Hi there
Im currently a windows 6.5.5 user on an HD2 with custom ROM.
However my upgrade is due in a few weeks and i have been eyeing up the Titan.
Im aware WP7 is a different OS to win mo 6.5.5 but how different? Ive played with Android and it just doesnt do what i want it to so felt the need to stick with the Windows OS.
does the app store for WP7 have enough in it to keep you amused or is it still a bit bare?
Symondo said:
Hi there
Im currently a windows 6.5.5 user on an HD2 with custom ROM.
However my upgrade is due in a few weeks and i have been eyeing up the Titan.
Im aware WP7 is a different OS to win mo 6.5.5 but how different? Ive played with Android and it just doesnt do what i want it to so felt the need to stick with the Windows OS.
does the app store for WP7 have enough in it to keep you amused or is it still a bit bare?
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If you din't find satisfaction from Android Market, I highly doubt Windows Market is yet ready for you. The key features missing right now in my opinion are:
-system back up
-sms back up
-few major apps (I don't care about apps, I've got all that I need)
-customization (we will have unlock hopefully soon!)
Other than this, I think it looks much more professional that Android at most stages. Communication, social networking - is integrated like no other OS and it will only get better with 2 updates in 2012!
If you are someone who has patience for atleast next 6-8 months - Buy titan, you will love it!
If you are someone who has patience but has huge surge of apps daily and huge need to customize things - Get Android. By the time you finish your 2 year long contract, we will surely have Windows Phone 9 which I can bet will be the most amazing OS ever! (here is to wishful thinking!)
In a nutshell I can say, I've gone from WM6- WM6.5- WM6.5.5- Android2.2 -Android2.3- Android2.3.5- WP7.5 and I thought this was the most amazing thing I held in my hand since a long long time! - "It just works"
How you like Windows Phone 7 is really going to depend on how you currently use your Windows Mobile and/or Android phone.
Windows Mobile (and Android) let you go crazy with customization, mods, ROMs, etc. Windows Phone 7 is very locked down. Not a whole lot of customization. But because its so locked down, its incredibly stable (does not crash or slow down as often, if at all). The number one thing about Windows Phone 7 is that it just works. No tweaking, or hacking the registry, or installing modification on top of modification. You turn it on, 15 seconds later, it just works, flawlessly.
If you use Outlook and a USB cable to sync your information (contacts, email, etc.) to your phone, then you can't do that anymore. Windows Phone 7 only lets you sync media (pictures, music, videos) to your phone via the Zune software. Everything else is in the cloud and tied to your Windows Live account.
Windows Phone 7 offers unparalleled connectivity and integration with Microsoft services (Hotmail, Zune, Bing, Xbox Live, etc. etc.).
If you are living alright with the Marketplace currently on Windows Mobile, then the Windows Phone 7 Marketplace easily beats that one easily. Only difference is that without some kind of developer unlocking of your phone, you can load apps from your PC like you could with Windows Mobile.
Really you just have to try it before you really commit. Most people love it, fewer hate it. Coming from Windows Mobile, and depending on your current view of Windows Mobile, you may see it as a giant leap forward, or a big step backwards.
I came from Windows Mobile 6.5, and then Android, and now Windows Phone 7, and I just can't go back to anything else. My phone, just works, and its fast, and fluid, and beautiful, and its got the apps that I need, and the integration with Microsoft stuff that I use.
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If you use Outlook and a USB cable to sync your information (contacts, email, etc.) to your phone, then you can't do that anymore.
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You can't load your contacts via USB cable as a USB device, but you surely can sync your Outlook contacts, emails, tasks, calender wirelessly flawlessly too!
Symondo said:
Hi there
Im currently a windows 6.5.5 user on an HD2 with custom ROM.
However my upgrade is due in a few weeks and i have been eyeing up the Titan.
Im aware WP7 is a different OS to win mo 6.5.5 but how different? Ive played with Android and it just doesnt do what i want it to so felt the need to stick with the Windows OS.
does the app store for WP7 have enough in it to keep you amused or is it still a bit bare?
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As you've got a HD2 I'd recommend using Yuki's Win 7 ROM. I did and that convinced me to move onto the Titan (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250869).
As for the other comments on WP7, I agree WP7 is locked down however I'm quite happy with what's available on the Marketplace and I'm convinced that the experts at XDA will find ways of allowing us to mod as with WP 6.5.
Symondo said:
Hi there
Im currently a windows 6.5.5 user on an HD2 with custom ROM.
However my upgrade is due in a few weeks and i have been eyeing up the Titan.
Im aware WP7 is a different OS to win mo 6.5.5 but how different? Ive played with Android and it just doesnt do what i want it to so felt the need to stick with the Windows OS.
does the app store for WP7 have enough in it to keep you amused or is it still a bit bare?
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Well WP7 is designed with a different mindset... Namely, that you get all your information as fast and efficiently as possible, and therefore you spend less time playing with the phone and OS itself, and more time using it (as a tool). For example, you wouldn't spend hours a day playing with your screwdriver =D.
When you adapt to this mindset, you'll find Android and especially iOS just cannot compare.
Of course the exception is WP7 has excellent media functions and games. The XNA developer tool allows for beautiful games to be created much easier for WP7, and as XNA is already used for Xbox arcade games, many of those Xbox titles can be and have already been ported to WP7.
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Cheers for the input
I'm looking forward to a new device!
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I know this is an idiot question.
But I want to fire a subject to let people think about!
It would be good if we can experience this marvelous OS on this cheap device
Possible, but considering the fact that WM is a proprietary OS, porting it to something it wasn't meant for is extremely hard, but I think is still possible.
Windows 7 is not an open operating system. So there will never be a port. And even if it would be possible, there would be still missing hardware drivers...
Well, even if they could, why would someone try to port WM7 when we've got Android, which is pretty damn awesome with almost no restrictions...?
reminds me of porting android to the kaiser, but with far more problems...
if there were a wp7 device with similar specs it could be made possible.
but, as the previous post says, what's the point?
android for kaiser was a good-ish idea, as wm6 is... well... wm6.
well. just have a look at HD2
My colleague has just put DarkForceTeam WP7 Rom to HD2, I found it was really wonderful.
If we can do something like this to our P500, that would be marvelous. We have a big chance to enjoy an absolutely new OS on our cheap cellphone.
I still hope and thank to some developers who can do this.
I don't see any reason, why somebody should port this bad os to the optimus one.
Sorry for WP7 bashing
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I don't see any reason, why somebody should port this bad os to the optimus one.
Sorry for WP7 bashing
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What if for some reason there's a WP7 rom for the O1, and that it doesn't have the touchscreen lag bug. Would you switch?
Still don't think i would do that, doubt WP7 will be as successful as Android.
herohut said:
well. just have a look at HD2
My colleague has just put DarkForceTeam WP7 Rom to HD2, I found it was really wonderful.
If we can do something like this to our P500, that would be marvelous. We have a big chance to enjoy an absolutely new OS on our cheap cellphone.
I still hope and thank to some developers who can do this.
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And so.......Exactly WHEN Android became a "non New OS" ??
Someone thinks that Android is the BEST OS for smartphone..............
Other people thinks that iOS is the BEST OS for smartphone............
BUT all thinks that Microsoft Mobile (6.5 - 7) is the WORST OS for smartphone.........
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And so.......Exactly WHEN Android became a "non New OS" ??
BUT all thinks that Microsoft Mobile (6.5 - 7) is the WORST OS for smartphone.........
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Was there anyone who said this idiot thing 3-4 years ago?
If there is a new thing born, idiot people will have a new chance to compare with the previous ones.
If you first look at the home screen of an iOS, an Android, a Bada OS, Windows Mobile menu: ohhhhh, icons, icons and icons, yes they are almost similar, even in more details. From years to years, they are still almost similar. And if you first look at a Windows Phone 7 phone: ohhhhh different, you can realize the difference even if you don't like that style.
If you research more and learn about the technical things, you will find that the collection of these OS are all based on Linux. Windows Phone 7 is absolutely new architecture which is built by user experiences of Microsoft in years.
BUT don't put the idiot words on Windows Phone 7 if you haven't touched it even just once.
My personal idea: use Windows Phone 7: professional OS
@herohut:
I see your profile picture is the XAML logo, which means you are probably a fan of Microsoft. I myself like to use WPF, .NET, C# and Microsoft technologies, and I'll explain why.
It's not about the look of Windows 7 or MSN. Microsoft deserves respect. If you look back into history, or even now in Wikipedia, you will see that there are two families of operating systems - UNIX and Windows. UNIX once included the true UNIX, but now almost all of UNIX operating systems are based on Linux; some on BSD; some on Solaris; and off course Apple's Mac OS and iOS. The core difference between Windows-based and UNIX-like operating systems is that ALMOST all (not all) of the UNIX-like operating systems are open-source.
Off course, it is not bad for a software to be open-source, but the main problem is that almost every developer makes his own variation of the software, resulting in instability. There is no way to proove it, but everybody here should agree with it.
On the other hand, Microsoft is a developer of proprietary software, which is not only stable, but rich-featured and customizable. It is not a secret that most of Windows, Office, Visual Studio and other Microsoft products can be programatically controlled, yet closed-source. Microsoft is the developer of high-end costumer software, which means the software requirments often fulfill the quality of the software.
Linux and most UNIX-like operating systems are intended for use in either weak machines, or on supercomputers. It is also known that Windows 7 can use maximum 192 GB RAM (Which is sad for supercomputers). As a very minimalistic and customizable kernel, Linux can be tweaked to work even on a piece of wood.
So for a customer use OS, I say Windows.
As for base-level modifications, advanced features and supercomputer usage, I say Linux.
EDIT: To be on-topic:
Microsoft says it is good to have a 1GHz processor to run Windows Phone. From personal experience I can tell that it is better to buy a phone with a 1GHz processor than to modify Windows Phone to run on Optimus One. The reason is simple - preformance.
So, if you want Windows on your Optimus One, simply make a Windows Mobile 6.5/6.5.1 firmware.
And if you want to develop with familiar to you techologies, simply visit monodroid.net
Very well spoken ianis.. I will have to agree with this Guy.
And I will say at very least run 1gb for optimistic to run a wp7 port..
But im content with what I have been given for the dollars I paid.
carry on...
Astroturf?
You can off course theme the Optimus One to look like Windows Phone, but I have noticed lately that most "visual themes" are just a piece of ...err...trash.
While I was waiting for Windows 7 to come out, I decided to theme a XP machine to look like 7, just for fun.
When I searched "XP themes", I noticed that more than 95% of the results were: XP theme for ME, Vista theme for XP and 7 theme for Vista. I asked myself "Why?". There wasn't any difference. The same themes from page to page. All people just wanted to make their old OS look newer, probably without even knowing that it is possible to upgrade Windows. I noticed the same thing around here: many newbies requested a Gingerbread theme. Not even the music equalizer. I felt somehow...strange seeing people mad for a new look of their battery/WiFi icon. And not just a new look. The SAME as Gingerbread's.
I don't even believe that these people know what a system process is. And they don't care for it. They are all ready to pay money for a Gingerbread theme!
Sorry, I've gone slightly mad, but I now I feel somehow relaxed after sharing my opinion.
Ianis G. Vasilev said:
@herohut:
I see your profile picture is the XAML logo, which means you are probably a fan of Microsoft. I myself like to use WPF, .NET, C# and Microsoft technologies, and I'll explain why.
It's not about the look of Windows 7 or MSN. Microsoft deserves respect. If you look back into history, or even now in Wikipedia, you will see that there are two families of operating systems - UNIX and Windows. UNIX once included the true UNIX, but now almost all of UNIX operating systems are based on Linux; some on BSD; some on Solaris; and off course Apple's Mac OS and iOS. The core difference between Windows-based and UNIX-like operating systems is that ALMOST all (not all) of the UNIX-like operating systems are open-source.
Off course, it is not bad for a software to be open-source, but the main problem is that almost every developer makes his own variation of the software, resulting in instability. There is no way to proove it, but everybody here should agree with it.
On the other hand, Microsoft is a developer of proprietary software, which is not only stable, but rich-featured and customizable. It is not a secret that most of Windows, Office, Visual Studio and other Microsoft products can be programatically controlled, yet closed-source. Microsoft is the developer of high-end costumer software, which means the software requirments often fulfill the quality of the software.
Linux and most UNIX-like operating systems are intended for use in either weak machines, or on supercomputers. It is also known that Windows 7 can use maximum 192 GB RAM (Which is sad for supercomputers). As a very minimalistic and customizable kernel, Linux can be tweaked to work even on a piece of wood.
So for a customer use OS, I say Windows.
As for base-level modifications, advanced features and supercomputer usage, I say Linux.
EDIT: To be on-topic:
Microsoft says it is good to have a 1GHz processor to run Windows Phone. From personal experience I can tell that it is better to buy a phone with a 1GHz processor than to modify Windows Phone to run on Optimus One. The reason is simple - preformance.
So, if you want Windows on your Optimus One, simply make a Windows Mobile 6.5/6.5.1 firmware.
And if you want to develop with familiar to you techologies, simply visit monodroid.net
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I am absolutely agreed with this guy and thank you for your good idea.
I have certainly known the requirements that Microsoft forced hardware manufactures to follow: these are the standard to obtain 100% performance of WP7
But there's one thing to remark: Windows Phone 7 is not as heavy as it is thought to be. 1GHz CPU mades WP7 running very fast (as in HD2), i feel that if we have WP7 running on OptimusOne at 60% performance of WP7 standard (40% slower) [600MHz/1GHz * 100% = 60%], it will be still fast enough for us to enjoy WP7. Just see how much slower the OptimusOne runs in comparison to other Android smartphones with 1GHz.
And yes, I am a fan of Microsoft software technologies, especially the thing on my avatar, it is extremely faster to write something that runs on WP7 than in other OS
I'm currently trying to MOD HD2's Windows Phone MOD
(It's fun MODing MODs...)
Hey! I'm trying to play with HD2 WP7 DarkForces Team ROM, too. But I am just a beginner in this MOD world, trying to find out if it is possible to run WP7 on my Optimus One.
Invoke me if you need someone to mod together.
WP7 wonderful os? LOL
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Incompatible processor...not only the cycles per second, but the instructions. WP7 requires an ARM7 processor with extentions. To run it on an ARM6 Cortex there are two ways:
Hypervisor virtualization - should be very complex;
Decompile the WP7 binary and recompile it with all stock drivers remastered. Sounds harder but is probably easier.
Any help will be accepted.
I know a while ago there was talk of cotulla and friends getting WM6.5 to run off SD, does anyone know anything from irc or anywhere if this was completely abandoned?
would be pretty cool.
haven't heard anything, though not too up to date on the IRC stuff.
but no talk here minus that one post by cotulla.
if i may, what is on WM that android doesn't have? i don't use my phone but for a few programs (specific work things) and modding is mainly a distraction for me...but am curious how a dual-OS existence works in real life. just pondering. (now i am all about the development as well, it is bad ass to have options, but just philosophizing..if that is a word...)
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haven't heard anything, though not too up to date on the IRC stuff.
but no talk here minus that one post by cotulla.
if i may, what is on WM that android doesn't have? i don't use my phone but for a few programs (specific work things) and modding is mainly a distraction for me...but am curious how a dual-OS existence works in real life. just pondering. (now i am all about the development as well, it is bad ass to have options, but just philosophizing..if that is a word...)
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well currently I have WP7 and Android dual-boot. The reason it's nice is because WP7 does have a couple games I like and just for the "fun change OS" factor. Practically speaking neither WM6.5 nor WP7 have anything really functionally better, but I miss playing "experiment 13" on WM6.5 and I also wanted to play with all of the new CHT goodies I see for fun. It's more of an enjoyment thing than any real practical need.
I dual boot between 6.5 and android.
6.5 for work when I need a solid data connection and a no nonsense browser (opera 9.7).
Android at home when I want to use the XDA app and look at pictures of cats hiding in shoes....
About 6.5 from SD.
I think it may take them some time as Wm as an OS is somewhat more awkward and tricky to tinker with than android. As far as porting it is concerned. That's what I read somewhere anyway....
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It would be great to have winmo on sd many of us could then go to nand Android having opportunity to boot winmo as alternative. For example I have my beloved gps soft on winmo...
I too think it would be great to boot Win Mo from SD. This would give poople the awsome ability to still use Win Mo after that have went NAND Andriod or WP7. I myself still use the stock Win Mo ROM as my daily and preferred OS cause it fits me better and my needs better. But if I was abale to boot Win Mo from SD I would give WP7 a try for a while. I like Andriod well enough but it is just not as functional to me plus I can running it from SD anytime I want so I see no reason to go NAND.
I do think it will take a good bet longer to achieve this ability though cause compared to Andriod Windows Mobile is a much larger OS and it is written with different code. But if anyone can do it is the Cottula and the rest of DFT.
I agree it would be nice. Actually having all the OS options on boot would be nice. Just was curious what people use in Wm that isn't available elsewhere. Cool!
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jsmccabe78 said:
I agree it would be nice. Actually having all the OS options on boot would be nice. Just was curious what people use in Wm that isn't available elsewhere. Cool!
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To answer your queatuon it is really not that things in Win Mo are not avaliable in other OS'c but that so much comes built into Win Mo and for the functionality of it is more complete, atleast for me. Take things like internet sharingl/tethering and WiFi sharing. With Win Mo all you have to do is install the application and you are good. With Andriod you have to root the device for this and many more things. I like the full functionality of Micosoft Office compared to it on other mobile OS's. I like the feel of Win Mo too as it is more like a mobile PC or a extention of your home or office PC. Plus Win Mo is a true stand alone OS where as Andriod runs on top of Linux. Also to me Andriod feels more like a childs toy than a truly functional OS. Now I have not had but a limited amount of experience with WP7, but to me it is less functional than Andriod and more of a reversion to a some what dumb phone OS as it gives you limited capabilities and interface. That is just my opinion.
Would a sd build be with or without sense?
I agree it.Thank you for sharing, like very much
Very much down to whoever cooks the Roms. Once such a port is achieved anyone will be able to build roms so you'll get one of your choice.
If anyone can take care of this its cotulla and his crew!
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It is a long time which developers attracted to WP7 and android, and I've never attracted to new builds in this section.
of-course it was started for me when I've tried the first customized ROM with my HD2.
When I had Diamond, the Cooked ROM were better than the Original ones but on my HD2, the original ones are better and more stable.
Any comments?
any Idea?
please give me your opinions.
wrong section.
stock roms better than customs in HD2? you havent tried many then.. or at all.
I had diamond too and there were really good custom roms but that time there was NONE this big jump from stock to better usability.
try elegancia for example and you find really stable, fast, eye candy rom with great stuff in it.
My HD (Blackstone) was abandoned by HTC with windows 6.1 and Manilla 2.1... the amazing Devs of XDA made it a WM6.5 Sense super-machine. The HD2 (Leo) is still the best WM phone out there and microsoft themselves aren't pushing out anything much new... so the Dev's haven't got the same amount of raw material to work from to take the HD2 beyond stock (not within WM anyway).
And as the post above says, "wrong section"!
I think that Marketing drives development, because from free development You can get money with support or with custom dev.
On WM6.5 there is no more marketing around by Microsoft, at least since WP7 was commercialized.
It's just because of Windows Mobile is dying. You can't help it. No new things to port, to tweak and to achieve on our devices. Add to that Android and Windows Phone 7 working perfectly on HD2 and there is your answer.
But I have to admit that there are few heroes supporting Windows Mobile, like sir Sternas who is still improving his ROM with his own Software. I have to say that WM is very useful and capable OS, it's just no one is developing and creating for it no more. I found it troublesome to find one decent twitter client (except Peep of course) for WM, whereas on Android I just head to Market, type twitter and BAM, dozens of twitter clients, one better than other, appear. I love Sense and tried hard to use Windows Mobile (best OS to use just as a phone and basic internet browser), but if I wanted to something more than it's included in phone, it's almost impossible. You understand me?
What ROM is Sterna's?
Sternas rom is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580
"Stop worrying about Windows Mobile. The name is changing. It's not a big deal. It isn't a dead platform. (At least not yet, anyway. )"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11975316&postcount=1423
Cooked ROM on HD2
Check and search XDA for ROMs on my signature.
I agree, there have been no news for applications, I mean on the WM 6.5.5.
Developers, I believe, have given up developing apps for an already dead platform
nbee said:
"Stop worrying about Windows Mobile. The name is changing. It's not a big deal. It isn't a dead platform. (At least not yet, anyway. )"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11975316&postcount=1423
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The page you reference clearly says that there will be no more phones with anything other than WP7. The other devices are specialized for a certain purpose, or are tablets / pads, etc. Not phones.
I love WM despite it's flaws, but I don't expect more applications. The people from which I have purchased WM software are only updating android.
nbee said:
"Stop worrying about Windows Mobile. The name is changing. It's not a big deal. It isn't a dead platform. (At least not yet, anyway. )"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11975316&postcount=1423
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Thanks for quoting the info.
Many people are visiting here everyday. Windows Mobile is not dead. The cooked ROM is updated more frequent than the official stock ROM. It is still alive
As an application developer I loved Windows Mobile as it was a very capable platform (I have apps that I wrote for it that I couldn't have written for other mobile device) and the development tools (Visual Studio, SQL Server CE, etc) rock, so I'm not really happy or understand why WM is dying, but it seems it is. The question is what to replace it with. XDA Developers seems to jumped over to Android, and likely I try developing something for Android, but no doubt it will take some time before I find something I like better then Windows Mobile (I'm still writing apps for WM as its the platform I like to use myself and the ROMs here rock, for example I'm using the Energy HD2 ROM and can't find a reason to leave it, what does Android give me that Energy doesn't have?)
Android
DukeNukem said:
As an application developer I loved Windows Mobile as it was a very capable platform (I have apps that I wrote for it that I couldn't have written for other mobile device) and the development tools (Visual Studio, SQL Server CE, etc) rock, so I'm not really happy or understand why WM is dying, but it seems it is. The question is what to replace it with. XDA Developers seems to jumped over to Android, and likely I try developing something for Android, but no doubt it will take some time before I find something I like better then Windows Mobile (I'm still writing apps for WM as its the platform I like to use myself and the ROMs here rock, for example I'm using the Energy HD2 ROM and can't find a reason to leave it, what does Android give me that Energy doesn't have?)
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Android is the way to go. It has a brighter future that windows 7. It is becoming a very nice os. Windows 7 is a dead duck cant do anything with it.
What do you find in this ugly Android? Except the faster reaction comparing to WM.
It's even a problem to find a good dialer for Android.
Rest Windows Mobile rocks. Very flexible and customizable. Lot of dealers for your choice. Lot of other software.
I don't understand why people jump to some other system.
I better use WM7 then Android.
DuQ3r said:
What do you find in this ugly Android? Except the faster reaction comparing to WM.
It's even a problem to find a good dialer for Android.
Rest Windows Mobile rocks. Very flexible and customizable. Lot of dealers for your choice. Lot of other software.
I don't understand why people jump to some other system.
I better use WM7 then Android.
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Android is better because the development is continuing (unlike Winmo).
You will know why is Android better if you use Android as native (in Android handset not in HD2)
Cheers..
silverwind said:
Android is better because the development is continuing (unlike Winmo).
You will know why is Android better if you use Android as native (in Android handset not in HD2)
Cheers..
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Based on my experience with the LG G2X (I have two of them) android is a battery sucking nightmare that can't even download emails on a regular basis. Not to mention all the privacy concerns and ridiculous amounts of ads. It is useless as a business phone. It seems to be a toy OS for kids.
My HD2 with Elegancia by Steve runs flawlessly. If I want android toys and games a SD version works fine.
My wife wants to keep her G2X, but mine is going back because it is a piece of crap.
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Based on my experience with the LG G2X (I have two of them) android is a battery sucking nightmare that can't even download emails on a regular basis. Not to mention all the privacy concerns and ridiculous amounts of ads. It is useless as a business phone. It seems to be a toy OS for kids.
My HD2 with Elegancia by Steve runs flawlessly. If I want android toys and games a SD version works fine.
My wife wants to keep her G2X, but mine is going back because it is a piece of crap.
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I understand about battery sucking in Android But it also happens with Iphone and BB
So, it doesnt mean Android is bad...
I think the development of Battery technology is far left behind from the development of the device and os..
The disadvantage is as you said about privacy and ads, I do agree with you
About WInmo, dont get me wrong, I still keep my HD2 and it runs smooth with Platinum Series (see my sig). Only that, you dont have market to play with. Windows Market is not interesting to me So, I rarely play with my HD2, instead I use it more with SD Android ...
Cheers...
Just wanted to know, if there's any chance we can get a hand on a WP7 build/rom for our phones in future...
Given that samsung is going to release a virtually identical phone with WP7 on it....would be good to have this phone running both the OSs...
(might be a bit of hangover from my HD2 days)
Any comments welcome( please dont make it into a fanboy slugfest)
-MM
Probably not. WP7 is closed source and porting it would be nightmare to any dev. I've seen many posts like this all over these forums and they all said the same thing. Kind of like trying to port iOS to other devices. It would infringe on patents etc.
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But haven't they ported WP7 for HD2?
Konstantinos said:
But haven't they ported WP7 for HD2?
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Yes but that's completely different.
What you are asking about will probably never happen.
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Why would you want to replace android by wp7? (no fanboyism, just an honest question)
meletios said:
Just wanted to know, if there's any chance we can get a hand on a WP7 build/rom for our phones in future...
Given that samsung is going to release a virtually identical phone with WP7 on it....would be good to have this phone running both the OSs...
(might be a bit of hangover from my HD2 days)
Any comments welcome( please dont make it into a fanboy slugfest)
-MM
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Same question posted before dont know if the question was answered or not .
jje
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Why would you want to replace android by wp7? (no fanboyism, just an honest question)
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Some people like me, get bored of Android. If I could flash WP7, I would have done so in a heartbeat.
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I would love to have iOS on GSII but not WP7.
Anyway I don't think it's possible too.
@OP- Just use Launcher 7, least you'll have some 7 like stuff in your device
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Avelnan said:
Some people like me, get bored of Android. If I could flash WP7, I would have done so in a heartbeat.
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You'll get bored looking at tiles even quicker.
Konstantinos said:
But haven't they ported WP7 for HD2?
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If you look at the earliest prototype versions of WP7, it was run on the HD2. So all the drivers had been developed. It still required an awful lot of development to convert the finished HD7 to run on the HD2.
conantroutman said:
Yes but that's completely different.
What you are asking about will probably never happen.
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Why is it different? -_-;
Drivers for the SoC? Graphics drivers for Mali?
The HD2 runs on a very common SoC that a lot of WP7 handsets used, as it was one of the few certified for the OS at the time.
If we get a WP7 phone that uses Exynos and if the drivers are compatible MAYBE.
veyka said:
Drivers for the SoC? Graphics drivers for Mali?
The HD2 runs on a very common SoC that a lot of WP7 handsets used, as it was one of the few certified for the OS at the time.
If we get a WP7 phone that uses Exynos and if the drivers are compatible MAYBE.
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But if samsung release a wp7 phone wich is practical the same as sgs2 hardware wise.. So drivers would already be there for mali etc?
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Genuine query:
If you want to run W7 on your phone, why did you buy an android phone in the first place? If you have a hangover from previous days, why didnt you buy another W7 phone with updated features (compared to your previous one)?
Its the same with people wanting iOS on the SGSII...why not buy an iphone?
I never did understand spending £500+ on this android phone and then asking to change the OS (when you knew it came with android anyway)
Not flaming, just trying to understand why people ask these questions...
Konstantinos said:
Why is it different? -_-;
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The reason why
Hi guys,
when there will be chance to switch to WM 7.5 from Android, I'll maybe do it and here is why:
I won't buy any new mobile for it's full price, as they are very often overpriced in my country. I made an operator change and I've bought SGS II on a contract for about 120 dollars (who won't buy it then? :-> ). First few weeks I was really amazed about Android, but now I feel it has the same issues as Linux.
Like it or not, I live and work in the World called Microsoft (outlook, excel, word) and cannot switch it for something else. Sadly Android doesn't support them and I think MS wouldn't port those aps since they have their own mobile OS.
In WM all those app are natively inside the system and you get storage in MS cloud. Sync mails, tasks with outlook is way much easier than on Android. So for people like me is Android fine, but missing really important features....
jakoob_cz said:
Hi guys,
when there will be chance to switch to WM 7.5 from Android, I'll maybe do it and here is why:
I won't buy any new mobile for it's full price, as they are very often overpriced in my country. I made an operator change and I've bought SGS II on a contract for about 120 dollars (who won't buy it then? :-> ). First few weeks I was really amazed about Android, but now I feel it has the same issues as Linux.
Like it or not, I live and work in the World called Microsoft (outlook, excel, word) and cannot switch it for something else. Sadly Android doesn't support them and I think MS wouldn't port those aps since they have their own mobile OS.
In WM all those app are natively inside the system and you get storage in MS cloud. Sync mails, tasks with outlook is way much easier than on Android. So for people like me is Android fine, but missing really important features....
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You need to take into consideration that it's Windows Phone 7, not Windows Mobile. It's a brand new OS that's not even been around for a year yet, unlike the old Windows Mobile that has been around for years.
Apps-wise, Windows Phone just doesn't cut it yet, and is playing a slow game of catch-up with the likes of iOS and Android.
I hear what you're saying about WM, but WP does not have that amount of support, yet.
jakoob_cz said:
Hi guys,
when there will be chance to switch to WM 7.5 from Android, I'll maybe do it and here is why:
I won't buy any new mobile for it's full price, as they are very often overpriced in my country. I made an operator change and I've bought SGS II on a contract for about 120 dollars (who won't buy it then? :-> ). First few weeks I was really amazed about Android, but now I feel it has the same issues as Linux.
Like it or not, I live and work in the World called Microsoft (outlook, excel, word) and cannot switch it for something else. Sadly Android doesn't support them and I think MS wouldn't port those aps since they have their own mobile OS.
In WM all those app are natively inside the system and you get storage in MS cloud. Sync mails, tasks with outlook is way much easier than on Android. So for people like me is Android fine, but missing really important features....
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I am fairly certain that there is an android (and btw, a linux) alternative which supports Microsoft Office formats. Outlook is just email, no problem there. for Excel and Word, Polaris Office does the job just fine.
johncmolyneux said:
You need to take into consideration that it's Windows Phone 7, not Windows Mobile. It's a brand new OS that's not even been around for a year yet, unlike the old Windows Mobile that has been around for years.
Apps-wise, Windows Phone just doesn't cut it yet, and is playing a slow game of catch-up with the likes of iOS and Android.
I hear what you're saying about WM, but WP does not have that amount of support, yet.
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I meant Windows Phone 7. I'm reading a blog from one guy about WM 7.5 development and it seems that Mail and Office will be better in this OS. Everything is synced without third-party apps, you have skydrive and etc...
m2smoe said:
I am fairly certain that there is an android (and btw, a linux) alternative which supports Microsoft Office formats. Outlook is just email, no problem there. for Excel and Word, Polaris Office does the job just fine.
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For sure they are, but most of them didn't work well. So sometimes they didn't calculate properly or save the file such, that Microsoft Office can't reopen them. I think this is mainly MS fault, but for me is this the reason, why I will prefer native support...
Just to understand my job: I work with relatively big tables, lots of macros and sources on local network.
Hey guys
After experiencing Android Gingerbread on Xperia Arc S and Windows Phone 7.5 on HTC Radar,I've decided to sell my iPhone and go with another OS.
I'm pretty much torn between Galaxy Nexus and HTC Titan.After watching/reading reviews,I still can't decide.
Of course Nexus has a better screen,more customizable OS but on the other hand,Titan has a better camera and I kinda adore the WP7 UI.It's butter smooth
The prices of both phones are roughly the same in where I live.
Thoughts ?
Go for it, I have no regrets.
You mean Titan right ?
My wife's had a Windows Phone (Samsung Focus) since the release and absolutely loves it. I have an 3GS and recently switched over to an Android phone (Atrix 2 running 2.3.5), but I ended up returning the phone and going back to using my old iphone. Android has a ton of cool capabilities, but it's like running linux, the possibilities are endless, but you spend a lot more time tinkering than doing. There's also no cohesive hub for connecting up to your PC and syncing music/videos/pictures, you have a run a number of extra utilities.
The pitfall of Windows Phone is that not enough people use it, so isn't the developer support, so there aren't as many big apps, so not as many people use it.
My big sticking point is that the makers of my motorcycle helmet cam don't have any immediate plans to develop a WP7 version of their remote viewfinder app. Best thing to do is install the Zune software on your PC and browse the marketplace; if the apps are there to let you do what you need to, WP7 (7.5) is pretty badass in integrating between your PC and your Xbox and it feels a lot more polished than the Android or Iphone interfaces.
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My wife's had a Windows Phone (Samsung Focus) since the release and absolutely loves it. I have an 3GS and recently switched over to an Android phone (Atrix 2 running 2.3.5), but I ended up returning the phone and going back to using my old iphone. Android has a ton of cool capabilities, but it's like running linux, the possibilities are endless, but you spend a lot more time tinkering than doing. There's also no cohesive hub for connecting up to your PC and syncing music/videos/pictures, you have a run a number of extra utilities.
The pitfall of Windows Phone is that not enough people use it, so isn't the developer support, so there aren't as many big apps, so not as many people use it.
My big sticking point is that the makers of my motorcycle helmet cam don't have any immediate plans to develop a WP7 version of their remote viewfinder app. Best thing to do is install the Zune software on your PC and browse the marketplace; if the apps are there to let you do what you need to, WP7 (7.5) is pretty badass in integrating between your PC and your Xbox and it feels a lot more polished than the Android or Iphone interfaces.
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Yep the only thing I worry about WP7 is the apps but I searched the market place and I found my essential apps such as Twitter and some games.
twitter and facebook also is built in to the messaging hub, not to say that the app doesn't have extra functions.
After owning Android and WM7 phones I would go with WM7 if I were to stray from my iPhone. I just ordered a Titan with Mango. Giving it another go! I have yet to read a bad review on the Titan or Mango.
I know everybody talks about the customization of Android but honestly, that gets old after awhile. At the end of the day I just want a reliable working device.
theorioles33 said:
After owning Android and WM7 phones I would go with WM7 if I were to stray from my iPhone. I just ordered a Titan with Mango. Giving it another go! I have yet to read a bad review on the Titan or Mango.
I know everybody talks about the customization of Android but honestly, that gets old after awhile. At the end of the day I just want a reliable working device.
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I have 1 of each (Nexus & Titan), and if you made me have to decide I would have to go with Nexus/Android.
I have an iPhone 4s as well, it's back in it's box.