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I just got my GT 7.0 Plus for Christmas and absolutely love it. I really like the compact 7" design and it will fit my needs perfectly. Now that my wife has played with it, she wants one too, but bigger. She is considering the 8.9" or 10". Since they are both the same price right now, she is leaning towards the 10".
What are the differences between the 3 tabs? From what I can tell the 10.1 and 8.9 are a little older and have Android 3.1 while my 7.0+ has 3.2. How much difference is there in the 2 OS versions?
I also see that my 7.0+ has the Samsung Exynos™ 2x1.2GHz processor. What is in the 8.9 and 10.1? Is it dual core?
Any other differences worth mentioning?
Keep in mind this is for my wife and she will not be rooting or modding it... She just needs something that is stable and just works.
I realise that this is a Gtab forum and I might possible get flamed for this, but here I go anyway
If your wife wants something that will be stable and will just work, without any tinkering or rooting or anything, and if she wants the tablet mostly for watching video, surfing the net, checking mail, playing some games etc. I'd recommend an iPad over the Gtab.
Why?
I'm absolutely in love with my Galaxy Tab, but I took the time to learn about it and tweak it. Hell, I scout these forums whenever I can to find some new tricks or tweaks. After it's tweaked, I'd never change it for an iPad, but if you're staying at stock, right now iPad is much smoother and overall a much better user experience - this may change in a few months when the official ICS comes out, but we can't be sure about that yet.
Why is she so averse against moding or rooting it? It's easy to learn and it can make the tab a whole different experience then remaining at official stock. Even if you don't want the "unstable" custom ROM (I'm writing in parenthesis since I haven't seen an unstable custom ROM here yet), you could go for a newer version of stock ROMs, or for CM9 when it comes out, those will most probably be as stable as the official stock, but still be faster/better then the one you get from Samsung if you wait for the official update.
There is practically no danger in rooting and moding your tablet, if you read the instructions and don't mess with stuff you don't understand, and there are many good guides around. And if you don't like it, you can still return everything back to the way it was through backups, no harm done.
As for the difference between devices, there are many reviews explaining just that around, google them
Heres one for technical specs, detailing differences between different tabs and galaxy note: http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-vs-8-9-vs-7-inch
[Edit] You can also move the list items around or add extra items to the comparison list in the link, if you want to compare your 8.9 to any other devices.
She is not averse to modding or rooting, but if it's not a stable release it causes more problems for me. She got her Infuse 4G right after it came out and I flashed a couple of not so stable roms and she hated them. It's fine now since the talented devs have released new stuff, but I have my own tablet and droid phone to keep running smooth, so I don't want to have to worry about hers too. As long as the stock rom will make her happy, I will leave it at that. But if there are roms that would make it better, she won't mind me modding it, so long as they are stable roms (which sounds like that won't be an issue).
One of the things she liked about mine was the screen shot button. I assume that's also there on the 8.9 and 10.1?
And the iPad is out. I absolutely hate Apple products (mostly due to iTunes) and will never own another one. We both had iPhones and neither one of us would ever go back. I have her trained to hate Apple as well.
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I have her trained to hate Apple as well.
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Haha, I have the feeling that we'd get along well
If the only problem keeping her from modding is stable releases, then there's no problem at all .
Yes, the screenshot button is part of HC's standard and every ROM I've seen till now has it (heard there is a way to disable it though, but I like it there ).
Are you thinking about the Wi-Fi only (7510) or about the 3G (7500) tablet? The 7500 is a bit more limited when it comes to different ROMs, as there are only 3 floating around right now, CM9 is currently being made for 7510 etc.
The 3G roms are Overcome, Ganbarou and BinDroid. I've tried BinDroid and Overcome (stayed on Overcome because the theme on BinDroid started to seem a bit too intrusive for my tasted after a few days) and they were both really stable. I don't think I've ever had any problems with any of them (I might have gotten a FC here and there, but nothing that I'd remember, nothing in the last week or so, and definitely nothing I couldn't have gotten on stock ROM).
For 7510, everyone recommends Task650's Galaxy Task, but I can't speak from personal experience as I need my tabs 3G connection. Some are saying that v8 is better then v9 or v10, but you should look in that thread or ask someone else to make sure.
As for the kernel, Pershoot's OC kernel is the undisputed champion - it allows you to OC, push extra modules (NTFS for instance) and stuff like that.
The Overcome experience also has a really nice guide to follow if you want to make sure you don't do something wrong (though it sounds like you know what you're doing), or if you want your wife to learn how to flash her tablet herself
I'll be getting the WiFi version only. She has an AT&T 4G phone and I have a Verizon 4GLTE phone and both have tethering enabled. So between the two of us, we almost always have a fast connection when away from WiFi. It sounds like either of the larger tablets would be a good fit for her. We might go to BB this evening so she can play with both before I order one.
The Task650 Rom looks pretty nice. Might have to flash that one for her to try.
Thanks for all the help guys!
10.1 and 8.9 are similar
Its just about the size
I have a 10.1 stock with ADWlauncher Ex and everything is smooth and stable.
A good point to consider would also be the available ROMs/tweaks/developers/accessories. I myself like the big screen, so I wouldn't go for the 8.9, even though that one is easier to handle with one hand only (you can actually hold it on one side, while I usually hold my tab in the middle with one hand, similar to how I would hold an open book).
Some places also offer testing devices, so maybe you could get one of those for a few days to see which one suits your needs better?
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10.1 and 8.9 are similar
Its just about the size
I have a 10.1 stock with ADWlauncher Ex and everything is smooth and stable.
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I think later on will be also with 7.7.. CMIIW..
I have the wifi tab, but after rooting and installing Task with the pershoot kernel, I also added the adhoc tethering hack and can now use my tab with my phone....
Best of both worlds without another data plan issue.
I went ahead and ordered the 10.1, should be here this week. And I have wifi tethering enabled on both of our phones, so the wifi version works just fine. Thanks for all the input!
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I went ahead and ordered the 10.1, should be here this week. And I have wifi tethering enabled on both of our phones, so the wifi version works just fine. Thanks for all the input!
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Awesome and a great choice. I've tried both In Paris V5 and GalaxyTask V10 on my GTab (2nd one mind you...sold my 1st one like an idiot and it was a 32 gig but now I'm back with a 16gig)
I've been looking for a good tab to get the gf around vday and I keep coming back to wanting to get her the Gtab.
Numerous stable roms, good support, lots of accessories, and ICS/CM9 right around the corner.
I think you and your wife will be very happy with it. Either of Galaxy/Phantom's ROMs are about as stable as you can get, just depends on if you want 3.1 or 3.2. With 3.2 Galaxytask you can flash b00sted's ICS theme, which is a very nice simplistic theme.
ETA: As for cases, I used the Gumdrop cases. Otterbox doesn't make any for the 10.1 and have no plans to, (which to me is stupid) but with that said, my Gumdrop cases have been on par or better than any Otterbox defender cases I have tried for other gadgets. Like the Defender cases, they do add a bit of size and weight but honestly I feel so much more confident in the robust nature of the tab with their cases on. Now if I could just find a car dock that would work with the case.
I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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No, you're, definitely, not insane and you're not alone on this! Exactly, my feelings. I've never thought that one day I'll start liking one manufacturer's skin/UI better than stock Android. But, it happened. And as a result, I've purchased the Xperia Z Ultra. Couldn't be happier more. It's the best phone I've ever owned.
I have to say/admit that I've faced more stability issues on CM more than Sony's firmwares. And for speed : Yes, it's definitely faster! IMHO, Sony's software engineers are done an excellent job for optimizing the software in the best possible way. There is zero lag, zero glitches etc. Just, very buttery smooth experience.
After the Mr. Kazuo Hirai's becoming the presiden and the CEO of Sony, many things have been changed fundamentally and noticeably. They got their innovation back as it was in 90s and 80s and one more time, started to make some unique products (QX10/QX100, first mirrorless Full-Frame camera except Leica : A7/A7r etc.) like walkman back in the day.
Hopefully, they'll keep this momentum and innovation as long as they can and we will benefit/enjoy of these great products.
Cheers,
Tarkan
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I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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No you're right, sony have done it right!
They've allowed you to keep the fluidity of stock android and have given you customization that dont slow the phone down
I couldnt be happier with my Z Ultra
It used to be that the smartphone SoC was very limited in terms of capability so a clean ROM is the better choice. But with rapid development and less bloat on Sony's UI (+cool design) and slower Android upgrade it is clearly better now. So yeah, not that much reason should i jump to CM ROM again (unlike previous RAZR MAXX of mine) for now Maybe if the Android 5.0 come out in the future i guess but for now no..
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I never thought there would come a day when I would say this about a manufacturer skin, but I'm actually enjoying the .290 Sony 4.3 firmware better than CM 10.2 (And I've been a militant CM supporter/user since version 6.1 -- 4 years ago in the Froyo days). Is it just me or do the Sony firmware builds feel noticeably faster? Also the battery life seems to be improved vs CM and the keyboard is sized more appropriately, etc. etc. The small apps are a nifty feature.
Now I never had stability problems with CM 10.2 so it's not about that; CM 10.2 is rock solid, maybe even slightly more stable than the Stock sony firmware but the Sony firmware seems so so much faster! What say you XDA friends? Do you agree? Am I insane?
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I Concur! I've had this device for about three months, & I really enjoy it also! I purchased it with the Sony UI in mind and sure enough it did not disappoint. I wasn't upset to see the Google edition released so soon after I bought this one. This is really the longest I've ever went without root also, as most prior phones did not make the 30 day mark.
I honestly would be happy with root access on the stock Sony Rom, however with all the confusion of root methods / model numbers / TA partitions / possibility of losing LTE, I'm just really trying to be patient. I kept in mind that buying such a large (under the radar phone) my slow my ability to tinker with it, but it's beginning to a bit of a hassle without root.
I recently accepted the 4.3 update, & the speed and mellow performance was noticed immediately. I was trying to stay on 4.2 as I had read different threads saying it was able to be rooted as oppose to 4.3 .290 but as of recently that seems to have changed now... This whole phone's process seems extremely confusing, and I'm tired of reading different contradicting threads .....and it's never a good idea to start playing with your phone when your frustrated & uninformed so I guess I'll just hang out a bit longer until things seem clearer....
I am with you guys.
Although on Note 2 I did not go with any AOSP except from the usual testing, but always came back to stock because of Spen features.
With the Ultra, this stock rom is so light, smooth and plus I keep the phone features plus it has been designed better to use the larger screen...I am VERY impressed with the Sony Rom so I dont see myself flashing anything but Sony based Roms.
I enjoy my phone now more than just using it to flash new stuff trying to get it to be better
Ah after I try a lot of custom ROM
monxDIFIED is my daily ROM
It is Sony base because I prefer stock app
FM Radio
Stock Camera
If I can install two stock app in CM base ROM like Carbon ROM
I may think using CM base ROM as my daily drive
That's common and you are not alone. I too am using the Stock 4.3 without any intention of flashing other ROMs (I do really love flashing as I had nearly flashed every Android phone I have ever owned)
I'm back on stock after a day on GPe. I love AOSP and the GPe ROM is amazing, but I tend to always end up back on stock again. Not sure what it is, but it's solid as a rock, and I know exactly how it works and what it does. No surprises. I feel safe using it, so I guess that's why? Xposed has also changed the way I use ROMs. No longer do I have to flash ROMs if I want a weird feature, I just install a module. I feel like I don't have to flash anything these days, except for when I want a different environment/UI.
In not that tired of Sony's UI quite yet (but I'm slowly getting there), but I'll probably migrate to the GPe full time down the road. BUT, official 4.4 is on its way, so it'll be really exciting to see how it'll be.
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I'm back on stock after a day on GPe. I love AOSP and the GPe ROM is amazing, but I tend to always end up back on stock again. Not sure what it is, but it's solid as a rock, and I know exactly how it works and what it does. No surprises. I feel safe using it, so I guess that's why? Xposed has also changed the way I use ROMs. No longer do I have to flash ROMs if I want a weird feature, I just install a module. I feel like I don't have to flash anything these days, except for when I want a different environment/UI.
In not that tired of Sony's UI quite yet (but I'm slowly getting there), but I'll probably migrate to the GPe full time down the road. BUT, official 4.4 is on its way, so it'll be really exciting to see how it'll be.
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Im back running stock UI as well (own rom with Dogg tweaks), and am more or less happy with it.
Cant wait for 4.4 stock (not here today yet)
I had a Nexus 7 and I ran AOKP, I had an Nexus 4 and I ran AOKP, I had a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and I ran CyanogenMod. Today I switched to Sony Xperia Z Ultra and I don't want to switch to AOSP. It never happened before, but I feel like Stock ROM is good
my galaxy tab is always on another rom, after that i had asus padfone, which had no development at all. and z ultra makes me not want to change to another rom at all. loving the stock, dunno why. I'm still on 4.2 and for me it's pretty smooth and fluid already i dont even need to upgrade.
Recently get an OTA for 4.3, but there's no way to root it in a simple way. tempting to root using jackie's way or flashing monx but im still too lazy to do it, still enjoyin my current 4.2 haha
I think sony did a good job here
I'm with you too dude. For me it's close enough to stock not to piss me off, their skin is simple and black base (better for battery), and I like some of the bloatware too.
I have deleted a lot, but that's another thing I like, I was able to delete or freeze most of what I didn't want without needing root. On touchwizz practically nothing could be deleted without root.
For me, Sony have worked it really well, bugs aside, and 290 is perfect IMHO except bluetooth.
I love cm, don't get me wrong, I just don't need it as much with Sony as I did with Samsung.
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Same here, actually i'm still on 4.2.2. Still amazed with stock rom, looks good and stays smooth and fast. I can endless opening apps, not any hick up. OOM works unnoticed, and don't need to restart device. On my old LG 3d i changed roms and kernels continously. My son his tab2 flashed a hour after purchase. My Acer A700 running CM10.1 unfortunately my daughter jumped on screen i need to order new screen/digitizer.
But i'm surpised with myself that i'm still on stock and don't want to flash. Only reason for me to flash would be working miracast with my LG 55LM750S.
I'm back on the GPe ROM I was bored yesterday, so the only thing to do when i'm bored is to install or flash something. I'm still amazed how everything is running so smooth and i have still to find a bug. I haven't found a single one. I find it funny that we went from AOSP ROMs that had their fair share of problems, to a AOSP ROM that is perfect like THAT.
I guess i'll keep using GPe for now, but i find some small things to be a little annoying. The volume is rather strange. It can be really quiet on one level, and be really loud on the next one, which makes it very annoying since i have to try to find the sweet spot. The stock ROM is much better at this. The quick toggles are also quite bad. Why do i have to press and HOLD to activate/deactivate a feature? Why can't i just tap a toggle like on CM? One tap on AOSP will open the settings for that feature, and someone at Google should be shot in the face. Well, that's about it really
I agree, been on and off Cm9-10 for years with some stints on Samsung's JB, but these ROMs rock. Only complaint is WIFI is a bit flakey. I don't even have a reason to root.
I have both a C6833 and Tablet Z.
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With my ex Galaxy S3 I went from stock to CM in like 4/6 months, and from there I just wanted to change phone like every day.
I guess I just want this to be my phone for a long time, therefore I'll wait to transform it to see if the stock rom satisfies me long enough to get to the official 4.4.2 update.
Which, I bet will be the last "quick" update.
After that I'm sure we will see 4.5, but at a super slow pace.
Anyway, I need time to install and backup everything to begin trying the GPe, and with a 6yo daughter and a 40days son I really don't have much left... XD
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With my ex Galaxy S3 I went from stock to CM in like 4/6 months, and from there I just wanted to change phone like every day.
I guess I just want this to be my phone for a long time, therefore I'll wait to transform it to see if the stock rom satisfies me long enough to get to the official 4.4.2 update.
Which, I bet will be the last "quick" update.
After that I'm sure we will see 4.5, but at a super slow pace.
Anyway, I need time to install and backup everything to begin trying the GPe, and with a 6yo daughter and a 40days son I really don't have much left... XD
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Congrats! I guess that's why we haven't really seen you around here that much lately, but you have a brand new boy in your house now so that's expected
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Congrats! I guess that's why we haven't really seen you around here that much lately, but you have a brand new boy in your house now so that's expected
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Thanks! I try to keep up with everything but now even Tapatalk is against me (meaning the new interface is fugly as hell).
Anyway, I'm curious, does the GPe support multiple users like on the Nexus 7? It is a fantastic feature as it keeps my daughter within the fence of her few apps...
That may be a feature I'd be interested in...
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Thanks! I try to keep up with everything but now even Tapatalk is against me (meaning the new interface is fugly as hell).
Anyway, I'm curious, does the GPe support multiple users like on the Nexus 7? It is a fantastic feature as it keeps my daughter within the fence of her few apps...
That may be a feature I'd be interested in...
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Hmm, i have no idea. I think it "pops up" when you activate tablet mode. I know that CM supports it though, but since GPe build is strictly made for the ZU, Sony may have removed the feature (i can't prove it though).
Just a word on my own experience regarding the upgrading of my Nexus 10.
Actually I have two because one was stolen and then returned to me - but after I replaced it.
Both of my tablets with 4.4 installed have been great. They did everything I wanted without any problem. Why did I bother to upgrade to Lolipop? Well because I love gadgets and the latest technology.
As soon as I went to 5.0, there was a huge deterioration in the quality of the wireless connection. I had my other non-upgraded Nexus to compare with and it was clear that there was a big speed difference, connection difficulties, and sometime wireless dropouts.
I was very pleased when 5.01 was released because I had read that this owuld fix the wireless problems.
It didn't. Exactly the same problems. No improvement at all - and I had my 4.4 tablet to compare with.
Last weekend, I finally found the time to revert to 4.4 using the WugFresh Nexus toolkit.
Absolutely brilliantly easy to do. Took about 20 minutes and I was restored to 4.4.
There has been an immediate improvement in the performance of the tablet so far as wireless connectivity is concerned. It's like night and day.
Frankly, I'm puzzled as to what benefits there are from a Lolipop upgrade. It's certainly not the next big thing, by any stroke of the imagination.
I understand that 5.02 will be released in sometime this month. I suppose that I will try it out but generally I would advise people to stay with 4.4. It is a well developed mature OS. Is there a need to change?
The upgrade quality is quite hit and miss by what I'm reading. Both my Oneplus one and Nexus 10 run a custom build of 5.0.1 and I haven't encountered any problems that are being reported everywhere. I wish with tech troubleshooting there was a "one size fits all" solution but that's utopian thinking. I've upgraded and am finding the tweaks in the functionality quite useful, but the main reason for the upgrade has been the looks. You could try a custom ROM based on 5.0.2 seeing that you're familiar with the rooting toolkit anyways
I think battery life on my nexus 10 has taken a slight hit but it's nothing that I would revert back to 4.4 for. Oneplus one just runs like a nuclear reactor with any ROM
I sideloaded 5.0 via Wugfresh shortly after it came out and then reverted to 4.4 two days later.I had no special problems aside from the unavailability of Xposed framework, which is a deal-breaker for me. I have 4.4 set up the way I like it (including many "Lollipop" UI elements) and didn't find anything in 5.x that would justify giving that up.
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The upgrade quality is quite hit and miss by what I'm reading. Both my Oneplus one and Nexus 10 run a custom build of 5.0.1 and I haven't encountered any problems that are being reported everywhere. I wish with tech troubleshooting there was a "one size fits all" solution but that's utopian thinking. I've upgraded and am finding the tweaks in the functionality quite useful, but the main reason for the upgrade has been the looks. You could try a custom ROM based on 5.0.2 seeing that you're familiar with the rooting toolkit anyways
I think battery life on my nexus 10 has taken a slight hit but it's nothing that I would revert back to 4.4 for. Oneplus one just runs like a nuclear reactor with any ROM
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Thanks for this. I just want a standard rom - rooted. Improved looks would be nice but if it means sacrificing connectivity then I'll stick with 4.4.
I have to say that while I had 5.01 installed, I did get the impression that it was really just about looks.
I found the double entry screen - swipe to reveal pin screen - and then pin code to access - very lumpy and unnecessary.
I suppose that I will try 5.02 when it arrives but I'll be quick to revert if there is any deterioration in existing 4.4 functionality.
I expect that 5.XX is really just intended to work correctly the new 64bit gen of devices
It sure is a mystery why there are such a variety of experiences switching to lollipop. Mine has been all positive, and the improvement in smoothness alone was worth it. In KK there was such a jitter or stutter that was most noticeable when scrolling through screens or app drawer. It's either gone or barely there at times. Which makes sense, there were supposed performance improvements in 5.0.
If you're unsure about upgrading don't assume your experience will be like anyone else's. It's worth it if your N10 likes the taste of lollipops better than kit kats. You can always make a nandroid backup before trying.
I too reverted to 4.4: WiFi issues on lollipop are a deal breaker, and being able to use xposed (pie controls plus a few minor tweaks) on 4.4 is a nice plus.
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I had these same issues tried everything to sort the slow WiFi and the constant drop outs ,just by chance I changed the channel on the router and bingo! It cured all the issues I was having so something worth trying before giving up on lollipop.
I was hoping that 5.02 would fix the WiFi problems - it didn't. My tablet is downgrading to 4.4.4
Saw too many negative comments, and didn't want to lose xposed modules. Never upgraded!
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Lollipop is the Vista/Windows ME of Android!
Dead Cookies leave no trails...
Same issues for me. A few times a day I get dropouts, then authentication problem on my WiFi, but after a reboot it connects without any hicks. Worst update ever. I'm also thinking of going back to 4.4.4.
I have both Nexus 5 and Nexus 10. Been installed CM-Nightly build regularly. Only Nexus 10 experienced wifi issues. Just like mentioned here from different members, dropouts and authentication errors. Toggle wifi on/off will have it up awhile.
I live with this problems since 5.01 out. With now 5.1 on horizon, I hope we will have this issue fixed. Otherwise, I am going back to 4.4 in Nexus 10.
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Same issues for me. A few times a day I get dropouts, then authentication problem on my WiFi, but after a reboot it connects without any hicks. Worst update ever. I'm also thinking of going back to 4.4.4.
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Hey guys! I've been using LG G3 VS985 on 4.4.4 for quite a long time and i didn't like stock rom at all. I am considering to flash custom rom but i don't know which one to choose as i am new to this custom rom stuff.Here's a list of what i want in a custom rom:-
1-It should be stable because i want to use it on my daily driver
2-Performance is my main concern.Stock rom was choppy in animations
3-Battery Life
4-Camera should be usable as i've heard you've to compromise camera for nice custom rom.OR just suggest an alternative camera app.
I wanted to flash CAF AOSP[6.0.1] but the reviews were not good as it had number of issues. Also i am OK with older version of androids.Don't want the Android N.
Why not just stay with stock but update to 6.0 ? I've kept mine stock for over 2 years (taking the OTAs as they come). AFAIK an update to 7 is not availabe yet, and given the age of the phone it may never be.
To address your points:
1. It's STABLE. I can't remember the last time I had to reboot.
2. Performance is fine to me. Granted I don't do any gaming (that's what tablets are for!), but I haven't run into any issues with streaming video, email, photos, or reading.
3. Battery life is so-so, and always has been. I haven't really measured it because I have a wireless charging back. When I come home or to the office, I just place the phone on the Qi pad. A collateral benefit is that I always remember where the phone is!
4. Get Open Camera from the Play store. It lets you set things like ISO, color balance, focus type, scene mode, etc. Works fine with the G3 on 6.0
The only real problem I've had is that the battery died after about 18 months (same thing happened to my wife's G3). That may well be a result of heat generated by the wireless charging, but since the battery on the G3 is replaceable, the fix was a $20 battery from LG.
I don't particularly like the stock interface, but Nova Launcher took care of that.
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Why not just stay with stock but update to 6.0 ? I've kept mine stock for over 2 years (taking the OTAs as they come). AFAIK an update to 7 is not availabe yet, and given the age of the phone it may never be.
To address your points:
1. It's STABLE. I can't remember the last time I had to reboot.
2. Performance is fine to me. Granted I don't do any gaming (that's what tablets are for!), but I haven't run into any issues with streaming video, email, photos, or reading.
3. Battery life is so-so, and always has been. I haven't really measured it because I have a wireless charging back. When I come home or to the office, I just place the phone on the Qi pad. A collateral benefit is that I always remember where the phone is!
4. Get Open Camera from the Play store. It lets you set things like ISO, color balance, focus type, scene mode, etc. Works fine with the G3 on 6.0
The only real problem I've had is that the battery died after about 18 months (same thing happened to my wife's G3). That may well be a result of heat generated by the wireless charging, but since the battery on the G3 is replaceable, the fix was a $20 battery from LG.
I don't particularly like the stock interface, but Nova Launcher took care of that.
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As for why I'm looking. Magisk framework and MagiskSU can't modify the stock ROM boot.img and verify even when bumped. For why that matters, no netflix now or very soon if rooted. Custom ROM can use a script to bump the boot.img after flashing seSuperUser and avoid the SafetyNet DRM checks.
For why that matters, no netflix now or very soon if rooted.
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Ok, but the OP didn't say he needed to be rooted. In fact, since the G3 is my "daily driver', I prefer to keep it stock unrooted (with Nova /launcher to take the rough edges off the LG UI.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against rooting per se; I have three tablets (Nexus 7, Nexus 10, and Samsung S2 8.0) that are all rooted. Unlike the G3, however, they are not "mission critical" for me. When I break something (and believe mei, I have! ) I can afford to take the time to figure out a fix.
Hi there all - I've been digging through these forums, and all over the web, and have not found a definitive answer for this one.
I'd love to know what the best setup is for a stock ROM - I'm running 7.11 (latest 32.4.A.1.54) and I'm not too impressed with the battery life, even with a brand new battery. That version is stable for me, but I'm wondering who's tinkered with their phone enough to have a good baseline?
I'm wanting to root, and then run a debloated stock ROM. I'll happily apply some tweaks, but the ones I've seen on here appear to be no longer stable, or unrelated to my needs.
Who's settled on a really good setup for their Z5C? I want to get a final config and just use the thing until I upgrade - no more testing updates etc. I doubt we'll be getting many more official updates...
bener said:
Hi there all - I've been digging through these forums, and all over the web, and have not found a definitive answer for this one.
I'd love to know what the best setup is for a stock ROM - I'm running 7.11 (latest 32.4.A.1.54) and I'm not too impressed with the battery life, even with a brand new battery. That version is stable for me, but I'm wondering who's tinkered with their phone enough to have a good baseline?
I'm wanting to root, and then run a debloated stock ROM. I'll happily apply some tweaks, but the ones I've seen on here appear to be no longer stable, or unrelated to my needs.
Who's settled on a really good setup for their Z5C? I want to get a final config and just use the thing until I upgrade - no more testing updates etc. I doubt we'll be getting many more official updates...
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Carbon Rom is pretty Solid!! I've got the original battery and battery life is quite good!! But then....you said stock and Carbon is Lineage based
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z5 Compact using XDA Labs
Chronic2k13 said:
Carbon Rom is pretty Solid!! I've got the original battery and battery life is quite good!! But then....you said stock and Carbon is Lineage based
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z5 Compact using XDA Labs
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I'd be totally willing to give it a go - it just seems that all the ROMs I've found have one or two decent 'not working' issues. I'll look into it - thanks for the recommendation.
Last Android 5, 32.2.A.0.305_R5C gave me, yes I am a light user, 10 (ten) days!
Then 6 came and it almost halved.
Fingerprint unlocking was better on 6, so I didn't go back to 5.
Phone battery was fresher then of course.
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Last Android 5, 32.2.A.0.305_R5C gave me, yes I am a light user, 10 (ten) days!
Then 6 came and it almost halved.
Fingerprint unlocking was better on 6, so I didn't go back to 5.
Phone battery was fresher then of course.
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That's amazing! What do you get on 6? 7 has not been good battery-wise for me.
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That's amazing! What do you get on 6? 7 has not been good battery-wise for me.
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On 6: it was a 4-6 days. Now on 7.1.1 (32.4.A.1.54_R3E) 3 days, but nowadays a use the device more intense (GPS always on). I have ForceDoze installed. Don't expect wonders from ForceDoze.
I am not monitoring it very close anymore, just accepted that it isn't over week anymore!
On 5 I had not ForceDoze installed, bus disabled some things (usually GPS off)
You guys, more than 2days means you are not REALLY using your phone!!! Or you are using it as a phone and not much more!!! Add Bluetooth connections, sometimes bad signal, location services, multiple messaging apps and mails to get the usual battery time of 1-2 days?
I'm intrested in this question too... Which is the best ROM for Z5c for STABILITY and STABILITY and features?
I installed eXistenZ on a Z3c and I really loved it. Everything working without a single bug and a lot of extra customizations thanks to eXistenZ app. Is there something similar for Z5c? Or an AOSP ROM without any single bug and perfectly stable?
Thank you
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Carbon Rom is pretty Solid!! I've got the original battery and battery life is quite good!! But then....you said stock and Carbon is Lineage based
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z5 Compact using XDA Labs
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But is it better than stock ROM?
Im looking for the same thing as OP. Clean, stable and good battery life. But since messing with Sony roms and root is far more complicated than it is on a Samsung, LG and pretty much anything else, just havnt taken the time to try out everything. Hope anyone who has tried different roms can give their suggestions, thanks
Latest .11 MM stock rom is also very good.
I'm still using it daily on my Z5c, as I never updated it to Nougat (mainly because xposed was not supported months ago). It's stable and battery friendly. You should try it.
Doze and long-life battery features are there.
I cannot say if camera is better on Nougat, this is one of the most Important questions imo.