML5 score for me was 55 LMAO
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HTML5 score for me was 55 LMAO
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I have a lumia 920 and it crashes upon start up. a little frustrating lol
Working fine on 512 RAM Nokia Lumia 520.
It's first beta build, we should have to report bugs to them.
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I have a lumia 920 and it crashes upon start up. a little frustrating lol
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Lumia 920 too...works but can crash during some site loading.
Edit: After today's update it now crashes on every page load.
Todays update (.903) now loads and functions well on my 920. Pretty fluid, actually. Hopefully more features are added like swipe gestures etc.
The poor standards support is disappointing, try for example to load www.telerik.com .
The sunspider JavaScript test isn't even starting, well, they got a lot of work on this if they want this to be a viable alternative to IE.
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The poor standards support is disappointing, try for example to load www.telerik.com .
The sunspider JavaScript test isn't even starting, well, they got a lot of work on this if they want this to be a viable alternative to IE.
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Knowing Opera Team dedication for their browser (desktop, tablets and phones), they can pull this out and make it awesome browser. Great thing about them is that they are listening their users and heavily counting on users feedback.
Altho, since first version, Opera Mini on my phone (Samsung ATIV S i8750, WP8 GDR3), was working fine, no crashing, no whatsoever, just that youtube bug that can't play videos. But they will do that, look how many updates they have in few days of releasing a beta. That means, they are working hard. kudos for them.
Let's face it, we all LOVED the Opera Mini and Opera Mobile on our Windows Mobile devices, so by that we all want Opera Mini to succeed on WP platforms, right?
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Todays update (.903) now loads and functions well on my 920. Pretty fluid, actually. Hopefully more features are added like swipe gestures etc.
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.903 update? I go to the store but it says .902 for me. Am i missing something?
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