1. Motorola has **** policies with their locked down bootloaders.
2. The devs here and at rootzwiki are the true gods of the android world.
Now that those are clear, I think I am done flashing this phone for now. It's my wife's phone and with all the custom roms there is always something that fc's or doesn't quite work right (yes i follow the correct steps). Going back to stock 2.3.5 with root because frankly for her needs stock root is just fine. Unless CM is fully ported over and stable or Fvckinh motorola unlocks the bootloader for truly custom roms, I am not bothering. It's really pathetic that a flagship 3g phone is abandoned by the manufacturer thus leading to poor interest from the dev community (the devs that are working on it, i am highly grateful to and hope their efforts bore fruit).
Once again FU motorola.
Lol I know what you mean about the wifes phone my wife has the bionic stock and not rooted. I have read the bionic forum and I feel confident I can root it make a nano back up and flash a rom on it. However she has seen me fight with my phone to many times lol. I told her it runs fine and I am always tweaking it to try and get more out if it. But I know the first time she gets a fc I will never hear the end if it. I almost rooted it and flashed a stock looking rom just to speed it up for her but like I said one thing goes and I will not hear the end of it.
But formyself I can say with the x2 i am very happy with eclipse and stock just seems horribly slow. Eclipse 2.02 and v6 supercharger and very stable and happy.
eclipse makes her contacts fc and she has been clawing my brains out. gonna try stock + supercharger v7 this weekend.
I had contact issues on 2.0 but 2.02 has been great for me. But I feel your oain not worth hassle of the boss.
Haha it took me forever to convince my mother that I could make a world of difference on her OG DROID if I ran CM. The first thing she did when I got home from school was hand me the phone. As I'm rooting, I wonder when the first hiccup will occur. She hated to admit how much better it ran when I first asked, but boy did the wrath come when the screen didn't turn on for a phone call.
She doesn't share the excitement for an unlocked bootloader as I do. " Just make sure Facebook is working"...
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Lol how do you think I feel I have the x2 wife has the bionic and we just got my son the galaxy nexus and i am the only one rooted and on custom roms. What a waste in my opionion but we all do not share the same opinion obviously lol.
Rooted my fiances phone and debloated it. She's on metro so its way bogged down with nonsense. Now her family thinks im some kind of phone guru lol.
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Ahhh yes. I too hold the title of Expert Computer Tech at home. Pull up the cmd screen and run ipconfig in Windows and onlookers will ask you what MIT was like. I just say I took a few of their summer classes, but it just wasn't working out.
GOOGLE <-- My wisest professor
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phieta said:
Ahhh yes. I too hold the title of Expert Computer Tech at home. Pull up the cmd screen and run ipconfig in Windows and onlookers will ask you what MIT was like. I just say I took a few of their summer classes, but it just wasn't working out.
GOOGLE <-- My wisest professor
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i can fight with her phone all i want, and i fight with mine occasionally too, but i dont want her to have to deal with a 100 things crashing and being weird. she doesn't demand the highest quadrant scores or something. she needs a good stable phone. sadly motorola has gimped the **** out of this phone and locked its bootloader. wish i hadn't bought her this phone. never buying motorola again thats for sure, until google starts overseeing their production themselves and makes phones with unencrypted bootloaders.
phieta said:
Ahhh yes. I too hold the title of Expert Computer Tech at home. Pull up the cmd screen and run ipconfig in Windows and onlookers will ask you what MIT was like. I just say I took a few of their summer classes, but it just wasn't working out.
GOOGLE <-- My wisest professor
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Lol!! too funny.
I get the same stuff.
pull up a terminal and put a few commands in and suddenly you''re a genius who can fix anything tech. related!
amazing what you can do when you just google what you need. lol
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eclipse makes her contacts fc and she has been clawing my brains out. gonna try stock + supercharger v7 this weekend.
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Get me a logcat. I cannot reproduce any contact issues.
What apps are being installed that have contact permissions?
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i can fight with her phone all i want, and i fight with mine occasionally too, but i dont want her to have to deal with a 100 things crashing and being weird. she doesn't demand the highest quadrant scores or something. she needs a good stable phone. sadly motorola has gimped the **** out of this phone and locked its bootloader. wish i hadn't bought her this phone. never buying motorola again thats for sure, until google starts overseeing their production themselves and makes phones with unencrypted bootloaders.
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Actually, all the bloat is from Verizon, not Motorola.
Also, Motorola WOULD unlock IF Verizon would allow it. But, for some reason, Verizon won't budge.
However, HTC somehow convinved Verizon to allow them to unlock the bootloader, so maybe Moto should talk with HTC to see what they did.
Motorola wants to unlock them. Verizon is the one being the jerk about it.
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Get me a logcat. I cannot reproduce any contact issues.
What apps are being installed that have contact permissions?
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oh crapp... i installed stock 2.3.5 without a nandroid. basically when i opened the contacts app and click a contact, com.motorola.contacts would fc. if i tried to access the contact from like a google voice window or something, same thing would happen. i would have to memorize a number after looking at the contact list and then put into the dialer to make a call.
i think facebook, google voice were the only 2 programs that did things with contacts.
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Actually, all the bloat is from Verizon, not Motorola.
Also, Motorola WOULD unlock IF Verizon would allow it. But, for some reason, Verizon won't budge.
However, HTC somehow convinved Verizon to allow them to unlock the bootloader, so maybe Moto should talk with HTC to see what they did.
Motorola wants to unlock them. Verizon is the one being the jerk about it.
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htc did it, so should motorola. if verizon can have the nexus on their network, unlocking the bootloader for a phone thats basically forgotten now shouldnt be a problem. and if everyone wants to be such a ****, what are leaks for.
i figured out the cause of the contacts fc-ing. titanium deleting the yahoo mail authenticator is somehow not liked by motorola contacts. but im still glad i returned to stock. speedy + build prop mashup make the phone really fast, and games like fruit ninja lagged on custom roms, that doesnt happen anymore. the aosp dialer was also garbage and did not support name searches which the motorola dialer does. now that i have deleted the 40 or so bloat apps the phone runs exceedingly well.
just wish douchebag motorola would unlock it already so that the stellar devs over here could get good roms going instead of wasting their time with the bootloader.
Related
Who's gonna pony up for the D4 tomorrow?
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Physical keyboard? No thanks.
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Meh. Spec wise it's nice, but it's really just a RAZR with a keyboard. Battery isn't that impressive, around 1800 mAh IIRC (Dx2 stock is 1500), and with 4G LTE this'll be another charge in the morning, charge in the evening type phone (if you last till the evening) AND the battery isn't even removable!
Plus there's always that bootloader issue and the fact it isn't running ICS, which means it'll be getting that after the razr, xoom and bionic.
No thanks. I'm good on Moto devices for a while anyway.
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Physical keyboard? No thanks.
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Who cares, just another locked down phone imo
The X2 is my final Motorola device ever. Motorola ticked me off with their broken promises and blatant disregard for the X2. They drop support on their phones faster than flies on crap.
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The X2 is my final Motorola device ever. Motorola ticked me off with their broken promises and blatant disregard for the X2. They drop support on their phones faster than flies on crap.
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+100 on that!
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Meh. Spec wise it's nice, but it's really just a RAZR with a keyboard. Battery isn't that impressive, around 1800 mAh IIRC (Dx2 stock is 1500), and with 4G LTE this'll be another charge in the morning, charge in the evening type phone (if you last till the evening) AND the battery isn't even removable!
Plus there's always that bootloader issue and the fact it isn't running ICS, which means it'll be getting that after the razr, xoom and bionic.
No thanks. I'm good on Moto devices for a while anyway.
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Razr with a keyboard is exactly what I want. Plus 4g.
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Honestly if any newer phone, I'd go with RAZR MAXX hands down. That battery let alone is worth it, and I'd love to see every newer phone have that size. That battery on the X2 is ridiculously big.
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The X2 is my final Motorola device ever. Motorola ticked me off with their broken promises and blatant disregard for the X2. They drop support on their phones faster than flies on crap.
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QFT!
I've got about 6 months left on this phone and then I'm done with Moto if they haven't changed their ways (which I don't see happening).
The x2 will also be my last Motorola phone. I miss being able to mod my phone. I have cm7 now but the lack of roms really makes me want to switch.
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There's not a lack of ROMs. In fact, we have a lot of ROMs:
Liberty - although it appears development has stopped
Molten - Magma is supposedly on the horizon
CM7 - another release is forthcoming in a few days per DZK
MIUI - still a work in progress
CM9 - not released yet, but DZK is working on it
Eclipse - Nitro is constantly working on this. 2.0.4 was just released.
So, lack of ROMs isn't an issue with this phone. I'd say we have quite a lot to choose from.
What has us upset is apparently, no ICS and no unlocked bootloader. The latter is a big issue because they promised they would start unlocking bootloaders. To this date, there is just ONE phone that has a bootloader unlocked and it hasn't been released yet - the Droid RAZR Developer Edition and who's to say whether or not Verizon will release this phone onto their network. My feeling is no AND I don't want to purchase ANOTHER Motorola phone just to get my bootloader unlocked.
That is really the ONLY reason I'm not going with Moto anymore. I'm also looking into getting off of Verizon. Problem is, I really need the coverage and no other carrier has the coverage I need in the areas I go to and I must have my coverage, period. So, I'm probably stuck with Verizon, so I just need to see if I can find a phone on Verizon that has the bootloader unlocked. Supposedly, HTC has been allowed to unlock some of their bootloaders on Verizon, so I'll probably go that route.
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So, I'm probably stuck with Verizon, so I just need to see if I can find a phone on Verizon that has the bootloader unlocked. Supposedly, HTC has been allowed to unlock some of their bootloaders on Verizon, so I'll probably go that route.
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HTC Rezound looks pretty nice doesn't it?
I'm not sure I could jump back to a physical keyboard. I like versatilitylity and i don't thI'd i'd want the bulk.
iBolski said:
There's not a lack of ROMs. In fact, we have a lot of ROMs:
Liberty - although it appears development has stopped
Molten - Magma is supposedly on the horizon
CM7 - another release is forthcoming in a few days per DZK
MIUI - still a work in progress
CM9 - not released yet, but DZK is working on it
ECLIPSE - Nitro is constantly working on this. 2.0.4 was just released.
So, lack of ROMs isn't an issue with this phone. I'd say we have quite a lot to choose from.
What has us upset is apparently, no ICS and no unlocked bootloader. The latter is a big issue because they promised they would start unlocking bootloaders. To this date, there is just ONE phone that has a bootloader unlocked and it hasn't been released yet - the Droid RAZR Developer Edition and who's to say whether or not Verizon will release this phone onto their network. My feeling is no AND I don't want to purchase ANOTHER Motorola phone just to get my bootloader unlocked.
That is really the ONLY reason I'm not going with Moto anymore. I'm also looking into getting off of Verizon. Problem is, I really need the coverage and no other carrier has the coverage I need in the areas I go to and I must have my coverage, period. So, I'm probably stuck with Verizon, so I just need to see if I can find a phone on Verizon that has the bootloader unlocked. Supposedly, HTC has been allowed to unlock some of their bootloaders on Verizon, so I'll probably go that route.
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When I first got my phone I had a choice between the Droid X2 or the Droid 3. I've never had an android phone before so I didnt know what the differences were as far as ROMs and such. So the only reason I didnt get the Droid 3 is because of the slide out keyboard. Not that I had a problem with a slide out physical keyboard (I DID have a Pre Plus before this), I would just never use it. I dont like using my phone in portrait mode. I dont know why. It just doesnt seem comfortable to me. So I wouldnt get a phone with a portrait slide out keyboard, which means I will probably never get a phone from the Droid series. Im fairly happy with my DX2. But then again, with this being my first android phone, I dont know what its like to have an unlocked bootloader. My next phone will probably not be Motorola just to see what other phones can do.
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HTC Rezound looks pretty nice doesn't it?
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Ummm hell yes, it does! WasabiWa83 has a Rezound (previous Droid X2 owner) and raves about it. It is quite possibly one of the most amazing phones I have ever seen. Unless something better comes out in the next few months, my next phone will be a Rezound.
P.S. - WasabiWa83 also does custom signatures, wallpapers, posters, etc for phones/computers if anyone is interested! I've had him do some for me (he actually created my sig, my phone's homescreen wallpaper, and my computer's desktop wallpaper), and his work is amazing, whether you want something big or small.
My sister just upgraded to a razr, so i snagged her x2. My daily driver is an inc2, but I thought this might be fun to play with. Is there anything that can actually be done to this? Doesn't seem like there are a lot of roms floating around for it. Am I stuck with motoblur? Is this destined to be an angry birds platform for my kids?
I don't need hand holding about how to mod, i'm running an early CM9 kang of ICS on my inc2, I would just like to know what the options are, what's recommended, or what should be shied away from. I've not used a motorola phone before, and know they're a bit tricky on the mod side.
I've tried liberty and eclipse on my gf's bionic. Both solid roms. Could probably theme them. The Cm7 looks like it might have a few glitches but maybe they aren't dealbreakers for u.
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CM7 is a great daily driver for the X2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21342515
I have really not had any problems with the rom at all.
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Eclipse is another great option. Receives support and has its own website http://www.eclipserom.com/.
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My sister just upgraded to a razr, so i snagged her x2. My daily driver is an inc2, but I thought this might be fun to play with. Is there anything that can actually be done to this? Doesn't seem like there are a lot of roms floating around for it. Am I stuck with motoblur? Is this destined to be an angry birds platform for my kids?
I don't need hand holding about how to mod, i'm running an early CM9 kang of ICS on my inc2, I would just like to know what the options are, what's recommended, or what should be shied away from. I've not used a motorola phone before, and know they're a bit tricky on the mod side.
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Quite a few choices for our little "blessing" of a phone. As the others have mentioned, Eclipse and CM7 I'm pretty sure are the most current and popular right now. Ran them both, you can't go wrong either way.
Good place to start to see the options.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313103
I neglected to add that you're not stuck with blur on CM7...all blur has been removed
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Cm7 or eclipse. Just remember if you go to eclipse 2.0+ you will need to update to 2.3.5
Eclipserom.com for up to date info.
Cm7 is awesome no blur at all! Only problem is HDMI is not supported.
If you want to try both on the same kernal for 2.3.4 then use eclipse 1.3 very stable and solid.
i'm very familiar with CM7. I ran that up until a week ago. Just wasn't sure it was where it was at on this phone.
CM7 for the most part is fine on this phone. I'm using it now. Biggest problem with the rom is that some have wifi issues. I do at times. For some reason it loses it's connection with the router and can't get reconnected. Some just have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to get it working again. That doesn't seem to work for me. I have better luck just going into wifi settings and clicking on the wifi connection I want. Seems to connect then. Also, from time to time apps that require root access have trouble. Sometimes when I open an app, it just shows a blank window while it waits for root access. It can be fixed by rebooting but I just press the home button, then open the superuser app and remove the problem program. Then open the program again and after allowing root access, it works fine again. Those are the only real problems I have with the rom. For me, they aren't deal breakers. I can live with them.
Otherwise, like others have said, Eclipse is a good rom. However, I myself prefer Liberty. I don't know why everybody seems to bypass it as a suggestion. When it first came out, everybody was all bent out of shape about it and what a great rom it was. Now, nobody mentions it. My guess is because there hasn't been any updates to it since it first came out. However, I myself don't really see why anybody would want any updates. It ran perfect for me. Not one ounce of trouble from it no matter what I did. I still jump back to it now. Just for a change of pace.
I haven't tried MIUI. From what I've seen, too many issues that I don't want to deal with. I could be wrong about it though, as, like I said, I haven't tried it.
Just my two cents worth.
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My sister just upgraded to a razr, so i snagged her x2. My daily driver is an inc2, but I thought this might be fun to play with. Is there anything that can actually be done to this? Doesn't seem like there are a lot of roms floating around for it. Am I stuck with motoblur? Is this destined to be an angry birds platform for my kids?
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Not chained to the thing with a contract? Sell it.
DaveRichardson said:
Not chained to the thing with a contract? Sell it.
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Over an inc 2??? Hell no sell the inc 2, root and flash cm7, your phone will be beast...
SMILE It's Not Illegal Yet
Well, my time as an X2 user has now officially come to a close. I know with all my rantings and ravings, I swore to NEVER purchase another Motorola device, but I was able to obtain a Droid RAZR and the issues with the X2 just made me have to bite the bullet and go with the RAZR instead.
All I can say is, the X2 is definitely a problem child and I can see why Motorola has decided to abandon it. The big issue has to be the memory, aka the lack of it. I know DZK is working hard on CM9 but he even states a lot of the current issues with the Alpha are due to the lack of memory the X2 has.
On the RAZR, things are smooth and music NEVER skips. My apps run great, including my games. And, since I didn't upgrade to the RAZR via Verizon (got the phone outside of Verizon), I was able to keep my unlimited data even though I switched to 4g. I also didn't have to pay the stupid $30 upgrade fee. So, that makes up for the fact that I went with ANOTHER Motorola phone. I just couldn't wait any longer and stick with the X2. It was just getting horrendous.
I'll still lurk around these forums and offer help where needed. I must say that this community is definitely VERY friendly and helpful. I haven't gotten a good handle on how the RAZR community is, but it appears to be pretty helpful.
In any case, Hasta la vista people!
Good to see you're happy with the Razr. Never knew you could keep all of your plan info if you buy from a 3rd party. Cheers!
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Good to see you're happy with the Razr. Never knew you could keep all of your plan info if you buy from a 3rd party. Cheers!
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It's because I didn't upgrade through Verizon. It wasn't a contract extension or anything. In fact, my new-every-two is STILL valid at this point.
So, if you can get a phone outside of verizon for free or cheap, do it. In fact, I'll more than likely stay on this phone for the next year or two and by then, my contract will be done and I can leave Verizon without penalty as I won't be under contract anymore.
I'll have to wait and see, though.
I don't buy the "memory" issue. The Sony Miro, just released, is only single core (800mhz) with 512 ram...and it's running ICS--so I'm hopeful for the DX2, especially if the the Linaro improvements eventually come to fruition.
With that said, I hope the Razr turns out to be a better experience Bolski. And all your ranting and raving was/is appreciated. Even though Moto-Rizon didn't come through, you put up a helluva fight and at a minimum, probably made them spend as much money replying to you as you spent on the DX2!
Cheers!
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I don't buy the "memory" issue. The Sony Miro, just released, is only single core (800mhz) with 512 ram...and it's running ICS--so I'm hopeful for the DX2, especially if the the Linaro improvements eventually come to fruition.
With that said, I hope the Razr turns out to be a better experience Bolski. And all your ranting and raving was/is appreciated. Even though Moto-Rizon didn't come through, you put up a helluva fight and at a minimum, probably made them spend as much money replying to you as you spent on the DX2!
Cheers!
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Yeah, who knows. As it is, it may even be an architectural issue with the X2, depending on how they put that thing together and how it manages memory.
In any case, it now sits on my desk shelf for now, relegated to the retired realm with all the other phones I have on there.
I will say, the RAZR is definitely leaps and bounds better than the X2. No music skipping, music sounds better, etc. There are some caveats with it, including SD flip-flop not working as nicely as it does on the X2. But, overall, I can live with that. Just means less games installed at one time.
My dad had the razr and is currently doing nothing with it. I'm wondering if I should save my money, hold out on the nexus and see if I can switch to his razr. Honestly I really like the device and I don't see any huge downsides to it.
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My dad had the razr and is currently doing nothing with it. I'm wondering if I should save my money, hold out on the nexus and see if I can switch to his razr. Honestly I really like the device and I don't see any huge downsides to it.
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I've heard mostly positive things as well about it.
iBolski, I wish you the best. Keep is posted here or in the Bored topics. Interested in how it settles in for you. We may have a few following you in a month or so.
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I don't buy the "memory" issue. The Sony Miro, just released, is only single core (800mhz) with 512 ram...and it's running ICS--so I'm hopeful for the DX2, especially if the the Linaro improvements eventually come to fruition.
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I don't buy it either! All those new "low-end" devices running ICS lead me to believe that Moto refuses to update this device to keep from losing out on sales of newer devices. Just look at the OP and what he did, X2 to RAZR....just like Motorola figured would happen
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I don't buy it either! All those new "low-end" devices running ICS lead me to believe that Moto refuses to update this device to keep from losing out on sales of newer devices. Just look at the OP and what he did, X2 to RAZR....just like Motorola figured would happen
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The only way I believe it is because of two things:
1) Dragonzkiller has stated the issue with the current implementation of CM9DX2 is memory based on the architecture of the X2.
2) My first droid, an LG Vortex, was a single-core processor running at 600mhz. It NEVER skipped music. It had MUCH less memory than the X2, etc. So, I really think the architecture of the x2, hardware-wise, is the culprit and no amount of programming will fix it, unfortunately.
I could be wrong and I hope I am, but so far, all the removal of the Motobloat hasn't removed it completely under CM7 or Eclipse. It has helped, but the problem still persisted and for me, it appeared to be getting worse as the phone aged. Heck, it even happened when nothing else was going on.
But in any case, all I can say is so far, I'm very happy with the RAZR. It's performance is top-notch. One thing I've noticed is, I had an extended battery in my X2 and the RAZR seems to keep pace with it, so I guess it's not all that bad. Juice Defender Ultimate definitely helps.
I don't understand the music skipping problem. I've never encountered this issue. The only time my music skips is when a call comes in, so that really doesn't count.
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I don't understand the music skipping problem. I've never encountered this issue. The only time my music skips is when a call comes in, so that really doesn't count.
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Try using Pandora, that skips pretty much when you do anything, also usually a guaranteed skip for music would be opening the app manager, it hates that lol
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Basically for me the skip only happens when I'm multitasking. If it's just playing music it's fine.
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I used my X2 as a mp3 player for work. I used YouTube, Pandora, and the music app for mp3s I already had on the phone. Music app was the only thing that ever skipped for me. When it did it was here and there. It would skip for a minute then stop and be okay again. Not really as bad as people here seen to say
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Thanks for all your efforts ibolski. From the looks of things I'll either be getting the razr or pre ordering the sgs3 before the data plan change to keep my unlimited data for a couple more years anyway.
Have to say I'm still leaning towards the razr because of the build quality in spite of the Locked bootloader. Anyway good luck from here and again thanks for your contributions to what is IMHO the best forum period.
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Played around with the razr for a good half hour and it does everything I need it too do quickly. 4G is great and the software is smooth. The MAXX is almost guaranteed ICS and battery life is impeccable. I'm finding that having my phone live and strong is a serious must when I'm out on the road as our bus radio range is terrible and the GPS phones we get can't make calls. I never get the chance to charge during the day.
The only issue being raised is the development aspect of the phone - more specifically the next version of android. Will moto pull a X2 and give a big fat NO to the device?
Thinking out loud...hehe
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Well if they do that, I think the devs here on xda have gotten android on the razr...again I "think"
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Triscuit said:
Well if they do that, I think the devs here on xda have gotten android on the razr...again I "think"
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I dont quite understand what you're saying?
thelowend said:
I dont quite understand what you're saying?
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Well, kexec is out for the razr which allows loading a custom kernel. Unfortunately, at this time only 1 core works, but they are working diligently on it to get it working with two cores. But, that's farther along than the X2 at this point.
Also, there are plenty of ICS leaks out there for the razr. They are unofficial leaks from Motorola and some people have been getting text messages from Motorola stating that ICS for the RAZR and RAZR MAXX is due out soon.
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Well, kexec is out for the razr which allows loading a custom kernel. Unfortunately, at this time only 1 core works, but they are working diligently on it to get it working with two cores. But, that's farther along than the X2 at this point.
Also, there are plenty of ICS leaks out there for the razr. They are unofficial leaks from Motorola and some people have been getting text messages from Motorola stating that ICS for the RAZR and RAZR MAXX is due out soon.
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Figured thats what was being referenced. Now I'm wondering about just getting a 3800 mAH battery for the Nexus...
Lord I am so indecisive.
Oops...I meant to say Ice Cream Sandwich
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I've been reading up on rooting and roming my DX2. I'm technically capable, but, stuff happens and I can't really afford for my phone to be down for a few days while I work out a problem.
So... I've been thinking about buying a used DX2 and use it as my testbed/spare phone. It wouldn't be activated, so I presume no OTA updates, but otherwise would that work? Can I do everything but OTA updates with a non-activated Droid X2 phone?
thanks in advance
Yes you can. You can even dl and flash ripped ota's. As a cheap backup this phone is great.
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GatorDad said:
I've been reading up on rooting and roming my DX2. I'm technically capable, but, stuff happens and I can't really afford for my phone to be down for a few days while I work out a problem.
So... I've been thinking about buying a used DX2 and use it as my testbed/spare phone. It wouldn't be activated, so I presume no OTA updates, but otherwise would that work? Can I do everything but OTA updates with a non-activated Droid X2 phone?
thanks in advance
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If you follow directions to a t, you won't have to worry about your phone not working. Just give yourself an hour or two and you got it.
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They have a point. Follow all the directions word for word. I have got in a hurry and forgot some steps in very crutial times and still have managed to get back to stock. Still no problems. And an hour or two, maybe less, is all it will take. If you need and advice on where to start or what you want to do, use the search. Still can't find it, just ask. Plenty of people here to lend a hand.
I appreciate the input folks. Really. However, as someone who develops linux kernel drivers for astronomy cameras and uses a linux laptop and some bash scripts (with 1wire devices) to control my beer brewing process - I know how easy it is to screw something up (and have many times in the past). I prefer to cover my arse before playing with something I *need* to having working. That, and I kinda like the idea of having a backup phone for when I drop mine in the toilet or something similarly stupid.
note: the step-by-step directions here are in direct conflict with another web sites step-by-step. Who is right? I'm going to gamble on this set, but just in case...
Thanks again everyone.
GatorDad said:
I appreciate the input folks. Really. However, as someone who develops linux kernel drivers for astronomy cameras and uses a linux laptop and some bash scripts (with 1wire devices) to control my beer brewing process - I know how easy it is to screw something up (and have many times in the past). I prefer to cover my arse before playing with something I *need* to having working. That, and I kinda like the idea of having a backup phone for when I drop mine in the toilet or something similarly stupid.
note: the step-by-step directions here are in direct conflict with another web sites step-by-step. Who is right? I'm going to gamble on this set, but just in case...
Thanks again everyone.
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Its good to be prepared. I like that. With this phone, however, Motorola supplies us with an "in case of emergency" option called an SBF file. If anything goes wrong, you just plug your phone into your computer, start the application and in about 5 to 10 minutes, you are back to square 1.
And about your note, which other site are you looking at? You can pretty much get everything you need for this phone in these forums. ROMs are not universal and you have to use stuff specifically made for this phone. So unless the other site was Droid X2 specific, it wont work.
Yea, I read about that and I'm encouraged. I'd still feel better about it if it was happening on a device I didn't care about though.
I'd rather avoid any finger pointing - it was a popular droid x2 specific site. It stated that using the "zergRush" would not work due to some file sig issue or something like that. I don't exactly recall at the moment.
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Yea, I read about that and I'm encouraged. I'd still feel better about it if it was happening on a device I didn't care about though.
I'd rather avoid any finger pointing - it was a popular droid x2 specific site. It stated that using the "zergRush" would not work due to some file sig issue or something like that. I don't exactly recall at the moment.
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The only problem that some have had with zerg is that it can delete some files to make space and has caused issues with flashing the newest eclipse...I haven't been on the newest eclipse so I personally have not experienced that particular issue
But I have used it numerous times with good results
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this phone is almost impossible to hard brick, if you mess something up it takes maybe 10 minutes to run through an sbf and then your right back to stock. zergrush issue is only for the 2.3.5 versions of eclipse otherwise it works fine.
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2.3.5? As in Android 2.3.5? My phone is stock 2.3.5 now and I need 2.3.5 after this is over with (and eclipse is the rom I was targeting). There's an issue with the compass on this phone and 2.3.4 - E & W are swapped when in portrait mode, held vertically. That's a big deal for me as I use a lot of astronomy apps that rely on that E & W being accurate.
This is why I want to make sure this works on a phone I'm not relying on at the moment.
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2.3.5? As in Android 2.3.5? My phone is stock 2.3.5 now and I need 2.3.5 after this is over with (and eclipse is the rom I was targeting). There's an issue with the compass on this phone and 2.3.4 - E & W are swapped when in portrait mode, held vertically. That's a big deal for me as I use a lot of astronomy apps that rely on that E & W being accurate.
This is why I want to make sure this works on a phone I'm not relying on at the moment.
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If you are going to flash Eclipse you do not want to use Zerg. You will need to use Pete's one click root.
Check out eclipserom.com as it is the official site for Eclipse.
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GatorDad said:
I've been reading up on rooting and roming my DX2. I'm technically capable, but, stuff happens and I can't really afford for my phone to be down for a few days while I work out a problem.
So... I've been thinking about buying a used DX2 and use it as my testbed/spare phone. It wouldn't be activated, so I presume no OTA updates, but otherwise would that work? Can I do everything but OTA updates with a non-activated Droid X2 phone?
thanks in advance
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Get a Samsung Fascinate, there are plenty of ROM available, ICS runs smoooooth and you can do much more with it.
My Droid X2 hits around 3600 on CM7.2 my Fascinate hits 3300 before I tweak the kernel and overclock it... There is just more available for that device.
Either or, I would suggest staying within these forums, if you don't see it here it isn't available...
PS I swap in and out between phones, it's nice to have a spare
Good luck with everything.
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Thanks, but I could care less about overclocking et al. While I'm a huge Samsung fan, I'm sticking with the DX2 for a while. I like it, and it's *rugged*. My son, a fireman, keeps his on him even when fighting fires. Have you seen how thick/heavy a fire suit is? You sweat your you-know-what off in one and you come out soaking wet - and everything else you had on you - phone included. He also has a 1 yr old who uses the DX2 as a toy. She chews on it, drops it, throws it and the damned thing still looks great and works perfectly.
Picked up the "spare" DX2 last night off ebay. I should be able to start playing early next week.
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Yea, I read about that and I'm encouraged. I'd still feel better about it if it was happening on a device I didn't care about though.
I'd rather avoid any finger pointing - it was a popular droid x2 specific site. It stated that using the "zergRush" would not work due to some file sig issue or something like that. I don't exactly recall at the moment.
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its not direct conflict, zergrush works on 2.3.4 and 2.3.5/1.3.412
not 2.3.5/1.3.418 which there is no direct root method
bricking is very unlikely with the locked bootloader, and the leaked sbfs
if you are trying to flash eclipse and 2.3.5/1.3.418 don't use zerg use pete's root tools
if this is confusing blame moto
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GatorDad said:
Thanks, but I could care less about overclocking et al. While I'm a huge Samsung fan, I'm sticking with the DX2 for a while. I like it, and it's *rugged*. My son, a fireman, keeps his on him even when fighting fires. Have you seen how thick/heavy a fire suit is? You sweat your you-know-what off in one and you come out soaking wet - and everything else you had on you - phone included. He also has a 1 yr old who uses the DX2 as a toy. She chews on it, drops it, throws it and the damned thing still looks great and works perfectly.
Picked up the "spare" DX2 last night off ebay. I should be able to start playing early next week.
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Excellent, I will agree on the ruggedness of the X2. I have dropped mine from far above on ladders...and it keeps on ticking
So, forgive me but you want to root and install a ROM on the X2??
Root with Pete's if you are on 2.3.4 then install ota rootkeeper and protect your root...at that you can update via ota and still keep root, after the update completes you just run rootkeeper again to restore root.
Depending on which ROM you want will determine which version of Android you'll need...
Eclipse is the only ROM that requires 2.3.5...
so if you're at Android 2.3.5 I would install boot strap recovery and create a NANDroid backup...
After you create your NANDroid backup you would just flash your ROM, wipe data...etc
If you're at Android 2.3.4 you can do the same as above, just skip the update (don't install it)
If you are at 2.3.5 and you want to install a ROM that requires 2.3.4 you will have to use Rsd to SBF your phone to that version of Android. You can find easy tutorials on how to do that in General...they are stickied....
I stay with 2.3.4 because all the ROM I flash require that.
Just root with Pete's and you'll be fine either way....
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GatorDad said:
I appreciate the input folks. Really. However, as someone who develops linux kernel drivers for astronomy cameras and uses a linux laptop and some bash scripts (with 1wire devices) to control my beer brewing process - I know how easy it is to screw something up (and have many times in the past). I prefer to cover my arse before playing with something I *need* to having working. That, and I kinda like the idea of having a backup phone for when I drop mine in the toilet or something similarly stupid.
note: the step-by-step directions here are in direct conflict with another web sites step-by-step. Who is right? I'm going to gamble on this set, but just in case...
Thanks again everyone.
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Can you please link to the site which is in direct conflict? It would be helpful in determining who's right or why conflict exists.
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Can you please link to the site which is in direct conflict? It would be helpful in determining who's right or why conflict exists.
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It's just confusing now that we are using Pete's again...
There is no other site
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Ok, read that you are on 2.3.5 already...sooooo you will need to SBF to 2.3.4 to start root and so on...
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No, as I stated earlier - it was another droid x2 specific site.
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It's just confusing now that we are using Pete's again...
There is no other site
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No, as I stated earlier - it was another droid x2 specific site.
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So when you receive your DroidX2 what are you going to do?
Surely there is an abundance of info abroad, but have you decided to just do it? Did you download Petes or Zergrush yet?
I hesitated at first, but bam I just did it. I had this whole thing worked in my head preparing to...what if... Then I just did it, exactly how others have stated. Root it, and don't look back, we are always here to help. Moon shadow has a couple guides here for rooting, sbf'ing, etc... If you're uncertain, just ask
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I just grabbed this phone from Verizon, since the dev community is small compared to my other 2 options (Razr HD Maxx and Galaxy S3), however, with this new pesky 2.04 OTA that came pre-installed on my DNA, it seems like the community is currently at a halt.
I have approx 10 more days to return my DNA and get a second choice (Razr or Galaxy), but the hardware is really holding me to the DNA. I don't care much for Sense, and I've always been a motorola fan, however I also love to dev and mess with my phones. So, how likely is this 2.04 unlock? Or should I just go ahead and switch phones? Both the S3 and Razr have great dev communities. S3 has 2gb ram while the Razr has 1gb ram BUT has that amazing battery.
What should I do? I'm so indecisive right now and it's killing me!
I wouldn't buy a phone based on what might happen in the future. If nothing else, you could always sell it and buy one unlocked and s off.
The S3 is decent although old and I suspect dev support is on the downhill slope. I'm personally not a fan of the Razr. If it was my choice to make I'd keep the DNA or sell it and get one unlocked, or get a Note 2 to hold me over until Verizon gets the next HTC. The DNA 2 or One Variant.
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why not take it back to the store and swap it out instead? Just don't let the store reps update your software. I never let them do anything more then activate my sim card
Guess its a good thing the woman that sold me mine was not familiar with smartphones, I had to show her how to take out the SIM tray. I declined the update so I could familiarize myself to sense coming from the razr maxx
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why not take it back to the store and swap it out instead? Just don't let the store reps update your software. I never let them do anything more then activate my sim card
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You think the phone was updated and didn't just come already preloaded with the new software? I don't remember having to sit through any update, she simply opened it, popped in the sim card, and had me log into my gmail. If that's the case, then I might try that route.
I came from the Maxx and think the DNA is so much more of a phone that I live we the battery size. I got to say that there is something innate to flashaholics that we must have the latest version and once we have it, we want to newest version. In the end, they all still do the same damn thing. We risk bricking, endless hours of trying to fix something we may have screwed up in flashing variants and trying every rom out there and trying again and again. The DNA is a great phone as is. You will always want the next phone regardless so make a decision based on the phone in your hand not what it may be like once you get rooted and start the insanity again of trying to make it better. You can deactivate bloat, hid things in app drawer, it is still blazing fast, a portable battery hub solves the battery issue better than having to plug in everywhere, the Qi pad is sweet, still fits in jean pockets and it has a beautiful screen.
I came from the Maxx and think the DNA is so much more of a phone that I live we the battery size. I got to say that there is something innate to flashaholics that we must have the latest version and once we have it, we want to newest version. In the end, they all still do the same damn thing. We risk bricking, endless hours of trying to fix something we may have screwed up in flashing variants and trying every rom out there and trying again and again. The DNA is a great phone as is. You will always want the next phone regardless so make a decision based on the phone in your hand not what it may be like once you get rooted and start the insanity again of trying to make it better. You can deactivate bloat, hid things in app drawer, it is still blazing fast, a portable battery hub solves the battery issue better than having to plug in everywhere, the Qi pad is sweet, still fits in jean pockets and it has a beautiful screen.
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Why do you have to point out the amazingness of this phone and make my decision even harder!? I do agree with you though. The DNA has amazing more-than-currently-needed hardware, and that's really what's making my decision so hard. I have faith in the unlock, and plenty of patience, but it's hard being a developer and not being able to dev. I hate being restricted. I'm almost to the point of getting the Note II, but the phablet size is keeping me away for now.
Thanks for the input!
I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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Before the update came out I didn't root or unlock because I think phone is amazing on a stock rom. HTC really did a nice job. Although once it stops getting otas I will unlock root and put a custom rom and kernel but until then I'm just staying on stock. I don't see anything wrong with it. And if I get the urge to flash something I just flash my n7.
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Before the update came out I didn't root or unlock because I think phone is amazing on a stock rom. HTC really did a nice job. Although once it stops getting otas I will unlock root and put a custom rom and kernel but until then I'm just staying on stock. I don't see anything wrong with it. And if I get the urge to flash something I just flash my n7.
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I am rooted and unlocked but the main reason I did it was to remap to recents button to long press menu just go get rid of the black menu bar.
Other than that I was very happy with stock.
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My DNA is still locked and unrooted and honestly it doesn't bother me too much. It is pretty awesome as is. Sure it has some annoyances but what phone doesn't?
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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Absolutely, it's a very smooth phone. And like broons said, there are small things that bug me. I would like to root for tasker, hotspot/tether, custom notifications bar (i really dislike the sense skinned not bar), power on with volume, remve gps icon, and remove the bloat completely. Those are what I would do instantly, with only root. But of course, the main reason would be to flash roms and take a crack at the source myself
Is there currently a team actively working on the 2.04 unlock?
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Absolutely, it's a very smooth phone. And like broons said, there are small things that bug me. I would like to root for tasker, hotspot/tether, custom notifications bar (i really dislike the sense skinned not bar), power on with volume, remve gps icon, and remove the bloat completely. Those are what I would do instantly, with only root. But of course, the main reason would be to flash roms and take a crack at the source myself
Is there currently a team actively working on the 2.04 unlock?
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Guys If you want an exploit email and twitter at HTC and HTCDEV to release the 2.04 kernel source which they are LEGALLY required to do and have no done so yet. There is seriously a likely exploit there.
I'd stick with the DNA...cm 10.1 is almost done and if devs can't figure out a root method...which i think they will...you can send it off to get s-off for like $40...its not impossible to get s-off
Current team says it is not likely. Kernel source may help.
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Current team says it is not likely. Kernel source may help.
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^ Truth.
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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The first thing I do is ROOT when I get a phone. However I can't on the DNA b/c I'm also on 2.04. I'm actually with AT&T using the DNA. I don't have LTE, and MMS only works using GoSMS which I don't really care for. Even with the MMS issue, no LTE, and no ROOT, this phone is still worth it. If I was an actual VZW subscriber, this would be the phone to have for sure.
I want ROOT to remove the horrid software install popups when connecting by usb and to wifi tether. Other than that, the stock rom is pretty smooth. The hardware is just too BEAST to pass up. I'm coming from the OneX which was a great phone as well, but the DNA runs circles around the OneX.
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I just grabbed this phone from Verizon, since the dev community is small compared to my other 2 options (Razr HD Maxx and Galaxy S3), however, with this new pesky 2.04 OTA that came pre-installed on my DNA, it seems like the community is currently at a halt.
I have approx 10 more days to return my DNA and get a second choice (Razr or Galaxy), but the hardware is really holding me to the DNA. I don't care much for Sense, and I've always been a motorola fan, however I also love to dev and mess with my phones. So, how likely is this 2.04 unlock? Or should I just go ahead and switch phones? Both the S3 and Razr have great dev communities. S3 has 2gb ram while the Razr has 1gb ram BUT has that amazing battery.
What should I do? I'm so indecisive right now and it's killing me!
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I have had numerous Moto phones and the Razr Maxx HD was a big disappointment for me; and I tried hard to love that thing. 32 GB of memory and a battery like no other, but they skimped out by only including 1 GB of RAM which gave me redraw after redraw. It reminded me of my old Charge. The DNA is by far the best stock Android phone I've ever had (15 and counting). If you don't like Sense, then just throw Nova or something similar on top. I would never own a Samsung phone again, but if you're okay with the plastic, crappy feel, the S3 probably has the easiest phone to root and the most custom ROM's.
If you guys want any hope of an exploit, Twitter and email HTC and htcdev to release the kernel source! They are violating the gpl by not doing that.
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Had the Razr as well and loved it but the 1gb of RAM was the problem. Had they put 2gb in the HD's, right now, they would be owning market.
The DNA is amazing even unrooted. Power toggles and Nova make this phone completely unique and i haven't even played with ADW and other launchers. Just crazy fast and lightning quick.