I just got my GT 7.0 Plus for Christmas and absolutely love it. I really like the compact 7" design and it will fit my needs perfectly. Now that my wife has played with it, she wants one too, but bigger. She is considering the 8.9" or 10". Since they are both the same price right now, she is leaning towards the 10".
What are the differences between the 3 tabs? From what I can tell the 10.1 and 8.9 are a little older and have Android 3.1 while my 7.0+ has 3.2. How much difference is there in the 2 OS versions?
I also see that my 7.0+ has the Samsung Exynos™ 2x1.2GHz processor. What is in the 8.9 and 10.1? Is it dual core?
Any other differences worth mentioning?
Keep in mind this is for my wife and she will not be rooting or modding it... She just needs something that is stable and just works.
I realise that this is a Gtab forum and I might possible get flamed for this, but here I go anyway
If your wife wants something that will be stable and will just work, without any tinkering or rooting or anything, and if she wants the tablet mostly for watching video, surfing the net, checking mail, playing some games etc. I'd recommend an iPad over the Gtab.
Why?
I'm absolutely in love with my Galaxy Tab, but I took the time to learn about it and tweak it. Hell, I scout these forums whenever I can to find some new tricks or tweaks. After it's tweaked, I'd never change it for an iPad, but if you're staying at stock, right now iPad is much smoother and overall a much better user experience - this may change in a few months when the official ICS comes out, but we can't be sure about that yet.
Why is she so averse against moding or rooting it? It's easy to learn and it can make the tab a whole different experience then remaining at official stock. Even if you don't want the "unstable" custom ROM (I'm writing in parenthesis since I haven't seen an unstable custom ROM here yet), you could go for a newer version of stock ROMs, or for CM9 when it comes out, those will most probably be as stable as the official stock, but still be faster/better then the one you get from Samsung if you wait for the official update.
There is practically no danger in rooting and moding your tablet, if you read the instructions and don't mess with stuff you don't understand, and there are many good guides around. And if you don't like it, you can still return everything back to the way it was through backups, no harm done.
As for the difference between devices, there are many reviews explaining just that around, google them
Heres one for technical specs, detailing differences between different tabs and galaxy note: http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-vs-8-9-vs-7-inch
[Edit] You can also move the list items around or add extra items to the comparison list in the link, if you want to compare your 8.9 to any other devices.
She is not averse to modding or rooting, but if it's not a stable release it causes more problems for me. She got her Infuse 4G right after it came out and I flashed a couple of not so stable roms and she hated them. It's fine now since the talented devs have released new stuff, but I have my own tablet and droid phone to keep running smooth, so I don't want to have to worry about hers too. As long as the stock rom will make her happy, I will leave it at that. But if there are roms that would make it better, she won't mind me modding it, so long as they are stable roms (which sounds like that won't be an issue).
One of the things she liked about mine was the screen shot button. I assume that's also there on the 8.9 and 10.1?
And the iPad is out. I absolutely hate Apple products (mostly due to iTunes) and will never own another one. We both had iPhones and neither one of us would ever go back. I have her trained to hate Apple as well.
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I have her trained to hate Apple as well.
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Haha, I have the feeling that we'd get along well
If the only problem keeping her from modding is stable releases, then there's no problem at all .
Yes, the screenshot button is part of HC's standard and every ROM I've seen till now has it (heard there is a way to disable it though, but I like it there ).
Are you thinking about the Wi-Fi only (7510) or about the 3G (7500) tablet? The 7500 is a bit more limited when it comes to different ROMs, as there are only 3 floating around right now, CM9 is currently being made for 7510 etc.
The 3G roms are Overcome, Ganbarou and BinDroid. I've tried BinDroid and Overcome (stayed on Overcome because the theme on BinDroid started to seem a bit too intrusive for my tasted after a few days) and they were both really stable. I don't think I've ever had any problems with any of them (I might have gotten a FC here and there, but nothing that I'd remember, nothing in the last week or so, and definitely nothing I couldn't have gotten on stock ROM).
For 7510, everyone recommends Task650's Galaxy Task, but I can't speak from personal experience as I need my tabs 3G connection. Some are saying that v8 is better then v9 or v10, but you should look in that thread or ask someone else to make sure.
As for the kernel, Pershoot's OC kernel is the undisputed champion - it allows you to OC, push extra modules (NTFS for instance) and stuff like that.
The Overcome experience also has a really nice guide to follow if you want to make sure you don't do something wrong (though it sounds like you know what you're doing), or if you want your wife to learn how to flash her tablet herself
I'll be getting the WiFi version only. She has an AT&T 4G phone and I have a Verizon 4GLTE phone and both have tethering enabled. So between the two of us, we almost always have a fast connection when away from WiFi. It sounds like either of the larger tablets would be a good fit for her. We might go to BB this evening so she can play with both before I order one.
The Task650 Rom looks pretty nice. Might have to flash that one for her to try.
Thanks for all the help guys!
10.1 and 8.9 are similar
Its just about the size
I have a 10.1 stock with ADWlauncher Ex and everything is smooth and stable.
A good point to consider would also be the available ROMs/tweaks/developers/accessories. I myself like the big screen, so I wouldn't go for the 8.9, even though that one is easier to handle with one hand only (you can actually hold it on one side, while I usually hold my tab in the middle with one hand, similar to how I would hold an open book).
Some places also offer testing devices, so maybe you could get one of those for a few days to see which one suits your needs better?
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10.1 and 8.9 are similar
Its just about the size
I have a 10.1 stock with ADWlauncher Ex and everything is smooth and stable.
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I think later on will be also with 7.7.. CMIIW..
I have the wifi tab, but after rooting and installing Task with the pershoot kernel, I also added the adhoc tethering hack and can now use my tab with my phone....
Best of both worlds without another data plan issue.
I went ahead and ordered the 10.1, should be here this week. And I have wifi tethering enabled on both of our phones, so the wifi version works just fine. Thanks for all the input!
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I went ahead and ordered the 10.1, should be here this week. And I have wifi tethering enabled on both of our phones, so the wifi version works just fine. Thanks for all the input!
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Awesome and a great choice. I've tried both In Paris V5 and GalaxyTask V10 on my GTab (2nd one mind you...sold my 1st one like an idiot and it was a 32 gig but now I'm back with a 16gig)
I've been looking for a good tab to get the gf around vday and I keep coming back to wanting to get her the Gtab.
Numerous stable roms, good support, lots of accessories, and ICS/CM9 right around the corner.
I think you and your wife will be very happy with it. Either of Galaxy/Phantom's ROMs are about as stable as you can get, just depends on if you want 3.1 or 3.2. With 3.2 Galaxytask you can flash b00sted's ICS theme, which is a very nice simplistic theme.
ETA: As for cases, I used the Gumdrop cases. Otterbox doesn't make any for the 10.1 and have no plans to, (which to me is stupid) but with that said, my Gumdrop cases have been on par or better than any Otterbox defender cases I have tried for other gadgets. Like the Defender cases, they do add a bit of size and weight but honestly I feel so much more confident in the robust nature of the tab with their cases on. Now if I could just find a car dock that would work with the case.
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OK, I'm a noob to tablets...just bought a SGT 10.1 a week ago. That said, I have a question about future ROMs for our tabs.
So, ICS is just around the corner...and so are future custom ROMs. Here's the question: Since people feel that ROMs like Task 10 (and others) already make our SGT 10.1s perform pretty fast...what changes can we expect that will actually make our experience better on the same device?
I must admit, I probably have pretty low expectations as my stock tab already performs pretty well for me. I want to try the Task 10 ROM to see how much better my tab can perform, though. I've just downloaded ADW to customize my whole device which to me is pretty cool in itself...but it got me to wondering what I should expect from ICS and the likes of CM9 to make things even better?
While I work in the tech world, I'm now a little removed from being the techie I once was. So, perhaps I'm just old and appreciative of what I have now comparing to what I had yesterday? Where do we go from here on the current h/w in our SGT 10.1?
Cheers!
So I took the plunge and bought my self a Gtab, not too keen on blowing ridiculous amounts of money on tech, so for the specs and price tag the Gtab seemed to be the best bet.
Now I am fairly comfortable flashing Roms, I just would like some input from the community.
So whats the most functional and stable rom available currently?
CM7 has always been my go to first base rom for pretty much any phone I have flashed, but I dont quite like it on my Nook Color, its fairly buggy, but I blame the nook not CM7
but Hardware Acceleration sounds nice, and I know that none of the Comb roms have it, but neither do the GB Roms either right?
Looks like Clemsyns V8 is probably the best 2.2 rom out, but how is it in terms of functionality and compatibility with newer 3d games and other applications?
any other input would be greatly appreciated, I just figured I ask before I go on a flash spree, because it usually takes me a couple weeks of flashing this and flashing that before I settle on a rom and I didnt really want to drag this out that long. I just wanna flash, and use until ICS Stable Rom is released.
FrankenTab and Beastly ROMs are FroYo based and should have hardware acceleration, camera and video support. Plus, they are actively being updated. They aren't Honeycomb, and I still prefer VeganTAB 7.1 (even without hardware acceleration), but the FroYo ROMs will pretty much have everything working until a stable ICS version hits.
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I've tried most of them at some point I guess it matters what you are willing to sacrifice. I love the look and feel of Flashback but no hardware acceleration, no camera, more ram used by the system ... (all Honeycomb roms are like that).
CM7 works great and I keep one gtab on it. MX Player has Tegra 2 software acceleration for video and most games and apps work. Has been very stable for 4 months, not buggy at all and looks great.
My other gtablet has landed on Beasty-Clemsyn. It is a Froyo rom, very stable and very fast with full hardware acceleration. I ended up here because everything just works like it is supposed to. Installed the new market, flashplayer, new version of VTL launcher and I really like it. It will hold me over till an ICS rom comes out.
FrankenTab and Beastly
I've been switching between FrankenTab and Beastly myself.
I think FrankenTab looks nicer overall but I've run across less issues with the Beastly rom and so I've settled with that until ICS is released for our G Tab.
Let us know which roms you try and your experience with them.
I am pleased that my FrankenTAB ROM has found its way over to XDA.
I would love to hear any issues users are having since we are actively developing this ROM (currently working on v1.0.2), but I cant help over here yet with an official support thread. If anyone needs help, you can PM me here, or google FrankenTAB and look for the original and most active thread for it on the site that starts with an "S".
Franken Tab is a great rom, I also went through allot of flashing trying different roms, soon the ICS ROM will be around and I am using the pre-alpha so what ever you decide set up for 1.2Bl and the latest CWM touch version. its coming n its cool.
Yup FrankenTab is the first rom I have flashed on this thing, and I am liking it so far.
-great wifi integrity
-fast as hell
-and the included VTL launcher is nice too.
plus having the ability speak with the Dev directly about suggestions and bugs is very nice as well.
If you want Flash to work well are you limited to 2.2 ROMs?
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Flash works fine in 2.2 and 2.3 based ROMs. I have it working just fine in VeganTab GE 7.1.
From what I understand, it works (with caveats and quirks) in Honeycomb, and only with certain versions of Flash.
Sadly after messing with Franken and Beastly, I found my self at CM7s door.
Franken had me really really excited at first, it was fast, it was responsive, I only had it set at 1.33ghz, but there were a few issues with both that I found a bit to unstable for my taste.
Will see how CM7 holds me over.
I love 1.09 frankentab. It performs better then anything I have tried but is way behind brilliant corners in bench mark tests. I can't figure that out because it's seems 5 times faster in real life.
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Hello,
I have had my Gtablet for about a year, and I have tried many roms.
FY,GB,HC,ICS,etc. Various incarnations. (Well, only 1 ICS)
From my understanding, Viewsonic, like many companies,
uses various suppliers for components, so the individual results with roms will vary.
And the physical build may vary. eg/ Volume (+) is actually (-)
(this is a reported build difference that my tablet has)
I seem to come back to Froyo roms for many reasons. Base platform OS.
Hardware acceleration. Stability. Etc.
Personally, I haven't found a newer gen rom that works as well as Froyo.
As stated on this and other sites, Be sure you follow the recomended
procedures for pre and post install. usually posted in the OP.
Really get to know and understand NVflash.
I always come back to the C+C rom final version. Beasty, although nice,
wouldn't do what C+C does for me.
I use my tablet as much, if not more than I use my PC, and I can run Splashtop
to access my pc, which is cool.
I do find certain games or apps that wont work, but, I am patient.
No problems with google apps.
It really comes down to researching, and testing, and finding out
the best rom for you and your tablet.
After all, this support, is almost free. Kudos to the devs.
J.
sorry. this is on another post. hope that is ok.
I've been on FrankenTAB 1.0.9 for two weeks or so and so far one of the best Froyo ROM's I've tried. I flashed quite a few ROM's for the 1.2BL but this one seems to work the best for me at the moment.
I just put the ICS rom on my gtab, and it looks great. Installing it wasn't that hard, I did have to switch bootloaders to 1.2. The only issue is I can't get my external SD card to work. I love using chrome.
In ICS, the external sd card is not named the way it is in other ICS distributions...look for /microsd folder instead of /emmc or /sdcard/external_sd like you may be used to.
If anyone is already on BL 1.2, ICS is definitely worth installing. The only two things that I've found that do not work are the camera and microphone but for me both are non-issues.
Hello ive been using my gtab with tnt rom and it runs really good
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i will buy HP TP and i want to know what is the best ICS ROM with mos of things is working ??
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i will buy HP TP and i want to know what is the best ICS ROM with mos of things is working ??
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Should I wear my black shoes today or the gray ones?
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Should I wear my black shoes today or the gray ones?
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Pink.
The CM9 nightlies are working great for me
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AOKP has been running great for me.
Classic Nerd and CherryKang working great here.
This is liking who has the best Pizza.. Everyone has a preference.
Since these are APLHA, each will have a plus and minis to them.
CM9 Alpha 2 has nightlies, so they are doing this and that, and it might break CM or not. So staying up to date CM is the way to go.
ClassicNerd and AOKP are also work in progress setting out on updates that are as stable as can be, but, nothing always works perfect. Its ALPHA's per se
I would load in CM first since it all started with them. Test it and if seems stable enough, save it using CWM. Then start checking the CN AOKP Cherries and all..
This is what is nice, you can save anything and test it.. If you LIKE IT, stick with it..
I use both CM9 A2 on my TP and CN on wifes.. No problem with either than no Netflix on CN..But there is always a work around..
My 2 cents.
I've tired just about all of them. While most worked I found most also had one problem or another at least for me. For example some didn't support my HP Bluetooth keyboard properly. IE when using the keyboard the soft-keyboard also poped up and all the keys on the physical keyboard didn't work properly. Others had WiFi issues. Despite connecting to the same WiFi hot spots some ROM's couldn't reliably make a connection while others worked 100% of the time.
In the end I'm using the CM9 nightly since it at a least for me has no issues and everything I use works great, good WiFi, Bluetooth keyboard etc.
should I buy a touchpad if I intend to use android?
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should I buy a touchpad if I intend to use android?
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nope. there's numerous android tablet available in the market. out of the box ready to use.
well if they perform the same, I dont mind to tinker a bit with it. and its cheaper too
cm9 works good
i waited until CM9 A2
its solid, but not perfect (camera not working)
I'm not doing nightlies because there have been a couple problems and don't want to risk bricking anything
ultimately, it is all what you like better, several options.
i'm waiting for beta now
(and btw thank you to those involved in dev work!)
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well if they perform the same, I dont mind to tinker a bit with it. and its cheaper too
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still no. In a month or two, ASUS will be releasing a Google tablet that will likely be better spec'd for less than you can buy a touchpad for today. It will in all likelyhood see just as much love as the touchpad, if not more so due to availability.
hmm.. I could get a used touchpad for $150
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but the Asus Tegra3 tablet will be 7'' wich is as close to my phone than to my TP...
7 inch is too small for a Tablet IMO, especially with all the new phones that have a screen size of 4.3''++
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I'm like you, I kind of like tinkering. If I wanted a phone/tablet that worked out of the box, I would get an apple (don't hate, you know what I say is true). But I like tinkering, trying new ROMS, and I'm kind of a flashoholic. So I bought the touchpad for 160. Tell me where else you can get this kind of hardware for that price?
I prefer Classicnerd, but right now it doesn't support Netflix and YT HD, so I am on CM9 official nightly. Right now its the most up to date from out there with the new ICS 4.0.4 merge just released from Google. Its sleek fast and right on.
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I have a Touchpad and a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (got it refurb'd). Performance wise, they are very similar (both on ICS). The touchpad actually benchmarks a little bit higher than the GTab.
I'm running AOKP milestone 4 CM9 on both tablets, and I can tell you the TP runs ICS silky smooth. Neither one has a working camera in ICS, but I don't use it, so it's not a bother to me. The TP does tend to have more bugs (wifi for some), and mine had the sleep of death until I disabled the lock screen, and installed a different kernel (don't know which one fixed it, lol).
The G-Tab is a bit nicer, lighter, thinner, and has a better/sharper screen. But for the price, the Touchpad really can't be beat.
why? The touchpad is great for the price! If you can find a cheap one you've struck gold. Look, if you don't like/ want to flash roms get an android tablet. Me, im a flashaholic I like to flash the lasted of everything. Its an addiction I need to stop
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Will it be MIUI, Cyanogenmod or something else? Share your desires and maybe devs will listen
Definately MIUI.
Using it on my EVO 3D atm, and I loooooove it!
Definitely Cognition Rom
Will be happy to see custom ROMs, but as long as they incorporate the awesome samsung features
I am only looking to put ROMs on this phone that are proven stable - and keep the features of the SGSIII intact. I don't want a phone that needs this workaround to get a feature to work.
I hope BootManager PRO works for this phone because I do like to keep several ROMs at hand at once. I really love the ICS blues and I have seen some amazing things evolve from a stock AOSP 4.0.X ROM over at the GNex forums. So we just need to wait and be amazed with the features that will be introduced to the world of Android via this phone's development section
Kernels on the other hand - this is where I am mostly concerned. We know pretty much NOTHING about the way a quad core kernel should be dealt with... These will be the main subject of my attention as we get into early development stages.
We shall see what some of our amazing developers who have proven they make kernels their bi***es can do with a new kernel. I am also interested in the kernel that Samsung has developed for it and how exactly this works in our favor here at XDA.
The main point is while most ROMs can be considered close... Kernels will be quite different and will be everyone's main focus - making our quad core beasts run with optimal battery life!
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I'd like to see a CM9 hybrid\tablet mode rom with per-app dpi capabilities that comes with a free high class escort.
I will use any "rooted" rom that is stable enough .... so far we don´t know is it possible to change bootloader.
Cyanogenmod of course
Probably..... stock rom, bloatware removed (will keep all the good stuff), custom kernel and custom themes
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CheckRom 100% the most popular and best ever ROM for the SGSII no other ROM comes close, i still use it and have used nothing else for a long time, SGSII ICS ROM's still nowhere near as good as CheckRom although i hear CheckRom ICS will be landing shortly for the SGSII although ill be selling my phone and getting the Galaxy S3
Slim ICS, as don't see much need for all the extra stuff apart from eye tracking to keep the screen on, S-Voice functionality goes in one ear and out the other, NFC not for me, Social tagging can leave me alone, shame the screen is sub standard to the SGS2.
Still loving my SGS 1 but am due an upgrade so may as well get this, hopefully the GPS is not as ****e as the SGS is. ended up buying an iPhone 3GS just to use with TomTom.
Now if you could give me TomTom on the SGS3 then you'd be talking.
Definitely checkrom with a new kitchen. And if we can get a siyah kernel then its over!!!!!!!!
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Been an owner of SGP 621 for almost 4 years now. Device still runs good though battery has been noticeably not as good already. I just want your thoughts about your preference if whether you use stock or custom rom as daily driver. Your thoughts about the battery life and smoothness of either and the pros and cons you found out. Are you planning to change tablets soon?
I had it for some years now, still like it. Looked around to see what options are out there, but the Android market for tablet are not very big unfortunately. I'm not very fond of huge TV sized phones (always used compact versions), so a tablet is nice to have to. I bought a Lenovo Tab4 for my mom, and actually like it when I was configuring it. Maybe it will be the next one when my Xperia Tab's life runs out.
Don't think I have noticed any huge drop on battery life, recharge it a couple of times a week at most. Think I get a fair amount of hours from it, bit hard to tell depending how I use it. But for most times I get about 2-4 days. I have used a couple of custom roms on it, but had some trouble with the WiFi connection just dropped on those, so I'm on the latest firmware (rooted and debloated 6.0 which feels a bit old, but works). Maybe I'll try another round with some roms in a while.
Do you feel laggy using it as stock right now? Are you attracted to upgrade to ipad mini?
Always modded stock! I've just tried AICP Oreo on my Z3TC and hated it so just about to reflash 291. Custom ROMs generally have issues which tend to frustrate.
I am running AICP, 9.0 Pie. Really great and smooth ROM, even better with a custom launcher. Would never go back to stock again. It's amazing how well our old Z3 Tablets run Pie.