Have read so many negative comments just want to know if this is the best out or what. It has better spec than any other tablet but all I'm reading are complaints. Mine won't arrive til Wednesday and I haven't planned on buying the dock just picked up that black sleeve that reminds me of origami.
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cjbailey75 said:
Have read so many negative comments just want to know if this is the best out or what. It has better spec than any other tablet but all I'm reading are complaints. Mine won't arrive til Wednesday and I haven't planned on buying the dock just picked up that black sleeve that reminds me of origami.
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Yes, it is the best 10.1" Wi-Fi Android tablet out there. The raging debate you're reading is about how long it will stay that way.
You will always hear negative things about any tablet when they first come out. That should be expected nowadays.
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Sorry, but really? there are many MANY threads discussing the viability of this topic.
"Best" is a relative concept. seriously. why clutter up the already exploding forum with truly useless threads?
cjbailey75 said:
Have read so many negative comments just want to know if this is the best out or what. It has better spec than any other tablet but all I'm reading are complaints. Mine won't arrive til Wednesday and I haven't planned on buying the dock just picked up that black sleeve that reminds me of origami.
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Yes this is the best out for Android right now and probably stay that way for at least next 4 months or so. The negative comments are just the more vocal ones. More are completely satisfied with device. Like me, and others with none or very minor issues. I'm very satisfied with My prime. Best tablet I ever had and I came from an iPad. Which I loved also but the prime just blows away the Competition at the moment. As with any device, there will be initial issues that are real and effect some users. You have to remember they are the minority. Check out the positive prime thread and you will see how easily this device lived up to the hype and more.
I haven't been able to set the prime down since I got it
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I haven't been able to set the prime down since I got it
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I'm hoping to have mine tomorrow, and I'll probably be the same way with my wife yelling at me to put it down lol.
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I'm hoping to have mine tomorrow, and I'll probably be the same way with my wife yelling at me to put it down lol.
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I know what you mean..lol at least I prepared my Ipad got my woman to use. Signing off Facebook apps n such and deactivating my email accounts on there so she can add her info. I'll always still have access to it and have certain places in there locked down. So she can't go snooping in places she shouldn't be at...lmfao I still have to transfer websites/bookmarks, resume, etc.. To my prime though. My jail broken iPad is a great device but I have moved on to bigger and better, The Prime.
Thread should be moved to questions or closed. Best or not is subjective and a waste of time especially when OP has stated it has the best specs.
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I haven't been able to set the prime down since I got it
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Glad to see I'm not the only one...I was beginning to wonder if this was normal.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one...I was beginning to wonder if this was normal.
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Yes, it is the best Android tablet out right now.
Naturally, the best products out there receive the most scrutiny, so that's why you're reading so many "negative" things about the Prime right now. That's a byproduct of being one of the best products out there.
And as said already, the comments aren't about if the Prime is the best but rather about how long it will be the best. My personal view is that the Prime is an in-between device that is between the 1st gen Android tabs and the wave of 2nd gen tabs coming out in 2012, but I invite you to do your own research on the Prime and on upcoming tablets and to make your own decision on where the Prime stands.
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Yes, it is the best Android tablet out right now.
Naturally, the best products out there receive the most scrutiny, so that's why you're reading so many "negative" things about the Prime right now. That's a byproduct of being one of the best products out there.
And as said already, the comments aren't about if the Prime is the best but rather about how long it will be the best. My personal view is that the Prime is an in-between device that is between the 1st gen Android tabs and the wave of 2nd gen tabs coming out in 2012, but I invite you to do your own research on the Prime and on upcoming tablets and to make your own decision on where the Prime stands.
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I ran out of thanks. Very well put.
If there's one thing I'm going to take with me when I die, it's that this world is composed of 99% whiners.
To this day, I still see people whine about the stupidest things about the TF101. Some examples are a few people whining about being able to see the capacitive sensor grid under certain lighting at a certain angle. I've seen some people whine about the TF101 not feeling like a laptop. In fact, I think that's the #1 complaint I've seen about the TF101. People bought it thinking they can use it like a laptop.
I've seen people whine about the background moving slightly when you scroll from screen to screen.
I have the acer iconia, and so I've seen people whine about ridiculous things about that as well. Everything from the metalic back is cold to the touch to the sensor grid being visible under certain light at certain angle to it doesn't feel like a laptop.
Why is it that the prevalent whine for any tablet is that it doesn't feel like a laptop? Why the hell do people buy the tablet with the intention to use it like a laptop? Is there some kind of mental block involved here?
This is not to say that I see every complaint as a whine. In fact, I think there are many legit complaints about design flaws, software bugs, etc. You just have to filter out all the whines to see the real legit and constructive criticisms.
The point is don't just blindly look at the negative reviews. Actually read those negative reviews and try to weed out all the whines.
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Here's an example.
http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-T...?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar
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Some examples are a few people whining about being able to see the capacitive sensor grid under certain lighting at a certain angle.
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I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I love that.... I can tilt it different ways and see cool different patterns. It's fun to look at...
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I'm not on anything, I swear!
The Prime is the best tablet with the best Tablet-OS right now.
This could or will change in a few months, but this is normal in these days.
Sorry to say but I am not impressed with this tablet. I want to be, but it is just not happening. I just posted an initial review where you can read the details but to summarize:
- Hard to hold, very slippery
- Horrible keyboards
- SLOW web browser
- Short Battery Life
- No real noticable difference performance improvemant compared to my Toshiba Thrive
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Sorry to say but I am not impressed with this tablet. I want to be, but it is just not happening. I just posted an initial review where you can read the details but to summarize:
- Hard to hold, very slippery
- Horrible keyboards...as compared to what? Not sure if you've heard about Andorid market, but the legends tells of many keyboard alternatives it posses.
- SLOW web browser...as compared to what? An iPad (yes it's not iOS)? or your Thrive? Again see above comment.
- Short Battery Life...you've had it for at best a week, the battery is nowhere near broken in.
- No real noticeable difference performance improvement compared to my Toshiba Thrive....Curious, what do you use your tablet for to measure this "performance"? Your email reading isn't going to get any faster with the T3...
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See the above edited quote. It seems you do not perceive the device to meet your expectations...easy solution, return the prime and keep using your Thrive as it is obviously a better solution for you.
My big issue with Prime is that it has gotten lukewarm reviews since release, especially by its users. While people were criticizing my fears and predictions a month ago, reality is that Prime is not as big a step forward as hoped, neither in software nor in hardware.
Hardware seems to be flawed with weak WiFi and the chance of getting a device with some sort of hardware flaw, including light bleeds, weak GPS, dead pixels, weak and unresponsive touch screen, screen that is dusty from behind the glass, or a device that just does not turn on, is higher than that of an average new product. Especially when compared to Apple's releases, which - while not flawless - hasn't made me fearful for the products quality that I am buying. I love Android so much more as a software, despite its weaknesses, simply because the ecosystem and much better openness compared to Apple are worth it for me. It pains me to see a device that has flawed and untested hardware.
Second issue is software. Quad-core does not improve anything much and ICS will not improve things other than (hopefully) the browser. Prime has very little RAM, which I think would be much better for an Android device than quad-core. Prime would be a better device with higher-clocked dual-core processor and 2GB of RAM. And you have to remember that the snappiness of software is highly dependent on hardware too, a recent Finnish review pointed out that the touchscreen is simply weak and not as responsive as it should be, making the software seem slow. This too won't be fixed by ICS.
And let's not forget the issue that I raised very early on about the Prime: battery life. Now that users actually have the device, it has become clear that battery life on Transformer Prime sucks. Everybody was up with pitchforks when I made those early predictions, but those were true predictions. Users report 6-7 hours of battery life in actual use, which is far from 10+ hours. Even with fresh battery this is very little. This means that I could not use Prime as the main device for lectures and web browsing while at University.
I will still be buying it and hoping that I won't get a flawed device, since I'm ordering it internationally and returns are a pain. At least it should be better than the original Transformer. But main reason for my purchase is the keyboard dock. If I did not want the keyboard dock, I would not purchase Transformer Prime.
That makes 3 of us. My wife has gotten mad at me a few times... Lol
I love it, but I am itching for some ICS.
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So we read blogs/articles/magazines/web sites that absolutely rave about the Transformer Prime and have nothing negative to say then we get real world users that do nothing but complain about everything you could possibly think of so the question is.
A.) Did the company's that reviews these get a souped up turbo charged version of the Prime and everyone else got a dumbed down inferior version?
B.) Are the tech company's and magazine publishers lieing to us
C.) Are the real world forum reviews on XDA anal retentive and will complain about anything and everything regardless of what the product is.
Do we have a gray area here in between any of the above 3 scenarios? Something just does not make sense here.
I choose C
I take the the 50:50 joker!
Hm hard to answer, heavy question...maybe all of them?^^
A) That's ridiculous. Reviewers got units with bad WiFi. So they're certainly not better than what people are buying off the streets. Also, the media would go nuts if they ever found out manufacturers were sending them shill units just to get better results.
B) Reviewers are people too and all have their own biases. There may be a positive or negative slant to a review based on those biases but I'd guess they're 80-90% objective. If they always bias their reviews, people would stop reading them.
C) There are three different types of XDA'rs. 1) Unilateral fanboys that can see no wrong even though it's clear something’s amiss. There were people denying the SGS1 had GPS issues when it was totally clear they all did. 2) Pessimists that always look for the negative and amplify it without basis. Some of them may not even own the device. 3) Normal people who just want to share info, have no motive in their comments, and don't need self-validation though forum exchanges. They are usually attacked by the fanboys and pessimists for not having a stronger position either way.
There's clearly some common issues with the early Prime's and the fanboys are out in force denying them while the pessimists are making them larger then they need to be. Look for posts from normal people and use your own judgement in forming an opinion on any particular issue.
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A) That's ridiculous. Reviewers got units with bad WiFi. So they're certainly not better than what people are buying off the streets. Also, the media would go nuts if they ever found out manufacturers were sending them shill units just to get better results.
B) Reviewers are people too and all have their own biases. There may be a positive or negative slant to a review based on those biases but I'd guess they're 80-90% objective. If they always bias their reviews, people would stop reading them.
C) There are three different types of XDA'rs. 1) Unilateral fanboys that can see no wrong even though it's clear something’s amiss. There were people denying the SGS1 had GPS issues when it was totally clear they all did. 2) Pessimists that always look for the negative and amplify it without basis. Some of them may not even own the device. 3) Normal people who just want to share info, have no motive in their comments, and don't need self-validation though forum exchanges. They are usually attacked by the fanboys and pessimists for not having a stronger position either way.
There's clearly some common issues with the early Prime's and the fanboys are out in force denying them while the pessimists are making them larger then they need to be. Look for posts from normal people and use your own judgement in forming an opinion on any particular issue.
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Lets just use one example the magazines and blogs that reviewed the prime said the speed and browsing was blazing fast everyone on here says its slow and choppy and not even on par with the iPad 2 so how did we get such a difference of opinion on this perticular topic?
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Lets just use one example the magazines and blogs that reviewed the prime said the speed and browsing was blazing fast everyone on here says its slow and choppy and not even on par with the iPad 2 so how did we get such a difference of opinion on this perticular topic?
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Some reviews are very thorough. AnandTech is one of those. Typically, a reviewer spends between a couple of days and a week with a device. Reviewers of the Prime actually commented on how little time they got to spend with it before writing their reviews.
Using a device casually with few apps on it is going to get a different result then loading it up with stuff that the reviewer uses on their own personal device and then using it as a daily driver. Out of the box, even Teg2 devices perform well. A lot of the reviewers really didn't put the Prime through its paces. Look for the reviewers that did, like AnandTech and GSMArena.
The SoC is just one part of the performance equation. For the Prime, the bottleneck looks to be s/w in some cases. I think that's what's happening in your example. And ICS is going to be a big improvement for GB users but it's foundation is actually HC. There are just some things we're going to have to live with in Android and some lag and hesitation in certain functions seems to be one of them. Maybe through s/w optimization and updates Asus (or any manufacturer) may make it better but it seems to be a fact of life. There was a great article from a Google engineer explaining the lag that I'll try to find. It helps understand the difference between iOS and Android.
you saw how anandtech got a hand picked unit to test. if i were a company id send out the best units to reviewers
what is this nonsense, i see a whole crap load of positive posts about the asus.
the negative ones are mostly people who have simple issues that most tablets come with.
I think as somebody has posted elsewhere - there are probably MANY people at home loving their primes and not bothering to mention it on here whilst people having issues will want to find others with those issues, generally ***** and moan, etc. It's a biased cohort on here for sure.
I tend to believe that a lot of the reviewers give positive raves because they get their crap for free! It's totally different for someone who pays $500.00 for it. Of course we expect more because we paid for top notch!
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I tend to believe that a lot of the reviewers give positive raves because they get their crap for free! It's totally different for someone who pays $500.00 for it. Of course we expect more because we paid for top notch!
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They don't keep em. They have to send it back.
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C. except maybe the gps, which isnt working for many (includingthe 3 I've tried personally).
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the negative ones are mostly people who have simple issues that most tablets come with.
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There aren't that many Primes out there. The number of issues being reported from a small sample set and the commonality is something to watch. It's too early to say whether they're just early production teething issues, random QC issues, or a design/manufacturing issue. Not all the people reporting problems are alarmists and say positive things along with the negative.
I love this device and have had a few issues with it as well. It's worrisome that the GPS doesn't work and I have had some browser typing lag and a few other minor issues. The reason you hear so much about the negative stuff is that no one is gathering together to talk about what they should do about their tablet being so fast and smooth.
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Good thing they'll be only coming out in January in my country. They'll come with QWERTZ keyboard so its probably a different batch.
I think its pretty clear they rushed some things especially in the software department to get it out in time for USA launch. Seems to me like the software is just a port from the original transformer with some added tweaks. Every IT device i owned had some problems at first. If I compare the performance of my DesireHD with custom rom and everything to how it was when i first bought it a year ago... OMG about every aspect of the device is better now. And that only through software tweaks.
I think it's all about the big rush to get the review out ASAP. Like somebody else said, they don't put 100 apps on it and use it constantly to figure out that a little glitch that happened that time is actually a bug that happens consistently when you do certain things. Like the diff between motor trend doing initial impressions on a car review vs long term reviews a year later.
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Some reviews are very thorough. AnandTech is one of those. Typically, a reviewer spends between a couple of days and a week with a device. Reviewers of the Prime actually commented on how little time they got to spend with it before writing their reviews.
Using a device casually with few apps on it is going to get a different result then loading it up with stuff that the reviewer uses on their own personal device and then using it as a daily driver. Out of the box, even Teg2 devices perform well. A lot of the reviewers really didn't put the Prime through its paces. Look for the reviewers that did, like AnandTech and GSMArena.
The SoC is just one part of the performance equation. For the Prime, the bottleneck looks to be s/w in some cases. I think that's what's happening in your example. And ICS is going to be a big improvement for GB users but it's foundation is actually HC. There are just some things we're going to have to live with in Android and some lag and hesitation in certain functions seems to be one of them. Maybe through s/w optimization and updates Asus (or any manufacturer) may make it better but it seems to be a fact of life. There was a great article from a Google engineer explaining the lag that I'll try to find. It helps understand the difference between iOS and Android.
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Just throwing my two-cents out there but I thought ICS was based on the linux 3.x series kernel and HC was on a 2.6 derivative... That alone makes me feel like ICS is more groud-up built OS as opposed to an OS derived directly from HC. Think revolution, not evolution. Or am I wrong or just blowing this out of proportion?
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Just throwing my two-cents out there but I thought ICS was based on the linux 3.x series kernel and HC was on a 2.6 derivative... That alone makes me feel like ICS is more groud-up built OS as opposed to an OS derived directly from HC. Think revolution, not evolution. Or am I wrong or just blowing this out of proportion?
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Here's some links. There's a bunch of new APIs for developers to write against but, other than that, the only technical benefit to ICS is h/w acceleration. That already exists in HC. It seems that a lot of stuff the manufacturers added-on are now included natively in the OS. So it seems like a "revolution" for GB but "evolution" for HC. Any developers with more insight chime in.
ICS Features:
http://briefmobile.com/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-announced-feature-list
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http://android-developers.blogspot.com/search/label/Android 4.0
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http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/03/android-30-hardware-acceleration.html
Downloaded thumb keyboard. Seems like the best keyboard for tablets. No lag when typing.
I think the consumers will be harsh on the prime because we had to wait for it and there was much hype about the prime. The reviewers from websites didn't spent their hard earned dollars on this piece of equipment.
The way I see it, we have every right to be harsh on judging the prime. We expected something that works. If there were kinks in the software, fine. But seems like we have some real concerns about this device that aren't just kinks.
Hopefully ASUS actually reading these feedbacks and are going to address our concerns soon.
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I dont own a prime but this situation reminds me a lot of when the galaxy s first came out. The reviews were overwelmingly positive but once i got my device it turned out to be nothing like the reviews. It took months and an actual hardware revision before it worked ok.
Never trust early reviews and avoid being an early adopter. I want to see how it performs on ics before buying.
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I didn't get a "perfect" transformer prime (one dead pixel and no gps) but I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. The ui is fast, everything opens up in a second, the video streaming on youtube/veetle (app)/imdb (app) is ridiculously smooth, the sound quality is loud and clear, the build is very sturdy... i could go on and on.
If you were thinking about getting one but got deterred by some of the posts on here, remember that we are early adopters. imperfections are what we put up with to be the first kids on the block with these amazing tablets. The people that are having issues are a minority: we only post to complain, never to praise. its human nature.
Day one 3g xoom owner. Talk about early adopters... anyway OP is correct. Your prime is pimp and patience is a virtue
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I didn't get a "perfect" transformer prime (one dead pixel and no gps) but I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. The ui is fast, everything opens up in a second, the video streaming on youtube/veetle (app)/imdb (app) is ridiculously smooth, the sound quality is loud and clear, the build is very sturdy... i could go on and on.
If you were thinking about getting one but got deterred by some of the posts on here, remember that we are early adopters. imperfections are what we put up with to be the first kids on the block with these amazing tablets. The people that are having issues are a minority: we only post to complain, never to praise. its human nature.
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Problems on new releases are a must have. You'd be hard pressed to find any product with a smooth predictable release. I'm personally glad you guys bit the bullet for the rest of us to figure out whether we should buy in now or wait. The device is still very attractive. With the feature set the Transformer Prime offers, you're not going to find much better elsewhere any time soon.
However, I am incredibly upset with ASUS and their response to these complaints about buggy software, faulty design, and inoperable components. They have no right changing the feature set to suit what is currently "working," so they can avoid fixing it. I hope they wise up, otherwise people that are waiting to purchase when the bugs are worked out, like myself, might just wait until some other manufacturer delivers on our needs.
Whether or not people who are having issues are a minority, I'm afraid that the Prime has a greater percentage of problems than most devices. Say 35% of people may have problems (edit: this is of course a hypothetical number), and that would technically be a minority, but its still a huge problem and greater than what most other devices have. Its just my personal opinion that some of the Primes problems boil down to design faults rather than QC (while other issues definitely are QC).
Go for the Prime if you really want it. I highly suggest you take a purchasing route that allows you to easily get your money back in case you get a defective unit, though.
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I didn't get a "perfect" transformer prime (one dead pixel and no gps) but I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. The ui is fast, everything opens up in a second, the video streaming on youtube/veetle (app)/imdb (app) is ridiculously smooth, the sound quality is loud and clear, the build is very sturdy... i could go on and on.
If you were thinking about getting one but got deterred by some of the posts on here, remember that we are early adopters. imperfections are what we put up with to be the first kids on the block with these amazing tablets. The people that are having issues are a minority: we only post to complain, never to praise. its human nature.
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thanks, this thread was needed. Prime will still blow any other tablet away right now. even with its issues affecting some users. I'm just glad I didn't get a defective device with some of these issues people been describing. that's what so crazy about it. I've been here since 12/22 perfectly enjoying my experience with the Prime. haven't even touched my Ipad since. most of the stuff I had on Ipad I went on and got for Android. experience is night n day better than on my Ipad. Tegra3 is a beast!
Well, I will wait and see the upcoming fresh batch with ICS. Probably ASUS will fix the back with some plastic patches to improve the WiFi and GPS, or totally redesign it.
Also to watch whats on CES and February Mobile World.
Glad that I live in Europe, The Prime has not been released here. Otherwise I would jump to preorder and end up disappointed.
Oh well, my Galaxy Nexus is big enough as mini tablet, and I can use my wife iPad2 .
I have to say i had a few bugs with mine but gps locks right away and i have no dead pixels or bleeding etc... My problem was when it brought in restore from my phone an app was causing reboots and lag. I factory reset and started from scratch and now this thing is beast. I wouldn't trade this for and other tablet and I have tried about all of them. I would not let any of these reviews discourage you.
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I'm pretty used to dodgy GPS on my devices (N95 - slow, no AGPS; Touch Pro - likewise; Galaxy S - awful) so my expectations are rather low tere... As long as mine has functional WiFi and no other major bugs I'm sure I'll be happy with it!
Other tablets will come out this year which will beat it on screen resolution and single/dual-threaded performance, but I'm getting this for the keyboard dock as much as anything else, so I don't think I'm going to be wishing I waited for one of those.
i could live with certain issues like bleeding, light leaks, etc. But GPS is one of those most important features to me, seeing it not working properly is a huge disappointment.
The way I look at it, the prime had time to get the kinks out from the Asian/American releases,
hopefully now us Europeans will get slightly revised better checked units.
Atleast I hope so..
Screen bleed never bothered me a whole lot, bad wifi is also something im used to,
no working GPS however is a bit of a disappointment because the tablet was to be my only means of navigation.
I definitely do not want a screen with ANY dead pixel though, it would drive me up the walls.
I have a laptop with one in the middle and its like it is screaming at me "look at me look at me look at me!".
But im not gonna let all these horror stories get to me,
there's still a good chance ill get a nice working unit ill be perfectly happy with.
Im gonna make sure I buy it somewhere nearby, with a good return policy though!
love this thread, i am so close to not getting this thing.
this has changed not my mind, but it helps me relax a wee bit about my purchase.
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I own a Prime for 3 days now, no dead pixels, no GPS and wifi reception is okay imho. Nevertheless the Transformer Prime is a beautiful device: thin, ultra-fast, durable and elegant. I would buy it again
But:
I am really upset about Asus removing silently GPS from the specifications and I am waiting for an official statement.
Asus cant just ignore the elephant in the room, I think we'll all have a nice handsome GPS function in icecream sandwich.
No point fixing a wagon that ll be scrapped in a week or two, right?
As much as I want it as as painful it's going to be..I'm going to wait! There, I said it, now I have to keep to my word. LOL
If Asus continues with current PR strategy (removing stuff quietly), we will see crap loads of cancellations of pre-orders and subsequent price drop. I bet you it'll be 50GBP cheaper (for 32gb + dock) by the end of next month, if not sooner.
Question is : how long can I wait
s1lenz said:
I didn't get a "perfect" transformer prime (one dead pixel and no gps) but I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. The ui is fast, everything opens up in a second, the video streaming on youtube/veetle (app)/imdb (app) is ridiculously smooth, the sound quality is loud and clear, the build is very sturdy... i could go on and on.
If you were thinking about getting one but got deterred by some of the posts on here, remember that we are early adopters. imperfections are what we put up with to be the first kids on the block with these amazing tablets. The people that are having issues are a minority: we only post to complain, never to praise. its human nature.
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now I haven't seen not one negative thread post or topic on Prime get 10 or more thanks. Keep preaching on brother we will prevail and outshine the darkness.
s1lenz said:
I didn't get a "perfect" transformer prime (one dead pixel and no gps) but I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. The ui is fast, everything opens up in a second, the video streaming on youtube/veetle (app)/imdb (app) is ridiculously smooth, the sound quality is loud and clear, the build is very sturdy... i could go on and on.
If you were thinking about getting one but got deterred by some of the posts on here, remember that we are early adopters. imperfections are what we put up with to be the first kids on the block with these amazing tablets. The people that are having issues are a minority: we only post to complain, never to praise. its human nature.
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I agree totally. I think Asus should have done a test market in Taiwan first. Waited two months get the bugs out then released it. If they had originally given a February release date and fixed things accordingly to the test market findings they would be seen in a much better light. I think this push to get it out was a mistake. I love my prime. I'm one of the lucky ones with no real issues. But if they had given a later release date I would have waited. Its just a matter of keeping the public informed.
Hi guys, heard of this tab before but never found out the specs, and I gotta say, I'm impressed, and it has great support here in xda (a virtuous Rom is good enough for me lol). So I was thinking of buying an iPad this year, especially if the 3rd gen comes out. But really, I'm getting tired of ios( I have an iPod touch), and I also have a galaxy tab 7(old one) which sucks completely. Also, where would be the best place to buy this quad core beast?
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Prime, no question. Which software you prefer - iOS vs. ICS - will likely come down as a matter of personal preference. Most people on this board will probably tell you they like the customizability and increased functionality that Android offers over iOS. But the hardware on the Prime is superior as well:
- Better, sharper, and wide-screen display
- Camera is head and shoulders better (arguably the best tablet camera on the market)
- Tegra 3 is a beast
- Ports - expansion slots, HDMI, and USB (with dock) all give the device much greater flexibility and functionality.
- The dock - this thing is way more awesome than a bluetooth keyboard
- FLASH. Apple and Google can pretend it doesn't matter, but we all know that the internet is a lonely, porno-less place without flash.
Plus, I love the spun aluminum design. The iPad is a pretty piece of kit, but the Prime beats it with the spun aluminum and widescreen aspect ratio. The iPad's 4:3 makes me feel like there isn't much difference between holding it in "portrait" or "landscape," whereas the Prime offers two distinct viewing experiences, each offering their own benefits. Don't worry so much about all the talk about wi-fi problems - they seem to be limited to a minority, and you can always take it back for a new one if you encounter problems. Plus, that's why you have the friendly folks of XDA to help
really depends the type of person you are....
for example.... im a straight up hacker, i hack everything i get my hands on..... thats why i chose the prime.... im dying to mod this thing completely....
HOWEVER, the ipad has way better software..... it all depends what you want.... either mod or nice apps....
i'm mostly talking about really good apps to make music on the ipad that the android dont have
In reviews, the prime out performs the ipad2 hands down. Easy choice.
Definitely get the Prime, its amazing, and much more fun than an iOS device which you run out of neat little things to figure out in about 5min. Also don't get too turned off by all of the problems on this forum because people use the forums for support so there will always be tons of issues on here, many of which are only caused by users f**king around with unofficial updates they found online. As far as hardware and software I have had no major problems that went unresolved, my wifi and Bluetooth are also great.
At first i would have said neither (hate ipads) but on my 4th machine i think i got a fully working one, even picked up 10 sats which was a first.. now i would say almost definitely a prime.. sooner or later someone will add http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone into their rom, that thing looks amazing..
Wait until the iPad 3 comes out before deciding. As of now the Asus Transformer Prime smokes the iPad 2 in terms of specs, but it's to be expected since the iPad 2 is a year old and the Prime is just a month or two. Meanwhile, the iPad 3 will have a Retina Display and either a quad core Cortex-A9 processor or a dual core Cortex-A15. Both options will match or maybe even beat Tegra 3.
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Definitely get the Prime, its amazing, and much more fun than an iOS device which you run out of neat little things to figure out in about 5min. Also don't get too turned off by all of the problems on this forum because people use the forums for support so there will always be tons of issues on here, many of which are only caused by users f**king around with unofficial updates they found online. As far as hardware and software I have had no major problems that went unresolved, my wifi and Bluetooth are also great.
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Well said!
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Honestly. Just go the store. Try each one, research reviews and what you like and go with it.
Prime users will give reasonable pro and con arguments. IPad users will just say 'ipad rules' and that's the end of their argument and troll other forums being all evangelical. Me hate Apple? Just a bit.
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Honestly. Just go the store. Try each one, research reviews and what you like and go with it.
Prime users will give reasonable pro and con arguments. IPad users will just say 'ipad rules' and that's the end of their argument and troll other forums being all evangelical. Me hate Apple? Just a bit.
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Bias much? There are just as many Android fanboys who simply say, "Everything from Apple sucks and everything with Android rules." Honestly, if you're going to ridicule Apple fans, at least don't stoop to their levels.
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Bias much? There are just as many Android fanboys who simply say, "Everything from Apple sucks and everything with Android rules." Honestly, if you're going to ridicule Apple fans, at least don't stoop to their levels.
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I think my biggest beef is what they charge for their products and it isn't always the latest and greatest technology.
I think my fav joke I heard was 'how do you know someone owns an Apple product?
Just wait. They'll tell you.
Wow guys thanks for all the quick responses! If I were to buy an iPad it be for the apps, but I am a hacker, and I think the prime suits me better lol. If the iPad 3 comes out then ill decide thanks!!
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Don't worry so much about all the talk about wi-fi problems - they seem to be limited to a minority, and you can always take it back for a new one if you encounter problems. Plus, that's why you have the friendly folks of XDA to help
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I love the prime very much. But I think this is a very misleading statement. Most everybody has horrible wifi from any sort of distance. In fact the minority is hands down the people who don't have this problem. Like I said, I love this thing, but I'll be very unhappy if Asus does not offer a hardware fix for all the problems we have, at some point.
Well obviously the iPad is the clear winner, duh
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1515179
Might as well wait and see what iPad 3 has to deliver
I had this debate when I was looking for the tablet and the only reason to get a ipad 2 is for the apps they have,I own both but to me the prime is alot more fun
And to me more productive when I go to class the dock is awesome
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.Prime hands down, future updates and mods will make this beast something even more beastly than can imagine, once Android OS evolves more and proper use of all 5 cores will be available then this will be a dream machine. The T700 is cool but i really don't see the point of a 1080p screen. If you want to enjoy 1080p then you do it on a TV min 40 inch or so.
Wish there was a way to expand or implement more RAM memory.
Asides from the GPS not working not even once, im so happy with this machine, and it has so much potential. My wifi is always good, battery is fine, all and all hardware is ok its just the firmware that needs improvement.
In the .14 firmware i had a total of 3 reboots and flickering many times.
So far .15 seems ok but its only been 1 day.
Surfing is great, recording is FANTASTIC, the recording sound is so nice also.
I love the that you can film in macro as well.
Keyboard dock is something unique to Asus in Android surfpads and it really is great, would be col if they maybe one day release a better dock with a larger battery and perhaps luminated keyboard with a on/off feature.
I couldnt be happier with this machine, i am going to send it back to see if they can replace it with the new batch that it coming but at the same time i am afraid because its running so great even tho its has some issues (asides from GPS).
Gonna change until i find the 'perfect' one
Best b-day gift ever
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I love the prime very much. But I think this is a very misleading statement. Most everybody has horrible wifi from any sort of distance. In fact the minority is hands down the people who don't have this problem. Like I said, I love this thing, but I'll be very unhappy if Asus does not offer a hardware fix for all the problems we have, at some point.
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This isn't true at all. I have a Prime and my WiFi is very nearly as good as my Windows laptop, and just as good if not better than my Galaxy S2 phone. People here complain about poor WiFi performance because they are looking for solutions, but I don't think people who at XDA members represent an unbiased or fair representation of the overall population of Transformer Prime owners.
As far as TF Primes with issues, only .57% of all Primes sold to date have been returned with WiFi performance listed as the problem. In general the return/complaint rate for the Transformer Prime doesn't seem to be very far out of line with the complaint rate for similar products which indicates that there are a lot of happy Transformer Prime users (myself included).
(source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57373634-94/putting-the-transformer-prime-in-perspective/)
Good sir, I would advise you to not contemplate obtaining an iPad. The reason for this is not that I, and many others advocate the fact that the iPad is a sub-par device in terms of both hardware and software, but because the iPad is simply does not entrust the consumer any flexibility to accomplish what they desire. Apple has a pattern of perpetual arguments with the effervescent jailbreakers that constantly publish transient workarounds; these aforementioned conflicts greatly limit the updates of the device so that the user experience cannot and will not have the fluidity that you apparently so desire. However, if you wish to imprison your being within the garden of apples creation, then I implore you to leave this internet site at once for this place is not one made for bigots or conformists who aspire to become hipsters. If you have ascertained that the iPad is the device that you find transcendent, then I have no more words for you but the greatest form of pity. Moreover, if you find my erudite admonition too strenuous to interpret, then attempt to comprehend the following:
Yo, don't get dat ipad cuz it be not good. Yo da tf has so much mo features so get dat **** now.
Good sir, I would advise you to not contemplate obtaining an iPad. The reason for this is not that I, and many others advocate the fact that the iPad is a sub-par device in terms of both hardware and software, but because the iPad is simply does not entrust the consumer any flexibility to accomplish what they desire. Apple has a pattern of perpetual arguments with the effervescent jailbreakers that constantly publish transient workarounds; these aforementioned conflicts greatly limit the updates of the device so that the user experience cannot and will not have the fluidity that you apparently so desire. However, if you wish to imprison your being within the garden of apples creation, then I implore you to leave this internet site at once for this place is not one made for bigots or conformists who aspire to become hipsters. If you have ascertained that the iPad is the device that you find transcendent, then I have no more words for you but the greatest form of pity. Moreover, if you find my erudite admonition too strenuous to interpret, then attempt to comprehend the following:<br />
Yo, don't get dat ipad cuz it be not good. Yo da tf has so much mo features so get dat **** now.
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Hahahaha lolololol man very nice!! Even though I'm kinda a hipster, but I don't like apple that much
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I'm potentially getting a used one today to replace my iPad. I'm moving from the apple ecosystem to android. Had an android phone now for a while and would rather have a tablet as well versus incomplete syncing of the two.
I last had an android tab in January and the app scene was very bad for tablets, and I read the prime had a lot of issues.
Did either resolve?
I'm getting it cheap, so I don't mind the infinity coming out and may switch to it later. But want to get a head start on moving my extensive ecosystem to google
As a Prime owner, my advice is to stay far away from anything Asus. It's becoming clear to me they can't fix the issues in this device. I wish I never bought mine.
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Wow... Sadly I don't know an alternative non-7 inch android tablet...
I feel your pain, as I'm also interested in a 10" tablet with plenty of storage, and there are no great options at this point. I'm just trying to give you a heads up. Between the slow ass I/O issues that they obviously can't fix, the firmware releases that keep fixing one thing and breaking 3 others, the cheap parts used (search the forum for LCD mura), the poor design choices (good luck connecting to a far away Wifi signal), and the terrible support (read some of the horrible RMA stories here), I wouldn't touch another Asus product with a 10 foot pole.
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maybe the best will be to wait a lil bit more and see the TF700. But in any case, I really don't see the point of buying the Tf201 right now, with the 300 offering a very similar experience (imho there some quite recognisable slow downs overally speaking but it's still close enough for the price difference) for a cheaper price, and the Tf700 to be shipped in the following weeks. For those proficient in french, here is a test of the device
http://www.lesnumeriques.com/tablet...pad-infinity-tf700-avec-dock-p13514/test.html
and as far as the wifi goes, it's as smooth and stable as the 300 (if not better). So no matter how many software updates Asus is going to throw at us, it is highly unlikely that our beloved prime Tf201 (yes I still love the tablet even though it pisses me bigtime to have such a mediocre wifi connectivity) going to achieve that performance.
I would look into Samsung if i could do it again or Acer Iconia as a close second.
I would go for it! I am having a wonderful experience with my Prime. It's by far the best Imo. Forums are ruled by people seeking answers to there issues either caused by themselves tinkering with the device or just real issues. Most are quite happy. You should check out the Positive Transformer Prime thread linked to my sig. Then decide for yourself.
I have two primes and one 300. I like them all. My unlocked prime with wookie ROM is the best. It is faster than my laptop. Why not buy a prime if your getting it for a good price?
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I would go for it! I am having a wonderful experience with my Prime. It's by far the best Imo. Forums are ruled by people seeking answers to there issues either caused by themselves tinkering with the device or just real issues. Most are quite happy. You should check out the Positive Transformer Prime thread linked to my sig. Then decide for yourself.
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I generally agree with jj here.. I love my Prime. Yes, there's a few little quirks here and there, but nothing as world ending as some people would have you believe. Compared to the other devices on the market, I'd still go with this one if I had to again.
(Now, if a Nexus 10 comes out.. mmm.. bets might be off
As it is with anything on the internet... the 5% that have problems make up the 95% majority who scream the loudest.
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As it is with anything on the internet... the 5% that have problems make up the 95% majority who scream the loudest.
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That and I just can't see anyone (in their right mind) that would post positive "complaints" on a developer/troubleshooting forum...
My $.02: I have it, it's OK. I would not buy one again. Basically when you buy a Prime keep in mind that you're buying an "almost ready for beta" product.
Bottom line: if you don't mind beta testing for ASUS (yes, 8 months later and we're still beta testing) then go for it!
If you're getting it for $300 or under then do it. Otherwise go for a Galaxy Tab.
Go for it! been loving mines since I got it in dec. not everyone has issues. jjdevega summed it up best.
I think you have to accept the mindset that you are going to have to tweak your Prime to get everything just right. Coming from an iPad this will be a different experience.
Personally I have experienced all the issues mentioned above on my Prime. I even RMA'd and refunded my 1st unit. However, I have been having a lot of fun applying the different tweaks and experimenting with what works best for my individual use case. I can tell you that my Prime is absolutely BLAZING right now - it is completely stable and performance is beyond my expectations.
I was pessimistic for a long time, but now I know I prefer having the options (because of an amazing developer community) to tinker and modify.
If this is appealing to you, the Prime is a great choice.
well , i think i have been top complainer on the prime. However i love this tablet.
its not perfect yet but i trust in asus that they start working on it now the google tablet is done.
some weeks ago i was really pessimistic but developers like wookie, motley baboo, ckhtml and more, and demandarin for his help with submitting issues, gave back hope.
and tbh, asus support has been great since tf101 however something went realy wrong with ICS on both devices , cant ignore that.
conclusion: for a good price i would buy it. buy with s/n c4 or higher.
keep calm and see what asus is offering in the future. their new devices is still kinda like in beta mode, endless problems waiting to be fixed. im not even sure nexus 7 is safe to use. best is hold ur horses and see what others review abt it.
the TF700T is supposed to come out next month at $499, which is what the prime sells for new right now. so I would keep this in mind when buying a used prime...
I have had my Prime since December and it has been fine. However right now I would recommend waiting until Mid-July and buying the TF Infinity. It will start at the same base price ($500) has a better screen and a plastic panel that should fix any wifi/gps problems people have had with the Prime. Plus it is compatible with practically all TF-Prime accessories including the keyboard dock.
Right now that is likely to be the best choice for a 10" Android tablet.
good read
If money isn't an concern, I would get a prime.
I as well moved from the IPAD. It's great for what I use it for, however my wife uses it as well.
I wanted her to have her own and so I started the search for another tablet that would suit the needs I have.
After roughly three months of research it came down to two things.
Either buying a Transformer Prime or TF300. Or waiting for the TF700 to hit in July.
Personally I've seen hi-res screens, unless your a graphics designer and your going to do EXTREME graphics rendering and modeling
(which at that point you should be using a PC or MAC desktop - my thoughts that is. )
then getting the Prime is the way to go. I got mine a few days ago, and it's done everything my IPad can do + some, no issues with Wifi - havent tested the GPS because I don't need it for that.
I've used several SD cards and again no issues what so ever.
The ONLY thing I will say in making your decision, is always get the bigger storage size, I have the 64gb and It's EXACTLY what I want / need!
nyijedi said:
As a Prime owner, my advice is to stay far away from anything Asus. It's becoming clear to me they can't fix the issues in this device. I wish I never bought mine.
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i second this... i have had it with Asus. i was one of the first one to get Prime cause i love android. but Asus's ability to integrate the software is driving me crazy. and not to mention how they handled GPS issue... me personally are jumping ship back to ipad..... at least i won't get ANR everything 10mins.....
I'm also happy with the prime so far. My only concern about is that after months of daily using I really see a big advantage in the 7 inch form factor in many use cases. There was a great video interview with Matias Duarte on the verge about the design of the nexus 7 tablet two days ago or so and it nailed it on the head. So my next tablet will be the Nexus one, but I'll keep the prime as well.
I'm getting my first tablet but am at a loss how to decide? On the one hand, all critics (Cnet, PcMag, Wired, Engadget, Laptop magazine, ect...) seem to universally agree the Ipad-4 is best hands-down, no question in terms of overall quality as a tablet. Then I compared the Asus with the other 2, and was almost certain I preferred the Asus- some critics even preferred it over the Nexus 10 and expandable memory is HUGE (HD movies on 16 or even 32gb non-memory expandable device is unacceptable in this day and age). Or so it seemed. Though critics like the Asus I've read so many user-reviews about screen-bleeding and a sluggish OS, in spite of its quad-core processor Asus almost seems scary in light of the endless complaints. Now it's back down to Nexus10 vs Ipad and Ipad still seems to be better for gaming with its GPU, its app marketplace is also phenomenal.Thoughts?
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I'm getting my first tablet but am at a loss how to decide? On the one hand, all critics (Cnet, PcMag, Wired, Engadget, Laptop magazine, ect...) seem to universally agree the Ipad-4 is best hands-down, no question in terms of overall quality as a tablet. Then I compared the Asus with the other 2, and was almost certain I preferred the Asus- some critics even preferred it over the Nexus 10 and expandable memory is HUGE (HD movies on 16 or even 32gb non-memory expandable device is unacceptable in this day and age). Or so it seemed. Though critics like the Asus I've read so many user-reviews about screen-bleeding and a sluggish OS, in spite of its quad-core processor Asus almost seems scary in light of the endless complaints. Now it's back down to Nexus10 vs Ipad and Ipad still seems to be better for gaming with its GPU, its app marketplace is also phenomenal.Thoughts?
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You can't go wrong with the nexus 10. It has by far the fastest cpu of the bunch and its storage is lightning fast. More than 5 times faster than the asus. Over 100MB/s read speed. Not to mention its a nexus device and will be updated for years to come.
I think it comes down to your preference. Do you want to be tied to Apple's ecosystem? Are you okay with waiting on jailbreaks to iOS to get root?
I have the nexus 10 and love it. I used to have an iPhone and hated I could not customize it. My cousin had an ipad3 but I prefer the nexus 10.
I bought my mom a tf300 and it is a good tablet if you install the custom checkrom ROM.
In the future I plan to get an otg cable for external SD card option. I have a 16gb nexus 10 and it suits me well.
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I was in the same situation as you about one week ago. I sold my Asus Transformer Prime (TF201) a few days before XMas anticipating purchasing the Infinity.
I ended up with a Nexus 10 and couldn't be happier.
For me it came down to having to unlock the bootloader in order to ROM/Kernal the tablet; without having a way to relock it back. The expandable storage was the biggest plus for me, along with the keyboard dock I would have bought to go along with it. But having to void my warranty just to get a somewhat smooth $500 tablet didn't make me too happy. Now, once unlocked and running Paranoidandroid/CM10 on probably KTs kernal it's a whole new beast.
The Nexus 10 was smooth right of the box, and even better once unlocked and running PA2.99/KTManta kernal. It absolutely flies. It looks better than expected, has better sound than expected, and hasn't had a hiccup yet. Now, no expandable memory just means I'm going to be using my OTG cable + external 2tb hd's a lot more, but not a big deal to me. I also got my Nexus from Walmart, the postercompany of being able to return/exchange anything, so that made my decision quite a bit easier as well.
The Infinity is plagued with I/O problems along with a whole slew of other hiccups that leave a bad taste in your mouth. As much I had anticipated gett the Infinity for the last couple of months, I haven't had a second thought about it since I've had the N10 in my hand.
Depends on what you are looking to do with it. If you are a student/ business oriented and need media consumption as well, the infinity if by far the best. Great form factor, keyboard with battery, really fast since the updates and overall great support from asus. Just take a look around these boards and you will see the N10 also has its problem. Poor battery, no external storage, sluggishness during browsing, lag during gaming and media playback, very poor support from samsung and google in terms of warranty support (look at all the articles popping up about Samsung basically ignoring the N10). If you look at the comparison sites most of them that ACTUALLY compare the two say that the infinity is much better. Good luck to ya man!
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If you play HD games, get the iPad 4, you cant go wrong with that
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Depends on what you are looking to do with it. If you are a student/ business oriented and need media consumption as well, the infinity if by far the best. Great form factor, keyboard with battery, really fast since the updates and overall great support from asus. Just take a look around these boards and you will see the N10 also has its problem. Poor battery, no external storage, sluggishness during browsing, lag during gaming and media playback, very poor support from samsung and google in terms of warranty support (look at all the articles popping up about Samsung basically ignoring the N10). If you look at the comparison sites most of them that ACTUALLY compare the two say that the infinity is much better. Good luck to ya man!
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Keep kidding yourself! Funny how you are in our forums trying to reassure your purchase. The Keyboard attachment accessory is the only thing going for the Transformer series, too bad most of us would just rather use swype or Android 4.2's default keyboard. Infinity will never get updates faster than the Nexus line (did you even get 4.2 officially yet?), thats just fact, "Poor Battery" and sluggishness/lag is more often than not- User error. None of those issues here with mine. Same issues could be said for the 700 and as a previous owner of both the 201 and the 700 there is no way I could EVER recommend either of those tablets over the N10. It's funny the same complaints you make about our tablet just looking over on your boards -- same things
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Keep kidding yourself! Funny how you are in our forums trying to reassure your purchase. The Keyboard attachment accessory is the only thing going for the Transformer series, too bad most of us would just rather use swype or Android 4.2's default keyboard. Infinity will never get updates faster than the Nexus line (did you even get 4.2 officially yet?), thats just fact, "Poor Battery" and sluggishness/lag is more often than not- User error. None of those issues here with mine. Same issues could be said for the 700 and as a previous owner of both the 201 and the 700 there is no way I could EVER recommend either of those tablets over the N10. It's funny the same complaints you make about our tablet just looking over on your boards -- same things
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Lol all your doing is confirming my point that both tablets have their problemsand not even the N10 as you so eloquently put it, is without its own problems. Like i asked the op it depends on what he is doing. I could never recommend the N10 for a school or as a business device. The battery life would be horrible and i would not have the external storage to quickly save documents and transfer between devices.Not to mention the lack of the dedicated keyboard. To each their own my friend. Happy your happy with the N10, but i could never go back to it ( mentioned in previous threads that i was one of the first to get an N10 and gave it away to my sister ...) I love my infinity. Its super fast, looks amazing and overall performs its tasks above and beyond what i expect.
Oh and by the way to your point on asus not getting updates as fast as the nexus line....take a look at the galaxy nexus. If experiencing the update a whole 3 weeks before me makes you happy and puts you to sleep at night, by all mean enjoy that. I will take my 3 weeks release plus hardware asus support over getting the updates and having to deal with samsung hardware support any day. Go ahead and try to get the N10 repaired and see what kind of loop holes you have to jump through lol.
Nexus 10 if u want a great stock experience and did not want to void your warrenty. Samsung provides a good hardware support and in case things go wrong the warrenty claims are much easier than in case of other companies. Samsung also has one type of hardware faults which haunts their devices and comes to nitice easily. Third samsung devices are with simple plain designs. Performance wise N10 sits at the top of all android devices.
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Lol all your doing is confirming my point that both tablets have their problemsand not even the N10 as you so eloquently put it, is without its own problems. Like i asked the op it depends on what he is doing. I could never recommend the N10 for a school or as a business device. The battery life would be horrible and i would not have the external storage to quickly save documents and transfer between devices.Not to mention the lack of the dedicated keyboard. To each their own my friend. Happy your happy with the N10, but i could never go back to it ( mentioned in previous threads that i was one of the first to get an N10 and gave it away to my sister ...) I love my infinity. Its super fast, looks amazing and overall performs its tasks above and beyond what i expect.
Oh and by the way to your point on asus not getting updates as fast as the nexus line....take a look at the galaxy nexus. If experiencing the update a whole 3 weeks before me makes you happy and puts you to sleep at night, by all mean enjoy that. I will take my 3 weeks release plus hardware asus support over getting the updates and having to deal with samsung hardware support any day. Go ahead and try to get the N10 repaired and see what kind of loop holes you have to jump through lol.
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Again "Poor Battery Life" seems to be unique point for users, not an issue here because I keep track of what apps I have running. I have no problem going for days without charging on normal operation. Then again, I do not sit for hours at a time in front of my tablet. There is nothing wrong with this device as a school device, business I could even say the same 201/700 is even worse performance wise. Just because you have a detachable keyboard accessory doesn't outweigh all the other problems with the Asus, it sure wasn't enough to keep me from taking the device back. Asus support as well- hope you never need it. It took having weeks of having to constantly get a hold of Gary Key and Hai Trat (do you even know who they are? Have a look) on here to have an issue resolved since there policy on the phone is take your information and never call you back- Like you said tho to each his own.. if you enjoy owning an underperforming tablet, in the same price range- that's all you :highfive:
IMO, BT Keyboard also works with N10. BT keyboard sounds a lot better because it is probably cheaper and can be used on other devices too not like the ASUS dock (if you buy a new tablet then you are screwed).
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Again "Poor Battery Life" seems to be unique point for users, not an issue here because I keep track of what apps I have running. I have no problem going for days without charging on normal operation. Then again, I do not sit for hours at a time in front of my tablet. There is nothing wrong with this device as a school device, business I could even say the same 201/700 is even worse performance wise. Just because you have a detachable keyboard accessory doesn't outweigh all the other problems with the Asus, it sure wasn't enough to keep me from taking the device back. Asus support as well- hope you never need it. It took having weeks of having to constantly get a hold of Gary Key and Hai Trat (do you even know who they are? Have a look) on here to have an issue resolved since there policy on the phone is take your information and never call you back- Like you said tho to each his own.. if you enjoy owning an underperforming tablet, in the same price range- that's all you :highfive:
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If you say you dont sit in front of your tablet for hours on end....then why would you recommend it as a school or business device...which requires to sit in front of it for hours? Im confused on your logic there....And gary key is the forum head for asus who keeps up to date on updates and any issues we might have. Why is that relevant? Are you trying to insult my intelligence? Im simply stating my opinion to the OP. Whats wrong with man? You do know its ok for someone to disagree with you right? lol calm down... If you like your N10 then thats great for you. I personally dont like it as a student speaking and would not recommend it...so again...calm down lol its ok...
pierrekid said:
If you say you dont sit in front of your tablet for hours on end....then why would you recommend it as a school or business device...which requires to sit in front of it for hours? Im confused on your logic there....And gary key is the forum head for asus who keeps up to date on updates and any issues we might have. Why is that relevant? Are you trying to insult my intelligence? Im simply stating my opinion to the OP. Whats wrong with man? You do know its ok for someone to disagree with you right? lol
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You insulted your own intelligence when you suggested that Asus' support is any better than Samsung's. The link is there for you to read thru plenty of disappointed people and if you'd like I could probably link at least 5 others complaining of nightmares with the RMA system. Of course it's ok to disagree, why do you think I replied to your post in the first place? Nothing to calm down about, sorry if you can't take valid counterpoints to your argument.
kaspar737 said:
IMO, BT Keyboard also works with N10. BT keyboard sounds a lot better because it is probably cheaper and can be used on other devices too not like the ASUS dock (if you buy a new tablet then you are screwed).
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Very true, but the kicker is that the asus keyboard has an extra battery, usb out and a full SD card slot. So it does offer alot more than a simple BT keyboard.
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You insulted your own intelligence when you suggested that Asus' support is any better than Samsung's. The link is there for you to read thru plenty of disappointed people and if you'd like I could probably link at least 5 others complaining of nightmares with the RMA system. Of course it's ok to disagree, why do you think I replied to your post in the first place?
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http://phandroid.com/2012/12/27/samsung-nexus-10-repair/
Check the link and the comments. Enough said. Next topic cause im done talking to you. And for reference, why don't you read the whole article and the comments from N10 owners before you respond stupidly.
pierrekid said:
http://phandroid.com/2012/12/27/samsung-nexus-10-repair/
Check the link and the comment. Enough said. Next topic cause im done talking to you.
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And? Congrats, we've both posted links to articles with people complaining about support. Want a cookie?
***I can edit posts too to call names. How old are you, 12? Again theres more than enough on both sides to even claim one is better than the other theres no point
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And? Congrats, we've both posted links to articles with people complaining about support. Want a cookie?
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Lmao no use arguing with you , clearly your on here to flame and im not gonna turn the OP's thread into a flame war. You win lmao take your prize...absolutely nothing
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Jujubeanz said:
I'm getting my first tablet but am at a loss how to decide? On the one hand, all critics (Cnet, PcMag, Wired, Engadget, Laptop magazine, ect...) seem to universally agree the Ipad-4 is best hands-down, no question in terms of overall quality as a tablet. Then I compared the Asus with the other 2, and was almost certain I preferred the Asus- some critics even preferred it over the Nexus 10 and expandable memory is HUGE (HD movies on 16 or even 32gb non-memory expandable device is unacceptable in this day and age). Or so it seemed. Though critics like the Asus I've read so many user-reviews about screen-bleeding and a sluggish OS, in spite of its quad-core processor Asus almost seems scary in light of the endless complaints. Now it's back down to Nexus10 vs Ipad and Ipad still seems to be better for gaming with its GPU, its app marketplace is also phenomenal.Thoughts?
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Also im not a huge Apple fan, nor are most people on here, but if your just looking for the simplest functioning device out there, the ipad might be your best bet. However you will be paying a premium for their hardware.
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Lmao no use arguing with you , clearly your on here to flame and im not gonna turn the OP's thread into a flame war. You win lmao take your prize...absolutely nothing
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Also im not a huge Apple fan, nor are most people on here, but if your just looking for the simplest functioning device out there, the ipad might be your best bet. However you will be paying a premium for their hardware.
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Not flaming you at all. Sorry you are taking it to heart all of your tablets negatives. It's a good thing I didn't hurt your feelings in the other infinity thread the other night jeez
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Not flaming you at all. Sorry you are taking it to heart all of your tablets negatives. It's a good thing I didn't hurt your feelings in the other infinity thread the other night jeez
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Lol again...enjoy your prize
pierrekid said:
Depends on what you are looking to do with it. If you are a student/ business oriented and need media consumption as well, the infinity if by far the best. Great form factor, keyboard with battery, really fast since the updates and overall great support from asus. Just take a look around these boards and you will see the N10 also has its problem. Poor battery, no external storage, sluggishness during browsing, lag during gaming and media playback, very poor support from samsung and google in terms of warranty support (look at all the articles popping up about Samsung basically ignoring the N10). If you look at the comparison sites most of them that ACTUALLY compare the two say that the infinity is much better. Good luck to ya man!
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Not to jump on the bandwagon, but only part of that I can agree with is the lack of external store.
Especially when comparing to Asus; the company that released the Infinity mere months after the slew of issues that plagued their newly released Transformer Prime TF201. Of anyone, Best Buy did the best to their customers by offering to exchange their <2mo old top of the line table with terrible wifi performance, little to no GPS functionality whatsoever (until the later released GPS Extension Kit), complete bluetooth dropout when streaming, an factory unlock program that doesn't unlock about half the Primes it's tried on for some reason, a one-two month wait time on sending it back to Asus for a RMA on the above issues. No, I didn't go through any of that whatsoever when I had my Prime over the course of 3 months.
In response to Gary; he, along with Tien, were brought on to handle the bad press arising from their tablet issues. I dealt with Tien in order to get my Prime RMA'd. For some reason his email wouldn't accept or send anything to my g-mail account, so we used the PM on xda to communicate. At best I would get responses in a few days, other times couple of weeks.
After all that, I was still super stoked to get my Asus Infinity after my Prime sold. Then I realized that in order to get a tablet that isn't laggy, relentlessly stuttering and constantly having hangups, I would have to void my warranty whatsoever, with no way back. And in the off chance the (Asus supplied) unlock tool didn't work, I would have to deal with un-bricking it to try again. Go try to play with one in Best Buy and LMK how long it takes for you to hate it. You can't type "amazon.com" in the browser open page without it lagging.
Don't get me wrong, the Transformer is super nice; it's just riddled with a ****ton of crappy I/O performance issues and lack of warranty from day one. The N10 works with SD cards mounted via OTG cable, so you can use whatever external storage you want (SD Cards, USB HD's, etc); and if anything goes wrong you can relock/unroot and return it for repairs. I'm running ParanoidAndroid+KTManta kernal, but even on the stock AOSP setup everything just works.
Also, most if not all reviews of two point toward the Nexus.
http://www.android.gs/google-nexus-...ote-10-1-vs-asus-transformer-infinity-tf700t/
http://sortable.com/tablets/Google-Nexus-10-vs-Asus-Transformer-Infinity
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Of anyone, Best Buy did the best to their customers by offering to exchange their <2mo old top of the line table with terrible wifi performance
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The exchanges they were doing was all under the table according to their return policy, it was not something Best Buy officially endorsed. That was how I got my 700, I exchanged the 201 for it there.