We have three options.. the second being most probable.
One:
I've spent the better part of the last few days trying to figure out how to root this device. I've gotten down to the fact that we can add most .zip files into our recovery and it'll try to run them.
Sadly.. they are all unsigned (except for the asus official ones) as i do not have the private key and i've searched with a hex editor on that zip for ANY clues for many hours.. i have given up hope on that. We need to get an unlocked BL that allows unsigned APKs.. or the key..then i could create an app to just make it so much easier! but alas..
Second Option
Pray the devs at androidroot.mobi want to work on the TP and get NVFLASH working. This is the most probable way..it would allow custom roms to be flashed.. to which we have incorporated root.. then we could throw CWM into the recovery partition and we're golden
Third Option
Someone another hole (like the gingerbreak method) is found in ICS
Anyone else heard anything?
I read the blog at androidroot.mobi, and I am not encouraged.
No one gives me grief if I OC my home PC, no one says anything about any warranty being voided if I install my own software, and that's even on the closed architecture brand names (HP, Compaq, Dell, etc) if I'm stupid enough to buy one.
So I see this as nothing but a power/money grab by this industry. Sure, all other mobile devices have had proprietary, closed source, OSs on them until Android.
But it's not that way any more. And I'm seriously wondering if a class action lawsuit can set this straight.
Screw saying "Mother, may I?" on something I paid $500 or more for. Or paid $10 or less for, for that matter. It's a matter of principle at this point.
They are in a particularly weak position on a wifi tablet; at least they could argue for phones that carriers were subsidising them and wanted control for that reason, but there's little case for it here. The RazorClaw exploit should have been fixed since it could have been used for malware, but flashing new firmware is a pretty deliberate act. I'm sure the objections are that they don't want to support devices bricked by tinkering, but I imagine most would be fine with that being considered to be at your own risk.
HTC show that it's possible for companies to be persuaded to unlock the bootloader, of course, if there's enough pressure... not saying that's necessarily likely with Asus though.
I really hope this can be resolved or these guys are able to find a way around it again. It seems really silly why I can't load whatever I want on it...
I just purchased one of these and if it can't rooted and rom'd, I guess it'll be going back to BestBuy.
we still have to give it time. this product literally just rolled out. also add to the fact that its very hard to get one since in such high demand. have to give developers/hackers time to mess around with this. it hasn't even really been a full 2 weeks since anyone had this in their possession. with a device as powerful as this, we can count on root being available sooner than later. once it does, would be well worth the wait. 4 overclocked cores to 1.8-2Ghz a piece or more oh the joys...lol optimized roms, optimized/increased power on GPU CM9
It's the latest and greatest android device on the market.... if it doesn't get root something is very wrong lol
My SGSII HercuDom needs more w00t. It always needs more w00t!
So this is my first foray into the android tablet scene, but been using android phones for awhile now. Does the TFP have an encrypted bootloader?
Cm9 would/will be sweet but I'd flip for a tab opted miui rom on the prime.
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Cm9 would/will be sweet but I'd flip for a tab opted miui rom on the prime.
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Initially, my reaction to MIUI was "if I wanted that interface, I'd buy a product with iOS". But then I used it on my phone for a while, and was completely sold. The battery life was astounding on my Thunderbolt. The *huge* amount of themes available for MIUI, all of which change the entire aspect of the interface (not just icons and the dock), really sold me. Plus, it was smoother than any other ROM I had tried to date, including CM7.
I would be absolutely stoked to have MIUI running on the Prime...
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It's a matter of principle at this point.
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Exactly. (I don't know about a class action suit but...)
This is my machine. If I want to change the name of a folder I should be allowed to. I want to see all files. Don't hide them from me. I am an admin of my own devices and I don't appreciate being treated like a luser.
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we still have to give it time. this product literally just rolled out. also add to the fact that its very hard to get one since in such high demand. have to give developers/hackers time to mess around with this. it hasn't even really been a full 2 weeks since anyone had this in their possession. with a device as powerful as this, we can count on root being available sooner than later. once it does, would be well worth the wait. 4 overclocked cores to 1.8-2Ghz a piece or more oh the joys...lol optimized roms, optimized/increased power on GPU CM9
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+1 cm9 on this device overclocked to 2.0 = mind f**ked
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+1 cm9 on this device overclocked to 2.0 = mind f**ked
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I'm drooling over the thought of overclocking this quad-core to 2.0ghz. Will need some way of having a permanant charging cable connected though .
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I'm drooling over the thought of overclocking this quad-core to 2.0ghz. Will need some way of having a permanant charging cable connected though .
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Depends how the room is optimized will certainly need battery tweaks and such but yes I'm drooling over it to
i dont know much about the rooting with androod devices but is there anything really different about the prime that qould make it more difficult to root then other devices? And if so has there been any other devices like it before thats been able to get rooted?
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i dont know much about the rooting with androod devices but is there anything really different about the prime that qould make it more difficult to root then other devices? And if so has there been any other devices like it before thats been able to get rooted?
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Secure boot loader which seems to handle all of the writing to system partitions. but there isn't much info about. It's not clear to me what level of escalation is possible at all without finding exploits.
Has anyone tried to root with Razorclaw and then install Voodoo OTA RootKeeper before the update?
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Has anyone tried to root with Razorclaw and then install Voodoo OTA RootKeeper before the update?
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Before the update it was rootable after the update its not
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Has anyone tried to root with Razorclaw and then install Voodoo OTA RootKeeper before the update?
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Quite a few posts about this. Been tired, only work son select few Primes that had shipped to reviewers and other lucky few. As far as we know all Primes sold now are shipping with OTA that is not rootable.
On TF101 you could install older update in order to make it rootable. But I suppose if there was none before the (yet) unrootable one, there is no update to try it. I'm not goint to buy a device with Android that is not rootable. Especially now when ICS is open sourced.
we dont have any older updates available for us
the update patched the method it was using to root in the first place
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The Evo already got it, and im sure the incredible is almost there. Whats wrong with the Eris? And what Hboot are those two devices running?
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The Evo already got it, and im sure the incredible is almost there. Whats wrong with the Eris? And what Hboot are those two devices running?
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uuuummm what r u talkin about ? im confused , the eris is already rooted ,atleast if u have 1.5 u can root it or the 2.1 ota i belie ve u can too
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uuuummm what r u talkin about ? im confused , the eris is already rooted ,atleast if u have 1.5 u can root it or the 2.1 ota i belie ve u can too
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I thought it would be obvious that im talking about the leaked versions
it's just attention has been diverted that's all. if all the devs were working on rooting those leaks I have no doubt in my mind it would have already been, or very close to being rooted, but as it stands, most devs already have root on their phones so they arent as focused to rooting anymore, just providing more things already rooted phones. I'm sure there are some more devso ut there trying everyday to root it, but without as many, or as much work into it, it's going to be quite a while to get there.
I was looking into it myself, until my trackball stopped working and I got a replacement phone, so I guess I could be to blame as well for this.
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it's just attention has been diverted that's all. if all the devs were working on rooting those leaks I have no doubt in my mind it would have already been, or very close to being rooted, but as it stands, most devs already have root on their phones so they arent as focused to rooting anymore, just providing more things already rooted phones. I'm sure there are some more devso ut there trying everyday to root it, but without as many, or as much work into it, it's going to be quite a while to get there.
I was looking into it myself, until my trackball stopped working and I got a replacement phone, so I guess I could be to blame as well for this.
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devs are def. working on the issue. problem is, it's a no paying job.
I dont get the whole point in calling Android open source software if they have to lock our phones so we cant do anything. if we screw it up thats our fault so i dont see the problem
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devs are def. working on the issue. problem is, it's a no paying job.
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Yes, I recognized that some are still working on it, I just said that attention has been diverted greatly. do you think releasing an ad blocker, various roms, overclocking, froyo, live wallpapers, aosp/jit support they were busy trying to root at the same time? of course not, you can only do so much at once, and attention to rooting has shifted greatly. have they forgot about it completely? hell no! they just put it on the backburners.
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I dont get the whole point in calling Android open source software if they have to lock our phones so we cant do anything. if we screw it up thats our fault so i dont see the problem
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google and android being open source has nothing to do with it. it's the carriers who prefer to lock down the phones.
A to keep the general public out of things that could hurt. could you imagine any old lady picking up an android phone and overclocking and the SU app, and all the other tools were there? it'd either destroy her phone when she messes with it, or left alone entirely because she doesnt know what they do. eitherway? they become pointless to have on the phone.
B to keep users out of things that cost more money. did you know you have to actually pay verizon an extra addition on your bill to unlock tethering on the phones they allow tethering on? by having root, we can tether without them knowing on phones that don't usually have tethering and we can do it without paying for it. it's not exactly something they want going on, so they lock the phones down.
C safety. Having root access on our phone gives apps a lot more things to control, and with such, if anything malicious gets on our phone, it can do more damage on a root user then a locked down phone.
so take the nexus one for instance, if you bought that through google, not a wireless provider, it still has root on it for the first and last reasons I mentioned. to keep the general public out of things they don't need to be getting into/understand how to control. and with the safety lockdown, the average person who goes "oh what's this?" *click* on a malicious app doesnt get that chance.
it's not about keeping us out, it's about making the service providers happy, and keeping the general public safe.
google has put into android a very simple way to get root access for us all, it's the phone hardware (and their custom software additions) and the service providers that make it harder and harder to get into the system.
makes sense, but safe from what? its a phone... it wont kill you
buttttt how would you go about getting a pre rooted nexus one even if you dont have t mobile and just want the phone?
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makes sense, but safe from what? its a phone... it wont kill you
buttttt how would you go about getting a pre rooted nexus one even if you dont have t mobile and just want the phone?
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No the phone wont hurt you, just your pocket when the average person, who knows zip about what they are doing with a rooted phone totally bricks the phone and has to buy a new one, at full retail price. Or perhaps they load up a app that causes major issues with the phone, causing it to lock up/fail. again hurting the pocket book by having to buy a new phone at retail price.
I'm not trying to be a **** here but I'm fairly certain that when any of us load anything onto the phone we're aware of the risks it could bring, I would hope you went into this with the same mentality.
that is what we are saying, anying who can make an account on XDA, actually, anyone who has even HEARD of xda is probably smart enough to not do any brick-inducing stupid moves.
I'm talking about the average person who doesnt know the difference between RAM and ROM here, it's locked down to protect them from their own dumb moves.
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I'm not trying to be a **** here but I'm fairly certain that when any of us load anything onto the phone we're aware of the risks it could bring, I would hope you went into this with the same mentality.
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thats exactly what im trying to say. if we screw up our phones that our own fault so i dont see why we should worry about others who brick their phones and end up buying new ones. thats their fault and they can deal with it
(now because i said that if im ever able to root ill probably brick my phone trying) karma sucks...
but still.
... give us a copy of Bootloader unlocker!
Pleeeeeeeaseeeeeeee
They have a bootloader unlocker? I thought they were just going to system restores and stuff like that. Getting anything they have would be a huge benefit to the community.
To any of you B&N employee's if you don't feel comfortable publicly posting that stuff just pm a dev or really anyone on here you feel like. I'm sure lots of us wouldn't mind being the middle man(myself included).
…if you were work for Barnes & Noble, you're in less of a position to help anyone than we are.
What are you expecting, exactly? Someone to leak a signing key and they lose their job for a $250 tablet?
As a consumer, the best thing you can do is not buy the Nook Tablet. It's the best way to send a message to B&N.
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As a consumer, the best thing you can do is not buy the Nook Tablet. It's the best way to send a message to B&N.
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YES!
Spot on!
come on! Who doesn't want to participate in a little corporate espionage?
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As a consumer, the best thing you can do is not buy the Nook Tablet. It's the best way to send a message to B&N.
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Yeah us android geeks not buying the ipad has really helped to make them realize to make their stuff more open and less commie.
By not buying and being silent, how is Barnes and noble going to get the message. Companies are far more likely to listen to paying customers. Remember nowadays XDA is a amazing resource for manufacturers. How many articles have been written about breakthroughs developers made at XDA. Thats free publicity and free development for them.
I am sure Barnes and noble pays somebody to check this forum, and others. That is why I suggested that i somebody wanted to leak something they could anonymously PM somebody on here and get it out that way.
B&N: get the message
I second and third and fourth that. B&N has two markets for their product, and if they purposefully make it very difficult to root the device, they are going to lose one of those markets. I'd buy a Nook tablet tomorrow if I were comfortable with being able to achieve a clean install of a rooted image, but without that, I'll likely go to another device. It would be a shame.
As mentioned before... the XDA crowd is not likely the market for this device due to the fact that the device is most likely lost leading.... It's in no way the interest of BN to provide any of the tools for you to do this.
Don't believe me? Look at the current sideloading situation... People are already on the Android/Amazon markets which technically means money out of BN's coffers...
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I second and third and fourth that. B&N has two markets for their product, and if they purposefully make it very difficult to root the device, they are going to lose one of those markets. I'd buy a Nook tablet tomorrow if I were comfortable with being able to achieve a clean install of a rooted image, but without that, I'll likely go to another device. It would be a shame.
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In all reality they didn't make it hard to root at all. Root was achieved by modifying usb drivers and using a known exploit. B&N had plenty of time to lock this tablet down way more than it is. Even sideloading is super easy. The bootloader is another matter all together, still I have a feeling somebody will find a simple workaround
>In all reality they didn't make it hard to root at all.
I don't think B&N had much to do with the low-level stuff, just the top-level design. The locked bootloader as has been said was likely for Netflix HD cert, since OMAP4 already had that feature. They didn't need to do anything extra. Otherwise, it's the same custom layer on top of 2.x.
The NT even retained the 1GB user-space which is a carryover from NC. Some modicum of sense would've shown that you don't need 12GB for app space, and would've avoided the bad reviews. Per Occam's Razor, don't attribute malice when incompetence will do.
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What are you expecting, exactly? Someone to leak a signing key and they lose their job for a $250 tablet?
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Quoted for truth. The M-Shield security setup that is locking down the bootloader uses a one-time-programmable e-fuse inside the cpu so that the key it's looking for or the logic to do so can never be reprogrammed. Unless I missing something in their setup I don't see how a bootloader unlocker would be possible. Instead they would have to give use their private key to sign our own files
The more I read about the locked bootloader, the more I regret purchasing the tablet. They have, however, made some promising progress with this tablet, and I haven't heard anyone say definitively that it is not possible to bypass this obstacle.
For the record, is the kindle fire's bootloader locked?
Im looking into the different tab options out there currently. I've used ipad2 extensively at work and the device is very "nice" but so typically apple in its predictive samey apple experience im after something a little more exiciting . (I.e cyanogen on an awesome tablet! )
Im interested to know what members in the Samsung tab section of XDA have to say.
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16GB $389 ($429 - $40 instant rebate) at Costco plus you get a free OEM Samsung Pouch. Just picked one up today.
Buy Galaxy Tab 10.1
Yes! I recommend if you crave for all the excitement of rooting and playing around with the tablet as you mentioned the CM9 developments of the ICS for the GT P7500/7510 are pretty exciting...... Beware though that this can be addicting,, waiting each night for some thing more
SS
If you can wait, wait till the MWC which is happening this month end. As per the rumors Samsung will unveil the new version of this tab. So the current tab will get a price cut or you can opt for the new version.
No
Just say NO to locked hardware.
Don't listen to people who tell you to relax and that you can still do x,y,z,
Samsung won't let you do 1,2,3.
With unlocked hardware you can take risks and recover.
More people willing to take risks means a larger dev community.
A larger dev community is good for you.
With unlocked hardware you can actually own what you paid for.
The same people who will tell you to relax and accept limited ownership will themselves admit that if they sold an unlocked tablet on ebay they would ask for more money and advertise the fact that it's unlocked. This means that when Samsung OTA locked all of those unlocked tablets they actually took something of monetary value -and didn't even try to justify it. Asus customers raised up a storm and at least got a promise. Samsung got a pass...I think a little of that is that people already bought the tab and no one wants to feel like a chump.
My advice is to wait and see on Asus' promise of unlocking the Prime. In the meantime don't encourage bad behavior by buying a Samsung product.
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Just say NO to locked hardware.
Don't listen to people who tell you to relax and that you can still do x,y,z,
Samsung won't let you do 1,2,3.
With unlocked hardware you can take risks and recover.
More people willing to take risks means a larger dev community.
A larger dev community is good for you.
With unlocked hardware you can actually own what you paid for.
The same people who will tell you to relax and accept limited ownership will themselves admit that if they sold an unlocked tablet on ebay they would ask for more money and advertise the fact that it's unlocked. This means that when Samsung OTA locked all of those unlocked tablets they actually took something of monetary value -and didn't even try to justify it. Asus customers raised up a storm and at least got a promise. Samsung got a pass...I think a little of that is that people already bought the tab and no one wants to feel like a chump.
My advice is to wait and see on Asus' promise of unlocking the Prime. In the meantime don't encourage bad behavior by buying a Samsung product.
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do you mean locked = unrooted or locked = stuck with a provider?
Anyway, rooting the device is pretty easy and, if you can't do it, you should stay away from custom rom (and anything android, for that matter)
When it's rooted, well, the fun starts! Samsung provide very good hardware and the latest price cut is realy apealing! I got mine 2 weeks ago for 399$ can, for all it gives, it's pretty descent! IMHO, the quality to price ratio is pretty much the best!
But if you can wait after the annoucement for the new thing, you should get it for even less!
I also recommend you the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, i have mine till 2 weeks and i loooooove it !
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Cm9 kang. OC'ed. Wicked OEM Samsung book cover case. This is no apple.
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Im looking into the different tab options out there currently. I've used ipad2 extensively at work and the device is very "nice" but so typically apple in its predictive samey apple experience im after something a little more exiciting . (I.e cyanogen on an awesome tablet! )
Im interested to know what members in the Samsung tab section of XDA have to say.
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Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 is what u need
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do you mean locked = unrooted or locked = stuck with a provider?
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Unbelievable. I mean I don't believe you. You must know I meant neither. Or are you saying you aren't aware that Samsung sold unlocked galaxy tablets then locked them OTA? Or that you don't understand what is meant here?
With unlocked hardware you can take risks and recover.
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We've gone from locking down phones to locking down general purpose devices that are analogous to laptops. No one would currently tolerate a laptop that can't flash BIOS or uses encryption to permanently lock you in to an OS, but that is exactly where we will be if people apathetically/sheepishly accept this. Any device with a locked bootloader should be rejected generally, and more specifically buying this tablet rewards unethical behavior (permanently and irrevocably locking people out of their own property months after purchase).
I stand by my recommendation. Wait and see if Asus follows through and delivers an unlock tool and if they do, get a Prime. Myself, I'm dumping this on some chump at ebay and getting a tablet I can own 100% instead of 90%.
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Unbelievable. I mean I don't believe you. You must know I meant neither. Or are you saying you aren't aware that Samsung sold unlocked galaxy tablets then locked them OTA? Or that you don't understand what is meant here?
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I understand squat from what you're trying to tell here...
What exactly do you mean by "locked"?
Most tablets, PDA's and the likes comes pre-loaded with an OS, even netbook or notebook for that matters, even worst for apple's device, wich are "locked" in more ways than anything.
As for Galaxy's, you can put about everything you want with either Odin or with the SDK tools, how is the device "locked" and how is any other (like Asus') are less locked...
It is the same for any PC's, you need special tools to flash the bios, same as you need Odin to flash a bootloader. You can root the OS and be "unlocked" everywhere on the OS layer, open a terminal emulator and do about anything that can be done to a device running an U/X kernel (or the likes)
So, again, how is the Galaxy Tab locked?
The boot loader is locked, keeping him from doing specific things. That we can put various android ROMs on it while still having the locked boot loader is not the issue.
As I understand it people with locked boot loaders cannot use nvflash and must either odin or cwm flash things; believe it or not that does in fact limit things that you can flash. Specifically what I can't say for certain because it's not something of interest to me and obviously not of interest to you either otherwise you'd have uncovered this limitation as well.
Like me, most people looking to flash custom builds on the tab are looking for android based builds like CM9 which are obviously doable on the otherwise locked tab. Rlarkin's point is valid but based on the amount of activity here in the development forum I'd venture to guess he's in the minority as he has needs that go beyond many of those who purchase the device.
We're all free to voice our opinions, it's up the the OP to decide whether or not the locked boot loader is an issue. For most of us it's not.
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I understand squat from what you're trying to tell here...
What exactly do you mean by "locked"?
Most tablets, PDA's and the likes comes pre-loaded with an OS, even netbook or notebook for that matters, even worst for apple's device, wich are "locked" in more ways than anything.
As for Galaxy's, you can put about everything you want with either Odin or with the SDK tools, how is the device "locked" and how is any other (like Asus') are less locked...
It is the same for any PC's, you need special tools to flash the bios, same as you need Odin to flash a bootloader. You can root the OS and be "unlocked" everywhere on the OS layer, open a terminal emulator and do about anything that can be done to a device running an U/X kernel (or the likes)
So, again, how is the Galaxy Tab locked?
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Well, after reading about your so called "locked", how is it relevant to the OP?
The bootloader lock seems to affect only a small fraction of the users, IE: The one that wants imperatively to use NVFlash instead of Odin. Most of the users will do whatever they want with the stock tab, a fraction of the users will flash custom roms, on that fraction, only another small fraction will use tools like Odin, SDKs and more advanced tools, on that fraction, only another small fraction will "need" NVflash.
To conclude, you shouldn't base your recomendation on what YOU need, but rather on what the person asking the question needs. So, if the OP wants to flash using NvFlash, then he shouldn't buy this device. But if you want custom roms, CM9 or many other things that doesn't require this specific tool, well, IMHO, it's a pretty nice device!
I just got my galaxy tab yesterday after returning my transformer prime and am very happy with it. Already rooted it and have romans build on it it runs amazing.
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With a locked boot loader, if you make the wrong mistake, you . are . done . Brick.
With an unlocked bootloader you can recover. What's that worth to you? How many potential devs don't try something because of the risk involved? What's that mean to you (someone not really interested in development)? It means less cool stuff for you.
With a locked boot loader you can basically achieve "root" and be able to install applications like sshd or anyconnect that *should already work anyway*. By that I mean no one should have to jump through a single hoop to get something so basic as ssh or a vpn client to work on a device like this, this is *not* a phone.
But you can't (way too risky to even think about) repartition, have true dual boot, or experiment with many other things.
So I don't think I'm being selfish in my recommendation. Unlocked bootloaders mean more devs that are able to do more things for *you*. Supporting vendors that sell locked hardware hurts everyone in the end, you included. As I said in my original post, would you buy a laptop that via encryption locks you in solidly to one OS? I don't think anyone would today, but that's where we'll all be eventually if people continue to tolerate this. I mean why should the existence of a touch screen make it okay to lock me out of my own tablet? It shouldn't.
Really a tegra3 + unlocked -GPS vs tegra2 + locked is a no brainer in my opinion. The OP will have more options with the Prime.
I would really not recommend the prime many ppl including me are and were having major problems with it. the wifi is completely screwed up in it, and unless u can solder and take it apart I recommend not wasting ur money I had it 10 days don't get me wrong its a great piece of equipment actually its unbelievable but the wifi, GPS, and Bluetooth drivers and hardware are not there it really is a shame.
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I wouldn't recommend the tab 10.1 for your case
I'm using it now. It feels just langgy.
I love android, I have sgs2 as my phone and the sgs2 is way smoother.
But the same couldn't be said for the tab10.1.
Its actually just a big LG optimus 2x, the same lausy processor.
Lots of games lags.
After I flash to overcome rom, things improved, but still slower and less smooth compared to I pad.
Basic things like the text entry also slow.
At any text entry, the keyboard always takes a small lag to appear. Most obvious in browser.
I still will choose the tab over the ipad2.
But since you are coming from ipad2, recommend you buy galaxy tab 7.7 or 7 plus.
These 2 uses the exynos chip set similar to sgs 2. Very powerful gpu.
If u try tab 10.1 or 8.9, sure you will be frustrated by the occational lag.
Just being honest.
PS: I still love my tab.
I haven't been on the galaxy tab 10.1 long but I know one thing from experience so far that this tablet on Romans rom is just as fast and maybe less laggy than the stock transformer prime which I am shocked by. I am now asking myself why I didn't buy this before when it came out instead of waiting all I can say is wooooooooow
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Has anyone been able to root the new Asus Transformer yet? I've tried all the one-click methods but none of them worked.
There's no dedicated forum yet too the TF701, so thought I would ask here...
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As it is not available at the moment in a lot of countries: No at the moment. But there is an app to unlock Bootloader and the Kernel Source Code to download directly from Asus website, so I am hoping it will come soon
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As it is not available at the moment in a lot of countries: No at the moment. But there is an app to unlock Bootloader and the Kernel Source Code to download directly from Asus website, so I am hoping it will come soon
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Yeah, i hope someone will be able to root it too soon.
Alta1r said:
Yeah, i hope someone will be able to root it too soon.
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yes, would be great.
At the moment i help me with deactivation from apps i didnt use.
Its funny that it has been released so fast in germany, i ordered it on amazon at the 15th and got it on the next friday, very fast.
I would buy one of these in an instant, if it had root
HitBobLer said:
I would buy one of these in an instant, if it had root
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I bought one. Great little tablet, but i do wish it was rooted.
Root wanted
rschalie said:
I bought one. Great little tablet, but i do wish it was rooted.
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Same thing. Please, make a root for the device!
antareus_ said:
Same thing. Please, make a root for the device!
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First thing would be to get a tf701t forum. I am getting one of these or the new nexus 10, depending on development for this. If there is any seriousdevelopment by Xmas, then iI'll get one, if not it get the nexus.
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First thing would be to get a tf701t forum. I am getting one of these or the new nexus 10, depending on development for this. If there is any seriousdevelopment by Xmas, then iI'll get one, if not it get the nexus.
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I just drove to New York yesterday to buy the TF701T and I must say that this version is like night and day compared to the TF700T. It is very snappy out of the box whereas the TF700T was sluggish and slow before I actually unlocked the boot loader and put cyanogenmod on it. For the TF701T, I will probably root it just for SU but I will probably keep the stock Rom because it is really smooth.
qnvy82 said:
I just drove to New York yesterday to buy the TF701T and I must say that this version is like night and day compared to the TF700T. It is very snappy out of the box whereas the TF700T was sluggish and slow before I actually unlocked the boot loader and put cyanogenmod on it. For the TF701T, I will probably root it just for SU but I will probably keep the stock Rom because it is really smooth.
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Agreed, I just received my TF701 from Amazon yesterday and right out of the box it blows my TF700 out of the water. Barely any slowdown while downloading and installing apps whereas the 700 would grind to a halt. Dock arriving today, hopefully Asus solved the dock battery draining issue as well. Root would be nice for apps like Titanium Backup but this is my first Android device - and I've owned a lot of them - that I might be happy with totally stock.
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Has anyone been able to root the new Asus Transformer yet? I've tried all the one-click methods but none of them worked.
There's no dedicated forum yet too the TF701, so thought I would ask here...
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Mine is Rooted, with CWM Recovery. And it was actually a simple procedure.
I can tell you that before you even think about proceeding, you will need to have your device unlocked. That can be found at Asus's web site. In their download section, I'm sure.
Next, you'll need to make sure that your PC/Laptop can see your device. My Win7 setup saw it already as a "K00C", or some such thing, but if yours doesn't, then get the "Sync" util from Asus and install it on your PC. It'll install the drivers with it. But then go back and uninstall the Sync util. The drivers will be left on your system.
Before connecting your device, make sure to disable all Anti-Virus, Anti-Mal/Spyware from any and all Real Time scanning. Also completely disable any and all firewalls you have installed. If you haven't installed any, then guess what? Windows Firewall is still running, so disable it!
You will also need to use a USB 2.0 and not 3.0 port on your computer to connect your device to. Why? I don't know man, just do it!
Do NOT connect your device yet! You're just getting ready here!
Next you'll need the little mini ADB &FastBoot setup. You're going to have to use that to do it (it's in the video where to get it and how to use it). If he doesn't tell you where to get it from in the video, then I think this guy has a link to it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516215
Heck, maybe that's where I got it from. I just remember that it's the "mini" version. The "just needed stuff" one.
Then go and watch the video in the link below. It's too wordy and doesn't even tell you what web sites he's looking at, so really, who cares what Josh would do (you'll get that later)?
In fact, maybe I got tired of the video and just found the guys page that I linked to above and followed that and that's where the "who cares what Josh would do" joke sticks in my head. That does sound more logical. <lol>
Either way, read through this and try that guys page, or the video first. I do know that by doing what I said in this message and using one of those two sources, you WILL get Rooted! That's a FACT! I'm sorry about this. It's just that it's been a couple of weeks since I did it and I didn't write it all down like I should have.
But here's the web sites he's looking at in the video (have them already open before starting the video):
CWM Page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621051
CWM File: http://droidbasement.com/asus/tf701t/recovery/
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IBN1YkBp3g
Now there's stuff I'm missing in here. I probably didn't bookmark everything, but whatever I missed here, was in the video, so don't worry.
Note: Someone mentioned somewhere about keeping Recovery intact when installing a ROM, or a reset, etc.. CWM has a setting for that. It keeps the recovery intact through that stuff. I remember it kept staying on me one time when I wanted to go back to factory to sell the device and then I went into the settings and saw that one, which is enabled by default, so don't worry about that anymore.
One thing; It says in the video that you have to be at JB 4.3 first. That's correct, so update. There is one available through your device's "Software Update" thingy.
One thing that is incorrect, is when he says; "You must be at such and such version of this thing" (whatever it was), which is related to your version of JB 4.3. Yours won't be. Now yer scared, uh?
Don't worry about that. It's not true! It'll work just fine! Mine did. That was probably just what the version was when they developed this thing and so they're playing it safe. I don't blame them, but how can anyone know that it "must" be, when newer versions of JB 4.3 (huh?) hadn't come out yet. No need to scare people. Just say as far as you know.... but who knows for future revisions of the OS, right?
Anyway, this'll get ya through it, if you can deal with Josh's wordiness. Just be patient, he gets there. But you do have to take some of what he says with a grain of salt, like any of what you watch/read. My rule as a tech is, if it doesn't make sense, then it's probably wrong.
Hope this helps. And you didn't have to "Read! Read! Read!". That never gets you anywhere. You just end up reading a bunch of threads full of messages by people looking for help and others responding by telling them to read. And if you're lucky, you always end up at that one post that actually has the help you need. So why not just point people there in the first place? When that doesn't happen, XDA and other sites just end up cluttered with threads that delay people from getting help, instead of pointing them to help, which is what they were looking for in the first place, right?
Don't get me wrong, I love to read! And I encourage everyone to do the same! I'm just saying, with all due respect, reading a bunch of threads full of nothing but pleas for help and "read, read, read", is not learning. It's just noise. Unnecessary static. And threads with 70 pages of that doesn't help anyone, now does it?
I'm no saint, but this is my only post in this thread. And now there won't be 100 more messages containing "Help!!!" and "Read! Read! Read!".
The heck with that! I just want my device Rooted now! Hahaha!
If I forgot anything in here, just lemme know. I'll try to find it again. Or maybe I have the file. If you don't hear back from me, just PM me or something. I'm not on here all that much, but that will send me an alert or something, I'm sure. I think? Oh well, try it.
The biggest thing is, just don't let your fear of bricking your device overwhelm you. I have to say, that even though I never used any of this stuff before (meaning ADB & FastBoot & "pushing") and I was quite nervous, it actually was, looking back at it, a really simple procedure! So use my hindsight to hammer down that fear and Root, my son, root! <lol>
A month ago I sold all of my tablets and have bought the Wacom Cintiq Companion Hybrid.
Primarily verifiable need for it to work. But since I now possessed no other tablet, I quickly found that my root right for certain things missing for recreational use. To use the Sixaxis app for example.
So I wanted to ask here if maybe a developer have already dealt with it, to root the device.
Would be really happy.
sorry for my english, my best friend is google translate
regards
Alex
It's pretty much a Raw Android Tablet and should work with anything in the play store. No one seems to be looking in to doing anything with this tablet since it's so expensive and it's made for such a specific use. I asked questions about it for months and no one acknowledged me about it.
Sinsecond said:
A month ago I sold all of my tablets and have bought the Wacom Cintiq Companion Hybrid.
Primarily verifiable need for it to work. But since I now possessed no other tablet, I quickly found that my root right for certain things missing for recreational use. To use the Sixaxis app for example.
So I wanted to ask here if maybe a developer have already dealt with it, to root the device.
Would be really happy.
sorry for my english, my best friend is google translate
regards
Alex
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Tablet malfunctioned and I lost some files. Would love to be able to use a recovery program to get them back (need root to do so).
Test this https://github.com/linux-shield/shield-root/blob/master/README.md
Use adb reboot bootloader
Test unlock bootloader only
Sorry for my bad english
Any news ?
c4b4l3 said:
Test this ...
Use adb reboot bootloader
Test unlock bootloader only
Sorry for my bad english
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Sorry to revive the thread but since I am considering buying one.
Did any one try to root it with success ?
JediRemi said:
Sorry to revive the thread but since I am considering buying one.
Did any one try to root it with success ?
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I find it unlikely that anyone who owns it has tried rooting the CCH yet, Myself included. Of course, I am tempted to root it, but I wouldn't do it until I am sure I can restore everything in case it messes up. The android system recovery that comes with the tablet has no commands for the user, so even a custom recovery would be required to backup/restore. It's not exactly an easily replacable tablet, and the device is quite expensive after all. The reason I am tempted to root is not related to wacom and their tech at all, but once you have root, you end up wanting it across your devices. Unless you want root for a specific app, and unless you're ABSOLUTELY sure that app can benefit from the cintiq, I wouldn't take the risk that comes with trying to root.
That said, you will not be disappointed with the tablet without root, it really is a cintiq on the go, as well as a Tegra 4 android tablet. Really rock solid performance, excellent battery life( I actually did clock 12 hours straight on high performance), and pretty much pure android without any fancy changes.
Maybe I'll succumb and try to root someday, but that's a remote possibility. Unless I end up damaging it somehow, and replacement seems inevitable, in which case I'll try it before replacing.
This is Wacom's reply to an enquiry about rooting: http://forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=15901
This is a nearly two-year-old thread, but now that I have my own CCH thanks to a bit of luck on eBay, I should report that yes, you CAN root it!
Wacom's complete negligence in updating it does have one benefit: towelroot still works due to the old January 2014-dated kernel, but you need towelroot v1 and not v3 as currently offered on towelroot.com. I figured this out when I looked up other Tegra 4-based systems and how well towelroot worked on those.
From there on, just let SuperSU update the binary, and then you're good.
I feel like this is just the beginning of figuring out how to update the CCH to a recent version of Android, since Wacom themselves have been even less than useless with properly supporting it during its lifespan and have now discontinued it with no pretense of further support. @aniruddhahar, you with me here? We both know what this thing's capable of if they'd just updated it past Jelly Bean, and with Android N on the horizon and finally baking multi-window into base AOSP, the timing couldn't be better!
This is indeed some heartening news, thanks @NamelessFragger ! The CCH hardware checks out to run at least lollipop/marshmallow, and frankly I'd be happy to even get past Jelly Bean to KK or Lollipop. However, the problem is the role the CCH plays at work. It's easy to replace a smartphone or a tablet, but a damaged Cintiq could mean 1000-2000 USD for replacement. Having said that, I'll be trying to root it at least. But unless we get some info about the hardware switch from android mode to desktop mode, I find it doubtful that we may be able to upgrade the device while still retaining the Cintiq capabilities which are vital to any CCH artist using the device in daily production work.
Also, I cannot find links to the v1 APK of towelroot anywhere. Could you please upload it here?
I wonder if this news should also be shared on the Wacom forums...
@aniruddhahar: I figure that's one of the major reasons the CCH dev scene is nonexistent - the likelihood that anyone who is willing to pay well over $1,000 for one of these things depends on it working reliably and without issue to make a living. Not only would it be expensive to replace, but the downtime until replacement is a major setback to an artist's livelihood who needs it to work.
It's not a toy - it's a tool, and one that can do something that almost no other tablet computer can do nearly as well as it does.
However, while Wacom doesn't feel like handing out the source code that would reveal whatever kernel modifications they made to make the monitor mode switch work, I have a feeling that with enough effort, we could reverse-engineer their implementation. The Tegra 4 sources for other devices like the NVIDIA Shield Portable is already floating around out there, and that could be a potential launching point for an updated Android ROM, even if it might take a while before we get the monitor mode switch going. We might even have pen digitizer-related sources from Samsung's various Galaxy Note products that may also help to a limited extent, differences in digitizers aside.
There's more important things to tackle before any custom ROM efforts, however, like getting a custom recovery set up so that we can easily flash Nandroid backups and future custom ROMs.
As things currently stand, I haven't seen Wacom put out any ROM images and PC-based flashing utilities like most other Android manufacturers, so unless your idea of a recovery is hard-dumping the NAND with an eMMC reader and hard-flashing it with a known good dump if your system becomes unbootable, tread carefully.
towelroot v1
any safe links to towelroot v1?
did you try v3 and it failed?
I am a dev... In fact, I'm working on a custom filesystem at work right now. I have a CCH and like many.. I find it difficult to look at knowing how awesome the hardware is and how Wacom abandoned it. I was doing everything with this unit... movies, video games, video conferencing, etc. I read comics, and holding the unit vertically makes for an excellent digital comic book experience.
It is, quite frankly, the best tablet experience I've ever had. And it's sitting there on Jellybean.
How close are we to pulling he trigger on a GPL violation submission? I understand they've "lost" the source?
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Would really like to see some progress here.
Did someone actually root the Hybrid with towelroot v1? Did we ever hear back from Wacom on getting the source?
They shut their forums down, unfortunately. This is really the only other thread on the internet discussing the cintiq hybrid. Such a shame.
-toad
I rooted my Hybrid last November, but I didn't use towelroot, so I can't speak to that method. I used KingoRoot v1.4.2 for PC. It's been a while (not to mention the long parade of root tools/apps that failed before that), so I don't remember exactly, step-by-step, how I originally did it.
In the hopes that this might help other Hybrid owners, I've scoured my Hybrid and computer for any related files, zipped them and posted a link below for posterity.
EDIT: Unfortunately, I mostly lurk here, and the site won't let me post outside links until I have at least 10 posts--which I don't--so I had to get creative with the urls. :\
Files I'm including:
KingoRoot Apk v1.9
com.kingoroot.com-2.apk
KingoRoot v1.4.2 for PC
android_root.exe
KingoUser Apk v2.0.5
KingoUser.apk
Kingo Android Root.url
The files are provided AS-IS. I make no guarantee that they won't blow up your device. If your device explodes into a barrage of radioactive shrapnel, I am NOT responsible. These files worked for me. They may not work for you, and I have no idea if newer updates work either. Your mileage may vary.
**TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK**
So... Doom and gloom aside...
dracolusus.com/xda-developers/devices/cintiq-companion-hybrid/cintiq-root.zip
You can visit KingoRoot's website here:
kingoapp.com/android-root.htm
I think I installed the PC program first, plugged the tablet into the comp, and the program pushed KingoUser.apk (SuperUser) to the device. I'm not sure about the KingoRoot apk, though; I may have downloaded it from the play store separately either before or after rooting, or it could have been pushed by the program too, but I don't remember now.
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I got my Companion Hybrid about a year ago, and was astonished that Wacom didn't even try to provide updates for the Cintiq. I love the thing, but there is no immersive mode, the notification bar crashes the UI sometimes, and whatever background I have set will reset to the default jelly bean one after about a week. It's infuriating that someone could put so little effort into providing stable software, but still lock out people who are willing to put the work in.
When I called Wacom's support about getting root access, the guy who helped me just said its not possible, that there will be no updates ever, and that Wacom no longer supports the Companion Hybrid at all beyond the 1-year replacement warranty.
My biggest complaint of all is that when the tablet is in Android mode all the hardware buttons are pretty much useless.
This is all just a big rant I guess, but I would LOVE to see this thing running Android 5 or 6. This tablet has so much untapped potential.
Slightly off-topic but CCH owners are very hard to track down and Wacom forums are down so cannot ask there. I recently acquired a CCH by pure luck but the previous owner reset it before sending and that wiped some fix to the camera that he had applied which means when I open camera app in Android mode it shows 'Cannot connect to Camera'. He swears there was a fix for this which he can no longer find.
I don't want to send it back but just trying my luck here to see if anyone knows of this issue and the possible fix? When connected to PC, the front camera works fine with Skype with notification blue LED and all..
Sorry if it is the wrong thread but since my new thread will probably not catch you attention I thought I will post here.
Thanks.
I wasn't aware of any camera issue, since my camera has always worked fine. I got mine second hand off e-bay, though, so maybe its original owner applied the fix. I didn't pay too close attention to whether or not it had been reset before being sent to me; I was more focused on getting it rooted.
I did a quick google search for the issue, but only this thread and some post about the Surface Pro camera app came up. If you could post some more info about it, I'll see if I can find any useful files on mine.
Hopefully, a more experienced user will grace us with their expertise...
Camera never worked on mine, any camera or gallery app just crashes. I got it off eBay on July 2014 and it was factory reset when I got. Did some firmware update using Wacom settings app but didn't fix camera.
As for original question: KingRoot (kingroot.net/tutorials) worked perfectly for me.
Me 2!
if anyone ever figures this out- please please email me! I use cch as my daily work tool and so disappointed from day one on the android mode. Thought I would be able to use it as a bring home, over coffee at Starbucks, hotel lobby art pad; but instead its locked in at work, poorly connected with its craptastic matrix like cable system, nearly immobile.
need to crack this egg [email protected]
I realize this is a bit old, but for anyone looking to do this, New King Root works just fine.
Sinsecond said:
A month ago I sold all of my tablets and have bought the Wacom Cintiq Companion Hybrid.
Primarily verifiable need for it to work. But since I now possessed no other tablet, I quickly found that my root right for certain things missing for recreational use. To use the Sixaxis app for example.
So I wanted to ask here if maybe a developer have already dealt with it, to root the device.
Would be really happy.
sorry for my english, my best friend is google translate
regards
Alex
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Any progress? I found this thread a few years ago and have waited for it to update lol
I've basically had mine since release, neither camera worked. It just crashes.
I still don't trust KingoRoot after all the reports of stealing IMEIs and other such data. towelroot is proven, and I'll toss up a Dropbox link for you all if needed. It's actually taken from an archived version of the site anyway.
http://web.archive.org/web/20140616011907/http://towelroot.com/
Both of my cameras work, though neither are particularly good in the image quality department. Not sure what to say there regarding the camera app crashing.
Also, I apologize for being many months late to this, but ever since the Wacom forums went down and this thread got buried, I didn't think I'd get in contact with the CCH community at large again:
cloudtoad said:
any safe links to towelroot v1?
did you try v3 and it failed?
I am a dev... In fact, I'm working on a custom filesystem at work right now. I have a CCH and like many.. I find it difficult to look at knowing how awesome the hardware is and how Wacom abandoned it. I was doing everything with this unit... movies, video games, video conferencing, etc. I read comics, and holding the unit vertically makes for an excellent digital comic book experience.
It is, quite frankly, the best tablet experience I've ever had. And it's sitting there on Jellybean.
How close are we to pulling he trigger on a GPL violation submission? I understand they've "lost" the source?
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I tried v3, and it failed. v1 worked.
I've had no updates on the source code situation over these past few months, so consider that trigger pulled, even if they've lost the source.
Anyway, let me reiterate my findings, many of which are going to make development on this a pain:
-There is no fastboot mode. Seriously, I have yet to find a way to get it to work, because the usual adb commands don't work. It may not even be present. Because of this, I don't even know if the bootloader's locked or unlocked. We can only pray it's the latter.
-APX mode is present like you'd expect on a Tegra device (assuming ExpressKeys on left, hold the top two buttons down while powering on until the status LED flashes red), but without a proper image to use with Nvflash, it's of no use. I doubt Wacom has such a recovery image to give us in the first place.
-The stock recovery is the most useless stock recovery I've ever seen! Your only option is to hit the center rocker button or the power button to reboot normally, as there's no menu.
-Backing up the boot and recovery partitions is trivial with Flashify, or more recently, FlashFire once you're rooted. What ISN'T trivial is just unpacking and repacking them consistently, such that the repacked version with no change to the contents is identical to the original. Maybe I just haven't found the right tools yet.
-I have not tested any attempts to reflash the recovery partition yet. Compiling TWRP is a bit in over my head, especially for a device without proper kernel sources, and the CWM Builder site's long dead. TWRP has no equivalent. At least you don't have to worry about things like getting Cintiq mode working in recovery, which should simplify things should we have to resort to using generic Tegra 4 sources.
-NVIDIA's dropped software support for Tegra 4, so it doesn't have official kernel/driver/whatever code updates for Android Marshmallow onward. Porting the latest Nougat over may prove even more troublesome as a result, and it's already confirmed that the Remix Ultratablet (which uses the same SoC) won't be getting RemixOS 3.0 officially because of it.
The cards are stacked against us, but nevertheless, I still feel this is one piece of hardware that deserves some community support since Wacom let everyone down on updates.