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I was wondering how many of you might be put off by the fact that the Flyer is shipping with Gingerbread and not Honeycomb - even though it will get Honeycomb later.
Appreciate the feedback.
I love the idea of the scribe technology, but considering how small it is and battery life....plus it is not shipping with Honeycomb and the price is going to be higher than comparable devices....
It's sad as I have owned only HTC phones. I love their quality.
The scribe technology I LOVE! I can see so many added benefits of this - especially in syncing with Evernote. I also see a benefit with those having children.
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I love the idea of the scribe technology,
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There were some internal docs from either bestbuy or costco that were reporting a 10.1" screen edition as well later in the summer.
I'd pay top dollar for Scribe + 10.1". There is a serious dearth of handwriting systems for android. Now if we could just get an OCR input system (e.g. Graffiti for the old Palm PDAs). I've seen a demo of scribe, and it doesn't look like it does input analog>digital, maybe I'm missing something. Still better than nothing.
There was also one more interesting quip about Android 3.0 in Eldar’s article. According to him, if a hardware partner releases the tablet on Android 2.x version of OS, as per licensing agreement for Android 3.0, they are not allowed to update Android 2.x tablets to 3.0 version.
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so if the news(rumors) are true, htc flyer won't be getting any honeycomb due to licensing issues?
source: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/03/27/google-nexus-tablet-with-android-3-x-to-be-made-by-lg-android-2-x-tablets-wont-upgrade-to-3-0/
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so if the news(rumors) are true, htc flyer won't be getting any honeycomb due to licensing issues?
source: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/03/27/google-nexus-tablet-with-android-3-x-to-be-made-by-lg-android-2-x-tablets-wont-upgrade-to-3-0/
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I'd say that is probably just a rumour. I've not heard it from any other source. The article at unwiredreview is the only article that author has written and his dubious source of information is a Russian website that he links to
Also this from a far more reliable source:
From @HTC
@Farhadinho Absolutely. We are committed to offering a Honeycomb upgrade as soon as possible after Flyer's release.
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Edit: Whether or not Google are restricting froyo-honeycomb upgrades, it seems the Flyer has got the green light:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/HTC-...r&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter_web
What's all the hype over Honeycomb? I mean, what features do you gain other than all the overhype of being "tablet optimized. "
From my experience with the Xoom, tablet optimized means crashes at will and won't run crap......
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What's all the hype over Honeycomb? I mean, what features do you gain other than all the overhype of being "tablet optimized. "
From my experience with the Xoom, tablet optimized means crashes at will and won't run crap......
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I agreee - I'd rather wait for a stable version.
The Xoom is a worst case scenario. Made by Motorola, released prematurely.
The main benefit I see from Honeycomb is apps which are designed to run on larger screens, instead or "over-inflated" phone apps
Great I can't wait, however....
I can't wait for this tablet to come to market. Ofcourse there will be things I do not like, one is the fact it is not a phone. It is a tablet, and I want a tablet also to be a phone. Since it has 3g enabled I think a phone application is not hard to install. Any ideas on this?
Was all for the flyer as I'm a massive HTC fan ,but just ordered the ASUS transformer as it suits my want for a tablet and the need for a net book for the kids and it has honeycomb already and has good reviews
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Won't be buying due to the fact that I already have a galaxy tab (Big Mistake!!) Although the design and ui of the flyer look good, along with the fact that htc are good with updates, and a lot of people I have talked too like the pen. Not sure about the onlive myself due to the fact that you have to use a onlive controller (what are you meant to do with the tablet if the controller is in both hands?)
http://twitter.com/htc/status/60125525049491456
From HTC's twitter, in response to my questions about the Flyer. They are saying it will get a Honeycomb update.
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Not sure about the onlive myself due to the fact that you have to use a onlive controller (what are you meant to do with the tablet if the controller is in both hands?)
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The idea is that you stream the game to your tv, so the flyer just replaces the normal onlive box that is sold, playing games on the flyer screen is also possible, but i agree that it sounds somewhat difficult :/ maybe they are going to sell some sort of case/stand like the Xoom and iPad have
but yes all the rumors suggest (from staples leaked sheets that a 10 and 8.9 inch honeycomb tablet from htc are coming this june, maybe thats when flyer will get update
id like to see what they do to sense considering there is that base bar on the honeycomb though
HTC Flyer (Evo View)
I'm disappointed in HTC's first tablet. Just the screen size is what disappoints me. Wondering why they dont add the 3D into it like the G-Slate has, after all they are coming out with a new EVO3d that i will be picking up once released!. Companies are struggling to separate themselves from everyone else when these android tablets are going to start looking identical, but HTC has their SenseUI and now Scribe which in my book gives them the edge! I'm just excited to see what happens with 3rd party firmware tweaking for performance to eliminate the possibility of skipping. MikFroyo and Fresh both have wonderful Firmwares that made my Evo many times better in terms of performance while clearing out the clutter
The LG tablet does not have a 3some screen, only 3d camera, a 3some screen of that size would add a lot of extra cost, it just wouldn't be worth it, but yes a bigger screen would have been a better choice by htc, but then again if you look at the first Android phones they made and compare them to what they have now....great things I predict to come
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Game over for me. I just cancelled my preorder since the release date is going to slip again. Im travelling early June and want to make sure I have something to travel with so I ordered the Galaxy Tab 10.1v which I can pick up in a week or so.
Im gutted really! I really wanted a 7" tablet and REALLY wanted a HTC. I will check back here and see what you guys think of it after release *sniff*
Anyone considering exchanging the Gtab for the Asus TF due to its getting 3.2 already? I have 9 days left in buyers remorse and am considering doing just that. I have tried the Gtab and the TF side by side and the TF seemed to be a bit faster and smoother. The Gtab drew me in with its screen and thinness. I also speculated that the update to come out on 8/3/11 would be 3.2 but find out it is not and with Samsungs past history of not supporting its devices (I own a Vibrant and know first hand how they operate)I am concerned that the device would be stuck on 3.1 for months and months and months and months. Not knocking the Gtab it is a fantastic device just seems that Asus has proved they are dedicated to getting the latest updates out to their devices. Anyone else having any of these thoughts?
Here are the new user features for 3.2:
New user features
Optimizations for a wider range of tablets
Android 3.2 includes a variety of optimizations across the system to ensure a great user experience on a wider range of tablet devices.
Compatibility zoom for fixed-sized apps
Android 3.2 introduces a new compatibility zoom mode that gives users a new way to view fixed-sized apps on larger devices. The new mode provides a pixel-scaled alternative to the standard UI stretching for apps that are not designed to run on larger screen sizes, such as on tablets. The new mode is accessible to users from a menu icon in the system bar, for apps that need compatibility support.
Media sync from SD card
On devices that support an SD card, users can now load media files directly from the SD card to apps that use them. A system facility makes the files accessible to apps from the system media store.
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the galaxy tab will get these features. I suppose the question to ask yourself is: Is the need for these features greater than the need for the better screen and slimness?
I just traded in my Transformer, and I'll say this. The Transformer has an issue handling flash in browser. I would crash as soon as an in video ad would pop the browser would just stop running flash. It would require a reboot to get it back to good.
Also, the tab has a tendency to slow over time I would have to reboot the tab about once every couple hours because it would gradually start to slow to the point where it was unusable.
Again, I liked my Transformer, but the build quality and stability of the Gtab is quite nice.
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Here are the new user features for 3.2:
the galaxy tab will get these features. I suppose the question to ask yourself is: Is the need for these features greater than the need for the better screen and slimness?
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Good points!! I guess I am just reacting to some of the posts I have read in the TF forum. The majority seem to be declaring that everything is just smoother and faster. Browser no longer has any white spaces while scrolling. Course that could be the placebo effect. I am going to wait until 8/3 and see what samsung comes out with.
Nope. Simply because of built quality and handling of some of the files. Eventually SGT will get the 3.2 update sooner or later. If not then we consumer will definitely teach them a lesson in future.
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Also, keep in mind that Samsung has only been lagging a few weeks behind others on Android OS updates despite having released the tablet MONTHS after others.
I think Google is pushing update latency limits down to the Honeycomb vendors.
Or 3.2 could be the beginning of the end - Huawei being allowed to release a Honeycomb device despite their HORRIFIC software track record is a bad sign. If you think Samsung is bad/slow you have never owned a Huawei Android device... The S7 was a bugridden Eclair deployment and the Froyo update that USA customers never officially saw was also buggy (significantly less so, but still bad). Same with their S7 Slim.
I have both the Tab 10.1 and the TF. The TF is a great machine and Asus is very good about getting updates out quickly. It is a tough decision.
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I have both the Tab 10.1 and the TF. The TF is a great machine and Asus is very good about getting updates out quickly. It is a tough decision.
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I had them both also and took them both back and then saw 100.00 coupon from Staples and bought the Gtab again I really liked the ASus and it is a very difficult decision for me. If I thought that Samsung could be trusted to push 3.2 update in the very near future I would stay with the Gtab. I still have a Vibrant and the memory is still fresh how they lied and delayed and did virtually nothing to push out updates.Asus seems to be dedicated to pushing out the updates as soon as they come out. Of course that could change too.lol
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I had them both also and took them both back and then saw 100.00 coupon from Staples and bought the Gtab again I really liked the ASus and it is a very difficult decision for me. If I thought that Samsung could be trusted to push 3.2 update in the very near future I would stay with the Gtab. I still have a Vibrant and the memory is still fresh how they lied and delayed and did virtually nothing to push out updates.Asus seems to be dedicated to pushing out the updates as soon as they come out. Of course that could change too.lol
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I just did the update to 3.2 today on the TF. So far Samsung hasn't had any updates. I love the available ports and the memory card on the TF.
I couldn't find a Tab in stock to use the $100 off coupon. That coupon really sent the sales through the roof for all of the android tablets. I called all of the Staples within a 3 hour drive of me and none had any android tablets in stock.
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I also speculated that the update to come out on 8/3/11 would be 3.2 but find out it is not and with Samsungs past history of not supporting its devices (I own a Vibrant and know first hand how they operate)I am concerned that the device would be stuck on 3.1 for months and months and months and months.
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Samsung is not the one to blame for the most part on updates coming out for devices, your version of the Galaxy S phone is restricted by carrier on updates (as I experience from ATT with the Captivate). But if you look at the Galaxy S (and Galaxy S II), the Euro version (no carrier restrictions) seems to get updates every other week once they release the first firmware build for that phone.
The Tab will have 3.2 eventually, they just need to get TW released first before 3.2 comes. IMO, I wouldn't let that be a deciding factor on returning...
I also have both devices. I plan to keep my TF only because I have the dock for it. The Samsung just seems to "feel good in the hands" We will just have to see what Sammy does with updates on this. I have a feeling that they will be quite sluggish due to TW being on top if HC.
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I couldn't find a Tab in stock to use the $100 off coupon. That coupon really sent the sales through the roof for all of the android tablets. I called all of the Staples within a 3 hour drive of me and none had any android tablets in stock.
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I had just the opposite experience. I went to Staples two days after the $100 off coupon was announced, and when I went to the store they said they had gotten the SGT in three days ago and I was the first one to buy one. They said their tablets (all brands) were selling slowly, and, in fact, people were returning them because they mistakenly thought they operated just like their laptops -- minus the keyboards.
Anyway, I am very happy with my SGT, and feel it is the best Android tablet made. My friend who owns a Xoom acts a little jealous when I bring my SGT into his office. Yeah, he may have a micro SD card slot, but I just bought a USB adapter which will serve me fine. When I get Touchwiz, I will watch my friend turn green with envy.
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They said their tablets (all brands) were selling slowly, and, in fact, people were returning them because they mistakenly thought they operated just like their laptops -- minus the keyboards.
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"I don't know what this thing does exactly but its new and shiny and I've got $500 burning a hole in my pocket...I'll take it!"
Updates are just like Christmas. Once you realize its coming, you look at your device as outdated. You star thinking, i need that update because my device is inferior until it gets it. Other devices are getting it and im still here without it. Maybe I made the wrong choice? I should have gotten that other device?
Well, im here to tell you its not all about updates. Especilly with tablets as most are plain jane Honeycomb 3.1. I went through 4 Asus Tablets before I decided it was enough of a notice to try something else. So I got one Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and i am still using that same Galaxy Tab. That gpes along way in assuring i have the right tablet. I only hear about SGT users returning because of update envy or that they feel its too thin and therefore breakable.
I returned by TF #1 and #2 because of random reboots and bad screen bleeds. The screen bleed went deep enough into the screen it affected video playback. #3 got stuck on boot screen because of fat fingers on power/up volume. I would have issues getting it to turn on. I would short press, long press, quick press, repeat press, and so on. But it ended up in a mode where it would not go past the Asus screen, nor would it stay powered off. It would just keep rebooting. #4 out of the box would not lock and read the SD card.
I was told in the Best Buy store they have not had issues with the Asus. But they didnt get it in the stores until very recently. I heard the June production had a low QA and July was much better. Unfortunately birth dates arent something retailers track. Lol Plus they or the consumer should not have to buy or exchange 4 devices to get 1 good one. So moral of the story fast updates wont make up for 4 exchanges in my book. The updates are for software fixes, which one can normally live with or attribute to the OS itself. An issue even found in the industey leader iPAD2.
Lastly, i love how those who get new updates and post how, after 20 minutes of use, is "faster and smoother. " um, you just rebooted a device have only had a hand full of apps. Of coarse your device is faster, for now! Lol not that updates dont improve certain tasks and apps. But everyone always takes that as a bummer when they dont get the update. They start focusing on ANY lag or defect they see instead of just using it for what they bought it for.
Touchwiz is going to bring so many finishing touches to the GT, iPAD users are going to be a little jealous. 3.2 will be a non event to us because of all the workflow filler functions we get from the TW update. Hold on to your Tab. Try the update first and see what you think. If you can swing it buy a TF and try the 3.2 update. See what you think. Or simply try a display model that has been updated. But i would not get worked up over other manufacturers getting updates. Given you are on a wifi only model, there isnt a telecom having to test and update their apps and radios. So its just the manufacturer and the wifi radio.
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I just did the update to 3.2 today on the TF. So far Samsung hasn't had any updates. I love the available ports and the memory card on the TF.
I couldn't find a Tab in stock to use the $100 off coupon. That coupon really sent the sales through the roof for all of the android tablets. I called all of the Staples within a 3 hour drive of me and none had any android tablets in stock.
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What do you mean they haven't had any updates?
They updated to 3.1, TW is coming soon.
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Updates are just like Christmas. Once you realize its coming, you look at your device as outdated. You star thinking, i need that update because my device is inferior until it gets it. Other devices are getting it and im still here without it. Maybe I made the wrong choice? I should have gotten that other device?
Well, im here to tell you its not all about updates. Especilly with tablets as most are plain jane Honeycomb 3.1. I went through 4 Asus Tablets before I decided it was enough of a notice to try something else. So I got one Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and i am still using that same Galaxy Tab. That gpes along way in assuring i have the right tablet. I only hear about SGT users returning because of update envy or that they feel its too thin and therefore breakable.
I returned by TF #1 and #2 because of random reboots and bad screen bleeds. The screen bleed went deep enough into the screen it affected video playback. #3 got stuck on boot screen because of fat fingers on power/up volume. I would have issues getting it to turn on. I would short press, long press, quick press, repeat press, and so on. But it ended up in a mode where it would not go past the Asus screen, nor would it stay powered off. It would just keep rebooting. #4 out of the box would not lock and read the SD card.
I was told in the Best Buy store they have not had issues with the Asus. But they didnt get it in the stores until very recently. I heard the June production had a low QA and July was much better. Unfortunately birth dates arent something retailers track. Lol Plus they or the consumer should not have to buy or exchange 4 devices to get 1 good one. So moral of the story fast updates wont make up for 4 exchanges in my book. The updates are for software fixes, which one can normally live with or attribute to the OS itself. An issue even found in the industey leader iPAD2.
Lastly, i love how those who get new updates and post how, after 20 minutes of use, is "faster and smoother. " um, you just rebooted a device have only had a hand full of apps. Of coarse your device is faster, for now! Lol not that updates dont improve certain tasks and apps. But everyone always takes that as a bummer when they dont get the update. They start focusing on ANY lag or defect they see instead of just using it for what they bought it for.
Touchwiz is going to bring so many finishing touches to the GT, iPAD users are going to be a little jealous. 3.2 will be a non event to us because of all the workflow filler functions we get from the TW update. Hold on to your Tab. Try the update first and see what you think. If you can swing it buy a TF and try the 3.2 update. See what you think. Or simply try a display model that has been updated. But i would not get worked up over other manufacturers getting updates. Given you are on a wifi only model, there isnt a telecom having to test and update their apps and radios. So its just the manufacturer and the wifi radio.
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Very well said. I will also add this, if anyone looking for to get the update as soon as its released, then most of them are wasting time and money on this tab or TF. They should instead get themselves xoom.
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I know the new device is still very new. Although, I'm disappointed with lack of rooting now, I'm still in favor of this over Kindle Fire for a tablet in this price range. Another disappointment is no doubt the internal storage lock, forcing users to sideload only 1GB without additional SD card. Here's a few questions for those of you that have the device and been playing with it.
1) has anyone sideload VTC's stream app? I like to be able to stream video and music to tablet
2) where is this rumor PagePerfect [improved stock] pdf reader? I was at the store briefly on Thur and I can't find this app installed??? is this a vaporware BN hasn't push out? I prefer reading pdf over epub, i can't stand reflowable text that kills design.
3) anyone think we can hope NT can run latest Android v4, if rooted [a big if right now]?
Wait for NookTab to get root then buy. Nook Color took a while before magic happen. NookTab just came out today. Give it a couple weeks top. There are plenty of smart people here.
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Wait for NookTab to get root then buy. Nook Color took a while before magic happen. NookTab just came out today. Give it a couple weeks top. There are plenty of smart people here.
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I second this. As is it's a great tablet, but wait a few weeks for root. I think it'll happen before that though. No evidence to back this up. Just opinion.
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I returned mine and picked up a tab 7.0 plus. I have another nook tablet in the house so I will check in to see how development is going, but if you can swing it, the Samsung is worth the extra cost IMO
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I returned mine and picked up a tab 7.0 plus. I have another nook tablet in the house so I will check in to see how development is going, but if you can swing it, the Samsung is worth the extra cost IMO
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I was planing to return my NT too. I just ordered the tab 7 plus but my daughter thinks she will keep the Nook. I suggested that she look at the old tab 7 as it is a full hardware featured and rooted tab for under 300.
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I am literally sitting at my computer, trying to decide whether to take back my NT and maybe get a Tab 7, or even hold on to my DS7 until a good AND affordable 7" tablet comes out. But the NT is sitting on the table, looking at me, tempting me to open it.
Here's what I'm thinking...
1. The Tab 7 is still too expensive at this point. I've seen some online for around $300 but most are still in the $400 range. Yes, I could get it cheaper by getting it from one of the phone carriers but I don't like being locked into a 2 yr. plan, especially the way tech is changing so fast. Since I don't use stuff like cameras and GPS on my current DS7, I'm not sure the $150 difference is worth it.
2. I'm thinking about just staying with my current DS7 but there is no comparison between screens and battery life with the NT, which I found out are major considerations when it comes to tablets. The NT is (somewhat) lacking in apps compared to my full-blown DS7 tablet, but it's all about the important hardware, in my case, screen and battery life.
3. I've been playing with my wife's NT this weekend and once I found I was able to sideload apks from various Android sites, I've got hers pretty much set up the way she likes. One of the biggest problems with the NT is the lack of B&N apps. With Go Launcher and downloading apps from Onlyandroid.com, which has pretty much everything I've previously downloaded from Android Market, it's as useful as the DS7. All this and it's only been out a few days so you can only imagine what the techies are going to be able to do with the NT in a few months.
I took the bait and bought a NT earlier. I started to sideload some apps and to my surprise, I'm liking it. The only annoyance is the default interface, and once this is rooted [keeping fingers crossed], the sky is the limit I think.
IMHO, the hardware upgrade from NC makes NT much more usable.
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I returned mine and picked up a tab 7.0 plus. I have another nook tablet in the house so I will check in to see how development is going, but if you can swing it, the Samsung is worth the extra cost IMO
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It's $150 more and at a point where quad core, higher res 7-8" tabs are just around the corner. If I'm going to spend $400, I'd rather wait 2 months for a killer one at the start of a new generation.
If the Nook Tablet gets root and a stable ICS ROM, then it's a warranted, no question impluse buy. With this HW, it'd run ICS perfectly and the lack of physical buttons would work perfectly.
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It's $150 more and at a point where quad core, higher res 7-8" tabs are just around the corner. If I'm going to spend $400, I'd rather wait 2 months for a killer one at the start of a new generation.
If the Nook Tablet gets root and a stable ICS ROM, then it's a warranted, no question impluse buy. With this HW, it'd run ICS perfectly and the lack of physical buttons would work perfectly.
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True quad cores are right around the corner, but I bet you it will be at least 6-8 months before a 7" quad-core is even ANNOUNCED, yet alone released. Most people buying the NT want a smaller device anyways, so if they really want a fully functional 7" the galaxy tab is probably the best out there, and will be for a while (at least until the 7.7)
FYI, best buy is allowing returns until January 24th because of the holidays, so you can try a tab 7 plus for two months, and if you like it keep it, or sell it if something better comes out (out the NT gets rooted)
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I returned mine and picked up a tab 7.0 plus. I have another nook tablet in the house so I will check in to see how development is going, but if you can swing it, the Samsung is worth the extra cost IMO
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That's what I plan to do. Wonder why there is no Galaxy Tab 7+ forums yet here.
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FYI, best buy is allowing returns until January 24th because of the holidays, so you can try a tab 7 plus for two months, and if you like it keep it, or sell it if something better comes out (out the NT gets rooted)
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And another thing worth noting, because of the extended return policy, consider it a price guarantee too. If the Tab 7+ drops in price in the next 2 months, just go complain and I'm sure BB will give you the difference, or you could just return it and rebuy it.
I decided to keep iti
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I took the bait and bought a NT earlier. I started to sideload some apps and to my surprise, I'm liking it. The only annoyance is the default interface, and once this is rooted [keeping fingers crossed], the sky is the limit I think.
IMHO, the hardware upgrade from NC makes NT much more usable.
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I 100% agree. I tried the NC and didn't like it because it was too slow and the speaker was horrible. Like you, the more I'm using it, the more I'm liking it.
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True quad cores are right around the corner, but I bet you it will be at least 6-8 months before a 7" quad-core is even ANNOUNCED, yet alone released. Most people buying the NT want a smaller device anyways, so if they really want a fully functional 7" the galaxy tab is probably the best out there, and will be for a while (at least until the 7.7)
FYI, best buy is allowing returns until January 24th because of the holidays, so you can try a tab 7 plus for two months, and if you like it keep it, or sell it if something better comes out (out the NT gets rooted)
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Unfortunately quad cores only has marketing valie at the moment. most apps are still single threaded and taking advantage of multiple cores is not an easy programming task
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You didn't say what bothered you about the Kindle Fire, or that's what I'd suggest. If you spend more then you're getting into devices that were intended to be tablets in the first place, and the whole set of arguments changes.
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True quad cores are right around the corner, but I bet you it will be at least 6-8 months before a 7" quad-core is even ANNOUNCED, yet alone released. Most people buying the NT want a smaller device anyways, so if they really want a fully functional 7" the galaxy tab is probably the best out there, and will be for a while (at least until the 7.7)
FYI, best buy is allowing returns until January 24th because of the holidays, so you can try a tab 7 plus for two months, and if you like it keep it, or sell it if something better comes out (out the NT gets rooted)
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a Tegra 3 7" tablet leaked or announced between now and CES.
BTW, tablets are ineligible for that holiday return policy.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a Tegra 3 7" tablet leaked or announced between now and CES.
BTW, tablets are ineligible for that holiday return policy.
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That's not what the sales person told me when I bought my tab
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BTW, tablets are ineligible for that holiday return policy.
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This is untrue.
For holiday 2010, BestBuy's Holiday Return Policy didn't cover computers and tablets.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/2008-Gi...ns/pcmcat166500050003.c?id=pcmcat166500050003
For holiday 2011, no exception is mentioned.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Misc/null/pcmcat257800050001.c?id=pcmcat257800050001
The main stipulation is that it has to be a "gift purchase," so probably would be wise to not mention you've been using it for 2 months and got tired of it.
So apparently google's nexus tablet will be made by asus. Personally i think it will be the asus memo announced at CES.
Google and Asustek will unveil a 7-inch co-branded tablet PC as early as May, with the model targeting Amazon's Kindle Fire and to be priced at US$199-249, according to industry sources.
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http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120308PD215.html
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So apparently google's nexus tablet will be made by asus. Personally i think it will be the asus memo announced at CES.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120308PD215.html
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I do hope it is the 370t. 7 inch plus T3 best of both worlds.
I'd buy one, just for the hell of it, at $199. Hopefully Google will help subsidize this thing so they can hit that price point. A $199 ICS 7" Tegra 3 tablet with full Google services could be a killer. With the right promotions, it could compete nicely against an "iPad Mini."
Not that Android tablet makers (or Google, for that matter) have demonstrated an ability to effectively promote their products. But hey, there's always a first time!
Nothing's official yet. And as much as I like my TP, I seriously hope Asus won't be the one. None of their tablets has been perfect. So unless Google take over quality control, this could be a disaster.
Samsung is the way to go, but I guess after two hero phones, it's time to switch?
Itaintrite said:
Nothing's official yet. And as much as I like my TP, I seriously hope Asus won't be the one. None of their tablets has been perfect. So unless Google take over quality control, this could be a disaster.
Samsung is the way to go, but I guess after two hero phones, it's time to switch?
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I thought the transformer 1 was well received and one of the best android tablets you could get one it was out? Also, asus only has 2 tablets on the market.
And I dont think you could say any manufacturer has ever put out a tablet that has been perfect. A case could be made for the ipad with the lack of flash and its restrictions and what not. Its all based on preference.
wynand32 said:
I'd buy one, just for the hell of it, at $199. Hopefully Google will help subsidize this thing so they can hit that price point. A $199 ICS 7" Tegra 3 tablet with full Google services could be a killer. With the right promotions, it could compete nicely against an "iPad Mini."
Not that Android tablet makers (or Google, for that matter) have demonstrated an ability to effectively promote their products. But hey, there's always a first time!
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I would buy one also if its that cheap. Best band for buck. No tablet maker would have something that cheaply princely with that much power. It should be a no brainstorm to choose that over a kindle fire or nook color. I can't believe I got so impatient, right before I got the prime, that I couldn't find OG transformer for the black Friday price that I almost considered getting an acer100 7in. Or a kindle fire..lol. so glad I didn't. I did have my eye on Toshiba thrive bit heard too many horror stories on its battery life. I loved the fact it had full size USB ports. Although it had tegra2, the display model in store seemed to have decent speed to it. But it wasn't priced cheap enough. Then I heard about Prime for only 100 more and way more powerful. There was no turning back once I had my mind set on Prime.
demandarin said:
I would buy one also if its that cheap. Best band for buck. No tablet maker would have something that cheaply princely with that much power. It should be a no brainstorm to choose that over a kindle fire or nook color. I can't believe I got so impatient, right before I got the prime, that I couldn't find OG transformer for the black Friday price that I almost considered getting an acer100 7in. Or a kindle fire..lol. so glad I didn't. I did have my eye on Toshiba thrive bit heard too many horror stories on its battery life. I loved the fact it had full size USB ports. Although it had tegra2, the display model in store seemed to have decent speed to it. But it wasn't priced cheap enough. Then I heard about Prime for only 100 more and way more powerful. There was no turning back once I had my mind set on Prime.
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Dont you hate word predict? lol.
I would buy it even at $250. As far as acer, I have an acer a100 now and its got leaked ICS, rooted, with buildprop changed to a500. Even has mod to make your micro SD as your internal. So you're not limited to 8gb or 16gb anymore. ICS made a huge difference. Smoother than prime in some cases like home screen and app drawer transition. Even stock browser is smoother. With the build.prop change I can see and play 90% of gameloft games. The only thing really sucks about it is when I HDMI out to TV it gets laggy due to only being dual core and ofcourse the battery life is only about 5 hours. I'll post a video in a bit so you can see how smooth it is.
But once the 370t comes out of course I have to get that to replace the a100.
Might take me a some time to record ICS but heres a video I made a while back when it was still on HC. So you can imagine how smoother it will be on ICS.
Everybody seems to forget that Google has bought Motorola mobility for a reason in addition to buying patents.
With Motorola, Google can build its own handset and its own tablet.
gunner1937 said:
Everybody seems to forget that Google has bought Motorola mobility for a reason in addition to buying patents.
With Motorola, Google can build its own handset and its own tablet.
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This is true but would show favoritism over other Android manufacturers. Causing them to pull out of Android scene. Which would hurt Google in the end. So its smart for Google to choose someone else to make new Google nexus device. It'll show they not favoring Motorola. Asus will likely be the creator of new Google Nexus tablet n it'll be powered by tegra3. With new reports now of Qualcomm S4 chips having manufacturing delays and setbacks, alot of new android devices that were going to use that chip will be delayed Now. Which leaves the door wide open for Tegra3 to continue being the top most powerful Android chip out there.
I'm considering taking the offer for a refund. I can deal with gps problems as I wouldn't use this thing for driving but the wife/bt, no no. I use my tablet for portable multimedia and entertainment. I'm getting video crashes, web crashes, restarts, and the poor bt sound to my headphones when streaming. All adds up to the tablet not function for my purposes.
Tough part is deciding on what to do/get. I've already become hooked on the notion and ease of having a portable device like the tablet. I don't want to be out waiting for a few weeks for the refund check to be cut and mailed to me. Neither do I have another 400+ sitting around to drop on new tablet as I wait. I love my prime. I really do but I don't want to be frustrated longer waiting on word of a solution to the wifi/bt problem. Asus may find a software solution or they may accept it can't be fixed and never tell the owners this.
Of the currently available tablets on the market, what do members of the forum who have had multiple tablets think of the current selection? I'm fully aware that none of them will be quad and have the graphical ability of the prime. Honestly though, when will we actually see games that take advantage of the tegra 3? If I wanted pure gaming I would consider an apple product as developers of the nicer games are giving that system the sweetness and pushing them out.
I use my tablet for some gaming, web, and mainly streaming flash audio/video. I'm really considering the original transformer but what do others suggest? I'm also not interested in waiting months for a tf700+++ whatever as something newer and better is always around the corner.
There are only 2 real tablets on the market now -- iPad and Prime. Others suck it's nothing to be comparable. You can wait a little for the new Acer tablet though.
Your choice
just send it in for an RMA. OG transformer too outdated now. its multimedia capabilities are nothing compared to prime. those crashes you mention sound like more of a software thing. have you tried a fresh reboot? are you on the latest firmware? have you tried a factory reset? etc......
Thanks for the replies
I did try a factory reset about 3 weeks ago. I'm running stock everything with the .21 update. I've tried the uninstalling of flash, different web browsers, etc. I had it just bomb out and restart playing a .flv video off my microsd card this morning. Its a c1 model and I see the whispers that the newer c3 ones are having less bt/wifi streaming issues. I'm also considering asking them to replace this model with one of the newer ones. I'm just worried with no concrete proof or word from Asus that these newer batches are in fact changed for better performance, I may end up in the same situation and lose the option for the refund.
Just return it, the Prime is a joke and no amount of RMA'ing is gonna fix its design flaws.
The A510 is released in the US, 32GB and Tegra 3 for $450. Personally I had such problems with my original prime that I couldnt stand it anymore, I'm on the fence about buyin the 510 or waiting for the A710 with the display. We'll see how long I can hold back my thirst for a gadget
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The A510 is released in the US, 32GB and Tegra 3 for $450. Personally I had such problems with my original prime that I couldnt stand it anymore, I'm on the fence about buyin the 510 or waiting for the A710 with the display. We'll see how long I can hold back my thirst for a gadget
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I am just feeling like you and I did take the plunge and my A510 should arrive from Amazon later today .
oooo let me know how it goes when u get it, i have 9 hours to order it on amazon if i want it by tomorrow with my free amazon prime for students I'll check back often
Screwedupsmitty said:
oooo let me know how it goes when u get it, i have 9 hours to order it on amazon if i want it by tomorrow with my free amazon prime for students I'll check back often
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I will let you know as soon as I get it and start playing with it.
Update: Well my Acer A510 came in this morning and I have been playing with it for a while and so far wifi is strong, gps works perfectly used it as I returned from San Diego to my home in Orange County and it always stayed locked onto at least 16 satellites and the build quality feels solid I am very happy that I made the purchase and I also bought this BT keyboard that was made for the Galaxy Tab but will fit my A510 perfectly also: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0069WH2OA/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details. Also I did already root it using the rooting kit found on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531646
I will still use my Prime, but I will also let my kids use it to play games on it.