http://www.amazon.com/Archos-501778...ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1325015315&sr=1-7
Thinking about grabbing that tablet, as I'm dying to have one to mess with, but I don't wanna pay alot either for one. Seems from most cheap tablets (and this is no exception) that if you stay stock than you can expect to receive little to no support or updates, and outdated version of Android, and no market access. Thinking if I can put cyanogenmod on this, than I don't really care about that anyway.
That Arnova is not the same as the Gen8 which are the 101, 70, 43, 32, and 28. Don't really know anything about them.
I looked at all those, resistive touchscreens, yuck. Either way I'm learning more and more in the cheap tablet market you get what you pay for. Might be best to steer clear of anything with the Archos name brand on it.
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Cor-master said:
I looked at all those, resistive touchscreens, yuck. ... Might be best to steer clear of anything with the Archos name brand on it.
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Archos 101 has a capacitive multitouch screen.
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As does the 70.
Only the 28, 32, and 43 have resisitive touchscreens, though supposedly they are relatively good for resistive touchscreens.
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I been thinking of getting it for past week.. It looks like a nice unit.. I'm new to the tab/smart phone arena.. Never had either of both..
I can get it for $230+ tax seems like the best tab for around that price.. One thing was can I increase the storage on the tab easily.. all this and that about roms and such.. Are they easy to use and can they really increase the speed of the tab and such.. Thx alot.
Our best rom, urukdroid, is nearly perfect and with an additional kernel from sibere the tab is really fast..
But:
If you can wait and if you want the fastest tablet in the world yet, wait for the generation 9 of arfhos tablets, only one month left they are really great tablets, you can find specs here at the forum
I bought it in November last year, at that time only Galaxy Tab, I-Pad and Archos was available... it was ok to buy the tablet to get familiar with Andoid-based Tablets.
At this point of time I would prefer another one with at least 512MB RAM. Agree, for that price it seems to be the best one, but if you are able to spend a few more bucks - do it I think I will buy a new one by end of this year, but I dont think it will be the Archos Gen9.
The specs of the newer ones do seem impressive, but does anyone know what kinda price point they may have.. It seems it could bring a much higher price then current models new tech and all.. And how i hate waiting lol..
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The specs of the newer ones do seem impressive, but does anyone know what kinda price point they may have.. It seems it could bring a much higher price then current models new tech and all.. And how i hate waiting lol..
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Archos 80:
8GB 250$/€
16GB 300$/€
250GB 350$/€ OR 400$/€ I FORGOT..
Archos 101:
8GB 300$/€
16GB 350$/€
250GB 400$/€ or 450$/€ I forgot
These prices are very low for such a good tablets
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Archos 80:
8GB 250$/€
16GB 300$/€
250GB 350$/€ OR 400$/€ I FORGOT..
Archos 101:
8GB 300$/€
16GB 350$/€
250GB 400$/€ or 450$/€ I forgot
These prices are very low for such a good tablets
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Ahh that's a shame, I guess I'll wait and see.. I was hoping they be little more expensive lol.. Maybe this may drive price down little more on 101.. thx guys.
Lenn said:
Our best rom, urukdroid, is nearly perfect and with an additional kernel from sibere the tab is really fast..
But:
If you can wait and if you want the fastest tablet in the world yet, wait for the generation 9 of arfhos tablets, only one month left they are really great tablets, you can find specs here at the forum
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urukdroid is far away from "nearly perfect" (maybe it seems like because there is not really any competition in developing for archos devices, which does say enough about archos devices at all), it's a mess and the ui/unmodified framework from archos is ugly like gnome was 10 years ago, and its not even $aurons fault alone (except he does not like android and google services at all), but because of archos not affording more than part-time developers on their devices and not releasing an actual kernel version with the hardware drivers to run a full actual android version (yes android, if i wanted some debian workarounds/services like samba server i'd bought a barebone and put debian on it, oh, wait i have allready). the only advantage: it's cheap, all said.
archos - it will take a time for me to ever buy something again from them, clearly not gen9 as there are alternatives out by now and i clearly don't want a cheap but useless toy for a few month until they get bored at archos with it again.
and this permanently canonising urukdroid and archos in this forum is really painful.
Best if you'll really wait for the new gen9, because they'll have the same price as the gen8 and they will be faster
The Archos fans forum has links to the US archos.com store which has a sale: $200 for the 8G SSD version and $250 for the 250 G HD version.
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I'm going to buy one... Thinking about the n5zero (5inch) or the nova 7 paladin (7inch), I'm buying just for playing some games, read some book, and flash a lot of roms.... I'll have any problem to flash roms or root? These things came with the boatloader locked or not? I'll have any problem with this? Or it's going to be normal and easy as a normal device? (I'm not a noob, I know how to root, flash roms... I have same experience... But just to be sure...)
Ah, if you have another idea for a nice tablet in the same price (60- 120 dollars) it will be welcome...
Thanks a lot and sorry for the bad english...
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Anyone? I'll have any problem with rooting, flashing...??
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Wait until later on in the year, around April - May. nVidia and ASUS are releasing a tablet for $249 with Tegra 3 (Quad-Core, of course), 1GB of RAM, and it's got a nice resolution of 1280x800.
The idea of cheap tablet may sound tempting, but there wont be developing community backing it up. So in the end you have a device with same android version forever.
Go for big manufacturers like asus, samsung, motorola.
Refurb Nook Color can be had for $129 and makes for a nice little tablet, I'm running CM9 nightlies on one as we speak, it's got a really good dev support / following.
I'll second the nook color. If you can get a refurbished one for under $150, it will beat the pants off of anything else in that price range. The display is one of the best at any price, and the build quality is exponentially better than any of the Chinese tablets.
You mention flashing custom roms - the cheap Chinese tablets don't usually have any. If you are really lucky, the manufacturer might put out an update or two. The nook color, on the other hand, has dozens of custom roms and tweaks already and plenty of people still working on more. Check the nook color development section yourself and see what I mean.
I have a arnova 10 G2 , I brought from carphone werehouse for 135 pounds.
I have added all the google staff to it ( archos hate google ) its fab .
Is it a cheep tablet , yes.
Do i look at Emails etc only on it , yes
Does it have the same power as my Desire...a wee bit less!!
Wil I put ICS on it.. one day !!
You should consider the Kindle fire. I'd also suggest looking at the htc flyer. Its a little above your price range but I think it's a great tablet. At $120 your goIng to get what you pay for, a really lousy tablet that will be a waste of money because it sucks so much. Better to spend a few extra bucks and get a useable tablet.
You should save your money, at that price point you will get an unusable POS that no custom ROM can fix.
If you can find an BNIB HP Touchpad for $100-$200, then I would grab that sucker. It runs 1.2 ghz by default, and can be overclocked to 1.7 (1.9 works too, but its unstable), and it's dual core! It's super fast with android on it, and currently has a couple unofficial builds of cm9 running smoothly on it. If you don't want to wait, the hp touchpad is a great choice. Gotta get it brand new though, as they've been discontinued and "repaired" units often involve cracks next to the speaker.
Some no name tablets will see little to no developer support so watch out for that. For your budget I would consider a Nook Color refurb. It has pretty decent dev support.
I have a no-name tablet with nice specifications for the price (Cortex A9), but it doesn't have community support. It's a pity because you can get bored easily.
kindle fire can be rooted and use android
Yeah.. I'm getting the kindle fire... The touchpad is to big for me..
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Nook Tablet, imo.
I have one. $250, double the specs of Kindle Fire.
It's fully cracked now, I'm running a fully-working CM7 on it.
Also, I think ASUS' $250 Tegra 3 tablet is a myth. They just teased it to stop people from spending money on Nook and KF.
And if it ever gets released, that price won't be awesome at that point anymore. By that time those specs won't be anything special.
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Nook Tablet, imo.
I have one. $250, double the specs of Kindle Fire.
It's fully cracked now, I'm running a fully-working CM7 on it.
Also, I think ASUS' $250 Tegra 3 tablet is a myth. They just teased it to stop people from spending money on Nook and KF.
And if it ever gets released, that price won't be awesome at that point anymore. By that time those specs won't be anything special.
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The kindle has a 1 GHz dual-core processor and the nook a 800 MHz, and by same videos that I ve seen the kindle is faster...
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I am in the market for a new tablet.
What is better, an Asus Nexus 10 or an Archos G9 Turbo?
1) Build quality
2) Display
3) Performance
4) Utility
5) Firmware
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I am in the market for a new tablet.
What is better, an Asus Nexus 10 or an Archos G9 Turbo?
1) Build quality
2) Display
3) Performance
4) Utility
5) Firmware
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Build quality I give to the nexus, the archos however, can take a major lickin. And will still work.
Display I don't know. I find my g9 display fine.
Performance, I will give to the nexus as its a newer technology. The archos is fine for most tablet"y things. I use mine for navigation in my jeep, doc editing, playing some games, doing the usual forum reading etc.
Utility, archos hands down. With a micro SD slot, micro USB and full size usb, as well as an available 250gb hard drive, the nexus does not come close to the archos in this area.
Firmware, if you do not need the latest right away, then archos is fine. Serdu purdu has amazing sets of roms for our devices. I'm running his clean and fast from now and its great.
Btw, archos has the 10xs out now with a lot of new features plus a keyboard cover. Very cool device for the same if not less than the n10. Do a specs comparison of those two.
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I recently got a Nexus 7 and it crushes my G9 80 Turbo with build quality, display, performance, and most importantly firmware stability. And it cost less then the G9.
I do not know why anyone would even consider an Archos tablet these days with all their problems; given that there are so many better performing, higher build quality, lower cost alternatives available.
Nexus 10 is 400$
Archos 101g9 is 300$
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Nexus is the better quality tablet without a doubt, it also has the best display of ANY tablet currently available.
The major drawbacks of it are no expandable storage and lack of availablity.
I had wanted a nexus 10 but couldn't find one so I ended up buying the 101xs and I'm pretty happy with it
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I got a "first generation" 80g9 1ghz/512mb and only 8gb storage.
I found a used one, only 60 € incl a 16Gb microsd, so i couldnt lose mutch if it whas junk
I thougt it whas a cheap chinese tablet, never heard from the name Archos before.
Just needed something to tinker with and for surfing around the web and of course the gps function.
And i didnt want to spent top money for "a toyish" tablet.
O man what was i mistaken, in a positive way.
Its a joy to "play" with, everything works as it suposed to and smooth.
Had a view bumps with a firmware update but that was my own fault.
My next tablet is probably going to be a Archos again.
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I got a "first generation" 80g9 1ghz/512mb and only 8gb storage.
I found a used one, only 60 € incl a 16Gb microsd, so i couldnt lose mutch if it whas junk
I thougt it whas a cheap chinese tablet, never heard from the name Archos before.
Just needed something to tinker with and for surfing around the web and of course the gps function.
And i didnt want to spent top money for "a toyish" tablet.
O man what was i mistaken, in a positive way.
Its a joy to "play" with, everything works as it suposed to and smooth.
Had a view bumps with a firmware update but that was my own fault.
My next tablet is probably going to be a Archos again.
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There new archos would have to be near flawless. I have the 80g9 and its laggy and slow. I have tried numerous roms etc to try to make it smooth but nope, and archos has no time to send out firmware updates. The GPS does not work reliably either.
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Here is a smal vid, this vid is taken from my own tab.
I gues i am just one of the lucky few
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnozgHsrQjw
The 10g looks nice and sleek.
But i dont like is the bezel, but thats just a personal note.
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Here is a smal vid, this vid is taken from my own tab.
I gues i am just one of the lucky few
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnozgHsrQjw
The 10g looks nice and sleek.
But i dont like is the bezel, but thats just a personal note.
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You ARE one of the lucky few. The GPS issue is well documented here.
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I will be moving to the new Archos line as soon as it is released so I need your guys help on which one to move to. The reason I ask is because I know that the 80 XS will have a rockchip processor while the 101XS will have a TI OMAP 4470. Which will be better in terms of development as well. I would really your opinions. Thanks
They both are very low end. Not very good for development considering not a lot of development for it. You should consider the nexus 7 or nexus 10 instead.
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Yea I know Nexus is better 100% of the time for development. No argument there. But I don't really like the fact that non of those had sd card slots. I really like Archos new design. Idk, I like having something different and Archos is just that. When I say development I mean that which will get more. I know that compared to other devices there is extremely little going on here. I guess it might all come down to which one Surdu supports lol. Anyone has any suggestions?
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Yea I know Nexus is better 100% of the time for development. No argument there. But I don't really like the fact that non of those had sd card slots. I really like Archos new design. Idk, I like having something different and Archos is just that. When I say development I mean that which will get more. I know that compared to other devices there is extremely little going on here. I guess it might all come down to which one Surdu supports lol. Anyone has any suggestions?
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I have the 80g9. The form factor is the same as the 8xs. I love the size of it. Typing on screen is easy and its just the right size for most every task. I find the larger tablets cumbersome to hold for longer periods.
I'm anxiously waiting for the 8xs here in n/a.
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Yea. The 80g9 was the perfect midpoint. I still want to know which would perform better though. TI OMAP4470 or rk3066
What are you doing with your tablet? From the videos I have seen, the new archos performs smooth and fast. The 8" I have not seen in action yet. But having my 80g9 for awhile now and running serdu's clean and fast rom, the only issue now is the amount of ram in my tablet. 512mb fills up quickly and a reboot is needed every so often to keep the tablet fast. You know when you have your ram filled as the tablet is slow to react.
A non issue with the tablets with 1 gb of ram.
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oh okay good. I also have 512mb Ram and it's killing me lol. My only other issue now is the keyboard size in the cover board. An 8 inch keyboard might be too small. Did you check that out by chance? Surdu's Clean and Fast is the best, It's what I'm running now.
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oh okay good. I also have 512mb Ram and it's killing me lol. My only other issue now is the keyboard size in the cover board. An 8 inch keyboard might be too small. Did you check that out by chance? Surdu's Clean and Fast is the best, It's what I'm running now.
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I have not seen either gen 10 device.
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It usually just comes down to what you are looking for. a bigger screen in the 101(10.1 inch) or more portability in the 80(8 inch) all preferences
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It usually just comes down to what you are looking for. a bigger screen in the 101(10.1 inch) or more portability in the 80(8 inch) all preferences
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I consider both portable. I'm used to lugging around a 17" Acer notebook. I find the 8" form factor much nicer to use from an ergo standpoint. Easy to type in portrait and still a big enough screen to do other things.
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I bought the 80 g9 because of the form factor as well. I'm not too sure about the 8 inch this time around though. That is because of the bezel size, it is way too big.
For those of you who didn't see it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hWuXa7BTIUM
What do you guys think?
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I bought the 80 g9 because of the form factor as well. I'm not too sure about the 8 inch this time around though. That is because of the bezel size, it is way too big.
For those of you who didn't see it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hWuXa7BTIUM
What do you guys think?
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Its still small enough to reach the entire screen with your two thumbs. That's all that matters.
As you can see its more portable than the 10xs too
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Archos 80XS use Rockchip 3066 from China! => 101XS better ( use TI OMAP 4470 )
I don't see the difference if it originates from China. Other than cheaper production costs. Not sure if TI makes there chips from USA though. I just honestly don't see your point on how that makes the 101XS better because of that. If you care to explain how that would be great. Thanks for the response though, I appreciate it.
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I don't see the difference if it originates from China. Other than cheaper production costs. Not sure if TI makes there chips from USA though. I just honestly don't see your point on how that makes the 101XS better because of that. If you care to explain how that would be great. Thanks for the response though, I appreciate it.
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I suspect that he was referring to the fact that there is a stereotype (not entirely undeserved it must be said) that RockChip processors are of a lower quality and performace level than their TI, Qualcomm, etc. alternatives.
As of now there is less of a quality and performace gap (so far as I am aware) between RockChip CPUs and the CPUs of other manufacturers. I doubt very much if you would notice any performance issues if you went the 80xs over the 101xs, but (as you can tell if you've looked at the dev section for these devices) there is slightly more developer activity for the 101xs, so that may say something about the processor.
Could I enquire which of the two devices you chose in the end? (Assuming you chose either of them, of course.)
I am a little confused about all these archos models. Can you install the gen 9 roms on the new Archos 97 Platinum HD?
I'm sure isn't possible: different hardware, different CPU ...
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It appears to be a rebranded Onda v972. So nevermind.
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It appears to be a rebranded Onda v972. So nevermind.
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Apart from the panel everything else is different, so no it's not. Actually the cpu/gpu part is like twice as fast than "AllWinner 31" but whatever..
Having said that it would be trully a shame if it's not to be supported by xda. It's by far the best archos tablet and (by far) the best tablet under $300.
It's one of the few android tablets I would be happy to shell out money for, the part that it is not being supported by XDA is what makes me rethink it...
edit: A oh, ok; thought this thread was about Archos *Titanium* HD ... my bad, carry on ... Still it would be a wonderful idea if any or all of those hi-res cheap tablets were to be supported by xda
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edit: A oh, ok; thought this thread was about Archos *Titanium* HD ... my bad, carry on ... Still it would be a wonderful idea if any or all of those hi-res cheap tablets were to be supported by xda
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What difference does it make if it's a 'Platinum' or a 'Titanium'?
Facts are, there were/are VERY FEW devices Archos has ever sold that worked right! And the very few that ever did they screwed up with bad firmware!
Believe it or not, there actually ARE devices that work as good (in some case actually even better) than ANYTHING from Archos.
The reason there is so little support here on xda-developers is simply because ALL Archos devices are set up in a NON-standard way compared to all of the other major manufactures of Android devices. Archos COULD be making some world leading Android devices, but they really do not want to simply because if they ever did that they could not sucker people into buying the NEXT WORTHLESS ARCHOS DEVICE. Archos is actually WORSE than most of the cell phone companies here in the U.S. in that regard.
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What difference does it makI it's a 'Platinum' or a 'Titanium'?
Facts are, there were/are VERY FEW devices Archos has ever sold that worked right! And the very few that ever did they screwed up with bad firmware!
Believe it or not, there actually ARE devices that work as good (in some case actually even better) than ANYTHING from Archos.
The reason there is so little support here on xda-developers is simply because ALL Archos devices are set up in a NON-standard way compared to all of the other major manufactures of Android devices. Archos COULD be making some world leading Android devices, but they really do not want to simply because if they ever did that they could not sucker people into buying the NEXT WORTHLESS ARCHOS DEVICE. Archos is actually WORSE than most of the cell phone companies here in the U.S. in that regard.
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I know how badly the software sucks which is why i don't buy those tablets, so much more the reason to have custom firmware to fix it. If anything custom firmware matters a lot less in devices like nexus that are already close to impeccable. It's companies like archos that needs the most to be supported by xda *because* their software sucks yet the hardware is decent and it all goes to waste...
AFAIK Archos is the only droid manufacturer that has produced decent 4:3 tablets (which dimension I find ideal for tablet usage) and as it stands it all goes to waste, because of archos bad software *and* xda's zero support to it :-\ , it's a shame trully...
It has an octo-SGX 544...I don't see how anyone who's interested in tablets could possibly pass this thing up. I wish it was possible to install Chrome OS, Ubuntu, or Windows RT on the Platinum because the GPU would be great for those things.