Going from rooted 2.3.4 to 2.3.5 - Motorola Droid X2

Hi, I just rooted my Droid X2 this morning on 2.3.4 and want to install Eclipse 2.0.2 and realized that have to be on 2.3.5. I saw this thread and was wondering if it was possible for me to just boot into bootstrap and flash 2.3.5 and install Eclipse 2.0.2 without having to SPF back to complete stock unrooted 2.3.4? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Edit: I also read somewhere that ROM manager does not work correctly with the DX2? If that is the case, what is the best alternative to this?

helloterence said:
Hi, I just rooted my Droid X2 this morning on 2.3.4 and want to install Eclipse 2.0.2 and realized that have to be on 2.3.5. I saw this thread and was wondering if it was possible for me to just boot into bootstrap and flash 2.3.5 and install Eclipse 2.0.2 without having to SPF back to complete stock unrooted 2.3.4? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Edit: I also read somewhere that ROM manager does not work correctly with the DX2? If that is the case, what is the best alternative to this?
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You must follow that thread to a T if you want to be on eclipse 2.02 or else it will not work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412729 same thread in post #3. Follow it and enjoy. If you try your own thing it will not work. A lot of hard work and a couple of days to figure out this method and it is the only way I got on 2.02 and loving it

helloterence said:
Hi, I just rooted my Droid X2 this morning on 2.3.4 and want to install Eclipse 2.0.2 and realized that have to be on 2.3.5. I saw this thread and was wondering if it was possible for me to just boot into bootstrap and flash 2.3.5 and install Eclipse 2.0.2 without having to SPF back to complete stock unrooted 2.3.4? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Edit: I also read somewhere that ROM manager does not work correctly with the DX2? If that is the case, what is the best alternative to this?
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There really is no alternative to rom manager for what it does. You HAVE to use bootstrap recovery
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If your running the STOCK 2.3.4, then you do NOT need to SBF to a fresh version. This is whether your rooted or not. You'll only need to SBF to stock 2.3.4 if you installed a custom ROM on, like Molten, Liberty, etc.
Personally, I would recommend SBF'ing - but that's just because I like a fresh, clean start with these things. Eitherway, it'll work perfectly fine.
As for getting to 2.3.5, it's recommend that you use the "Android Recovery" that comes with it to flash the update. Once your on 2.3.5 you'll need to reroot and install BSR to get the custom ROM on.

Use ota root keeper from the market and upgrade
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weldawadyathink said:
Use ota root keeper from the market and upgrade
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Do NOT use ota root keeper if u ever wanna think about a custom Tom on the 2.3.5 build.. update to 2.3.5 wont work if u deleted any bloatware
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Are you sure about that motcher41 ? You can just delete the su BU. The RK apk gives you the option.

skwoodwiva said:
Are you sure about that motcher41 ? You can just delete the su BU. The RK apk gives you the option.
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Imho yes im sure. I personally did bootloop and had to sbf.
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OK But you did not have to. Just for the record IF I delete the SU BU I NEVER BOMBed OUT OF ANY ROM CUZ OF RK.

skwoodwiva said:
OK But you did not have to. Just for the record IF I delete the SU BU I NEVER BOMBed OUT OF ANY ROM CUZ OF RK.
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Yes it can be done
BUT
For people who are just trying to follow the directions for the ROM install, they will end up having issues, because no where in the ROM install instructions, for any ROM we have, does it mention deleting SU backup made by root keeper. So if they try to just flash a ROM after rooting w/ root keeper, they will get an "installation aborted error line 294" & if they aren't able to restore a backup before rebooting then it's just going to be sbf time anyways lol.
If you know what you are doing tho and have read into it and found what you need to do of using root keeper to gain root, then yes, go for it, but the "average" user here is going to have no idea why they keep getting installation aborted, when they could just use zergrush and be all good to go
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As it is, if I have to go to 2.3.5, I hold off rooting until AFTER I've updated to 2.3.5. No need to root if I'm sbfing to 2.3.4 and updating to 2.3.5. The root is only needed when I'm ready to install BSR and flash a custom ROM.
This is what I do:
SBF to 2.3.4
Apply 2.3.5 update
Root
Install BSR
Flash 2.3.5 custom ROM
Done
To me, Rootkeeper just seems to cause more hassles and it's just easier to root after I'm done updating to 2.3.5. No need to root at the 2.3.4 level.
Of course, if you are already rooted at 2.3.4 and want to update to 2.3.5, I can see that, but Rootkeeper has been proven to cause issues and it just creates more work to avoid those issues.
ashclepdia said:
Yes it can be done
BUT
For people who are just trying to follow the directions for the ROM install, they will end up having issues, because no where in the ROM install instructions, for any ROM we have, does it mention deleting SU backup made by root keeper. So if they try to just flash a ROM after rooting w/ root keeper, they will get an "installation aborted error line 294" & if they aren't able to restore a backup before rebooting then it's just going to be sbf time anyways lol.
If you know what you are doing tho and have read into it and found what you need to do of using root keeper to gain root, then yes, go for it, but the "average" user here is going to have no idea why they keep getting installation aborted, when they could just use zergrush and be all good to go
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iBolski said:
As it is, if I have to go to 2.3.5, I hold off rooting until AFTER I've updated to 2.3.5. No need to root if I'm sbfing to 2.3.4 and updating to 2.3.5. The root is only needed when I'm ready to install BSR and flash a custom ROM.
This is what I do:
SBF to 2.3.4
Apply 2.3.5 update
Root
Install BSR
Flash 2.3.5 custom ROM
Done
To me, Rootkeeper just seems to cause more hassles and it's just easier to root after I'm done updating to 2.3.5. No need to root at the 2.3.4 level.
Of course, if you are already rooted at 2.3.4 and want to update to 2.3.5, I can see that, but Rootkeeper has been proven to cause issues and it just creates more work to avoid those issues.
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Q: On GB rooted, flashing back to Froyo backup?

i'm running P3's rooted gingerbread. it's not running as flawlessly as rooted froyo (HDMI doesn't work, cloud version google music doesn't work). i have a nandroid backup of froyo. can i just flash the backup froyo rom or do i need to sbf? i don't mind sbf'ing but i would like to avoid the hassle of having to sbf, reinstall everything, re root, re debloat, etc.
has anyone successfully flashed a backup froyo from gingerbread?
thanks.
I have considered rolling back to my 2.2 nandoid backup myself. I have both 2.3 and 2.2 set up the same (supercharged, debloated, sd speed increas, vold.file to switch sd external read as internal) and honestely 2.2 was faster and less glichy than 2.3 has been. I "think" you shoul be OK to flash your 2.2 backup from 2.3, but I am not positive about this so wait until others have chimed in to this thread.
google didn't find many results so i read the droidx forum. there are several threads in that forum stating that the X could NOT flash a backup of froyo when on gingerbread. boot up gets stuck at M.
i would assume that it's the same w/ the X2. i think the gb upgrade installed a new bootloader and this is the reason why you can't simply flash a backup froyo rom.
awaiting confirmation.
You can't load backups cross versions. You would need to sbf to froyo first, root and bootstrap, then load your backup. Like wise if you wanted to load a gingerbread backup you'd have to be currently on gingerbread.
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I flashed a backup a back up to froyo from gingerbread, it was messed up successfully booted but screen was so slow to the touch. End result SBF
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teegunn said:
I have considered rolling back to my 2.2 nandoid backup myself. I have both 2.3 and 2.2 set up the same (supercharged, debloated, sd speed increas, vold.file to switch sd external read as internal) and honestely 2.2 was faster and less glichy than 2.3 has been. I "think" you shoul be OK to flash your 2.2 backup from 2.3, but I am not positive about this so wait until others have chimed in to this thread.
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Unsupercharge and see how 2.3.3 runs for you. Kills froyo IMO
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2.3.3 had bad music skipping and pausing w/out supercharger. supercharger addressed the lag, for the most part. no way i could use 2.3.3 w/out supercharger.
anyway, i sbf'ed back to froyo, rerooted, loaded custom recovery, debloated, supercharged. i like it better than froyo. my hdmi out works. my cloud google music works. the music does not skip or pause. the only complaint is the screen lag coming out of sleep. i had forgotten about that.
now that i've tried 2.3.3, i'm staying w/ froyo.
h_10 said:
i'm running P3's rooted gingerbread. it's not running as flawlessly as rooted froyo (HDMI doesn't work, cloud version google music doesn't work). i have a nandroid backup of froyo. can i just flash the backup froyo rom or do i need to sbf? i don't mind sbf'ing but i would like to avoid the hassle of having to sbf, reinstall everything, re root, re debloat, etc.
has anyone successfully flashed a backup froyo from gingerbread?
thanks.
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Could you not sbf back to froyo, root and install bootstrap, then restore your nandroid backup?
definitely i could've. but i wanted to start from scratch and refreeze crApss and install supercharger. i like fresh starts.
For a sec I thought that said fresh farts HaHa
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Steroid Droid said:
For a sec I thought that said fresh farts HaHa
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The guy above you did mention crApps on his phone
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mistawolfe said:
Unsupercharge and see how 2.3.3 runs for you. Kills froyo IMO
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I've tried lots of variations. Supercharged is the best IMO.

Kernel Upgrading

Alright so I'm completely new to all the droid rooting and what not and I've been wanting to upgrade the eclipse v .7 ROM to the latest version which require you to upgrade the kernel from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4. So my problem I have no clue what so ever on how to upgrade the kernel. I've read a few posts on upgrading but they just don't seem to make sense to me.
kiyousho said:
Alright so I'm completely new to all the droid rooting and what not and I've been wanting to upgrade the eclipse v .7 ROM to the latest version which require you to upgrade the kernel from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4. So my problem I have no clue what so ever on how to upgrade the kernel. I've read a few posts on upgrading but they just don't seem to make sense to me.
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2.3.4 SBF
How-to SBF
The How-to SBF I linked you to is a very simple one to follow. MN-Shadow done a great job with his but may be overwhelming for someone with little to no knowledge of what they're doing.
Keep this REF Thread bookmarked. Booked does a nice job of keeping it updated. A lot can be found in many of those links if one takes the time to read through some of them.
So first I would upgrade the kernel and then flash the 1.3 eclipse mod?
kiyousho said:
So first I would upgrade the kernel and then flash the 1.3 eclipse mod?
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"Notes:
You must be on the latest 2.3.4 build prior to flashing this due to no kernel being included"
That quote is from the Eclipse 1.3 thread in the very first post, or OP...
So first you sbf, then after its on 2.3.4, root it with Pete's one click root. Then install the bsr (our hacked up clockwork mod) and flash eclipse with it.
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The only way to upgrade kernel for x2 is via sbf or OTA.
follow the links xodus provides and u will be just fine....don't be afraid...its not as it looks
just be sure to do exactly what the how to tells ya to ...be thorough
...
You defintely want to upgrade to 2.3.4....this was the best thing that ever happened to my X2....I was only days away from giving up on this phone when the leak hit,now Im loving it......
I would also suggest making a stock nano backup of your stock rom for 2.3.4 it might save you from another sbf if things go wrong. Then you can restore your stock back up instead of doing a sbf. Just a thought.
There was even a unreleased 2.3.5 update, and ROM's are most likely heading in that direction very soon. Nitro, who created the Eclipse ROM, asked his followers on Twitter if they would like to see a release on 2.3.5.

Question about bootstrap

Is bootstrap recovery the same as clockwork recovery? Are they one and the same?
Also I'm on kernal 2.3.4 do I have to do anything special if I want to load a 2.3.5 rom?
Sorry I'm new to playing around with motorola phones.
I thought they were the same when I first started hacking my phone. But it turns out they are not the same.
As for updating your phone to 2.3.5, if you are on stock 2.3.4, all you need to do is root your phone, install bootstrap recovery and flash the 2.3.5 ROM using bootstrap recovery.
There is a nice guide someone put together in the dev. Section.
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Basically, yes - those recoveries a almost the same. They are both used in the same way, which is to backup/restore, wipe data and flash a ROM. So there's no real difference.
As for the 2.3.4 kernel. SOME people can get away with flashing a 2.3.5 based ROM on their 2.3.4, others can't. Either way, I'd recommend just updating to 2.3.5 to safe. Plus (to me), 2.3.5 seems smoother and faster.
To Update to 2.3.5, just download the update.zip from here: http://www.multiupload.com/0ZT7FTOW0R
This is just the update file, so all you need to do is flash that, but I won't get into much about that.
If you need a guide on updating it, then you can look at this one right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391824
That's the one I used.
Ok so I'm currently on Molten 2.2 wich is a 2.3.4 romand was looking at liberty rom wich is 2.3.5 rom. So all I would need to do is just clear the needed data and flash it like any other rom?
The reason for asking about if it was clockwork was because in one of the roms the instructions says to use clockwork and I never saw a like to clockwork in the dev section
Yes I looked in the stickies first and these were just the questions that popped up that I didn't see the answer to it. I may have just over looked it but I figured I would ask before I borked my phone lol
looks like while I was writing a responce some one answered lol thank you all for your help
U don't need to root to install 2.3.5
It is signed by moto so we can flash in stock recovery
(actually that's how you SHOULD FLASH 2.3.5)
And our BSR is a hacked/ported cwm
To update to 2.3.5 you WILL need to be STOCK (you CAN be rooted but it will take away root when u flash it....just root again with zergrush...)
bsannes said:
Ok so I'm currently on Molten 2.2 wich is a 2.3.4 romand was looking at liberty rom wich is 2.3.5 rom.
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Just so you know, Liberty is a 2.3.4 rom. Have a look at the OP in that thread. If you're on Molten, just wipe data and cache and you should be set.

[Q] Questions about rooting my samsung fascinate

Im new to this rooting stuff and ive been trying to figure out how to do it by myself for weeks.
Can i root my fascinate if its version 2.3.5 and how??
Whats the purpose of rooting and what can i do after i do it?
The main reason why im attempting to root is to run a app called gameboid, is rooting the only way i can do it?
Thanks
Djp2012 said:
Im new to this rooting stuff and ive been trying to figure out how to do it by myself for weeks.
Can i root my fascinate if its version 2.3.5 and how??
Whats the purpose of rooting and what can i do after i do it?
The main reason why im attempting to root is to run a app called gameboid, is rooting the only way i can do it?
Thanks
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section 6 in this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
If I follow those steps in section 5, how do i go about putting ics 4.0.3 on my fascinate?
Djp2012 said:
If I follow those steps in section 5, how do i go about putting ics 4.0.3 on my fascinate?
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skip that section and follow section 4...
I was able to follow everything perfectly. Thanks for the help
If your wanting to put 4.0.3 then don't root your 2.3.5 because that would be wasted steps...there is a better way to do it.
Use Odin to flash a clockwork mod recovery, then put the ics zip on your ad card, then boot into the recovery and install the zip. Once installed the ROM will already come pre rooted
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kadin.zimmerman said:
If your wanting to put 4.0.3 then don't root your 2.3.5 because that would be wasted steps...there is a better way to do it.
Use Odin to flash a clockwork mod recovery, then put the ics zip on your ad card, then boot into the recovery and install the zip. Once installed the ROM will already come pre rooted
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already adressed that issue thanks
You don't need to be rooted to run emulators like gameboid.
However, since you're already looking into ICS, I'd recommend flashing it cause it's awesome.
Do we need a specific (blue) cwm or can i use red recovery for ics?
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You need cwm4 fixed for cm7. That cwm you mentioned won't work. Check droidstyle's guide in general fascinate forum. It will have all the info you need.

[Q] Question about going back to Stock (ROM?), currently on CM7.

I have CM7 currently running on my X2 and would like to go back to the stock ROM. I already searched the forums, "HowTo: Perform a SBF ("factory restore") of your Motorola Droid X2" was the closest topic I could find, but this unroots and locks the bootloader if I understand correctly. I would like to just know if there is a way to go back to stock without locking the bootloader and unrooting. Also, if I wanted to switch to another ROM right now instead of stock, how would I do that since I'm on CM7? I'm sorry for all the questions, I'm not that confident in what I'm doing, I've only rooted once and locked once and somehow managed to get CM7 on my phone.
So my questions are: How do I go back to stock ROM without unrooting or locking the bootloader?
How do I change the ROM to another custom ROM?
So confused. Your answers are appreciated!
AChavitez said:
I have CM7 currently running on my X2 and would like to go back to the stock ROM. I already searched the forums, "HowTo: Perform a SBF ("factory restore") of your Motorola Droid X2" was the closest topic I could find, but this unroots and locks the bootloader if I understand correctly. I would like to just know if there is a way to go back to stock without locking the bootloader and unrooting. Also, if I wanted to switch to another ROM right now instead of stock, how would I do that since I'm on CM7? I'm sorry for all the questions, I'm not that confident in what I'm doing, I've only rooted once and locked once and somehow managed to get CM7 on my phone.
So my questions are: How do I go back to stock ROM without unrooting or locking the bootloader?
How do I change the ROM to another custom ROM?
So confused. Your answers are appreciated!
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first , our bootloader has always been locked. i doubt this will ever change.
second, in order to install another ROM, just make sure it is for 2.3.4, and follow the instructions on the thread.
to get back to stock, find the EZsbf iso image, burn it onto a disk, and save yourself some time trying to learn how to use RSDlite. with the disk, sbf-ing is pretty straight forward, with step by step on-screen instructions.
here is the link actually, http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x2-hacks/41697-tool-ezsbf-dx2.html
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
first off, our bootloader has always been locked.
second, in order to install another ROM, just make sure it is for 2.3.4, and follow the instructions on the thread. to get back to stock, find the EZsbf iso image, burn it onto a disk, and save yourself some time trying to learn how to use RSDlite. with the disk, sbf-ing is pretty straight forward, with step by step on-screen instructions. here is the link actually,
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But, didn't we have to unlock the bootloader for the X2? I just rooted my Nexus 7 and I had to unlock the bootloader before I rooted it
So what happens? Does the phone get unrooted?
AChavitez said:
But, didn't we have to unlock the bootloader for the X2? I just rooted my Nexus 7 and I had to unlock the bootloader before I rooted it
So what happens? Does the phone get unrooted?
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no unlocked bootloader on this device.
when you sbf, the phone becomes unrooted. yes.
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
no unlocked bootloader on this device.
when you sbf, the phone becomes unrooted. yes.
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So the process of changing a ROM is SBFing back to stock (unrooting), rerooting, and then flashing the ROM? There's no way to jump from custom ROM to custom ROM? To change, you have to SBF to factory restore every time? This seems like a lot more work than it has to be. Isn;t there an easier way?
One last question, to SBF back to factory, do you have to get a .zip for the stock apps like I did for CM7?
install cm7 bsr, use it the same way as the normal dx2 bsr
install rom in dx2 system recovery (bsr)
you dont need to sbf, unless you are planning on flashing eclipse 2.3
then use 2.3.5 sbf
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sd_shadow said:
install cm7 bsr, use it the same way as the normal dx2 bsr
install rom in dx2 system recovery (bsr)
you dont need to sbf, unless you are planning on flashing eclipse 2.3
then use 2.3.5 sbf
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Wait, which question were you answering? I'm confused. I wanted to know how to get back to stock ROM, SBFing I'm assuming.
How can I jump from custom ROM to custom ROM. Wait, is that what you were answering? So I dont have to SBF if I have CM7 and I want another custom ROM? Just install from bootstrap recovery? Also, are all ROMS compatible with all phones? Because, I wa looking to get PARANOIDANDROID on my X2 because it looks cool, or is there limits?
AChavitez said:
Wait, which question were you answering? I'm confused. I wanted to know how to get back to stock ROM, SBFing I'm assuming.
How can I jump from custom ROM to custom ROM. Wait, is that what you were answering? So I dont have to SBF if I have CM7 and I want another custom ROM? Just install from bootstrap recovery? Also, are all ROMS compatible with all phones? Because, I wa looking to get PARANOIDANDROID on my X2 because it looks cool, or is there limits?
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oh boy.
AChavitez said:
Wait, which question were you answering? I'm confused. I wanted to know how to get back to stock ROM, SBFing I'm assuming.
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to get back to stock, flash SBF, or restore the nandroid you should have made before flash a rom
How can I jump from custom ROM to custom ROM. Wait, is that what you were answering? So I dont have to SBF if I have CM7 and I want another custom ROM? Just install from bootstrap recovery?
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yes, you don't have to sbf, if you are going to install a rom
there a couple of different bootstraps
stock bsr, and cm7 bsr, most of the roms require cm7 bsr
Also, are all ROMS compatible with all phones? Because, I wa looking to get PARANOIDANDROID on my X2 because it looks cool, or is there limits?
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use only roms made for DX2
AChavitez said:
Wait, which question were you answering? I'm confused. I wanted to know how to get back to stock ROM, SBFing I'm assuming.
How can I jump from custom ROM to custom ROM. Wait, is that what you were answering? So I dont have to SBF if I have CM7 and I want another custom ROM? Just install from bootstrap recovery? Also, are all ROMS compatible with all phones? Because, I wa looking to get PARANOIDANDROID on my X2 because it looks cool, or is there limits?
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if you are on cm7, any of the roms on THIS LIST ONLY will work. as LONG as they are for 2.3.4 . make sure it says 2.3.4. you dont have to sbf to flash a rom that is intended for 2.3.4 THIS LIST : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728456
also, do some more reading on that list on how to do things with this phone. please,.
read
HowTo: Perform a bootstrap (or nandroid) backup and recovery of X2
HowTo: Perform a SBF ("factory restore") of your Motorola Droid X2
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and the other links in my list
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like [HOW-TO-[VIDEOS] for Droid X2
This phone is complicated. The bootloader is not unlocked. Even though we have root and custom ROMs, the bootloader remains locked. This is why a lot of the ROMs that are based on CM9 or CM10 will have a good amount of bugs. Most still function good enough for a daily driver though. Even though we have CM9 and CM10 which is Android 4.0+, the kernel is still 2.3.4. This is the main reason anything based on 4.0 and above have issues. I hope that cleared some stuff up about the bootloader.
Next, like others have said, you can flash from ROM to ROM like any other phone as long as you are on Android 2.3.4. The only exception is Eclipse, which requires you to be on 2.3.5. But also, CM10 has a bug in the recovery where it prevents you from flashing a ROM over it. So if you decide to use CM10, you wont be able to flash back to CM9, CM7, PA, etc. or even flash an update to CM10 if or when it comes. Your best bet in this case is to backup a CM7 or CM9 or PA or whatever ROM other than CM10 so that you can go back from CM10 without doing an SBF. And again, like others have said, every time you SBF, you lose root. But its easy to quickly root it again.
I tried to explain this the best I could. Like I said, this phone is complicated. The devs have done the best they coud at keeping the DX2 up to date though.

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