I tested it at Youtube, and though the video is shaky, it actually worked without any hacking or anything. It was the version I got directly from Opera's website.
DOWNLOAD HERE
For Flash support, you'll need to turn on 'Plugins' under Advanced Settings to get it working.
Finally... that's all I'm saying.
Good news, will test it immediately!
youtube works well..
at youtube it redirects to m.youtube.com and on s1.sfgamege (flash game) it says adobe flash not isntalled
maduuto said:
at youtube it redirects to m.youtube.com and on s1.sfgamege (flash game) it says adobe flash not isntalled
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if you change to desktop youtube site it works fine
For all people having the same, it's not just changing to www.youtube.com or going to the right sites. By default all plugins for Opera 10 are disabled, go to settings and hit 'Advanced', here you can turn on plugins. Once you did that the flash objects will show, but youtube still redirects to it's mobile site.
I think all in all this beta is quite nice, however flash is a little slow at this point (better to leave it off). If you have Streaming Media as application in your ROM you better use that one, it works a little smoother, but remember Opera is still in beta!
Edit I don't see a way to stop YouTube from redirecting you to it's mobile site, even when you tell Opera to behave like the destop version! Even direct links won't work, it will still redirect or tell you that 'this video is not available for mobile devices'.
maduuto said:
at youtube it redirects to m.youtube.com and on s1.sfgamege (flash game) it says adobe flash not isntalled
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Opera Mobile 10 really sucks -.- the 9.5 was nice but now... It made a step backwards, gets more and more like the "Mini" version
And I think flash should be disabled, to block weird, cpu eating ads. You should first click on any Flash to "run" it
scilor said:
Opera Mobile 10 really sucks -.- the 9.5 was nice but now... It made a step backwards, gets more and more like the "Mini" version
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You're crazy. For one, the newest builds of version 9.7 are better than any 9.5 build (nobody can deny that). And the newest beta of Opera 10 is arguably a whole lot better than version 9.7. It's just missing the zoom slider and schalable text reflow. Try it and everyone should see it is definitely not a step backwards, but for most people a big step forwards.
And I think flash should be disabled, to block weird, cpu eating ads. You should first click on any Flash to "run" it
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That's exactly how it works in Opera 10 beta 3.
this version is a lot more smooth than beta 2
and other flashames wont work, too, it olny says no adobe flash installed
barty22 said:
You're crazy. For one, the newest builds of version 9.7 are better than any 9.5 build (nobody can deny that). And the newest beta of Opera 10 is arguably a whole lot better than version 9.7. It's just missing the zoom slider and schalable text reflow. Try it and everyone should see it is definitely not a step backwards, but for most people a big step forwards.
That's exactly how it works in Opera 10 beta 3.
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My problem with the Mobile 10 is that there are several web pages that it brings up as the mobile version and there is no way to get it to default to desktop view. For example Engadget.
It does seems a heck of a lot faster with a lot less checkerboard of death (well the checkerboard is gone but less waiting none the less).
Other then being a little faster I agree with the other poster that it feels like a step backwards on my TP2. It reminds of me browsing on my Blackberry with Opera Mini. In fact I had to look a couple of times to make sure I was using Opera Mobile not Opera Mini. Let me clarify that I think the browsing experience feels like a step back. I do like the new menus and start page.
DeoreDX said:
My problem with the Mobile 10 is that there are several web pages that it brings up as the mobile version and there is no way to get it to default to desktop view. For example Engadget.
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That is not a problem with Opera. It's a problem with the site. The site is doing it, not Opera.
Other then being a little faster I agree with the other poster that it feels like a step backwards on my TP2.
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How?
KilZone said:
I don't see a way to stop YouTube from redirecting you to it's mobile site, even when you tell Opera to behave like the destop version! Even direct links won't work, it will still redirect or tell you that 'this video is not available for mobile devices'.
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Switch off opera Turbo and switch on plugins. If that doesn't work, while on Youtube, scroll to the bottom of the page and click on "desktop version" or something like that.
WhatThis said:
That is not a problem with Opera. It's a problem with the site. The site is doing it, not Opera.
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The Site, Opera, doesn't matter who is at fault the fact is it does it and I don't want it too. Same with Google.
How?
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The way it formats to my TP2's screen. It really does look more like Opera Mini on my Blackberry then Opera Mobile that came stock on my Tmo TP2. It doesn't use the extra real estate very well and doesn't seem to do as good of a job formatting web pages to my Rhodium's screen. Looks mobile formatted instead of desktop formatted at times. Take a look at how they both bring up this web page. 9.5 comes up with a much more useful default view. Beta 10v3 is pretty much unusable and requires me to zoom up before you can do anything.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Inertial scrolling seems much better on 9.5 then 10v3. It takes several more swipes to move down the same screen on 10v3 compared to 9.5. Scrolling on 10v3 seems smoother but I like how 9.5 will "lock" onto a column and I can scroll up and down on a specific column/frame pretty easily. 10v3 reacts to the slightest side movement when you scroll so it is easy to knock your view off your column when you scroll up or down.
No G sensor or zoom slider by default is a giant step backwards on my RHodium.
Menus and animations are much better on 10v3.
10v3 also seems to hog resources and eat my battery (even with plugins turns off). I had about 40% battery left and forgot to close OM10v3 and it killed the rest of my battery in about an hour and a half.
Opera 10 Beta 3 is pretty nice, but I agree with some of the comments about it almost feeling more like Opera Mini. We NEED someone to figure out how to enable the zoom bar on the rhodium!
I will say, Mobile 10v3 loads pages really quickly, and I'm NOT using Opera Turbo. But my favorite browser stiil, by FAR, is Opera 9.7 build 35541. Zoom bar support, very good text reflow, FANTASTIC Javascript support (NOT flash, Javascript). That's been my default browser for quite some time, and nothing else I try works quite as well at rendering pages (full desktop versions! no default mobile version crap!).
I can't recommend enough to anyone who has not tried this build to try it out...
DeoreDX said:
The Site, Opera, doesn't matter who is at fault the fact is it does it and I don't want it too. Same with Google.
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Then you should blame the site, not Opera. It's only doing it because Opera is a well known mobile browser.
The way it formats to my TP2's screen. It really does look more like Opera Mini on my Blackberry then Opera Mobile that came stock on my Tmo TP2. It doesn't use the extra real estate very well and doesn't seem to do as good of a job formatting web pages to my Rhodium's screen. Looks mobile formatted instead of desktop formatted at times. Take a look at how they both bring up this web page. 9.5 comes up with a much more useful default view. Beta 10v3 is pretty much unusable and requires me to zoom up before you can do anything.
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That's because Opera Mobile 10 wraps the text so that it fits your screen when you zoom. That's a step in the right direction because it's a pain to have to adjust the zoom all the time. Now you just press once to zoom in, and it fits perfectly.
bast525 said:
I agree with some of the comments about it almost feeling more like Opera Mini.
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Um, yeah, they have the same UI! LOL.
WhatThis said:
Um, yeah, they have the same UI! LOL.
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not quite what I meant... And the word wrapping is nice BUT I like the way Opera 9.7 does it dynamically so that I can choose the zoom level I want, and still have the columns formatted perfectly to the width of my screen.
As for Javascript... some good examples of things that 9.7 does better:
1. Have a hotmail account? Log in on Opera 10. You can see your inbox, but click on any emails or menus and nothing happens. In 9.7 it's fully functional, you can view emails, jump between different folders, open the pop-up menus, etc.
2. Go to phonedog.com. At the top of the page there is an animating strip of the popular stories for the day. In Opera 10, the strip does not animate correctly, 9.7 it works perfectly
3. CNET.com, there is a similar animating 'billboard' of the days popular articles, while this does animate in Opera 10, it does so choppily, the small pictures at the bottom not 'moving', in Opera 9.7 it works much more smoothly
4. acid3.acidtests.org... Opera 10 gets a high 90, which is good, but opera 9.7 gets a 100
I could give other examples, but you guys get the idea. Everyone makes a big deal about Flash... but Javascript is much more commonly used and 9.7 has the best Javascript support than any other full mobile browser I've tried.
Thanks for opening this thread!
I have been waiting for a new version of Opera mobile since the 1st beta. Beta 3 has some improvements (and bugfixes) I really missed in the 2nd beta. For example Opera crashed as soon as I wanted to remove the "www" in the title bar or if I wanted to write an after these letters (=goodbye amazon ). Also, I noticed a slightly faster scrolling.
For those who don't get to the normal version of youtube: on the bottom part of the site you can click desktop to view the desktop version.
There are only two problems I encountered: the first one is that I haven't yet got youtube to work and the other one is that the bookmarks from beta 2 weren't imported.
I still have the plan to change to fennec as soon as there is a faster version.
how do we disable the auto rotate on tilt in this thing, i cant use opera in bed while lieing sideways my screen flips all over the place, even upsidedown if i got the phone turned upsidedown
Related
Just saw it from opera. Administrator pls delete if someone already post it. (i searched and it is no)
More features
Opera Turbo
Opera's servers compress Web pages up to 70%, greatly reducing the cost of browsing.
Touchscreen & keypad
The user interface has been optimized for both touchscreen and keypad-style mobile phones.
Typing less, browsing more
Save time with Web address auto-completion, password manager and inline editing.
Web standards
Opera 10 is based on the latest Opera browser engine so your favorite Web sites work as they do on a your computer.
Rich Web content
Browse Web applications sites like Facebook and Gmail, and enjoy the rich interaction.
Opera Dragonfly
Connect your mobile phone to your PC and debug Web applications remotely. Read more here.
Adaptive zoom
In just a few clicks easily pan and zoom into your desired content.
Privacy
Be in control of your privacy. Manage your passwords, history, cookies, and cache.
Saving pages and images
Save Web pages and images for later offline viewing.
http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBUmiDLRcNs
I uploaded to sendspace
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ucqzd1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBUmiDLRcNs
the link above doesn't work.
I'm very disapointed... Check out how it formats the pages, looks like crap compared to 9.5... I've tried many sites and they all look so much better in 9.5. I was really hoping they would have fixed this since the 9.7 beta...
The UI feels nothing new since I've been using Opera Mini 5 since it was released... This looks very much the same...
still no flash support.
support QVGA?
TheRem said:
still no flash support.
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I think we have to wait for adobe to release the full flash 10.1 for mobiles...
works well in elfin thanks
Doesn´t work on my Touch HD. It starts, but then it stopps saying on the top bar Opera Mobile 10 beta and i can´t press any button and no page is coming up. Thought it would make some autoconfiguration for the first time, but even after 5 minutes nothing happens. Ok it´s stil beta, but shouldn´t it at least start?
It's work fine on my hd!
At the first time you must start it from start menu, so it complete the setup process with the aknowledgement, after you can use from internet tab!
Someone use landscape mode, i didn't find it...
Bookmarks ?
Hello,
how can i import older Bookmark in Opera 10 ?
Rename the opera6.adr in anyone else or something?
Greetz
Hat
Sorry for my bad english...
Damn no flash support still up till now
Oh I thought they have flash support this time. but otherwise they have done a good job.
Am I the only one who thinks the official 9.7 beta was better???
It used the accelerometer on my Diamond and had really cool animation effects when tilting the device into landscape and other stuff....
Is there a way to enable accelerometer in Opera 10???
Also is this version not opengl accelerated like 9.7 was, besides the new "improved" UI I think this version is a step back from 9.7.
I don`t know some peoples already say about the new Opera 10 its nothing more than all other versions but i don`t think so.
1st when i install on my HD this beta i saw its much more faster than the 9.7 or 9.5 Also the view of the pages is much more better and clear and all the menus of the opera are just fast and awsome.
On the same time i just test for how long will load a page.
For example i choice a random page and i use Opera 9.5 then use Opera 10 for the same page in the same internet connection and i can say that this 10 BETA is minimum 3 times faster than the old Opera.
The Only bad things is that still not have a full Flash support but soon this will be fixed and then we will have a awsome fast beauty Browser for our devices
Maybe depends from ROM`s or....
If this matter im with NRG ROM from the signature.
I really don't like the single touch zooming, how annoying is that everytime I click a link it zoomes in and I have to zoom out again...
don't know if this is a good development, it is defenately quick, but it lacks in quite a few things.
tsalta said:
Also the view of the pages is much more better and clear and all the menus of the opera are just fast and awsome.
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Compare it to Opera mobile 9.5 and you will see that 9.5 shows the pages exactly as they look on the PC in overview mode... Opera 10 makes the sites look bad since it wraps the columns in overview before you've zoomed in. I can't stand using this browser until they've fixed this issue.
The turbo mode on 10 is a lot slower than the turbo mode in opera mini 5 beta. Very disappointed, as most times I don't care for perfect rendering...just want to be able to read what I want to read quickly.
I'll continue to use mini as my main browser, as it also uses a lot less memory. 10 is nice if I need to do some "real" web browsing though.
Is anyone else missing Opera link, it was great for Mini, but still not on 9.5-9.7-10, saw somewhere that it was not included on 9.7 as it was a beta, but if all they release is beta's then its never gonna happen (
...
Any way, how to set Zoom more then 200%? Google reader text quite small on my Diamond.
Hi, Where does opera 10 install itself. I would really like to try it out but i do not want it to touch any of my opera 9.5 files in any way.
On HD2 with Opera 10 installed, many mobile sites, such as m.wikipedia.org or m.wikitravel.org seem to render on a viewport that is bigger than the actual screen space available. With the "show" buttons on wiki mobile sites being at the right side, this becomes a real nuisance.
Anyone got a solution for this ?
NOTE: The very same sites mentioned render properly on Opera 9.7. Actually, they also render properly on Opera 10 on my older QVGA device, too.
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All you had to do is scroll one page dowm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781381
Read the last post. Opera should be 1.
My question isnt related to useragent, i dont want to open the full version instead of the mobile sites, i want the mobile sites to open properly ! And, no, i cant find an answer on my question anywhere, otherwise i just wouldn't post.
Bump.
To make it easier to understand what i mean, i am attaching 2 screenshots, one with the Opera 10 rendering and one with the proper, Opera 9.7, rendering of the very same page.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
* Opera 10 rendering
* Opera 9.7 rendering
Come on, i can't be the only one having this problem !
I also did the following test, to avoid any possible link to the useragent. I made the following test html:
Code:
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<meta name="viewport" content="initial-scale=1, width=device-width, height=device-height, minimum-scale=1, maximum-scale=1.0, user-scalable=no" />
</head>
<title>Viewport Test</title>
<body>
<center>***</center>
</body>
</html>
Opening it on opera 9.7 works normally, the "***" is centered on the screen, there is no horizontal scrollbar. On opera 10, though, it appears on the right side of the screen with horizontal scrollbar, like if it would be x2 zoomed !!! Setting the viewport width attribute to 480, directly, results in the same rendering. Setting it to 240 instead results in PROPER rendering, though. Kinda looks like the browser is zooming the page x2 by default, despite having my zoom setting at 100%.
Someone, please point me to the right direction, i really want a fix for this.
Just go to Settings and change Zoom level to anything above 100%,start the page Double tap the screen,tap the ZoomOut at the bottom left you will see the full page,this will not work with 100% setting.
hagba said:
Just go to Settings and change Zoom level to anything above 100%,start the page Double tap the screen,tap the ZoomOut at the bottom left you will see the full page,this will not work with 100% setting.
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I know about this, found it out myself, too. There are quite a few disadvantages in doing this.
Opera keeps the paragraphs width the same even after zooming out, not using the entire screen space, unless you disable this in about:config, but in this case you get a hard time reading non-mobile versions
The fonts in the "zoomed out" state are way too small, if you enlarge them in settings, again, you screw yourself up in non-mobile site versions browsing.
Having to zoom out, and then zoom back in to click, on the mobile sites, defies the entire purpose of the "mobile version".
This thing is CLEARLY a bug, but it kinda seems like nobody really cares and/or knows any workaround :-(
I guess i am not going to receive a real answer on this one, ever :-(
http://www.google.com/reader/i/This issue totally screws sites such as iphone google reader version up. I would use Opera 9.7, but it seems to conflict with the Hebrew support, looks like it either doesn't support bidi, or attempts to do it on it's own, on top of the system bidi support, resulting in reversed Hebrew. Internet explorer, while not having those particular issues, is a total crap at rendering normal, non-mobile sites. Skyfire is no longer servicing middle east. Webkit unavailable for WM, "Torch Mobile" no longer exist. Damn :-(
Any suggestions ?
Since nobody provided a real answer and no amount of googling did any good, i am now using my own, userscript based, workaround. Just in case anyone else may need this (doubt it, really), i am sharing it below. I know it's fugly, wrong, etc etc, but as nasty as this code is, this 'fixes' the touch.facebook.com rendering, as well as m.wikipedia and m.wikitravel. IPhone version of google reader is rendering correctly with this, too. So, here we go:
Code:
function fixviewport()
{
if (document.documentElement)
{
var meta_viewport_array = document.getElementsByName("viewport");
if (meta_viewport_array.length)
{
var meta_viewport = meta_viewport_array.item(0);
meta_viewport.setAttribute('content', "width="+((screen.width+16)/2)+",height="+(screen.height/2));
}
}
}
window.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',fixviewport,false);
InfX said:
Since nobody provided a real answer and no amount of googling did any good, i am now using my own, userscript based, workaround. Just in case anyone else may need this (doubt it, really), i am sharing it below. I know it's fugly, wrong, etc etc, but as nasty as this code is, this 'fixes' the touch.facebook.com rendering, as well as m.wikipedia and m.wikitravel. IPhone version of google reader is rendering correctly with this, too. So, here we go:
Code:
function fixviewport()
{
if (document.documentElement)
{
var meta_viewport_array = document.getElementsByName("viewport");
if (meta_viewport_array.length)
{
var meta_viewport = meta_viewport_array.item(0);
meta_viewport.setAttribute('content', "width="+((screen.width+16)/2)+",height="+(screen.height/2));
}
}
}
window.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',fixviewport,false);
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This is great! Thank you for this! This was the main reason I wasn't using OM10 on my HD2.
(I'm using zoom 80% so I changed from "(screen.width+16)/2" to "(screen.width+16)/1.6"...)
wardh said:
This is great! Thank you for this! This was the main reason I wasn't using OM10 on my HD2.
(I'm using zoom 80% so I changed from "(screen.width+16)/2" to "(screen.width+16)/1.6"...)
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No problem at all
TBH, judging by the fact this thread consistently got buried one post after another, with nobody posting anything relevant, i've assumed nobody cares about this issue.
About the 80% or other zooms, any chance you may know a programmatic way of finding the current zoom out. I've did try a few things, but i couldn't find a working method to do this. Another thing i couldn't find is a window event that would fire when the screen is rotated, to avoid the need to reload the page. So if you happened to find any of those, do post an updated script
Sorry I can't help you with that. Someone on here must know so lets hope they read this thread sooner then later
wardh said:
This is great! Thank you for this! This was the main reason I wasn't using OM10 on my HD2.
(I'm using zoom 80% so I changed from "(screen.width+16)/2" to "(screen.width+16)/1.6"...)
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hello guys,
this sounds great, I've just run into this. where do you put/apply this script?
cheers,
tinto
InfX said:
Since nobody provided a real answer and no amount of googling did any good, i am now using my own, userscript based, workaround. Just in case anyone else may need this (doubt it, really), i am sharing it below. I know it's fugly, wrong, etc etc, but as nasty as this code is, this 'fixes' the touch.facebook.com rendering, as well as m.wikipedia and m.wikitravel. IPhone version of google reader is rendering correctly with this, too. So, here we go:
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Thanks a million InfX for this !!!
Luckily I found your thread here, when I've already given up hope to get this fixed.
I was also wondering nobody else cared about this as there is no other other browser which is any good on WinMo 6.x, especially with the handling and favorites.
Older Opera versions (9.7) are so much slower in the user interface and viewing compared to 10 they are no alternative.
IE Mobile is kinda crappy too.
For all others interested, I also found other places where people talked about this problem
// Sorry can't post URLs ....
But apparently nobody at Opera cared about it at all.
And from what I've seen/read it would be no biggy to fix it
Here is an manual for everyone how to get the userscript into Opera 10:
- Create a directory anywhere on your device, e.g. I used:
\Interner Speicher\Opera Mobile 10\profile\scripts\
- Save the script in that directory, e.g. as: fix-viewport.js
- Open Opera Mobile 10 and go to: opera:config
- Enter "javascript" in the searchbox
- change the following values:
Activate: "User JavaScript"
Set: "User JavaScript File" to the folder you created before
Activate: "User JavaScript on HTTPS"
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That's it. Restart Opera and you will have nicely fitting webpages!!
Edit: Maybe an Admin can put this thread into the general Windows Mobile forums, as the problem is not specific to any device, but all WinMo 6.x with a screen resolution of 480x800
This has just made Opera 10 a million times better!
Hoe,
Thank you for your instructions they were spot on and thanks to the OP's javascript code this works fantastic!
I just recently ran into this with using Twitter's mobile website and was frustrated that Opera 10 did not adjust the width correctly and I always had to horizontal scroll. In addition to other sites that would default to the mobile version, and I would use the "full site" link just to get correct sizing, even though sometimes the mobile site is more convienent. Normally, I like the full websites, but mobile versions DO have their place.
Again, KUDOS to all, this is super-helpful. I have always found Opera 10 to be the superior mobile browser and really this issue was my only problem with it. Now Opera Mobile 10 went from 99% to 100% perfect in my view.
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Again, KUDOS to all, this is super-helpful. I have always found Opera 10 to be the superior mobile browser and really this issue was my only problem with it. Now Opera Mobile 10 went from 99% to 100% perfect in my view.
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Due to that additional work, I still prefer to have Opera 9.7 though
I hope the cook/devs can cook it into his rom, especially the one that cook opera 10
cheers
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing - the BBC News Mobile Web-Site now renders at the correct width on Opera 10 for me.
Much appreciated!
Regards,
Richard Tubb.
www.tubblog.co.uk
I can't believe someone still finds this thread useful, lol. I went the Android way quite some time ago, making this kinda irrelevant for me
Anyone succeeded in installing firefox 4? Currently Android Market doesn't think FF is compatible with NC.
go to http://www.opera.com/mobile/ and download it from browser or pc.
That's actually Opera which is an entirely different browser.
The correct link is: firefox.com/m
There is no direct apk download there, only a link to the market (I mean for ff4).
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There is no direct apk download there, only a link to the market (I mean for ff4).
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I know its not exactly what you asked for, but may i make another recommendation for you trying Opera?
I am a die hard user of FF4 at home and work, so I wasn't too sure when i gave O11 a try; espeically since i had been using the previous FF mobile betas.
Let me say, FF is blown away by opera on our tabs. The GPU accelerated rendering is awesome (no firefox cherkerboarding, no studdering), and O11 looks more like desktop firefox than FF mobile.
That said, if you still are hell bent on trying it, you can find the release here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....ndroid-r7/en-US/fennec-4.0.en-US.eabi-arm.apk
I like ff4 on my nook. Haven't tried Opera, though I have it downloaded
Try doing the Market Fix trick here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11626645&postcount=425
and it should download via the market.
Edit: Just tried Opera on Nookie froyo and it makes a fine mirror... gives me a nice black screen and nothing else after the opera mobile logo disappears. Menu gets no response. Not Impressed
I got FF4 and Opera11 both from the market no problem. I am on an auto-nootered 1.1. I wish I could combine both of those browsers into a single browser.
Opera- smoother scrolling and zooming and quicker page loads
firefox - fantastic interface for tabs and controls
Oh yea about opera, the navigation bar is on top for the nook (with no option to hide it) and on bottom for my phone. Is there anyway to force it to the bottom on the nook? Is there an option in the :config?
Thanks for tips! I like the look and feel of opera but when it failed rendering apple.com (no, I'm not a traitor ), I was a kind of dissapointed.
hrizzy said:
Thanks for tips! I like the look and feel of opera but when it failed rendering apple.com (no, I'm not a traitor ), I was a kind of dissapointed.
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I am on my nook right now, and with opera on a desktop user agent, it renders just fine. What issue were you having?
I can't follow any link (on the top) from Opera on this site
hrizzy said:
I can't follow any link (on the top) from Opera on this site
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Actually not only on the top, but anywhere.
hrizzy said:
Thanks for tips! I like the look and feel of opera but when it failed rendering apple.com (no, I'm not a traitor ), I was a kind of dissapointed.
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This coming from the guy using an Android device?
Due to the size of FF4, I've had to upload it to my server. The forums won't let me attach anything over 8MB, and it's 10MB after zipped. Here's the link.
http://jjis.me/wretched/Firefox4.apk
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This coming from the guy using an Android device?
Due to the size of FF4, I've had to upload it to my server. The forums won't let me attach anything over 8MB, and it's 10MB after zipped. Here's the link.
http://jjis.me/wretched/Firefox4.apk
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Running Dromaeo test right now - want to compare Ff4 vs Opera.
In terms of user experience and smoothness of scrolling Opera 10 times better!
Thanks for the link.
I like the interface of Firefox better (especially for tabs), but with Opera's GPU acceleration its mobile browser is one of a kind. It is probably the best tablet browser on the planet....
Ok, apparently I had installed Opera Mobile(?) no idea. uninstalled and tried Opera Mini and.. wow, very smooth. Just tested a bit, need to test flash, but very impressive I like some interface things on FF better but this is very nice
Tried FF4, too long to load, not really any faster (IMHO) than Miren
FF is nice, but that backwards typing bug drives me nuts. (types right to left, weird)
After all I decided that Opera is the best for me. Nice looking, fast, opens in a second.
Does anyone have an Apk for ff 6?
I had recently switched over from HTC's stock browser to Opera Mobile browser and I'm loving it. It's much smoother and just feels better but something that was really well done in the stock browser is Google's site; really easy to use and looks and feels great. However, in Opera Mobile, it's a really bad, watered-down version that just looks ugly. Is there a way to get the good Google site to work on Opera Mobile?
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Try using Dolphin Mini, I found it to be smoother than opera mobile and the google website looks normal.
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If what you meant is the normal black-bar-ed google then you have to change its user agent into desktop view and go to google.com. If it changed into your local google, just click Go to Google.com at the bottom. The page will stick and then you're free to bookmark it.
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I tried Dolphin Mini and it was fast but not as smooth as Opera, which I'm still using but thanks for the suggestion.
I think I found the problem. When I go to Google.com on Opera, it goes to Google.com/pda but I want m.Google.com, the mobile version but I can't go there for some reason, I get an error and get redirected to another page.
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I m having the same problem. I switched from Opera to Google browser for this reason. I m a heavy user of Google search. But when i come into Opera, as mentioned by OP, the page looks torn down.
Seems like Google Page has been crossed referenced / optimized with Google Android Browser to look and work flawlessly while others browsers dont "have the source codes" to make the page appear and function in optimized state.
MoeKz, have you tried Skyfire browser. I have tried Firefox, and its worse than Opera and Dolphin. Although in the coming years m sure it will lead out like desktop browser. But i cant wait that long eh.
I'm having the same problem. I didn't like Dolphin Mini because it seemed like it waited until it had everything loaded before it actually showed me the page. I like for the text to pop up and then the images can slowly fill in.
I hate that I'm losing the Google search page. I liked how it had the extra buttons for places and the tabs across the top. *sad face*
I've been trying to get this to work the past few days, the current webpage is extremely unappealing
here is d solution!
its actually easy..
First, open up your standard android browser (not Opera), and browse to http://whatsmyuseragent.com.
It will give you your User Agent towards the top. It looks like this: Mozilla/5.0 Linux U Android 2.2.1 en-us SCH-I500 Build/MIUI AppleWebKit/533.1 KHTML, like Gecko Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1
Copy the whole thing and open Opera Mobile. Put opera:config in the URL bar and hit go. Scroll down to User Prefs (Second from the bottom) and tap on it. You will get a bunch of options. The one we're looking for is "Custom User Agent". Paste your copied UA into this text box, scroll to the bottom and hit save.
Now websites identify you as android browser n u get the same google.com , touch.facebook.com etc etc as it is i d stock browser....
should work in all phones...
P.S : this is only for Opera mobile n not for opera mini
hit THANKS button if this helps
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its actually easy..
First, open up your standard android browser (not Opera), and browse to http://whatsmyuseragent.com.
It will give you your User Agent towards the top. It looks like this: Mozilla/5.0 Linux U Android 2.2.1 en-us SCH-I500 Build/MIUI AppleWebKit/533.1 KHTML, like Gecko Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1
Copy the whole thing and open Opera Mobile. Put opera:config in the URL bar and hit go. Scroll down to User Prefs (Second from the bottom) and tap on it. You will get a bunch of options. The one we're looking for is "Custom User Agent". Paste your copied UA into this text box, scroll to the bottom and hit save.
Now websites identify you as android browser n u get the same google.com , touch.facebook.com etc etc as it is i d stock browser....
should work in all phones...
P.S : this is only for Opera mobile n not for opera mini
hit THANKS button if this helps
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Will do, the resolution though is all wrong. I copied from Dolphin Browser.. Kinda removed the stock one already
Edit: t9 wrote Linda instead of Kinda.. Duh
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This helped for Facebook, which is nice but Google isnt working properly anymore. It's glitchy and shows the full site instead of a mobile version. Do you have any idea why that would happen?
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Out of look when it comes to a solution? :-(
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I would LOVE a solution to this. I really prefer Opera over Dolphin. Here are my observations:
1. The stock browser/Dolphin with an android UA/Opera with an android UA (sometimes) all display the "android" version of google.com and facebook.com.
2. When Dolphin with an Android UA is used, everything is directed to the correct version and scaled correctly on google/facebook...just like the Android browser (they're almost the same, no surprise there).
3. When Opera with an Android UA is used, going to facebook.com doesn't always direct to the "Android" version...sometimes it's the archaic/ugly version (and even that is scaled incorrectly). Going to touch.facebook.com goes to the new version, but it still displays weird (very evident on the dropdown menus). The google homepage is the "Android" version, but it's VERY messed up.
Conclusion: There's still something different about the way Opera interprets the pages, independent of the user agent.
Theories: Opera has a TON of settings that can be changed under about:config and I'm confident something can be done to get things to scale correctly. Someone more familiar with Android is going to need to solve this, because I can't figure it out.
This link looks like it has some good info, and I'd be willing to bet our solution is somewhere in there. Is there anyway to modify Opera to do the same things Dolphin/Android can? Something with "webview"?
Someone please help!
I know this thread is old but I would like to find a solution. I have a galaxy note and am experiencing this issue. I have changed the custom user agent field but google does not render properly in opera. any suggestions?
Did you try deleting cache or reinstalling Opera?
West420 said:
Did you try deleting cache or reinstalling Opera?
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Yes I did. Problem is Opera doesn't load the proper google mobile sight. When Changing the user agent to the same one the stock android browser use's the mobile sight is displayed but rendered wrong.
Changing User Agent in Opera Mobile won't help.
Just Open www.google.com -> tap and hold search input box in the middle. (do it in Opera ofc)
dialog box will appear (chose something like "add search engine" ) -> now give it a name like GOOGLE DESKTOP or something .
Now In search box in Opera chose it as default (green tick)
That's it. Every time when You will use it, your results will be displayed on desktop version of google.
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Yes I did. Problem is Opera doesn't load the proper google mobile sight. When Changing the user agent to the same one the stock android browser use's the mobile sight is displayed but rendered wrong.
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Which rom/kernel are you using? Maybe you should post up a screenshot so we can compare it to others.
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HouseM said:
Changing User Agent in Opera Mobile won't help.
Just Open www.google.com -> tap and hold search input box in the middle. (do it in Opera ofc)
dialog box will appear (chose something like "add search engine" ) -> now give it a name like GOOGLE DESKTOP or something .
Now In search box in Opera chose it as default (green tick)
That's it. Every time when You will use it, your results will be displayed on desktop version of google.
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He should be able to simply scroll down to the bottom of the page where it gives the option of which version he would like to use (mobile/classic). That works perfectly fine for me using Opera Mobile.
This problem persists in Opera Mobile 12.0.1.
Here are 3 screenshots of Google's mobile homepage accessed by the stock browser, Opera Mobile and Opera Mobile with the modified user agent.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Note how the text overlaps the images in the screenshots on the right and the upper tabs are virtually non-existent. Most websites do render properly however but I still end up going back to stock browser when Opera gives me problems. I had this same issue with Opera on my PC which is why I stopped using it. This and Firefox are the only two browsers for Android that have their own rendering engines, the rest are just fancy shells (Dolphin, Miren, Maxthon, X-Scope, etc.) for the stock Webkit browser. Hopefully Opera will fix this since I prefer this in most cases to stock.
I have encountered another issue - modifying Opera Mobile's user agent has the consequence of locking it. I.E., you will no longer be able to toggle between mobile and desktop views in settings. You will have to go back to opera:config ->User prefs ->User Agent and press the 'default' button to remove it, then hit save and restart Opera.
Conclusion: Until Opera Mobile can fix the rendering of certain websites changing the user agent to a custom one is a waste of time. Use an alternate browser for the few websites I've come across that don't look right in Opera Mobile.
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Ok, now I see what you mean. Opera Mobile does the same for me. I thought you were trying to get the desktop version.
Basically after some research and trial and error it seems that when the ASUS engineers were finalizing the HC build for our Primes they left some settings on which conflict with each other. I have discovered the proper settings needed to achive fluidity and speed in the stock browser which does not impact FLASH or youtube or any site that uses embedded content for that matter. Basically all you have to do is open the stock browser and in the address bar type about:debug and then tap go. Nothing will appear however click on menu then settings and you will see a debug section added to the list. Make sure that your settings mirror the image below. I have tested this with the correct settings on and off and there is a huge difference. Videos coming soon. Again if you encounter any issues let me know.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Video showing speed increase
Stock Browsing
The instructions below are deprecated DO NOT FOLLOW
Hello everyone after reading all the mixed reviews here on XDA and being a personal owner in the community I wanted to shed some light on the browser lag issue. Initially when I got the prime I noticed the UI even with a Live wallpaper did not lag however the browser lagged a bit. I promptly remembered that stock browser has debug options. So I enabled debug and turned off "Enable OpenGL rendering " which is GPU hardware rendering of the web and I immediately noticed an increased response from the stock browser only down side is sunspider results dropped. However real world rendering and scrolling improved. Screenshots comming soon, please let me know what ur feedback is. Can't wait til ICS.
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I'm gonna try this right now. Thanks. It does suck however that we have to do this to get things to work a certain way for such a supposed to be high end device.
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Hello everyone after reading all the mixed reviews here on XDA and being a personal owner in the community I wanted to shed some light on the browser lag issue. Initially when I got the prime I noticed the UI even with a Live wallpaper did not lag however the browser lagged a bit. I promptly remembered that stock browser has debug options. So I enabled debug and turned off "Enable OpenGL rendering " which is GPU hardware rendering of the web and I immediately noticed an increased response from the stock browser only down side is sunspider results dropped. However real world rendering and scrolling improved. Screenshots comming soon, please let me know what ur feedback is. Can't wait til ICS.
To enable debug: type "about:debug" then hit go, then toto settings and you will see debug menu
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Didn't work. In a quick comparison I opened androidcentral.com with stock vs dolphin HD browser. Scrolling is still laggy on stock but smooth on dolphin. Ill stick to dolphin for now.
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Opera mobile is the best browser to use.I've seen no lag using it.Page rendering & scrolling works without a hitch.
Arun01 said:
Opera mobile is the best browser to use.I've seen no lag using it.Page rendering & scrolling works without a hitch.
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Opera is the best so far. Much better then stock or delphin.
stock browser sucks no matter device or OS. Opera mobile is the best on Prime right now.
Opera mobile is smooth, but accessing the bookmarks is so annoying. In Dolphin the bookmark access is so easy.
IMO this is why Apple still reigns. Try getting a housewife or someone not so technical, to understand they need a new browser, let alone how to do it.
Dont get me wrong, I dont have an Apple bone in my body. But cant deny there stuff is rock solid for the most part.
I've seen quite a bit of complaints about the stock browser. The ICS browser is greatly improved. I've used it on the Galaxy Nexus and it's much better than previous Android browsers. Let's just hope that Asus does actually get ICS out the door in January.
Ill try it out. I also enabled webGL. Not sure why that is not enabled, but I doubt many sites use it.
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IMO this is why Apple still reigns. Try getting a housewife or someone not so technical, to understand they need a new browser, let alone how to do it.
Dont get me wrong, I dont have an Apple bone in my body. But cant deny there stuff is rock solid for the most part.
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I have an Ipad also. safari is no better or faster. it sux also. I never use it. on Ipad I either use Icab or Atomic browser. they don't have opera mobile for it. only opera mini.
Seriously, folks, the one area where ICS will make marked and virtually guaranteed performance improvements is the stock browser. If the Galaxy Nexus browser performs decently with its meh processor and 1280X720 resolution, then we should see excellent performance on the Prime with Tegra 3.
I'm willing to be a little bit patient...
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I have an Ipad also. safari is no better or faster. it sux also. I never use it. on Ipad I either use Icab or Atomic browser. they don't have opera mobile for it. only opera mini.
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I dont agree with that. In my personal experience with my wifes iPad 1, and now her iPad 2 ... Safari is lightning fast in most cases.
In fact she brags about how much faster it is than her netbook.
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Seriously, folks, the one area where ICS will make marked and virtually guaranteed performance improvements is the stock browser. If the Galaxy Nexus browser performs decently with its meh processor and 1280X720 resolution, then we should see excellent performance on the Prime with Tegra 3.
I'm willing to be a little bit patient...
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You have to understand you are comparing a gingerbread browser versus a ice cream sandwich browser, you're going to see a big difference. The difference between honey comb and ice cream sandwich will be there but not as big as you saw coming from gingerbread.
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Does Opera still have a the Flash problem.. trying to view youtube videos on pages shows up black and only audio plays
Ipad 2 safari is fast, but Ipad 1 safari was a PITA especially if you use tabs.
Waiting my prime to arrive, gonna use Opera...
Arun01 said:
Opera mobile is the best browser to use.I've seen no lag using it.Page rendering & scrolling works without a hitch.
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I can't get flash to show up on Opera mobile. It's just a black box but I hear the sound. Also when I use google it defaults to google mobile, and I'd really like it to be in google classic. Does anyone know how to fix this?
d1ez3 said:
I can't get flash to show up on Opera mobile. It's just a black box but I hear the sound. Also when I use google it defaults to google mobile, and I'd really like it to be in google classic. Does anyone know how to fix this?
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Under settings>advanced >user agent> there is the option to set it to desktop.
I dont agree 100%. My Acer a100 7inch stock browser running HC 3.2 is smoother. Same with Lenovo ideapad k1(which I returned tovget the prime). But there's no need to use other browser. Here's a video of my a100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-99O4-gmQ6E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
demandarin said:
stock browser sucks no matter device or OS. Opera mobile is the best on Prime right now.
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Arun01 said:
Under settings>advanced >user agent> there is the option to set it to desktop.
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I've actually done this but when I try to load youtube videos, I still get only sound and no picture.