Ok.....heres the deal. About 3 weeks ago i saw a ad on craigslist about a epic touch for sale. I use Textplus App when I text someone on Craigslist...but anyways, i texted the person to inquire about the phone.. He said he was a manager at the Sprint Kiosk in the mall down the street from my job. He said that he was selling the phone for $500. I was like, thats full price. So I declined and took my business elsewhere.
About a week later i see an add in Craigslist from the same person, this time selling a iphone 4. I use my sister's phone to send the guy a text about the iphone 4. Again he says its brand new and still in its wrappings and he's selling it for $400. I passed again...
So last Friday, i see another ad on Craigslist for a Epic Touch, brand new and sealed. I make contact with the person, via regular text. Its the same person as before. He tells me that he's selling the Touch for $500 or willing to trade it for a good computer.
I offered him a laptop or two phones. He accepted the offer but after a couple hours, i contacted him to let him know i had to think about it.
Yesterday he texted me and now says he has a brand new Iphone 4s, wrapped and seal and that he can get me any color i want. He told me he'll sale it to me for $650 or my laptop, one of my phones plus $150...i said, hell no. Thats too much to give away. I then tried to call his bluff. I told him to text me a copy of the receipt showing he paid $650+ for the phone. He said that he didnt have a receipt and that it was a direct ship to his job (the sprint kiosk). He said that the order receipt doesnt have his name nor a price on it. I then told him that i noticed that he was selling a new phone almost every week and selling them for full retail. He claimed that he has a family plan and that since he's a sprint employee, he gets phones for the 2 year price.
My guess is that he's stealing the phones and then selling them. I find it strange that someone has a different high end phone every week and brand new at that.
What do you all guess?
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I honestly think he stealing them, because I use to work for corporate Sprint and nowhere would I be able to get so many phones that quick, and people from KIOSK usually steal stuff I met this one guy who was selling batteries their lol
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Ok.....heres the deal. About 3 weeks ago i saw a ad on craigslist about a epic touch for sale. I use Textplus App when I text someone on Craigslist...but anyways, i texted the person to inquire about the phone.. He said he was a manager at the Sprint Kiosk in the mall down the street from my job. He said that he was selling the phone for $500. I was like, thats full price. So I declined and took my business elsewhere.
About a week later i see an add in Craigslist from the same person, this time selling a iphone 4. I use my sister's phone to send the guy a text about the iphone 4. Again he says its brand new and still in its wrappings and he's selling it for $400. I passed again...
So last Friday, i see another ad on Craigslist for a Epic Touch, brand new and sealed. I make contact with the person, via regular text. Its the same person as before. He tells me that he's selling the Touch for $500 or willing to trade it for a good computer.
I offered him a laptop or two phones. He accepted the offer but after a couple hours, i contacted him to let him know i had to think about it.
Yesterday he texted me and now says he has a brand new Iphone 4s, wrapped and seal and that he can get me any color i want. He told me he'll sale it to me for $650 or my laptop, one of my phones plus $150...i said, hell no. Thats too much to give away. I then tried to call his bluff. I told him to text me a copy of the receipt showing he paid $650+ for the phone. He said that he didnt have a receipt and that it was a direct ship to his job (the sprint kiosk). He said that the order receipt doesnt have his name nor a price on it. I then told him that i noticed that he was selling a new phone almost every week and selling them for full retail. He claimed that he has a family plan and that since he's a sprint employee, he gets phones for the 2 year price.
My guess is that he's stealing the phones and then selling them. I find it strange that someone has a different high end phone every week and brand new at that.
What do you all guess?
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I'd say if your worried about it then make a call to Sprint and report what info you have. Then it will be up to them to look into it. If they don't, you did your part and Sprint can only blame themselves.
if it's a corporate kiosk he could get fired for that whether he bought them legitimately or not. our employment agreement says we can't sell phones at all as it's a conflict of interest since you would be competing with the company you work for. most of the kiosks that are left are 3rd party but i'm sure they have a similar agreement
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My good buddy works for sprint corp store...he gets brand new phones all the time
Its called a sales spiff..lol
I doubt the guy is stealing...
If u buy something from craigslist ask if its stolen ..and get a bill of sale...after that ur just being nosiey
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if it's a corporate kiosk he could get fired for that whether he bought them legitimately or not. our employment agreement says we can't sell phones at all as it's a conflict of interest since you would be competing with the company you work for. most of the kiosks that are left are 3rd party but i'm sure they have a similar agreement
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I see people on craigslist advertising phones all the time for cheap but when you click on it its salesmen advertising you to their stores. in my company this is not allowed you will get fired even though they aren't stealing its something we arent allowed to do
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My good buddy works for sprint corp store...he gets brand new phones all the time
Its called a sales spiff..lol
I doubt the guy is stealing...
If u buy something from craigslist ask if its stolen ..and get a bill of sale...after that ur just being nosiey
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I asked him for a receipt or something with his name on it..
But he blew me off and just said forget it.
Idk...maybe I'm looking to hard into the matter...m
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Maybe you are but eventually he will get caught if he is doing wrong. There is something called doing inventory we have fired several people due to doing inventory checks on phones and they wouldn't stop knowing we do this until they get caught
Dammit, you are one to speak. I see you selling a new phone every week in the Marketplace. Lol
Admittedly you are not selling bnib new phones but still......
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Dammit, you are one to speak. I see you selling a new phone every week. Lol
Admittedly you are not selling new phones but still......
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Lol...I get my phones off Craigslist or from making deals off the Marketplace.
I don't sell a NEW phone every week....maybe a used one, but definately not a new one....lol.
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if youre going to accuse someone of stealing you better be sure they are. it sounds like you do not have any real evidence to prove that he is.
Still sounds fishy.
I would give what info I had, the links on craigslist, and let Sprint or the 3rd party store take care of it themselves. Let them do the investigating.
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if youre going to accuse someone of stealing you better be sure they are. it sounds like you do not have any real evidence to prove that he is.
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I know..
I'm basically just going off of speculation and assumption. But all in all, it just doesn't sound right....selling high end phones every week, brand new, can't produce a receipt...then says it was a direct order to his job....(the spirit kiosk)....sounds fishy..
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I would still call Sprint and have them transfer you to the right department and have them investigate, try HR - Human Resources. BE SURE TO CALL AND HAVE THEM INVESTIGATE!!! Ask if they can call you back and let you know what the story is. Good luck!!! Make sure to call, because this will make prices go up if he is stealing!!!
What do you mean prices will go up?
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If I had no proof nor proof of harm being done to anyone....... I would move on, mind my own business and worry about whats going on in my own back yard!
If you were getting those phones much cheaper from him, I am sure this thread wouldn't exist right now.
What about I fly to Wisconson and go to the store with you? I bet you get a free Photon. I'm 5'8" and only 145Lbs, Piss me off and I will clear a bar!!! (Seriously, I did not have a Sprint bill for like 5 months. I gave them he**)
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If I had no proof nor proof of harm being done to anyone....... I would move on, mind my own business and worry about whats going on in my own back yard!
If you were getting those phones much cheaper from him, I am sure this thread wouldn't exist right now.
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First off bro, don't mean sound rude or anything cause that ain't me...but if something doesn't seem right to a person, they normally stay away...no matter how good the deal may be. I definitely don't need the police knocking at my door saying I received stolen property or sprint contacting me telling me the phone I have was stolen....
Also, remember he texted me this past time about the iphone...I didn't contact him. In addition, I don't think i NEED cold hard evidence...this isn't "The Peoples Court"...lol. But I do feel that maybe Sprint or whomever should look into the matter...
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What about I fly to Wisconson and go to the store with you? I bet you get a free Photon. I'm 5'8" and only 145Lbs, Piss me off and I will clear a bar!!! (Seriously, I did not have a Sprint bill for like 5 months. I gave them he**)
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Lol...come on up...lol
5 months..what happened?
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I'm going to be honest here. I used to work for tmo in the past and I sold phones on Craigslist, **** ton of them. I was the #1 rep in my district for a very long time and I had new devices falling out of my ass lol. I won so many phones from HTC, moto, Nokia, Samsung, blackberry etc I didn't know what to do with them. Before tmo changed up everything I think I won 2 or 3 phones a month. They said we couldn't sell them but what the hell else were I supposed to do with all these smartphones? Was I wrong? probably. Did I care? Ehh not really I was young and just saw this $_$. The moral of the story is either hes winning them in contest/drawings or has stealing them and others are in on it. I wouldn't get involved though let sprint etc catch em!
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Purchased a brand new EVO 3D off a guy on craigslist who swore it was all good. Called Sprint only to find out it has been reported as Lost or Stolen.
Guy of course will not return my calls now. What I can't believe is I asked if I could return the phone to Sprint so they can handle it, if it was stolen to return to the original owner or if reported lost it can now be found. They simply have no policy in place that allows for this.
So I'm basically screwed and have to try my luck selling a bad ESN phone on ebay (of course I will clearly list it as BAD ESN).
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Purchased a brand new EVO 3D off a guy on craigslist who swore it was all good. Called Sprint only to find out it has been reported as Lost or Stolen.
Guy of course will not return my calls now. What I can't believe is I asked if I could return the phone to Sprint so they can handle it, if it was stolen to return to the original owner or if reported lost it can now be found. They simply have no policy in place that allows for this.
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Maybe try calling back and talking to another associate. Or taking it to a local Sprint store. Or posting an ad somewhere, or with the local police department.
What an honorable thing to do though! I hope if I ever lose a phone, someone like you finds it.
That sucks bro, i know you can flag bad esn phones to metro pcs and cricket so you can market that in your eBay ad and still get top dollar for the phone. Best thing you can do in the future is have the seller meet you at Sprint saying you won't pay till its activated on your account or at least until the Sprint store confirms that it has a clean esn
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You should have called Sprint while in front of the guy and asked the rep if the phone was good. They will tell you if it has a good ESN or bad. When I bought my 4G, I called them right in front of the guy I bought it from. Just a FYI from now on.
Edit: I guess that only works if you meet them to pick it up. I would never buy something off Craigs List any other way. The few times I have purchased something from someone on Craigs, I met them in person.
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Maybe try calling back and talking to another associate. Or taking it to a local Sprint store. Or posting an ad somewhere, or with the local police department.
What an honorable thing to do though! I hope if I ever lose a phone, someone like you finds it.
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I got a call back from Sprint to ask about my experience with the representative (who tried everything to help me, even told me about the buyback program that I could try) and I asked again and was told unfortunately they simply have no procedure/policy in place for such a thing.
They basically just take it as a loss and thank you I appreciate that. I would love if I lost my phone that someone would try to return it too so I tried doing right by whoever had the phone stolen or lost. I believe in Karma, the bastard who ripped me off will get his dues!
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That sucks bro, i know you can flag bad esn phones to metro pcs and cricket so you can market that in your eBay ad and still get top dollar for the phone. Best thing you can do in the future is have the seller meet you at Sprint saying you won't pay till its activated on your account or at least until the Sprint store confirms that it has a clean esn
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Thanks for the advice, will follow it without a doubt should I ever decide to buy another phone off craigslist lol
I have bought several phones on craigslist and sold them too, I usually call sprint and activated before I give then the money and I do the same for the other person, what a douch the dude that did that, but you can still sell it on ebay for a few bucks for cricket
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Purchased a brand new EVO 3D off a guy on craigslist who swore it was all good. Called Sprint only to find out it has been reported as Lost or Stolen.
Guy of course will not return my calls now. What I can't believe is I asked if I could return the phone to Sprint so they can handle it, if it was stolen to return to the original owner or if reported lost it can now be found. They simply have no policy in place that allows for this.
So I'm basically screwed and have to try my luck selling a bad ESN phone on ebay (of course I will clearly list it as BAD ESN).
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Dude, I live in Miami too.
We should find this guy and **** him up.
I live in Miami too. Add me to the list.
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Dude. You do realize you can trace his number right?
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Yeah, I think I would talk to the police and give them a copy of the CL ad (if you have it) and the guys number. You might never get your money back, but maybe you can get him arrested.
Or you could try to trace the number, get his address and open up a can of whip-ass on him. It's not like he will report you to the police. "Yeah, I sold this guy some stolen stuff and he assaulted me." LOL
Google reverse phone lookup. You might be able to get their address from the number like others said. That sucks though..
Miami here...and add me to the Flash Mob!!... To the FBI if reading this: its a joke calm down lol
You guys are awesome. I'm in Louisiana and if I wasnt so far away you could have added me to the list also. Nothing more I hate than a thief and a liar.
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Thanks everyone for the support! I really appreciate it. Turns out he was using a textfree service number so no luck there; not that I was going to confront him. Rather lose some money then the possibility of the guy carrying a weapon and using it against me.
It is MIAMI, crazy fools out here!
Thanks again for all the kind support though guys, I feel a lot better and I already managed to sell the phone on ebay. Made sure buyer understood Sprint would not activate it and he is none the less happy with his purchase.
What a bummer man, I'm sorry that happened to you. I use Craigslist all the time to buy and sell phones. Never had s problem yet but I always get the esn before ill even meet the person. But for sure you can flash it to metro pcs and sell it that way. I'm in Detroit and people will post that their phone has a bad esn and people still buy them all day long..
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Maybe you can go into the EPST and see what the previous owner's email/phone number was. Or maybe some files on the SD card will give you a clue.
Or post an ad in the found section of Craigs but say you'll only give it to the person who has the box with the IMEI number on it.
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Definitely, call the police and report this. Since it is a new phone, you may be able to get a felony charged to him. Isn't theft of items over $500 a felony? The phone new is is $550 bucks. That is a felony. Please do it. People like that do not deserve any ounce of niceness, pity, or the right to vote. Please, please report him. I know how you feel. I was scammed once like this. A guy my sister knew(not really a friend just someone she knew) said he needed money pay rent or he was going to be evicted and he could trade a Wal-Mart gift card for the cash. He had a $300 gift card and needed $100 bucks to pay rent. So I thought why not because I can check the balance of the card before I give him the cash. And that the gift card is only good to him if he buy something at Walmart and not to pay rent. Plus my sister said he was a cool guy. I meet him and he dials his phone on speaker to check the balance of the card. The balance on a card comes to just at $300. So, I'm like awesome I've helped someone out and got a nice deal. I get home and start shopping on Walmart.com for a TV I've been wanting. I go to check out and the card says there's insufficient funds available on it. Turns out that the guy switched the cards. I was pissed. My sister found out that he had a drug problem and he had done this to other "friends". I reported him and he was arrested. He had done it to at least 4 other people. I should have checked the balance myself, but since my sister said he was cool, I thought hearing it from his phone was enough to be legit. Being scammed does make one feel dumb, but they have practice at doing it. They make it their job. And we all tend to get good at our jobs. Please report him. I feel for you, bro. Good luck.
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I hate to hear stories like this. I have followed up on (3) incidents involving cell phone fraud/abuse/theft and can verify (1) arrest from it. Cell phone companies will take the loss in lost/stolen equipment but there is no limits to what you can do personally in exacting justice on these criminals.
Always remember: Evil prevails when good men do nothing...
I wish you the best in this situation, however I do agree that doing anything that would endanger personal safety is not worth it...
Um... call the police?
Just a thought though...
I could be WAY off on this one.
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I like that. Is that a quote from someone else?
When i found out Best buy was taking pre orders for the Note and offering a free case i went down and tried to pre order. I was buying the phone outright for retail as im not elgible to upgrade. When i got there i found the phone was selling for $749.99; $100.00 more than at&t, however ive had no problem with getting them to price match before hand. So i asked the employee if they would and he confirmed with the manager however he said i would not be able to pre order due to the price match descrepency and that i would have to come in on launch day to get one and i would still get the case just let the manager know the situation. So when Sunday came i was the second person there. First of all i had to wait about 30 minutes for 3 of Mobile Dept employees were tending to the only person before me, then when i asked the employee about the phone he didnt even know what it was!!! He went to the "manager" and the manager came out and showed me the phone and started telling me about it. This is where i started getting p!ssed off. He first tends to tell me they dont have the phone in blue... only black... :-].. HUH?? secondly he starts talking about how its "cool because it has a stylus like the nintendo DS"... I kinda told him it was an S-Pen and what it could do and he just looked at me and said "same thing" and walked away!!!. At this point i was annoyed after waiting and the employees lack of professionalism/knowledge so i wanted to get the phone and just leave. I told the other employee i would be buying without contract, about the price match policy and that i had still wanted the free case that i was promised. He called the manager back and the manager said the most they could do is give me the case for 50% off since i waited for so long!!! We argued back & forth as i felt i was lied to and jipped. I told him i was paying $700+ for a phone choosing to go thru them only for the black tie protection plan and it was crap that I was told otherwise about getting the free case. He kind of chuckled at me then told me "i was free to go elsewhere but thats what he could do"!!! Then when they finally opened my phone and activated it all 3 employees and the manager were looking at it and playing with it for a good minute or 2 before even giving it to me! It got to the point where the manager was like "ohh sorry but weve never seen one of these things powered on and we wanted to look at it"... This particular location used to be awsome. Im a Silver Rewards Zone member and i would know all the employees by name... i knew as soon as i walked into a dept i would be harassed by that dept rep if i needed help. They were knowledgable and friendly. Those days are sense gone and now they have a whole new slew of workers that dont know anything, and look annoyed to even do their job. Its impossible to get them to even help you out if you need it without having to chase one of them down. Did anyone else have any issues with Pre-ordering or price matching?
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When i found out Best buy was taking pre orders for the Note and offering a free case i went down and tried to pre order. I was buying the phone outright for retail as im not elgible to upgrade. When i got there i found the phone was selling for $749.99; $100.00 more than at&t, however ive had no problem with getting them to price match before hand. So i asked the employee if they would and he confirmed with the manager however he said i would not be able to pre order due to the price match descrepency and that i would have to come in on launch day to get one and i would still get the case just let the manager know the situation. So when Sunday came i was the second person there. First of all i had to wait about 30 minutes for 3 of Mobile Dept employees were tending to the only person before me, then when i asked the employee about the phone he didnt even know what it was!!! He went to the "manager" and the manager came out and showed me the phone and started telling me about it. This is where i started getting p!ssed off. He first tends to tell me they dont have the phone in blue... only black... :-].. HUH?? secondly he starts talking about how its "cool because it has a stylus like the nintendo DS"... I kinda told him it was an S-Pen and what it could do and he just looked at me and said "same thing" and walked away!!!. At this point i was annoyed after waiting and the employees lack of professionalism/knowledge so i wanted to get the phone and just leave. I told the other employee i would be buying without contract, about the price match policy and that i had still wanted the free case that i was promised. He called the manager back and the manager said the most they could do is give me the case for 50% off since i waited for so long!!! We argued back & forth as i felt i was lied to and jipped. I told him i was paying $700+ for a phone choosing to go thru them only for the black tie protection plan and it was crap that I was told otherwise about getting the free case. He kind of chuckled at me then told me "i was free to go elsewhere but thats what he could do"!!! Then when they finally opened my phone and activated it all 3 employees and the manager were looking at it and playing with it for a good minute or 2 before even giving it to me! It got to the point where the manager was like "ohh sorry but weve never seen one of these things powered on and we wanted to look at it"... This particular location used to be awsome. Im a Silver Rewards Zone member and i would know all the employees by name... i knew as soon as i walked into a dept i would be harassed by that dept rep if i needed help. They were knowledgable and friendly. Those days are sense gone and now they have a whole new slew of workers that dont know anything, and look annoyed to even do their job. Its impossible to get them to even help you out if you need it without having to chase one of them down. Did anyone else have any issues with Pre-ordering or price matching?
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The moral of the story is, order directly from AT&T next time. Best Buy always jacks up the off-contract price. It has never been worth it to buy a mobile phone from them. They could give me a free case studded in diamonds and I still wouldn't buy the phone from them.
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Sorry to hear your issues in getting your GNote. I have bought at Best Buy and always had good service. Looks like Best Buy and ATT borked up the pre-ordering for this phone. I heard stories of people who had pre-ordered from both finally give it up and walk in on launch day and buy the phone.
I did not pre order, but I get mine on launch day. It seems like these phones are launching so quickly that all employees are not up to speed on all the phones, specs or even that they are launching that day. That is why once you get someone good, stick with them!
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When i found out Best buy was taking pre orders for the Note and offering a free case i went down and tried to pre order. I was buying the phone outright for retail as im not elgible to upgrade. When i got there i found the phone was selling for $749.99; $100.00 more than at&t, however ive had no problem with getting them to price match before hand. So i asked the employee if they would and he confirmed with the manager however he said i would not be able to pre order due to the price match descrepency and that i would have to come in on launch day to get one and i would still get the case just let the manager know the situation. So when Sunday came i was the second person there. First of all i had to wait about 30 minutes for 3 of Mobile Dept employees were tending to the only person before me, then when i asked the employee about the phone he didnt even know what it was!!! He went to the "manager" and the manager came out and showed me the phone and started telling me about it. This is where i started getting p!ssed off. He first tends to tell me they dont have the phone in blue... only black... :-].. HUH?? secondly he starts talking about how its "cool because it has a stylus like the nintendo DS"... I kinda told him it was an S-Pen and what it could do and he just looked at me and said "same thing" and walked away!!!. At this point i was annoyed after waiting and the employees lack of professionalism/knowledge so i wanted to get the phone and just leave. I told the other employee i would be buying without contract, about the price match policy and that i had still wanted the free case that i was promised. He called the manager back and the manager said the most they could do is give me the case for 50% off since i waited for so long!!! We argued back & forth as i felt i was lied to and jipped. I told him i was paying $700+ for a phone choosing to go thru them only for the black tie protection plan and it was crap that I was told otherwise about getting the free case. He kind of chuckled at me then told me "i was free to go elsewhere but thats what he could do"!!! Then when they finally opened my phone and activated it all 3 employees and the manager were looking at it and playing with it for a good minute or 2 before even giving it to me! It got to the point where the manager was like "ohh sorry but weve never seen one of these things powered on and we wanted to look at it"... This particular location used to be awsome. Im a Silver Rewards Zone member and i would know all the employees by name... i knew as soon as i walked into a dept i would be harassed by that dept rep if i needed help. They were knowledgable and friendly. Those days are sense gone and now they have a whole new slew of workers that dont know anything, and look annoyed to even do their job. Its impossible to get them to even help you out if you need it without having to chase one of them down. Did anyone else have any issues with Pre-ordering or price matching?
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Sorry those people sucked haha it does happen sometimes. I work for BBYM and I can tell you that some are not the most knowledgeable.. Hell my boss has absolutely no idea on different specs or upcoming phones. But he's not really supposed to. Do you know how many new phones come through every couple weeks? The ATT rep will hand him a spec sheet with highlights and thats it. He certainly wont do any outside research. Its the sales people that should be the ones trained on phones. So for their incompetence I apologize.
As for the other stuff, our pre-ordering system blows. Know that. But, it can also reap some pretty good benefits if you are a little patient with it. The price matching thing does work on pre-orders as I have done it for a couple customers with the galaxy nexus.
So knowing what you do now, would you still get your phone from best buy? Just curious. As one of the top 50 performing stores in the company this past quarter, I like to gauge outside response on peoples experience.
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Sorry those people sucked haha it does happen sometimes. I work for BBYM and I can tell you that some are not the most knowledgeable.. Hell my boss has absolutely no idea on different specs or upcoming phones. But he's not really supposed to. Do you know how many new phones come through every couple weeks? The ATT rep will hand him a spec sheet with highlights and thats it. He certainly wont do any outside research. Its the sales people that should be the ones trained on phones. So for their incompetence I apologize.
As for the other stuff, our pre-ordering system blows. Know that. But, it can also reap some pretty good benefits if you are a little patient with it. The price matching thing does work on pre-orders as I have done it for a couple customers with the galaxy nexus.
So knowing what you do now, would you still get your phone from best buy? Just curious. As one of the top 50 performing stores in the company this past quarter, I like to gauge outside response on peoples experience.
Oh and enjoy your note!
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If it wasn't for the black tie protection program I wouldn't go back there period. I got my iPhone 4 4s and nexus S with the protection and have loved it. But this particular location has gone down hill.
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Dude that sucks.. I know alot of the bbuy employees in my local one by name and get alot better service there compared to at$t/tmobile stores. You should have asked for the store manager not the bbym one.. And known the name of the one that said he would give the case to you for free.
Btw you know there was a 3x rewards coupon active for release day, should have been in your email.. Would have been almost 45 back in reward points.
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This is why I opted to buy the phone through at&t. BB is not a good place to buy phones at a full price. Good for upgrading though, which is what I use them for.
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Someone on CL texted me recently asking if I wanted to trade my 3VO for an Optimus V that was hacked to never receive a bill. I didn't ask how, simply "No thanks" however this doesn't seem possible or legal. Should I do anything or just ignore this person?
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Someone on CL texted me recently asking if I wanted to trade my 3VO for an Optimus V that was hacked to never receive a bill. I didn't ask how, simply "No thanks" however this doesn't seem possible or legal. Should I do anything or just ignore this person?
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I remember an old, old hack for a Phillips Savvy that with a bit of solder you could hack it to each reboot be reloaded with £10 credit... I wonder if anyone is still using those phones - I think I have one in my loft somewhere with a bunch of other phones.
but no - I agree doesn't sound legal at all.
He's most likely full of it, but it would definitely be illegal lol. I wouldn't do much more than passing any information you have on him to his carrier.
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lol, I think you could say a phone with a blacklisted ESN is hacked to never receive a bill.
I used to live at an apartment where for some reason the cable company used to never charge me for paid on demand movies/events.
Suckers.
Maybe he would take your address and email address from your evo 3d and use that information to steal your mail to make sure that you never recieve a bill again.
lol some good responses. I was in a rush to get to work when I got the text messages so when things calmed down it hit me - a contract is a contract you will always have a bill until it ends/cancels.
To me the guy is just a joke but I'm sure to less tech savvy people he's causing problems.
This is the cell phone equivalent of the Hollywood Juice Diet, those SpeedUpMyPC.com ads on TV, and this year's GOP debates. You want to think it'd be a good deal, but you'll end up get taken in the end. ...and hopefully that's the only thing that'll happen to your "end"...
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I used to live at an apartment where for some reason the cable company used to never charge me for paid on demand movies/events.
Suckers.
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I got free Gas/Electricity for like 8 months at an old apartment once. That Summer I owned PG&E...Thermometer set at 68*s the whole time. lol
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Cetus Corr said:
I used to live at an apartment where for some reason the cable company used to never charge me for paid on demand movies/events.
Suckers.
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I got away with this for almost 3 years except it was that the complex once supplied cable to the residents but they cancelled doing it. However, Comcast forgot to come out and disconnect it...for three whole years lol. Came home from work one day and there were green letters on every door in the complex and I knew what it was before I even got out of the car.
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This is the cell phone equivalent of the Hollywood Juice Diet, those SpeedUpMyPC.com ads on TV, and this year's GOP debates. You want to think it'd be a good deal, but you'll end up get taken in the end. ...and hopefully that's the only thing that'll happen to your "end"...
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Don't knock on speedupmypc.com! It only cost me 2 payments and it made my internet go faster! Now I can check my email 'blazing fast'
But seriously, I love how in those commercials, every person is over the age of 45, simply because no one under the age of 30 is stupid enough to buy into it. Appeal to the 50+ demographic, speedupmypc.com, kudos to you.
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Don't knock on speedupmypc.com! It only cost me 2 payments and it made my internet go faster! Now I can check my email 'blazing fast'
But seriously, I love how in those commercials, every person is over the age of 45, simply because no one under the age of 30 is stupid enough to buy into it. Appeal to the 50+ demographic, speedupmypc.com, kudos to you.
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Thanks cleanmypc.com! Your the best! Now I can surf the web even more faster! EVEN MORE
This reminds me. When I first got Sprint it was with a SERO account. I ordered a phone (Mogul) and they accidently sent me 2 but only charged me for one. I called Sprint and they had no idea what was going on but told me to send one back. So I sent one back. The next month I realized they put a $200 credit on my account. I called them back and told them what happened and even explained my theory about them refunding me for the phone I returned. The CSR assured me they would fix it. They never did. SERO was about $30/month so I ended up with like half a yr of free services. I'm still with Sprint and SERO.
-Adam
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This reminds me. When I first got Sprint it was with a SERO account. I ordered a phone (Mogul) and they accidently sent me 2 but only charged me for one. I called Sprint and they had no idea what was going on but told me to send one back. So I sent one back. The next month I realized they put a $200 credit on my account. I called them back and told them what happened and even explained my theory about them refunding me for the phone I returned. The CSR assured me they would fix it. They never did. SERO was about $30/month so I ended up with like half a yr of free services. I'm still with Sprint and SERO.
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This happened to me.. sort of. I ordered an a900 through the phone. Got desperate, called and canceled it and got it at the store. Then got one in the mail afterwards. Never called or got charged. Activated it after one of them got really damaged. And they said nothing...
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I before I lived in the apartment where comcast didn't charge me for paid on demand, I lived at another apartment and came home to a letter from comcast explaining up to that day I was receiving service by mistake so they disconnected it. I was living there for like a year and a half. I was the sucker that time.
Another time I got fired from Wells Fargo so the manager made a credit(bank lingo) and paid for the hours of that pay period. About a week later, I get a direct deposit for the same amount from them. Then I closed my account. Suckers.
There's a guy who is supposedly from a store here in Los Angeles who says he can sell me a new Rezound for $100 even if I'm not eligible for an upgrade yet. I've looked up the store and it exists, I've seen the pics, he said I could go there and I've seen something that says the store has been in business for 22 years or something like that.
Now I saw his listing on Craig's List. I emailed him. His email back had bad grammar and spelling and didn't come across as very professional.
Yes there new. We are a private company for verizon business department so when you upgrade through our sytems you get to keep unlimited data because we offer it if you where not a Verizon grandfathered customer. We can do early upgrades because when you tranfer over to us youe number automatically because eligible by terms and conditions.
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So... what can the scam or the risk be? I'm under contract, bought the phone from Amazon end of last November. What can happen to me? Get slammed with early termination of contract? How would this place stay in business if they do this sort of thing?
I just tried my last hope of reviving my phone and it didn't work, so I need to get another one soon. Been without for 2-3 weeks already. ouchie.
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There's a guy who is supposedly from a store here in Los Angeles who says he can sell me a new Rezound for $100 even if I'm not eligible for an upgrade yet. I've looked up the store and it exists, I've seen the pics, he said I could go there and I've seen something that says the store has been in business for 22 years or something like that.
Now I saw his listing on Craig's List. I emailed him. His email back had bad grammar and spelling and didn't come across as very professional.
So... what can the scam or the risk be? I'm under contract, bought the phone from Amazon end of last November. What can happen to me? Get slammed with early termination of contract? How would this place stay in business if they do this sort of thing?
I just tried my last hope of reviving my phone and it didn't work, so I need to get another one soon. Been without for 2-3 weeks already. ouchie.
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Don't go for it man, for all we know he's just wanting your money.
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cpie20 said:
Don't go for it man, for all we know he's just wanting your money.
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I know he wants my money. What I'm trying to figure out is what is the risk to me and what can the scam be? The store has been around a long time.
He's going to scam you into getting into a long term contract with added fee's to make up the difference in selling the phone for so cheap..
Stay Away!!!
If it sounds to good to be true, it normally is, stay away and pick up a phone off ebay
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I know he wants my money. What I'm trying to figure out is what is the risk to me and what can the scam be? The store has been around a long time.
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It sounds an awful lot like they are selling other contracts somehow. As in you are getting another account that is unlimited data... Or the IMEI on the handset is bad, and if that gets reported you have a brick, if the cops cone asking you about it... Well it happened to me with a computer repair job.
Phones can be cloned too. That happens. They're hacked, can become black listed etc.
Read this
www.scambusters.org/cellphone.html
The mac books were traced to me, and I helped the cops and all was good for me, but scary when they ask HOW you got the device and ask "didn't that seem too good to be true?? Are you dumb?"
Don't do it.
Trust me.
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Keep in mind that phones from amazon wireless have their own etc fees
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Either a child, or a foreign guy.
If it sounds too good to be true, it is 99% of the time a scam.
Common sense 101.. If it's too good to be true it probably is.
Dont do it..reconsider.
When I had Sprint they would call me twice a month with deals to upgrade my phone early, only catch was you had to sign up for another line of service. They wouldn't tell you that till they actually started doing the upgrade.
I'd say go investigate it personally. If it looks good, doesn't require another contract, and the ESN is good (call a VZW store to confirm), then maybe you win. You can always walk away.
......my $.02
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I'd say go investigate it personally. If it looks good, doesn't require another contract, and the ESN is good (call a VZW store to confirm), then maybe you win. You can always walk away.
......my $.02
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That is true, they can't force you to buy it.
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I'd say go investigate it personally. If it looks good, doesn't require another contract, and the ESN is good (call a VZW store to confirm), then maybe you win. You can always walk away.
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Yeah, that's what I figure I'll do. Seems that what might happen is my current contract is violated and I would have to pay early termination which would then make it more expensive than just buying a phone.
And I was almost talked down from the ledge...
I'm also going to see if I can strong arm Verizon into giving me a phone under warranty. It's worked for me before with Sprint, although my contract was up and so I could go get another phone free starting an new one with another provider. This time I'm still under contract. Worth a shot though. Trying to decide if it's best to do that with a call or in store.
haha cmon, i guess my word wasn't enough to convince you otherwise?
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haha cmon, i guess my word wasn't enough to convince you otherwise?
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lol. Don't worry, I really do love and respect you.
I mostly wanted to see what people thought could be the scam/risk. I still don't see how a business can survive a good length of time if they are scamming their customers.
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lol. Don't worry, I really do love and respect you.
I mostly wanted to see what people thought could be the scam/risk. I still don't see how a business can survive a good length of time if they are scamming their customers.
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Apple.
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Apple.
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Deny it all you want but they have a few kick ass products and they have the single best marketing of any company ever.
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Lmao nice
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Apple.
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Deny it all you want but they have a few kick ass products and they have the single best marketing of any company ever.
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yet they scam customers by releasing minuscule updates on their phones as a brand new product to force their moronic customers into buying the next one. so again, they're a company that scams morons and is still in business.
the only reason they have the "best marketing of any company ever" (which i won't even go there, because it's simply good marketing in this idiotic country) is because americans are sheep, juvenile and just plain ignorant when it comes to most things.
Ok about a month ago, I wanted to switch from T-Mobile because the rural coverage was pretty garbage. Edge speed was so slow, it would not load a single page.
I walked into the AT&T store with my unlocked HTC One, and wanted to sign up for service. At first they were cool with it, and then the balked... "If you trade in this phone and pay an additional $26, you can have the black one which is guaranteed to work on this network". Now, I was ANIMATE at the time about not signing a 2 year contract. I brought my own phone, so there was NO REASON to sign up. At no point did he indicate that I was required to sign up for a 2 year contract to receive this black phone, when I just traded in the exact same phone in perfect condition which was only 2 weeks old.
After I got my first bill, I was on the website checking out my features. It says I am eligible for upgrade in 2015... meaning, I am on a 2 year agreement. I did NOT want to be on any agreement like this, so I need to know what my options are.
Thanks.
EDIT/UPDATE: This was an authorized dealer, not an AT&T corporate store. I honestly did not know they were different - they look exactly the same. Either way, I got a refund, and was allowed to keep the phone even though I canceled service immediately. I went back to T-Mobile as they were always pretty awesome (just the coverage in rural areas is still going to burn).
Have you called anyone at AT&T to verify your suspicion?
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Ok about a month ago, I wanted to switch from T-Mobile because the rural coverage was pretty garbage. Edge speed was so slow, it would not load a single page.
I walked into the AT&T store with my unlocked HTC One, and wanted to sign up for service. At first they were cool with it, and then the balked... "If you trade in this phone and pay an additional $26, you can have the black one which is guaranteed to work on this network". Now, I was ANIMATE at the time about not signing a 2 year contract. I brought my own phone, so there was NO REASON to sign up. At no point did he indicate that I was required to sign up for a 2 year contract to receive this black phone, when I just traded in the exact same phone in perfect condition which was only 2 weeks old.
After I got my first bill, I was on the website checking out my features. It says I am eligible for upgrade in 2015... meaning, I am on a 2 year agreement. I did NOT want to be on any agreement like this, so I need to know what my options are.
Thanks.
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Yea, you got taken to the cleaners on that one.
Your only option of getting out of the contract is to return the device and cancel service before the trial period ends. That means porting out to save your number if you came from T-Mobile with the line.
As far as getting your old device back... well, good luck:cyclops:
Was it unethical by AT&T, yes.
However, you were a bit gullible there, the portion of trading in your phone was a HUGE red flag:silly:
You never get an AT&T device subsidized without ending up in contract, period.
The point made about even exchange is simply mute.. When taking advantage of the trade in, you only get trade in value, not the $600+ MSRP. And the trade in value 'may' have cancelled out the AT&T branded device, however, you still got taken to the cleaners on this deal.
The sales people in stores get paid by signing up people to contracts. I don't think it was At&t as a whole that screwed you but that particular salesperson F'd you good to get paid.
Just check your paperwork and make sure you didn't sign anything showing a contract. Your best bet is to raise holy hell in the store with the manager and single out this salesperson. If that doesn't work move on to corporate. Good luck.
You didn't get swindled. If they gave you a device at a subsidized priced (which they did) you physically signed a 2 yr agreement. Did you not read what you signed?
I can't say I feel bad for you at all. Common sense.
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You didn't get swindled. If they gave you a device at a
The only thing I signed was a touchpad thing asking permission to port my number. The guy said they waved my activation fee because I brought my own phone.
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Now you say you were animate about bot signing up for a contract. Does that mean you informed the sales rep that you weren't interested in a contract? If so then yes, the sales rep screwed you hard for not explaining that you would be entering a 2 year agreement if you traded for the black one.
However, you should have asked more questions about the deal to get a better understanding. But it does sound like the guy was trying to get you on a contract without you knowing, seeing that he tricked you into it by offering a simple color change.
If this was less than 14 days ago go into the store and raise hell on earth, you will garuanteed be able to return the phone. As for getting your old phone back, I'm sure you signed something about it saying all trade ins are final. If it's been over 14 days....good luck. Trying to return a phone after that to AT&T is near impossible..good luck!
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Jeez , at worst you could have sold your tmobile one for like $450 and bought the black one on contract for $199 like normal.
ATT def screwed you on this one.
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Ok about a month ago, I wanted to switch from T-Mobile because the rural coverage was pretty garbage. Edge speed was so slow, it would not load a single page.
I walked into the AT&T store with my unlocked HTC One, and wanted to sign up for service. At first they were cool with it, and then the balked... "If you trade in this phone and pay an additional $26, you can have the black one which is guaranteed to work on this network". Now, I was ADAMANT at the time about not signing a 2 year contract. I brought my own phone, so there was NO REASON to sign up. At no point did he indicate that I was required to sign up for a 2 year contract to receive this black phone, when I just traded in the exact same phone in perfect condition which was only 2 weeks old.
After I got my first bill, I was on the website checking out my features. It says I am eligible for upgrade in 2015... meaning, I am on a 2 year agreement. I did NOT want to be on any agreement like this, so I need to know what my options are.
Thanks.
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You didn't get swindled. If they gave you a device at a subsidized priced (which they did) you physically signed a 2 yr agreement. Did you not read what you signed?
I can't say I feel bad for you at all. Common sense.
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This! You messed up... Just think. Why would they do that?
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This! You messed up... Just think. Why would they do that?
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The AT&T store admitted guilt to me, however, they said they could do nothing since I am past the 14 day return policy. Basically the guy had me sign a 2 year contract while masking it as a phone SWAP and not a subsidy purchase.
So ya, to the above posters - AT&T was at fault. The credited my account with the value of the phone, minus the 2 year agreement price.
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This! You messed up... Just think. Why would they do that?
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Why would THEY do that?! You serious? The lady on the phone at AT&T said this was not a corporate store, and they were commission hungry. Case closed.
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Why would THEY do that?! You serious? The lady on the phone at AT&T said this was not a corporate store, and they were commission hungry. Case closed.
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Everybody knows that when you receive a device at a lower price = conract. You do understand that the contract is what gets them their money back that they lost on the phone.
Do you honestly think they would stay in business if they did what they did for OP every time?
OP ya blew it, don't go blaming that sales rep. He knows he is right, and if you have ever worked in customer service you know that arguing with the customer is a waste of time.
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Everybody knows that when you receive a device at a lower price = conract. You do understand that the contract is what gets them their money back that they lost on the phone.
Do you honestly think they would stay in business if they did what they did for OP every time?
OP ya blew it, don't go blaming that sales rep. He knows he is right, and if you have ever worked in customer service you know that arguing with the customer is a waste of time.
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I won't go blaming the sales rep who was fired for doing this to multiple customers in the last 2 months. Gotcha. Ok buddy You know everything. He was masking a 2 years subsidy with a phone swap, claiming the phones wouldnt work on AT&T. When a sales rep says its a swap and would not require a 2 year contract, you tend to believe him. The phones worked fine on AT&T, and he was just cashing commission checks at the expense of the customers. A few people figured it out in the 14 day return period, but I did not think to look at my bill.
So basically you are wrong
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I won't go blaming the sales rep who was fired for doing this to multiple customers in the last 2 months. Gotcha. Ok buddy You know everything. He was masking a 2 years subsidy with a phone swap, claiming the phones wouldnt work on AT&T. When a sales rep says its a swap and would not require a 2 year contract, you tend to believe him. The phones worked fine on AT&T, and he was just cashing commission checks at the expense of the customers. A few people figured it out in the 14 day return period, but I did not think to look at my bill.
So basically you are wrong
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You are assuming he was fired. You think he did something wrong, he really didn't. They just want you to feel like a big boy that didn't get tricked bye
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The AT&T store admitted guilt to me, however, they said they could do nothing since I am past the 14 day return policy. Basically the guy had me sign a 2 year contract while masking it as a phone SWAP and not a subsidy purchase.
So ya, to the above posters - AT&T was at fault. The credited my account with the value of the phone, minus the 2 year agreement price.
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Are you saying that even after them admitting guilt, you still ended up with a 2 year contract?
There's a sucker born every minute. OP deserves what he got.
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There's a sucker born every minute. OP deserves what he got.
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Deserved what I got? Are you retarded?!
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Deserved what I got? Are you retarded?!
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Hell no you don't. A phone swap pretty much implies he shouldn't be getting a contract. Why would someone think "oh if I give them my phone for a phone gaurenteed to work on this network, esentially buying it at full price, it's a contract?" Some people here need to not be such jerks about this.
OP, I'm glad they credited your account and you got it sorted out. Good for you
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Hell no you don't. A phone swap pretty much implies he shouldn't be getting a contract. Why would someone think "oh if I give them my phone for a phone gaurenteed to work on this network, esentially buying it at full price, it's a contract?" Some people here need to not be such jerks about this.
OP, I'm glad they credited your account and you got it sorted out. Good for you
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Pro-tip: OP might be lying
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