Guys,
Thanks to this forum I found out about the GPS issue and was able to cancel my order with OD on time. Once again, XDA saved me some troubles.
It seems this problem is very (!) similar to the one I had with my Tmobile Samsung phone. Nothing was able to fix that GPS.
Anyways, I have a problem.
I MUST buy a tablet this week to give to someone as a gift. GPS is important.
Considering the Prime is out of question, which one would you recommend? I'm researching and doing my homework, but it is also good to hear from you guys.
Thanks in advance.
nricci said:
Guys,
Thanks to this forum I found out about the GPS issue and was able to cancel my order with OD on time. Once again, XDA saved me some troubles.
It seems this problem is very (!) similar to the one I had with my Tmobile Samsung phone. Nothing was able to fix that GPS.
Anyways, I have a problem.
I MUST buy a tablet this week to give to someone as a gift. GPS is important.
Considering the Prime is out of question, which one would you recommend? I'm researching and doing my homework, but it is also good to hear from you guys.
Thanks in advance.
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If you need something right away. Galaxy Tab 10.1 is a good goto android tablet.
If you don't need it ASAP, wait until Q2 2012. They'll be rolling out a lot of new gadgets.
Thanks. Yes, I need it ASAP. Birthday gift. I don't have an option.
nricci said:
Thanks. Yes, I need it ASAP. Birthday gift. I don't have an option.
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Stick with the prime you wont regret it
tylermaciaszek said:
Stick with the prime you wont regret it
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This. 10chars
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tylermaciaszek said:
Stick with the prime you wont regret it
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+100000000000
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Realistic advice: Unless you want your friend to be ASUS's corporate guinea pig while they fix all of the quirks in the device, get the GTab or something comparable. Giving someone a gift in which they have to immediately be aware of it's defects and the possibility of RMA'ing it is a really crappy gift.
Thanks guys, but the GPS MUST be totally functional. Device WILL be used for navigation with Sygic.
My vote would also be for the galaxy tab 10.1 or 8.9. They work and look great. As a present unless the person likes messing with these the tab seems to be working well. Too many issues right now with the prime jmo. Btw I am typing this on a tab 10.1 but I have a prime on order. Not sure if I am going to cancel it or not. The geek in me still wants it so I probably won't.
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Stick with the prime you wont regret it
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I am also vacillating because of the concerns raised in this forum, however, due to the inconsistencies with reports of bad performance and stability, I am wondering if there was an issue with just initial batches and that newer ones (just built) are less likely to exhibit any of the serious issues raised with GPS and wifi?
I am going to wait for my (expansys-usa) order to be fulfilled. I don't think that a more appealing tablet will come out before June.
Is there some correlation with the defective (or working) units and a specific build date, build location and/or batch number?
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Galaxy Tab is still the best choice for an established Android tablet.
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well if you want a sub par device on specs, display, perfaormance and looks, get something else. If you want something that will truly be next level tableting, get the Prime. buff said!
THE POWER IS YOURS! choose wisely and don't settle for something less based on a few gripes a minority of users been having. if you absolutely need GPS...then get the prime and external Bluetooth GPS receiver bring in the new year with the most powerful Android tablet in the world. and will hold that title for the next 4-6 months easily. maybe longer.
it'll be silly to pay$499 for another tab that is outdated specwise and consumer wise. when you can pay the same price and have cutting edge technology. galaxy tab sux anyways..lmao touchwiz over honeycomb blows and lags even more than other build or versions of honeycomb. lmfao
Another vote for the Galaxy Tab 10 or 8
Also the Sony Tablet looks very nice
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Another vote for the Galaxy Tab 10 or 8
Also the Sony Tablet looks very nice
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Really...???
Sony Tablet looks thick and clunky to me. Besides Sony product integration with ir remote control, i don't think the Sony looks interesting at all. plus, it's expensive.
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Really...???
Sony Tablet looks thick and clunky to me. Besides Sony product integration with ir remote control, i don't think the Sony looks interesting at all. plus, it's expensive.
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its actually pretty nice. not as thick as it looks. I've played around with it in person. its a decent tegra2 tab. but it wasn't as much of a success as Sony would've hoped for. alot of issues with lag surrounding it. if anything I were to get other than Prime, it would be the Galaxy tab 7.7. it will have the best display and most powerful out of the Tab lineup. that galaxy note is really nice also. eliminate a device and that can be used as a tablet also. that 5.3in screen is huge and beautiful for a phone/tablet.
Guys, listen to what the dude sez. He needs good GPS. This is for his friend, not for you.
The only Android tabs with good wireless performance are the Xoom and the Samsung GT 10/8.9. I like the Xoom since it has more I/O (SD slot, micro-USB), but it's heavy and its look is at best industrial. So the only proven choice is the SGT.
If it's for a woman, suggest the 8.9 for lighter weight and easier handling, w/o sacrificing resolution. In fact, if it's for on-the-go use, you may also consider the SGT 7 Plus for yet more portability. The 8.9 would be the sweet spot, though.
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Guys, listen to what the dude sez. He needs good GPS. This is for his friend, not for you.
The only Android tabs with good wireless performance are the Xoom and the Samsung GT 10/8.9. I like the Xoom since it has more I/O (SD slot, micro-USB), but it's heavy and its look is at best industrial. So the only proven choice is the SGT.
If it's for a woman, suggest the 8.9 for lighter weight and easier handling, w/o sacrificing resolution. In fact, if it's for on-the-go use, you may also consider the SGT 7 Plus for yet more portability. The 8.9 would be the sweet spot, though.
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the 7.7 version is the best one. more powerful and better display. coming out anyday now really. if it has to get it now, go with the 8.9 like emote said. or maybe even the Note or Galaxy player
demandarin said:
choose wisely and don't settle for something less based on a few gripes a minority of users been having. if you absolutely need GPS...then get the prime and external Bluetooth GPS receiver bring in the new year with the most powerful Android tablet in the world. and will hold that title for the next 4-6 months easily. maybe longer.
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Wow, I didnt know 50-60% failure rate on GPS and other things were "a few grips a minority of users been having"...really? Then why are the forums exploding with mostly negative reviews? the minority and very very lucky are the ones that have all their dreams in a good tablet.
I am quickly becoming one that am tired of factory reseting my tablet 2-3 or more times a day because the screen is unresponsive or it just decides to do random screen selections. I have high hopes that maybe..just maybe it will be fixed in ICS...but i'm a realist.
oh, and Acer and HTC will be to market soon..so the "next 4-6 months easily..maybe longer" statement is based on factless and honestly niave speculation.
By the tablet and play the lottery. 50% chance you'll get a superb device...50% chance you'll get a 499 POS. You have to decide for yourself if your willing to deal.
As of now, i'm cancelling my other Newegg preorder and will probably return this one..but since i've got 30 days to return to gamestop..and the the manager has seen first hand my problem..(oh..and the district manager returned his on friday becuase of the screen issues and lockups...) i'm going to play with it for a bit longer and see what happens mid january if at least on thing can go right with this device...release of ICS.
Hey it's the new year. Let's give peeps the benefit of the doubt and not be so quick on the trigger. Peace and good will and all that. Think positive thoughts.
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Wow, I didnt know 50-60% failure rate on GPS and other things were "a few grips a minority of users been having"...really? Then why are the forums exploding with mostly negative reviews? the minority and very very lucky are the ones that have all their dreams in a good tablet.
I am quickly becoming one that am tired of factory reseting my tablet 2-3 or more times a day because the screen is unresponsive or it just decides to do random screen selections. I have high hopes that maybe..just maybe it will be fixed in ICS...but i'm a realist.
oh, and Acer and HTC will be to market soon..so the "next 4-6 months easily..maybe longer" statement is based on factless and honestly niave speculation.
By the tablet and play the lottery. 50% chance you'll get a superb device...50% chance you'll get a 499 POS. You have to decide for yourself if your willing to deal.
As of now, i'm cancelling my other Newegg preorder and will probably return this one..but since i've got 30 days to return to gamestop..and the the manager has seen first hand my problem..(oh..and the district manager returned his on friday becuase of the screen issues and lockups...) i'm going to play with it for a bit longer and see what happens mid january if at least on thing can go right with this device...release of ICS.
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just take a look at the polls. on TransformwrForums there's a poll asking if people have issues. more than 70% said No, perfectly happy with it. check out all the various polls here. all of them show Prime in good light. people with issues are the minority, point blank. plus actually xda is the only blowing up with people complaining. TransformerForum is moving along very smoothly without all the threads of complainers. most of these people with issues are same ones posting a million different threads on same issue.
yes, the issues are real. but alot of them are overexaggerated. look at all the various polls in this section people made to try to make prime look bad. all it did was back fire and show the majority doesn't have issue. like the wifi poll shows majority don't have issues. the other poll on various issues. majority voted no problems and completely satisfied with device. sorry buddy, my device works perfectly fine. no issues. and do do most of other Prime owners also. its always the negative ones who will whine/be vocal the most in making threads. the positive people came out n voted in polls to show what most speak of is morsel isolated. most don't care about GPS, whether working or not. its not a dealbreaker for me. and since my display, performance, and wifi is great, I'm good
his quote on get the tablet and play the lottery is funny though. n actually Acer and other tab you mentioned will not be out soon cuz no other tablet has an official release date from manufacturer. keep dreaming buddy
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Looks like I might not purchase the Prime after all. I was waiting on it but reading all of these nightmares makes me want to wait and see what this bad ass toy has to offer at CES next week.
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Looks cool, but without the dock I'm personally not interested.
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For me it is the dock that makes Transformer Prime really worth it. I don't understand anyone who buys Prime without the dock, since it is not better than other high-end tablets in the market and has quality issues that the other high-end tablets do not have. I would buy something like Prime without the dock only if it was actually much better than the competition (higher clocked dual-core processor (quad-core is only really useful for games), 2GB of RAM, working GPS with better WiFi). Right now the Prime's non-existent GPS and weak WiFi alone are reasons enough to consider Galaxy Tab or iPad instead of Prime, especially since the only means of internet connection on Prime is through WiFi as opposed to 3G on its competitors.
So yeah, the only reason Asus has me as a customer is because they give me something others do not. Asus UK seems to understand this rather well too, since they are only offering the device with the dock. It's as if they know it would not sell well otherwise.
are either of the two games shown in the teaser even on android?
also: enjoy waiting until at LEAST march, but probably june for anything that is announced at CES to be available to purchase.
How is a device that we don't know what it looks like, what feature set it has, how many cores it's get, what the additional peripherals are, supposed to be an TP killer?
For goodness sake, the article doesn't even know whether it's going to be on android.
Sorry, you got some wrong sources, this is not about a tablet at all, this ad is for the Razer Switchblade, which is a kind of gaming netbook - you could also deduce this from the link at the end of the video - PCgamingisnotdead . com
It has nothing to do with Android, tablets and the Transformer Prime
It's one quite expensive gaming netbook for 2800$
More info about the device, which is definitely not a Prime killer - search for Razer Blade or Razer Switchblade (I was going to link it, but I'm a new member and apparently I cant )
If it's from Razer, you can bet it's overpriced. Just look at the Blade.
Razer usually makes crap so you can expect some really big stupid bugs in it like most of their stuff. Maybe like a handsfree GPS deathgrip, oh wait!
I'm hoping CES has something about the Google Tablet... I am hoping for something to be announced before the return window for the Prime closes because while I could live without GPS, I can't live without bluetooth which I essentially don't have in my Prime right now.
I bought their Mamba mouse, a decision I regret daily. Runs out of battery in 1 day, takes about 3 hours to get any computer to recognize it in wireless mode. And I paid way too much for it. I am sure the tablet will be a pain in the ass somehow too.
I don't like Razer either, their products usually have a very strange nerdy look, I mean look at their laptops:
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kristovaher said:
For me it is the dock that makes Transformer Prime really worth it. I don't understand anyone who buys Prime without the dock, since it is not better than other high-end tablets in the market and has quality issues that the other high-end tablets do not have. I would buy something like Prime without the dock only if it was actually much better than the competition (higher clocked dual-core processor (quad-core is only really useful for games), 2GB of RAM, working GPS with better WiFi). Right now the Prime's non-existent GPS and weak WiFi alone are reasons enough to consider Galaxy Tab or iPad instead of Prime, especially since the only means of internet connection on Prime is through WiFi as opposed to 3G on its competitors.
So yeah, the only reason Asus has me as a customer is because they give me something others do not. Asus UK seems to understand this rather well too, since they are only offering the device with the dock. It's as if they know it would not sell well otherwise.
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That sir, is pure bull****.
It is a great tablet with high end specs. Its even cheaper then the Galaxy Tab 10.1
Galaxy Tab 10.1N 32GB: €535
Asus Transformer Prime 32GB + dock (worth about €150): €599 - €150 = €449
Not to note the better things the Prime has to offer vs. the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (and others) (fast RAM, Tegra 3, awesome display, keyboard).
Also, Asus is very fast with updates (are you aware that Samsung did release Android 3.2 for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 a week ago or so? Asus did that a couple of months back.).
It is just the best tablet today, with or without dock.
That tab OP linked to SUX . lol
it didn't list anything prime can't already do. those games are nothing as prime can handle the same thing since Tegra3. developers been said it'll be easy to port PC games and such to Prime/tegra3 without any loss in quality. they said for the first time they can developement in parallel since no dumbing down has to be done.
Prime would eat that Razr tab alive
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It is just the best tablet today, with or without dock.
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Maybe for you. For me it is not the best tablet, I'll be buying it just because it has a dock.
In RAM and processing power it is weaker than iPad 2. It can defeat iPad in some tests, but loses out on others. Everybody says that ICS will change things, but we just do not know if it does. Not yet.
Not having GPS is a drawback in comparison to iPad 2 and Samsung Galaxy Tab. Not having 3G is a drawback. Having weak WiFi is a major drawback since it does not have 3G.
If you only use it to play games and watch videos then I agree, it is the best tablet out there. But as a mobile internet device it just does not compete with iPad 2 and Galaxy Tab.
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Maybe for you. For me it is not the best tablet, I'll be buying it just because it has a dock.
In RAM and processing power it is weaker than iPad 2. It can defeat iPad in some tests, but loses out on others. Everybody says that ICS will change things, but we just do not know if it does. Not yet.
Not having GPS is a drawback in comparison to iPad 2 and Samsung Galaxy Tab. Not having 3G is a drawback. Having weak WiFi is a major drawback since it does not have 3G.
If you only use it to play games and watch videos then I agree, it is the best tablet out there. But as a mobile internet device it just does not compete with iPad 2 and Galaxy Tab.
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Yeah sure, 1 GB & Quad core 1,3GHz (5 cores) (Prime) vs 512MB & Dual core 1GHz (2 cores) (iPad 2). You know the WiFi iPad 2 doesn't have a GPS either huh? Only 3G versions have a GPS.
WiFi is in line with the iPad 2 and Galaxy Tab 10.1 btw.
Check your facts mate.
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Maybe for you. For me it is not the best tablet, I'll be buying it just because it has a dock.
In RAM and processing power it is weaker than iPad 2. It can defeat iPad in some tests, but loses out on others. Everybody says that ICS will change things, but we just do not know if it does. Not yet.
Not having GPS is a drawback in comparison to iPad 2 and Samsung Galaxy Tab. Not having 3G is a drawback. Having weak WiFi is a major drawback since it does not have 3G.
If you only use it to play games and watch videos then I agree, it is the best tablet out there. But as a mobile internet device it just does not compete with iPad 2 and Galaxy Tab.
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The dock is great, but it really sounds like you are not terribly satisfied with the prime. Why don't you get an iPad 2 or Galaxy with a Bluetooth keyboard, and a case which allows them to be a single unit?
... and you do realize that the wi-fi only iPad 2 does not have GPS?
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Looks like I might not purchase the Prime after all. I was waiting on it but reading all of these nightmares makes me want to wait and see what this bad ass toy has to offer at CES next week.
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What's a prime killer? GPS
Like others have said, its not just the tablet itself but the tablet/dock combination that makes Transformer unique and more desirable than other tablets. If Samsung or other manufacturers offer the same then we might have some competition but as it stands right now, TP is in a league of its own and that is why despite its shortcoming has a great demand for.
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Maybe for you. For me it is not the best tablet, I'll be buying it just because it has a dock.
In RAM and processing power it is weaker than iPad 2. It can defeat iPad in some tests, but loses out on others. Everybody says that ICS will change things, but we just do not know if it does. Not yet.
Not having GPS is a drawback in comparison to iPad 2 and Samsung Galaxy Tab. Not having 3G is a drawback. Having weak WiFi is a major drawback since it does not have 3G.
If you only use it to play games and watch videos then I agree, it is the best tablet out there. But as a mobile internet device it just does not compete with iPad 2 and Galaxy Tab.
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Prime has far more processing power than ipad2 as far as CPU goes. now if you meant how ipad2 gpu a lil more Power then OK. BUT even that claim has been debunked by developers n reviewers. they said yeah the ipad2 gpu may score better in synthetic benchmark tests BUT real world results will have Tegra3 providing a better looking version of anything ipad2 would have. so your claims there are false also. if you felt so disappointed by Prime, f#&! the dock. go get u ipad2 with their crappy wireless keyboard and only 512mb of ram. with a piss poor front and rear cam. come on now..lol. the prime ain't selling out like crazy for nothing. Prime is here to stay and will continue to hold Crown of Best and Most powerful Android tablet ever created. plus will hold this title for several months as nothing is expected to release anytime soon.
The hype isnr about ipad2 or galxyvtab. the hype is about the Prime. Get used to it. The Prime is the best deal out there for what it offers. plus look at the updated Anadtech article addressing the GPS issue. He said the GPS issue isn't important enough to change his view on his reccomendation of tablet. they still hold it as the best ever and best deal for what it offers.
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tbns said:
The dock is great, but it really sounds like you are not terribly satisfied with the prime. Why don't you get an iPad 2 or Galaxy with a Bluetooth keyboard, and a case which allows them to be a single unit?
... and you do realize that the wi-fi only iPad 2 does not have GPS?
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that's what I'm thinking. instead of griping about it, just get something else. one of those outdated tabs he mentioned. because constantly downing the tablet then saying you still going to get one is a living contridiction. if I was so unsatisfied I wouldn't get one. regardless of keyboard dock. doesn't make sense.
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Prime has far more processing power than ipad2 as far as CPU goes. now if you meant how ipad2 gpu a lil more Power then OK. BUT even that claim has been debunked by developers n reviewers. they said yeah the ipad2 gpu may score better in synthetic benchmark tests BUT real world results will have Tegra3 providing a better looking version of anything ipad2 would have. so your claims there are false also. if you felt so disappointed by Prime, f#&! the dock. go get u ipad2 with their crappy wireless keyboard and only 512mb of ram. with a piss poor front and rear cam. come on now..lol. the prime ain't selling out like crazy for nothing. Prime is here to stay and will continue to hold Crown of Best and Most powerful Android tablet ever created. plus will hold this title for several months as nothing is expected to release anytime soon.
The hype isnr about ipad2 or galxyvtab. the hype is about the Prime. Get used to it. The Prime is the best deal out there for what it offers. plus look at the updated Anadtech article addressing the GPS issue. He said the GPS issue isn't important enough to change his view on his reccomendation of tablet. they still hold it as the best ever and best deal for what it offers.
The prime + dock is an amazing combination but I completely agree that the tablet on it's own gives nothing that's that special. the galaxy has CM9 now, which everyone who has used it says makes it fly, so I'm sure you won't notice such a huge difference between them, not to mention the difference in speed you are likely to see vs a prime with bad wifi. there are primes with good wifi but many people are having to fight through exchanges to get them. and comparing any android tablet on specs to the iPad is ridiculous since they have different OSs, and so use their specs differently.
I am still waiting for my prime purely because of the dock, and a hope that mine will have no wifi/bluetooth issues.
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Razer likes to over-reach at the conceptual stage. Last year they had everybody in ooohs and aaahs at their switchblade concept.
It started as this...
and finally ended as this...
Which was initially supposed to hit the markets pre-christmas at a whopping $2800. Still not out, however, due to hardware delays (specifically the SSD).
I'm not bashing the end result - it's still an incredible looking machine. But it's easy to recognize the gap between their concept piece and end-result. I wouldn't bank your desire for a tablet purchase in the near-future on them. Switchblade went from concept at CES '11 to deviated end-result that still isn't out by the following CES '12.
They are ambitious, and make some nifty peripherals (although not without their share of negative feedback). Largely, they are good at marketing, possibly a little too good at it as the end-results tend to fall a little shy of their blog-hyped press-releases and snazzy concept photography.
Now CES is mere days away, and i might be caught eating my words by mid-July when they magically drop a shiny new tablet on the market . All I'm suggesting is don't take Razer marketing as gospel - it's very much crafted to generate hype - sometimes more than is warranted when the end-result shows up.
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The prime + dock is an amazing combination but I completely agree that the tablet on it's own gives nothing that's that special.
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Nothing special.. lets keep that remark until the real tegra 3 games start sprouting up?
Gal tab will excrete blocks of hardened clay when the T3's gloves come off.
I just wanted to share my experiences with the ASUS Transformer Prime after 7 days of owning one...
So when the Prime was first announced, I immediately decided that was going to the first and only Android tablet I get.
It had the specs. It had the looks. It had the good initial reviews.
Then when the Prime was released in the US, the first rumblings started to come out that the Prime was not as perfect as it seemed.
I was determined not to pay too much attention to the issues that people were having and wait to get mine to make my own mind up.
So on 2nd Feb, bought my Prime. And the first 48 hours were great; the tab had excellent build quality, the OS was nippy and there was the added novelty of the keyboard dock.
Boredom set in; there are not a lot of Android tablet apps out there; the apps that were updated to work with ICS scaled up beautifully, but are still very limited. The few optimised apps I could find were just OK, not great.
Also really dumb things began to irk me within the OS; setting something as simple as wallpaper was hit and miss. Sometimes the display would refuse to show icons or widgets without a reboot.
Then the bottom segment of the display would glitch and flash.
Talking of Flash, once I installed Flash 11 on the Prime, the performance took a bit of a hit; the browser was sluggish and wouldn't render properly;
I also had issues with DLNA; the devices in my house (Xbox, PS3, iPhone, Mac) can all see the folders on my Buffalo NAS with no issues. The Prime refused to see anything but the Music folder.
Bad.
Then we had the hardware issues.
The issue with GPS is well known; no lock whatsoever indoors…Outside, 5 MINS to get a lock on ONE satellite.
I thought "meh, it's not like I'm gonna use it…"
- Wi-fi signal would drop even when I was close to the router and even on a clear channel
- Camera quality for an 8MP camera was not as good as the iPhone 4S
- Light bleed on the right side of the display was bad as well…
- Battery was lasting 6-8hrs max;
It was at this point, I started thinking: This has just cost me £500.
It was something that I had been looking forward for weeks, had saved and sacrificed for… and I'm disappointed with it…
£500 is a lot of money for a device with so many flaws; it felt like a beta product.
It also didn't help that ASUS decided to announce an upgraded model with a fix for the GPS issues and that will probably have a better QA process.
Software-wise, Android has momentum… but it's not there yet.
I wanted to use BBC iPlayer; there is no app for tablets available and you can't even use the website because it's not supported; it's the same with Sky Go.
Both of these services have fully functional iPad apps, by the way.
There just simply are not enough decent quality or killer apps for Android tablet at the moment. Specs mean nothing without content to take advantage of them.
In hindsight, it was probably too early for me to get an Android tablet. As much as I like to tinker, at the same time I need something that is functional and just works.
I returned the Prime today; gutted I had to, but there too many issues and niggles that would have prevented me from justifying spending £500 on something that's not ready for primetime (excuse the pun).
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There just simply are not enough decent quality or killer apps for Android tablet at the moment. Specs mean nothing without content to take advantage of them.
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Attacking the Prime gets you flamed. Attacking Android gets you incinerated. Be prepared.
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Attacking the Prime gets you flamed. Attacking Android gets you incinerated. Be prepared.
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It's not an attack, thank you.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 and it's brilliant; I've had no issues with it in nearly a year and it's been rooted and all sorts.
Android is a great platform, but the critical mass is not there for apps yet.
The Prime is a cracking bit of kit; ASUS kinda screwed up by releasing a hyped product with so many issues, then made it worse by announcing an better version within days of the retail launch.
The point was to share experience, not start a flame war. Your post doesn't help.
Just return and it wait for a tablet that works properly. This forum is full of people trying to justify their 600 dollar purchase with blind fanboy logic. Any idiot can see this tablet has severe issues, some of which no software update will ever fix.
So let me save people the time and I will post the responses you are likely to hear.
"Mine works just fine.. sucks for you"
"Must be user error".
"My wifi works great"( manyof these people are clueless on how to even test wifi signal)
And the ever popular "cool story bro"
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I actually thik the opposite. IMO, iOS sucks. Apple was never a cloud company and it is still a cloud wannabe. Google has always been a cloud company. Gmail, Docs, Chrome, great stuff. I am quite content with the apps available for Android. I even found QGET for my QNAP, was surprised to see that. More will come.
Good decision imho. It didnt do what you bought it for (what ever that was, not clear to me from your post).
I'm still very happy with it. No issues. Yeah software could (and will) be better. But this thing does everything i need and it does it good. Watching full high quality flash in the browser is a huge plus for me.
One thing though, i never had an ipad - so i guess i dont know how it is when you have dozes of "tablet" apps.
What is different about those compared to apps on android tablets? The layout of them? The features? I really like the idea behind ICS and the unification of apps for phones/tablets. Only problem it was just released^^ Think about the first 6 months the ipad was out.
But still i have a nice looking "tablet" app for everything i need. Great pdf reader&book reader, very nice newspaper app was already installed offering local newspapers. The music app is stunning and feels just so good, Gmail, Polaris office, many very good choices on browsers, video player software and keyboards. Stuff like Titanium Backup? Not even windows has such a good backup system.
The simple and accessible file system android has... I dont know iOS just has absolutely no chance on a tablet compared to android. IMHO. I'm sounding like a fanboy but plz show me why iOS is so much better on a tablet? There must be some really freakin awesome apps^^
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I think there is a big difference. Jobs once said today its all about apps on mobile devices. People want to use an app for everything instead of using the "internet". At least thats what apple advertises... But for me that isnt true at all. When i read news, i use the browser and if I want to watch starcraft games or TV i use websites for that as well. Google is a total browser company, chrome alone shows that. And i guess thats why ios will never be better for what i'm looking for.
i cant see apple last forever. Android is individuality. iOS is conformity. Now think about what modern society is and how people are today.
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There just simply are not enough decent quality or killer apps for Android tablet at the moment. Specs mean nothing without content to take advantage of them.
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Although I love Android and my Prime, I completely agree with this statement 100%. That's what I've been telling people when they try to be like oh there's a new model tf-700 coming out, or new Lenovo crap tablet, or Samsung Ipad wannabe tablet, or whatever with higher specs. Higher specs don't mean jack of we don't have the software to fully utilize it. Its no secret that Android tablets are more powerful spec wise than Ipad or ipad2. Thing apple has downpacked is they make the most with what they have. Apps are 100% optimized for the spec on IOS devices. Just like at the beginning here, when people were crying about 1Gb of rAM not being enough to succeed. Well tell that to the sales figures of ipad1 and ipad2. My ipad1 only has 256mb of RAM. Ipad2 only has 512mb of RAM. Yet they own majority of tablet market n sell the most. The software and hardware apple brings mesh very well. I got tired of being locked down to Apples rules and very glad I got my Android tablet. My Prime kills ipad1 or 2 n looks or power or whatever. BUT they still have advantage of having wayyyy more tablet only optimized apps. There's no denying it. App store has a huge section dedicated to just tablet apps only. Makes it easier for people to distinguish between phone n tablet optimized apps.
Like I've always debated before, software is the key to Android success. Not constantly throwing hardware or higher specs at the issue. What good is a 3Ghz speed(example) new Android tablet, if its pushing the same on crap like Joe schmoe is on his cheap android phone? That's all I've been trying to say. ANDROID needs to concentrate more on the OS optimizing and the software or we will always be behind. As far as app quality goes. ANDROID is getting there though. But needs to pick up the pace fast. Especially with windows trying to jump back into the scene. Remember before there was every an android or IOS, Microsoft n windows ruled mobile. Like from my Kaiser(Tilt) n Rhodium(tilt2) days. I remember thinkn those phones were so high tech n could do so much. It was the ending of an era that brought way to IOS n Android. They were fresh n new n had killer features also. Real touch screens. Capacitive. Not that resistive touch screen crap that my old phones had. I even had a Motorola original Razed back in the day. Very high tech for its time. AS we see times are changing. It takes alot more to please people now. Just having higher specs won't do it anymore. ANDROID HAS to come with more than that. We have soon much untapped potential with Android. But like they say, Potential don't mean sh#! If its not put to use properly I have faith n Android believe it will eventually get to where it should be.
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Good decision imho. It didnt do what you bought it for (what ever that was, not clear to me from your post).
I'm still very happy with it. No issues. Yeah software could (and will) be better. But this thing does everything i need and it does it good. Watching full high quality flash in the browser is a huge plus for me.
One thing though, i never had an ipad - so i guess i dont know how it is when you have dozes of "tablet" apps.
What is different about those compared to apps on android tablets? The layout of them? The features? I really like the idea behind ICS and the unification of apps for phones/tablets. Only problem it was just released^^ Think about the first 6 months the ipad was out.
But still i have a nice looking "tablet" app for everything i need. Great pdf reader&book reader, very nice newspaper app was already installed offering local newspapers. The music app is stunning and feels just so good, Gmail, Polaris office, many very good choices on browsers, video player software and keyboards. Stuff like Titanium Backup? Not even windows has such a good backup system.
The simple and accessible file system android has... I dont know iOS just has absolutely no chance on a tablet compared to android. IMHO. I'm sounding like a fanboy but plz show me why iOS is so much better on a tablet? There must be some really freakin awesome apps^^
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I think there is a big difference. Jobs once said today its all about apps on mobile devices. People want to use an app for everything instead of using the "internet". At least thats what apple advertises... But for me that isnt true at all. When i read news, i use the browser and if I want to watch starcraft games or TV i use websites for that as well. Google is a total browser company, chrome alone shows that. And i guess thats why ios will never be better for what i'm looking for.
i cant see apple last forever. Android is individuality. iOS is conformity. Now think about what modern society is and how people are today.
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I Approve this message great points
Thanks for the responses!
It was a real wretch giving the tablet back; I love the flexibility of Android and it will get there in time...
I might even get the Prime again in a 6-12 months time... which is an ages when it comes to technology
I think its sad that someone leave a honest review gets flamed on lol, wake up and look at all the complaints on the forums the man is correct. And we all know android has potential but if the development is not there now then android is not there . That simple stop crying about how android is better
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I think its sad that someone leave a honest review gets flamed on lol, wake up and look at all the complaints on the forums the man is correct. And we all know android has potential but if the development is not there now then android is not there . That simple stop crying about how android is better
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All I said was bye
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Thanks for the responses!
It was a real wretch giving the tablet back; I love the flexibility of Android and it will get there in time...
I might even get the Prime again in a 6-12 months time... which is an ages when it comes to technology
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Yeah...its just so messed up how Asus tainted this Prime launch. Prime is an excellent device when you have a good working one. Like me I wouldn't trade my prime for any other tablet. It works so great for me. SERIOUSLY. BUT I KNOW there are defective ones out there so it messes up the experience for that person. For me this 5 core tegra3 device kicks ass. For others with defective devices, they are really disappointed n I can understand the anger behind it. But not all are that way though. The ones that aren't will always speak up n support it because of how much we enjoy it. Good luck on future tablet.
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All I said was bye
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Shouldn't you be gone then? xD
He's not talking about you specifically. People need to know the difference between generalisation/blanket statements and the particulars, like my teacher always says. :3
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Shouldn't you be gone then? xD
He's not talking about you specifically. People need to know the difference between generalisation/blanket statements and the particulars, like my teacher always says. :3
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No, no, no, I was telling him bye (very coolly I thought), I wasn't leaving. I was one of the lucky ones with the prime from 01/27 plus I got a year ADH from BB so if they fix the GPS then I will replace it based on the GPS listed on the box. Besides look at my sig.
Just realized there is a whole cool story bro world out there. Okay to the OP I gonna post one that maybe you haven't seen to cheer you up, I think he is from across the pond. BTW I bought my first OG transfomer in Oct fully 7 months after original release so that should work out for you
Later 2 I sold mine on eBay for a good deal, as I am happy and my customer is happy. I'm waiting about 10 more days for the Samsung Galaxy Note. I'm still interested in where the android technology goes in 2012. If they can't make things stronger this year they may lose their chance to be the 'best other option' with the windows tablets coming out. I believe they will be good as well.
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I think its sad that someone leave a honest review gets flamed.
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From years on forums discussing mobile devices, here's some etiquette type things I've learned.
1) Android vs. iOS - It's like comparing a diesel car to a hybrid. They both achieve the same result but totally differently. Owners of both will vigorously defend their choice. They don't need to be repeated here, but both Android and iOS have their own unique strengths and weaknesses. Saying iOS is "better" (which is subjective anyway) is a sure way of starting a flame war. Same thing applies in reverse on an Apple forum. Detente is the best anyone can hope for.
2) The "Grand Farewell" - If someone's leaving a device over issues, chances are there's already a thread open on said issues. If saying good-bye to people you don't know who really don't care what device you're leaving for or why is important to you, say it in that thread. Addressing an entire forum's audience on the front page announcing your plans is a bit self-indulgent.
3) The "I Just Got My Device" - Unless there's something unique about your particular unit, no one really cares. Theoretically they should all be the same and thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people preceded you. If you need validation, find another "I Just Got My Device" thread and bump that one with a hearty “Me Too!”
4) "My "X" Device is Better Than This Forum's "Y" Device - It's like going over to someone's house for dinner and calling them ugly. If there's a comparison thread, fine, it's open season. To jump in to a thread discussing the host forum's device and say "I don't have any issues with my ’X’" adds no value and just pisses people off; especially if they’re working through an issue. Chances are the "X" device may not have said issue but has its own which might even be worse. No one needs a “device pissing match” in the middle of an issue thread.
Just something to think about...
Now this is a proper way to share your experience and say farewell. I really appreciate that you did not disrespect the users, and stayed on topic and provided proper, no-rage fueled reasoning. Really sorry that you were not satisfied with your purchase, and it is your every right to switch to another gadget.
Would love to see you back when ICS ages a bit and Prime gets its issues solved. Me on the other hand, I am very happy with the prime.
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Software-wise, Android has momentum… but it's not there yet.
I wanted to use BBC iPlayer; there is no app for tablets available and you can't even use the website because it's not supported; it's the same with Sky Go.
Both of these services have fully functional iPad apps, by the way.
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Keeping it constructive - Sky Go app coming very soon for Android Tablets (End of Feb), iPlayer works like a charm, you have to request the desktop site from the browser, BBCHD videos are smooth as silk.
Looking forward to my flight from the UK to Australia in a couple of weeks with my Prime in tow, portable HDD connected to the USB port on the dock with 300GB of movies, this is my in flight entertainment!!
I have lightbleed, doesn't bother me, GPS is cack also, again it's what you want the tablet for and are willing to put up with - yes it's not perfect, but what is? I had an iPad2 and it kept slipping out of my hands as it was so heavy and the aluminium case was so slippy, had a Galaxy Tab 10.1 but sold it due to Tegra2 being rubbish and not wanting to convert all my movies to a format IT was happy with
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I also had issues with DLNA; the devices in my house (Xbox, PS3, iPhone, Mac) can all see the folders on my Buffalo NAS with no issues. The Prime refused to see anything but the Music folder.
Bad.
Software-wise, Android has momentum… but it's not there yet.
I wanted to use BBC iPlayer; there is no app for tablets available and you can't even use the website because it's not supported; it's the same with Sky Go.
Both of these services have fully functional iPad apps, by the way.
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In hindsight, it was probably too early for me to get an Android tablet. As much as I like to tinker, at the same time I need something that is functional and just works.
I returned the Prime today; gutted I had to, but there too many issues and niggles that would have prevented me from justifying spending £500 on something that's not ready for primetime (excuse the pun).
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seriously why didn't you buy an ipad or any stuff apple sells to people think like you?
Ok here is my story. Either i am OCD, have to much free time or crazy. Which my GF seems to agree with the last one A tad bit about myself i am a electronic junkie. Just in the last 2 weeks ive gotten a PS Vita, a new phone "Samsung Galaxy Note" & of course the other thing you will read below. I just love new technology and utilizing it to its potential. And even beyond what the company intended on. And no im not rich, i think my GF is making me eat Ramen Noodels for the next month lol.
I just got back today from Staples with my either 6th or 7th Prime, lost count lol. I was there at 8am being online showed "low stock" they had one though. I added a extra $106 to get it while returning my Galaxy Tab i bought last night which i never opened.
So basically i bought a Prime around a month or so ago along with a keyboard dock. Love the thing to death & thought the dock was a great addition. Even bought a Microsoft USB wireless receiver so i can use my wireless Xbox controller on games and such. And also bought a micro HDMI to connect to my Samsung smart TV.
My first Prime worked good i think i bought right around the time they were first pushing the ICS updates. But had bad wifi drop off by just walking into my living room. Started reading XDA and obviously it was a problem. So i figured id exchange it for perhaps a better one.
(2nd Prime): Basically identical to the first perhaps a tad better. Kept if for a few days before me and my GF agreed for the price i paid it should perform much better.
(3rd Prime): This is around the time whe started to receive some OTA updates and things seemed much better. Better wifi in my 3rd one which was a C1 serial. Long story short returned and was gonna sit back and wait to see what happens with ASUS.
(4th Prime): Had Prime withdraw, or thats what my GF called it and things started to look up so i got another. The Wifi was pretty damn good this time. GPS was ok while on wifi. Only problem was there was bad light bleed and 2 dead pixels . Figures...
(5th Prime): Exchanged to Gamestop no problem and the 5th was just as good as the 4th with a tiny bit of light bleed but no dead pixels. A keeper. First day or so it ran great. 2nd day i started getting my random one reboot per day, lockups and youtube glitches. Almost seems like it performs flawless the first day and says ok you had enough fun lol. So i returned and did not get another
(6th Prime): So.... after 24 full hours i missed my Prime It's so nice having a tablet to do the tasks i do like web browsing, checking email, youtube. Customizing, rooting/roms and such. So i got another knowing the problems and hoping perhaps it would be a better experience.
The next day they MWC introduces the T700 and i felt slightly shafted. My GF told me id return it and wait out which i kinda agreed. I did just buy a Galaxy Note and i can kinda use that as my Tablet i figured. So after getting my 2-3 reboots per day browser constantly crashing and youtube glitching and no new fix from ASUS. You guessed it i returned it.
Now last night i was really bummed on being tablet-less. I seen Staples was selling the Galaxy tab 10.1 for $399. And the new Galaxy Tab coming out is basically the same thing. So i went and picked up a Galaxy Tab 10.1 for the time being until perhaps the TF700 comes out. Plus the development is great for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 on here rom wise. I could overclock, root, and install roms right out of the box.
So i brought it home and i let it sit on my desk all night. Jumped on XDA on my phone and was reading while i was staring at the unopened Galaxy tab on my desk. Long story short i never opened it and exchanged it for ANOTHER PRIME this morning . I just did not think i would be satisfied overall with the Galaxy Tab knowing the Prime is out.
Something keeps bringing me back to the Prime. This is my last and final shot lol, i even promised my GF that. Something about the all aluminum back to me is sweeter than that of the TF-700 with that plastic strip that looks misplaced. Something about having it now rather than waiting for the new one months away. Something about this damn tablet keeps bringing me back at least. As long as my wifi works as good as my last few units ill be happy i could care less about GPS. I honestly thing the great developers over here can work the kinks out. So as i type this i have a un-opened Prime in front of me. Which is a C1 serial, funny my last two were C2's. So wish me luck!
So i ask you am i CRAZY, persistent or what lol? Anybody else out there like me? Make me feel better! Hahaha. I apologize for the long post. I just felt like i needed to get it off my chest. And its hard to explain something to women about electronics.
PS: Best part so far from exchanging my defected ones is the microfiber collection i have. Those cloths are bad ass!
i havent got a prime yet... but thinking should i go down the same path as i have been waiting for so long lol
only a few t3 tab is shown in MWC so far and they wont be available till june i guess.. unless samsung pull out a quad core tab next month, otherwise i am ready for my long time battle too lool
you remind me of someone else who had prime fever but constantly bashed Asus. yet now he talks of getting yet another one...lmao I'm starting to call b.s. on alot of these stories but yours sound believable at least.
I'd say just open it up and check it out. you know you tempted to anyways..lol. if its wifi is and no bad light bleed, then just keep it and enjoy it. it is a good device and people know it. that's why they keep coming back or hanging around. just let us know how it goes. don't feel bad. we have others who "Supposedly" had the fever worse than you and yet they still coming back saying they got another one. whether true or not. they looking like prime crackheads..lol. prime got people hooked and addicted. good reason to be because it is a great device.
I got my device 12/22 from Gamestop. wifi works great. no light bleed. all around good device. never had or needed to exchange. my 1 device worked great from the beginning and I have an early batch one. use it constantly. always performs 100% for me.
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you remind me of someone else who had prime fever but constantly bashed Asus. yet now he talks of getting yet another one...lmao I'm starting to call b.s. on alot of these stories but yours sound believable at least.
I'd say just open it up and check it out. you know you tempted to anyways..lol. if its wifi is and no bad light bleed, then just keep it and enjoy it. it is a good device and people know it. that's why they keep coming back or hanging around. just let us know how it goes. don't feel bad. we have others who "Supposedly" had the fever worse than you and yet they still coming back saying they got another one. whether true or not. they looking like prime crackheads..lol. prime got people hooked and addicted. good reason to be because it is a great device.
I got my device 12/22 from Gamestop. wifi works great. no light bleed. all around good device. never had or needed to exchange. my 1 device worked great from the beginning and I have an early batch one. use it constantly. always performs 100% for me.
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So, you say me going through 6 units is bs? Well, i will be getting another one, just like it too much.
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Do you have costco near your area? If so, return it and purchase Galaxy Tab 10.1.... Use/rent it until the next batch of tablets arrive from either Asus, Acer, Lenovo.. Samsung.. or whatever. Costco has 90 day return policy (thus, you can rent your tab for 3 month)......
This is what I'm doing.. granted.. I also have Prime atm (bought a Prime, returned it.. but got another Prime as gift that I can't return as it was purchased from Gamestop =/)
Just opened it . Still in the plastic of course lol. Doing my usual very very first app downloads.
1.Wifi Analyzer
2.Speed Test
3.GPS Test (could care less about GPS but testing is fun)
4.Dead pixel test.
5.Light bleed test
From the start testing using Wifi Analyzer it keeps a pretty good wifi signal in my living room. Close to my Galaxy Note Phone, the Prime just jumps up and down a bit not a big deal. Prob the aluminum.
Using Speedtest, i know not the best way but a fast way to check. Getting 14.5 mbps & my internet speed is only rated to 15mbps. Very very good in my book so far with wifi.
In the dark in my bathroom during the boot, best way to check for light bleed fast. I have a small light bleed in the top left corner. Not super bad just barley creeping through. Nothing that would make me box it up right away and bring it back to the store.
Im upgrading FW now. Will report back. Next step is to remove the plastic and inspect for dead pixels. Crossing my finger there isn't any
It does feel good to have the Prime back in my hands.
EDIT: NO dead pixels wohoo!
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So, you say me going through 6 units is bs? Well, i will be getting another one, just like it too much.
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feeling guilty..lol but no I wasn't talking about you. nothing wrong with liking device to where you want a good one. but there's obvious signs from people to call b.s. on what their saying. seems some are just looking for attention or a pity party..lol. alot of people in this forum have been called out on lies and contradicting stories. that's what I mean. so me n others tend to take anything they say with a grain lmfao salt.
its like a kid always lying he has this or that when in reality he doesn't. he just tries to make himself look cool by always trying to brag or say he has this or that. when he doesn't..lmfao I don't get their reasoning but OK. SMH
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Do you have costco near your area? If so, return it and purchase Galaxy Tab 10.1.... Use/rent it until the next batch of tablets arrive from either Asus, Acer, Lenovo.. Samsung.. or whatever. Costco has 90 day return policy (thus, you can rent your tab for 3 month)......
This is what I'm doing.. granted.. I also have Prime atm (bought a Prime, returned it.. but got another Prime as gift that I can't return as it was purchased from Gamestop =/)
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I have a BJ's & Sams Club no Costco. How are you enjoying your Galaxy Tab? Never opened mine lol. I however have a Galaxy Note which obviously is similar.
How do you compare the Galaxy Tab's screen & colors to the TP. I find after using my Prime & picking up my Galaxy Note the colors seem far punchier on the note.
While vibrant colors are good i still prefer the power of the Prime in ts quad core ness. Like Mickey said in Rocky 2. We need speed, speed speed! Greasy, fast lightning speed! Lol.
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feeling guilty..lol but no I wasn't talking about you. nothing wrong with liking device to where you want a good one. but there's obvious signs from people to call b.s. on what their saying. seems some are just looking for attention or a pity party..lol. alot of people in this forum have been called out on lies and contradicting stories. that's what I mean. so me n others tend to take anything they say with a grain lmfao salt.
its like a kid always lying he has this or that when in reality he doesn't. he just tries to make himself look cool by always trying to brag or say he has this or that. when he doesn't..lmfao I don't get their reasoning but OK. SMH
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I haven't read any BS stories on here yet lol. Maybe im not looking hard enough. I can safely say that all the times i returned my Prime not even 24hrs later i missed it sorely. Even with the problems that some people are having or the ones that i have had its still a far superior tablet to anything currently on the market.
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Whoa, just upgraded to the latest OTA. Figured i try GPS for kicks. With wifi "OFF" sitting in my living room it picks up 11-14 Sats in about 5-8 secs. Its cloudy today for reference. With a accuracy of 24 feet. And usually uses about 10-11 of them "in use". I had one with a good GPS but not this good. Especially not being on wifi/
Again to mee GPS does not matter if it works without wifi or not or even at all. This is one of the fun parts the testing lol.
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I have a BJ's & Sams Club no Costco. How are you enjoying your Galaxy Tab? Never opened mine lol. I however have a Galaxy Note which obviously is similar.
How do you compare the Galaxy Tab's screen & colors to the TP. I find after using my Prime & picking up my Galaxy Note the colors seem far punchier on the note.
While vibrant colors are good i still prefer the power of the Prime in ts quad core ness. Like Mickey said in Rocky 2. We need speed, speed speed! Greasy, fast lightning speed! Lol.
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Oh, I owned Galaxy Tab before I purchased Prime. I sold Galaxy Tab when Prime came out... but I returned the Prime I purchased as GPS is important to me (it's funny, but the Prime that I purchased was also from Gamestop but I was able to return it with luck & also it was during the whole Asus announcement fiasco about GPS).
Anyways, it's pointless to compare Prime and Galaxy Tab. When it comes to display, I'll give the slight edge to Prime (Gtab 10.1 doesn't have super amoled)... and if you look at everything else.. SPEC wise, Prime is just superior.
However, when it comes to functionality and my USER experience.. I mostly use Galaxy Tab as it doesn't have the WIFI/GPS problem. I travel often & that mobility is important to me. I hate carrying multiple device (i even purchased bluetooth GPS receiver for Prime but I hate charging & carrying multiple device) & at least with mine, I hardly get any WIFI connection with PRIME when I travel. So, basically.. I mostly use my Prime at home (where I have the control of network setting)... and mostly use Prime for media device.
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I haven't read any BS stories on here yet lol. Maybe im not looking hard enough. I can safely say that all the times i returned my Prime not even 24hrs later i missed it sorely. Even with the problems that some people are having or the ones that i have had its still a far superior tablet to anything currently on the market.
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you don't have to look hard but doesn't matter anyways. fact is Prime is superior to anything out right now. that's why people keep coming back. according to Asus we the "Mobile Tech Trendsetters" lol
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Whoa, just upgraded to the latest OTA. Figured i try GPS for kicks. With wifi "OFF" sitting in my living room it picks up 11-14 Sats in about 5-8 secs. Its cloudy today for reference. With a accuracy of 24 feet. And usually uses about 10-11 of them "in use". I had one with a good GPS but not this good. Especially not being on wifi/
Again to mee GPS does not matter if it works without wifi or not or even at all. This is one of the fun parts the testing lol.
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sounds good
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C10KAS That was odd at first too. Being my last two from Staples were C2's.
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you don't have to look hard but doesn't matter anyways. fact is Prime is superior to anything out right now. that's why people keep coming back. according to Asus we the "Mobile Tech Trendsetters" lol
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I've been thinking about that quote last night. How is Asus planning to market Prime when other tablets (especially from asus) drops? Mobile Tech Trendsetters & Early Adopters as Johny Shih put it.. typically are associated with purchasing the latest gadgets. That won't be the case when other Tablets are released... You can't tell a customer 3 month later.. and say.. "purchase a prime & be an early adopter to a device that was released few month ago...."
Don't you find that amusing, and rather poor marketing of Prime in the long run?
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I've been thinking about that quote last night. How is Asus planning to market Prime when other tablets (especially from asus) drops? Mobile Tech Trendsetters & Early Adopters as Johny Shih put it.. typically are associated with purchasing the latest gadgets. That won't be the case when other Tablets are released... You can't tell a customer 3 month later.. and say.. "purchase a prime & be an early adopter to a device that was released few month ago...."
Don't you find that amusing, and rather poor marketing of Prime in the long run?
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I did find it amusing. especially with the early adopter title considering issues being had with too many devices. I'd rather roll with The Mobile Tech Trendsetters. we will always be that since we had the first tegra3 quad core tablets. you could say we started the quad core/high powered/ next evolution of tablet computing.
so I think they need to roll with the trend setter title. early adopter will only bring memories of the gripes many suffered being an "early adopter" lol. I'm laughing now thinkn of all the jokes I seen up here so far in regards to that title. this has been one helluva roller coaster ride with Asus, prime, and this section of the forum.
you right, you can't tell a customer 3 months later he an early adopter still when newer products are released already. but that person can still be the trend setter though. lol.
edit: check out my tegra4 thread..I updated it last night with proof of the second version of tegra4/wayne chip having 8 A15 core CPU and will have between 32-64 GPU cores...directX11 compliant n more. The Godzilla of chips. haven't seen or heard anything that promising or ambitious from anyone.
Here is a fast pic i snagged with my Galaxy note. First is a picture of my GPS with "WIFI OFF" sitting in my living room.
2nd picture is a quick pic of my light bleed on the left hand upper corner which i believe is liveable. Ive seen worse.
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Light bleed test Not bad. Whatcha think?
Speedtest for giggles in my living room. I usually get between 11-14. Pretty damn good considering 15mbps is what my max connection is.
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Here is a fast pic i snagged with my Galaxy note. First is a picture of my GPS with "WIFI OFF" sitting in my living room.
2nd picture is a quick pic of my light bleed on the left hand upper corner which i believe is liveable. Ive seen worse.
GPS with Wifi OFF
Light bleed test Not bad. Whatcha think?
Speedtest for giggles in my living room. I usually get between 11-14. Pretty damn good considering 15mbps is what my max connection is.
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I'm so envious of you being able to use the stylus of galaxy note to annotate those pics..lol cool. I'm seriously considering getting a Note soon. have you heard or seen that new LG Vu? its a huge phablet phone also but has a 4:3 aspect ratio like Ipad so it makes it look even bigger in wider than the note. I like it. plenty of screen area. its screen just as big as note or even larger. it definitely looks larger with 4:3 aspect ratio. which is different. as most use 16:9 ratio or so.
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edit: check out my tegra4 thread..I updated it last night with proof of the second version of tegra4/wayne chip having 8 A15 core CPU and will have between 32-64 GPU cores...directX11 compliant n more. The Godzilla of chips. haven't seen or heard anything that promising or ambitious from anyone.
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It says upto .. 8 cores. That and the first WAYNE.. especially when it comes to GPU (seems more or less an evolution from Tegra 3 again while the 2nd Wayne seems far more promising).. it looks lackluster again. But the first WAYNE seems.. like it'll be more or less on par with Qualcomm & TI OMAP quad cores. And they'll all be released around the same period.... so, that should be interesting.
We'll see.. the 2nd Wayne to battle against Intels x86 SoC (and possibly others .. i don't feel like doing links atm) won't be out til mid 2013 or so it seems.
Edit: It's interesting that they are creating 2nd Wayne for Windows 8 & are upping the "cores" for it...
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I'm so envious of you being able to use the stylus of galaxy note to annotate those pics..lol cool. I'm seriously considering getting a Note soon. have you heard or seen that new LG Vu? its a huge phablet phone also but has a 4:3 aspect ratio like Ipad so it makes it look even bigger in wider than the note. I like it. plenty of screen area. its screen just as big as note or even larger. it definitely looks larger with 4:3 aspect ratio. which is different. as most use 16:9 ratio or so.
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The Note is absolutely one of the coolest gadgets ive owned so far. I had a Galaxy S2 before, so with the Note I got used to the screen size fast. Once you go above 4.3" you won't want to go back.
There is so many cool things you can do with the Note's stylus aside from just scribbling notes on a pad or a picture or "S-Pen" as Samsung insists of calling it. You can google pictures then crop your friends head onto another body, trust me the fun is endless. Samsung actually has a contest going on for 100k,50k, & 25k to the 3 developers who come up with the best app that utilizes the S-pen. Which im sure will be something cool.
Not to mention its like a mobile computer which is a huge plus for me. I did briefly see that new LG phone on engadget & slashgear's site. Seems pretty cool too, ill have to read more on it. But i got use to the size of the Note fast, it makes reading XDA on the go that much easier haha . Everything is just that much easier. I could care less if it looks big held up to my ear. Ive actually gotten alot of compliments on it. Plus i don't make many calls anyway, mostly texting, web browsing and emails. On a side note the call quality is insanely good and clear on the Note. Speaker phone is awesome too.
Holding my GF's iphone in my hand it feels like a toy haha. Nothing against Apple they make good phones. I am just not a fan of the locked iOS, and i am sick of seeing everyone with one. I gave my iPhone 4 up long ago and haven't looked back.
Obviously it's the most "powerful" in terms of pure processing power and GPU as far as Android tablets go. But is the problems worth not buying? I will not be rooting the device as way to many problems I see on here. My question is if I leave it stock would I have some stupid issue's? I dont use bluetooth or GPS on a tablet so..
Personally, I am waiting for the t700 that is due in June. The wifi issue did it for me. All fixed in the t700 plus the hd screen will be nice.
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Personally, I am waiting for the t700 that is due in June. The wifi issue did it for me. All fixed in the t700 plus the hd screen will be nice.
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Well, people like you tend to wait a year or 6 month's for devices.. To me waiting 3 1/2 month's because something better is coming is pointless.
I Need a tablet NOW. My question is since the Prime's hardware is obviously superior to anything on the market is it worth purchasing even so many other issues.
I said I don't use GPS or Bluetooth on a Tab bc. it seems that alongside not-so-strong WiFi are the only problems.. O and the Serial # problems, light-bleed ... Am I missing nething? I am only asking as i'm purchasing my Prime in less than an hour from Staples..
Kolja Dunhamm (CM-developer) seems to have concluded that Tegra 3, which the prime is based on, is junk. Just like Tegra 2.
There's a few much better chipsets out there already and even better ones coming soon. Unless you want something now, I'm sure you will be able to get something much more worthwhile in not too much time.
If it will have the awesome keyboard dock built into the design from day-one, however, is hard to tell or predict. If a integrated keyboard dock is more important than processing power, the prime might be worth it.
Otherwise I say wait it out. See what else is coming.
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Kolja Dunhamm (CM-developer) seems to have concluded that Tegra 3, which the prime is based on, is junk. Just like Tegra 2.
There's a few much better chipsets out there already and even better ones coming soon. Unless you want something now, I'm sure you will be able to get something much more worthwhile in not too much time.
If it will have the awesome keyboard dock built into the design from day-one, however, is hard to tell or predict. If a integrated keyboard dock is more important than processing power, the prime might be worth it.
Otherwise I say wait it out. See what else is coming.
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Tegra 3 is junk? Link..?
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Well, people like you tend to wait a year or 6 month's for devices.. To me waiting 3 1/2 month's because something better is coming is pointless.
I Need a tablet NOW. My question is since the Prime's hardware is obviously superior to anything on the market is it worth purchasing even so many other issues.
I said I don't use GPS or Bluetooth on a Tab bc. it seems that alongside not-so-strong WiFi are the only problems.. O and the Serial # problems, light-bleed ... Am I missing nething? I am only asking as i'm purchasing my Prime in less than an hour from Staples..
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If your buying it anyway why are you asking if its worth it? If you want people on a forum to help you feel better about buying something then go ahead and buy it. You have the official blessing. But if you wanna be smart and you have to have a tablet now then get something a lot cheaper and wait for much better devices coming in the next few months for the same money.
I returned my Prime last month, and bought the 32GB original TF101. I saved $100, and everything on it works like it should. Although it doesn't have the raw processor power of the Prime, my WiFi range is about 33% better than it was on the Prime, which is more important to me anyway.
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But is the problems worth not buying? I will not be rooting the device as way to many problems I see on here.
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What problems does Prime have with rooting?
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Tegra 3 is junk? Link..?
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Link:
https://plus.google.com/109560348209955703361/posts/hRmjKcP7MJj
You better click that link, because it took me one hours getting it here. From the G+ app. One hour. I'm not kidding. That one link = one hour of work.
Because the Google+ Android app has no way of sharing outside the G+ app (leaving no way to draw new users), no way of sharing with the Android mechanisms.
And the mobile web-pages you are forced onto does not work if you have more than one Google account on your phone. I can't have normal webpages pages? My phone has better resolution than most laptops sold these days?
And then when you enter the laptop Google doesn't find the page your are searching for because evidently Goolge started sucking on search and can't even search its own ****ing social network.
Absolutely pathetic. Absolute garbage.
But there you have it. A link. Clickable. It should work. Even on Android, it might even lead you to the G+ app itself. Where you again will be able to share it with noone outside the world of G+.
These are amazing times we live in.
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He probably means for ease of RMA, warrenty, etc. I haven't kept up with the latest since getting root keeper but the root situation ain't to terrible. All that is really missing is nvflash.
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Obviously it's the most "powerful" in terms of pure processing power and GPU as far as Android tablets go. But is the problems worth not buying? I will not be rooting the device as way to many problems I see on here. My question is if I leave it stock would I have some stupid issue's? I dont use bluetooth or GPS on a tablet so..
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If I have to unroot everytime there's a fw upgrade, it's not worth the bother. Android OS will continue to evolve so development will have to constantly catch up. I've had enough of the Prime, my next tab will have 1900x1200 res and Jelly Beans.
Well i got mine because someone mislabled it and put a $399 sticker on it XD so ya totally worth it for me.
At the price tag of $500.... the galaxy tab was about that when it first came out. The first transformer was close to that when it first came out as well... hell up to a few months ago it was STILL $500 in most stores, granted that was bundled with the dock.
In all, for what you get its a steep price but a cutting edge tablet. Sometimes the cutting edge cuts you tho, in the case of GPS and wifi. in 6 more months there will be a dozen tablets with the tegra 3, and by christmas there will be the tegra 4 or whatever comes next. theres always something bigger down the road.
The way i look at it: If you want a tablet you are going to push to the max get the prime. If you want a good tablet that has the problems mostly worked out, get the TF101 on clearance (at least in my area) for like, $300? Really it boils down to how much are you going to use it, what are you using it for, what are you willing to pay for it, and how soon do you need it. With all electronics, it pretty much doubles every six months. Quad core tablets now, watch us have a 8 core tablet by christmas XD
TLDR: This tablet does everything i want it to do, and more. amazingly fast for games, pictures, great for watching movies (tho not wirelessly), overall im happy with it and the price i paid. YMMV.
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I returned my Prime last month, and bought the 32GB original TF101. I saved $100, and everything on it works like it should. Although it doesn't have the raw processor power of the Prime, my WiFi range is about 33% better than it was on the Prime, which is more important to me anyway.
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He probably means for ease of RMA, warrenty, etc. I haven't kept up with the latest since getting root keeper but the root situation ain't to terrible. All that is really missing is nvflash.
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Never heard of someone getting their warranty denied due to rooting. I know it's in Asus's rules but I have enough experience to know that rules like that aren't always strictly enforced.
So what's the problem with rooting on Prime again?
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Many problems?
Definitely worth it.
)Bought the prime yesterday.
It's really hard to explain the feeling when holding this device.
Asus gave a new meaning to the word "premium".
This device is absolutely amazing in all ways. Build quality is of the best I've encountered, screen is amazingly bright.
Speed, well it's tegra 3. Mulitasking is super smooth and just a pleasure with ics.
The keyboard dock, although being small, is very well made. I can type on it perfectly. The dock can also power an external hdd.
Gaming is awesome (tegra 3, duh).
Camera is nice, although not super necessary on tablets except for the front facing. Video quality is very nice.
Dont know about battery life yet. Ive only had it for a day.
I sold my ipad (and divorced apple thank god) and got this. I waited to see what would be the new king after MWC, but it seems that the TFP kept the crown for now.
All in all IMO this is the best value you can get for your money right now.
Truly amazing tablet.
For what it is worth, I read that quick thread in google+ and really put zero weight by what that guy said.....
OMAP5 wont be on the market in users hands for a year (!) and S4 devices wont be in customers hands until Q2/Q3 this year. So Tegra 3 is really compared to Exynos and S3 and OMAP4 which it does great against......and is the best chipset for the first 4-6 months of its life....
The chipset on Tegra3 is not a disappointment to me....it does everything you need and more. If you live to benchmark your tablet then wait...otherwise Tegra3 is fine
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For what it is worth, I read that quick thread in google+ and really put zero weight by what that guy said.....
OMAP5 wont be on the market in users hands for a year (!) and S4 devices wont be in customers hands until Q2/Q3 this year. So Tegra 3 is really compared to Exynos and S3 and OMAP4 which it does great against......and is the best chipset for the first 4-6 months of its life....
The chipset on Tegra3 is not a disappointment to me....it does everything you need and more. If you live to benchmark your tablet then wait...otherwise Tegra3 is fine
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There will always come things that better in the near future. Thats how this world works. If u always wait for the best thing u'll end up getting nothing!
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If I have to unroot everytime there's a fw upgrade, it's not worth the bother. Android OS will continue to evolve so development will have to constantly catch up. I've had enough of the Prime, my next tab will have 1900x1200 res and Jelly Beans.
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Uhh... You don't have to unroot every time there's an update. The updates do remove root, but Voodoo OTA RootKeeper can just bring it right back if you made a su backup with it. Simple.
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I actually got mine off of ebay, Thursday and i haven't wanted to put it down yet. My wifi might not be full bars but i cant tell from the speed of the pages loading. I've tried ebooks, audiobooks, music, videos and games on here and haven't been disappointed yet.
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Uhh... You don't have to unroot every time there's an update. The updates do remove root, but Voodoo OTA RootKeeper can just bring it right back if you made a su backup with it. Simple.
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Also most developers will incorporate the updates in their roms so as to not break root.
Hey all, I am looking to get a tablet and have two options for the same price. I can get the prime with keyboard dock and other accessories or an infinity. From what I've read so far they are very similar except for the screen. I'm leaning towards the prime since it has the accessories.
I'm def going to root it asap, so I wanted to get some opinions. Do any of you have the keyboard?? Is it worth it vs the infinity??
Thanks!
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Hey all, I am looking to get a tablet and have two options for the same price. I can get the prime with keyboard dock and other accessories or an infinity. From what I've read so far they are very similar except for the screen. I'm leaning towards the prime since it has the accessories.
I'm def going to root it asap, so I wanted to get some opinions. Do any of you have the keyboard?? Is it worth it vs the infinity??
Thanks!
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Keyboard is worth it as an option - we sometimes use it sometimes do not.
I have TF201 - very happy (sans GPS).
Wookie 1.4 ROM fixs all performance issues with PRIME (I have not yet installed it myself as the most recent ASUS ROM was also very very stable and fast).
What about these wifi issues I keep seeing. Some people make it sound like you can't even get a signal while others say it's fine. I don't plan on being outside of my house with the tablet so should i be concerned??
My dad bought a TF700 yesterday. I was setting it up and noted that the wifi was showing stronger signal than my 201. However, since the very latest update a few days ago I have noted significant improvement in my wifi on the 201. I ran speedtest.net and pulled the same numbers as my laptop.
The TF700 sitting next to the 201 looked IDENTICAL screen-wise wich I didn't expect considering the higher display specs of the 700. However, the 700's camera image on-screen was seriously yellow in comparison to my 201. Doing some research i found that a yellow screen on the 700 has been reported by many sources including reviews. When we transferred the picture to a PC and it didnt look as bad.
Office depot has the TF700 for $449. They have the 201 DOCK for $99 (in store only). I plugged my 201 dock in to the 700 and it worked perfectly so I suggested to my dad he get that one rather than the 700 dock and save the $50. There are many reports on here that the 201 dock is identical internally to the 700's dock including part numbers etc...
My dad was given a coupon for 20% off accessories when he bought the tablet so the dock will be $80 when he uses it.
All in all I would probably buy the 700 for the higher specs. Performance wise I did not find the 700 a stellar or really noteable improvement. The places I noticed things were more in the software side with extra options in certain places on the 700.
Thanks for that write up. I appreciate it. I spoke to the person that I'm buying it from and he said that wifi has always been strong for him. I did see that there was a new update. I'm not going to be streaming movies etc. mainly just surfing the web and downloading apps. I won't use the camera feature at all so that's not a big factor.
The screen was the big factor for me. I'm coming from an iPad 2 and both the prime and infinity have better screens so I think it's going to be an upgrade for me either way. I've read that many apps aren't optimized for the infinity's screen so not sure if that matters.
I'm kinda leaning towards the prime with the keyboard right now. I'm going to buy it through ebay so if the wifi totally sucks I can file a claim and return it.
I have to be honest though, neither looks as good as the newest displays on iPad. When not side by side you probably wouldnt realize but the clarity and sharpness of the iPad stands out.
having said that I stream netflix on my 201 regularly with no problems.
I agree thatte iPad 3 and 4 are sick and not comparable to the Prime. But since I'm coming from an iPad2 it'll be a slight improvement. Plus I thought that was a great screen anyways.
Good to hear the you can stream netflix over wifi without issues. That's the only thing concerning me at this time.
The prime is basically discontinued which means support and development for it will falter much sooner than the tf700. The screen if you compare text is infinitely better too and the WiFi suckz
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The prime is basically discontinued which means support and development for it will falter much sooner than the tf700. The screen if you compare text is infinitely better too and the WiFi suckz
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I agree 100% with this post... I have a Prime since day one FINALLY there are some solid JB roms available, running energy with mine. As for the discontinued statement it is already happening to the docks. I tried purchasing off amazon the new 500/700 dock and they cancelled my order saying they had no clue when it would be available again. So I had to order the last one from Newegg and they discontinued it after my order.
So basically go with the Infinity or pick up the Nexus 10 if you dont mind having no memory upgrades.
I currently have both. JB Stock vs stock Prime is better. 700 is very laggy and frame rate suck. Nenamark2 is below 39 fps while the Prime gets about 57fps. Even if you enable Force GPU and Disable Hardware Overlay it doesnt make much difference. I had to down grade the 700 to ICS which makes it smoother (nenamark2 score of 41) but what I noticed with ICS is during download of games or app data the 700 becomes unusable just like how Prime was on ICS. JB on Prime took care of this.
Also you will find a lot of games not compatible specifically Gameloft and EA games. You will need to side load most of them but you will need to have a source like a backup from another device. If you dont really play gameloft or EA games then it doesnt matter. Glu games are all available in the market.
The only slight advantage of the 700 is the screen. Its better in particular with text. Micro sd card no longer sticks out if you even use one. From the forums the tf700 needs to be unlocked and loaded with Cleanrom and clemsey kernel to make it on par with the Prime but if score means anything, Nenamark2 on clemsey kernel is 41fps on JB. As far as wifi both seems to be on par. But Prime lacks gps if thats important to you.
EDIT: I just tested wifi again and 700 is slightly better actually by 5-8dbm. Unless you're quite far from your router then that might not matter much. Also noticed the Prime tends to jump around more.
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tf700 Gameloft games (everything on here is it)
tf700 EA Games (Only the first few rows)
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I have a TF201 (since Dec 27th of last year). It is a low SN unit and I've never had any WiFi problems (only the GPS but that's a non-issue for me). It has worked great since new and has only gotten better with each update.
I have a friend that bought TF700's (based on what they saw with my Prime). When we are visiting we usually play the same games etc. sitting next to each other. He always comments that he thinks my Prime out performs his Infinity. There are some apps that work on my Prime and sort of works on his Infinity like multi-live wallpaper. I can assign different pictures to each of my screens without any problems but on his Infinity it doesn't work for some reason. We are both running JB. When we run Beach Buggy Blitz side by side his gets jittery when there is a lot of stuff going on but mine is smooth as silk. Not sure if this is the resolution optimization thing mentioned above.
I say go with the Prime if it's the same price as the Infinity especially if it come with the dock/accessories and the Infinity is just the tablet.
Both of them sucks, buy winn8 tab.
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Both of them sucks, buy winn8 tab.
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It's Win8, and why are you bothering to troll this forum? You provide no value.
You are nobody to criticize. I just answered OPs question. Problems?
There are probably Win8 forums out there. Did the OP ask about Win8? NOPE. Since he didn't your crappy answer is not needed.
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There are probably Win8 forums out there. Did the OP ask about Win8? NOPE.
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SO WHAT?
I suggest him not to buy asus android devices at all (at least tf201 or inf) because its total crap.
If you're such a fan of Windows 8 join an appropriate forum where positive comments would be welcome. So far, all your posts to this forum have been negative and counterproductive.
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SO WHAT?
I suggest him not to buy asus android devices at all (at least tf201 or inf) because its total crap.
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Mine is not total crap. It's been great since I've had it. Just because you may have had a bad expericance with Asus doesn't mean they are all crap. You add ZERO to this discussion and in no way are you helping the OP.
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theandies said:
Mine is not total crap. It's been great since I've had it. Just because you may have had a bad expericance with Asus doesn't mean they are all crap. You add ZERO to this discussion and in no way are you helping the OP.
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OT: Mine was total crap when i got it (random reboots, constant browser ANRs, total slowness...), but the community here helped - i installed custom rom and 99% of problems are gone and tablet is now fast, stable and great
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qery said:
OT: Mine was total crap when i got it (random reboots, constant browser ANRs, total slowness...), but the community here helped - i installed custom rom and 99% of problems are gone and tablet is now fast, stable and great
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That’s cool. I'm waiting for my warranty to run out at the end of the month then it's root and unlock for me. I'm kind of scared to do it because mine has worked so well from day one though. I should be getting the dock for Christmas and I can't wait to play with that. The DEV community is great and that is why I like the Android platform so much because of cases like yours.