After reading all the negative posts made by a tiny few people, I registered just to set the record straight.
Prime is the best tablet out there, period. It can be tablet or laptop, has quad core power and so thin and light. You need to spend time with it to know how awesome it is. A very vocal minority of annoying people posting useless complaints and a lot of them are ignorant. Check out the polls and you will see majority of forum is totally in love with this.
Uneducated people using HC think this tablet should not stutter at all navigating UI. Guess what? HC is not optimized for quad core. ICS will be out soon and will fix this. This is first release people! Also firmware is coming down often from Asus to help. Also factory resetting easilly returns the Prime to responsiveness when needed. Asus deserves props for launching most powerful tablet at excellent price. This baby is 10 times better than iPad.
Browser is great too, but if its too sluggish for you just get Opera! We have choices people. Stock browser just gives you a taste of what is out there.
People complaining about GPS have started 3 threads on it. Is that really necessary? I come to XDA to find out new tricks and hacks for my TFP, not to read pages of complaints made by select few people. For majority of us GPS is not an issue. Google maps shows my position just fine. Anyone wanting 10" GPS for driving around should go get a real GPS. This is a TABLET. Even Asus Sweeden says GPS is just extra feature, not even a primary sensor. You should be happy it has EXTRA FEATURE, not complain about it! Truth is most people don't care about GPS anyway.
As for loose LCD screen, again first release. You knew there will be some minor issues so why complain about minor things. I am almost finished with my "Superglue Mod" which completely and easilly fixes this issue. I will post instructions after I figure out how to remove glue fingerprints from under screen.
Light bleed can only be seen in dark room, or during startup, but I believe my superglue mod will also fix screen bleed. Just have to figure out how to do it without glue fingerprints. For now I am recommend people just leave it alone and give factory glue more time to set. Also firmware may fix this.
Some peoples have said screen is too yellow. Its actually just color temperature they choose and is a design feature, and good personal preferance. Many people wear yellow glasses for driving or shooting to ENHANCE what they see. I for one am glad for some very slight yellow tint, because now display is enhanced.
WiFi is more than acceptable. Although not as good as my phone's but soon I expect other modders to come out with case hack which will make WiFi perfect. Might even help GPS.
Battery life is the best also.
Dead GPS isn't a useless complaint, but indeed a very valid one imho.
Not to mention it didnt start out as an "extra" feature, but was later made out to be, just to cover their asses.
And I don't know what polls you've been looking at, but the ones Ive seen were showing that the majority was less then satisfied.
And if you deem it acceptable for the first batch to pretty much fall apart, you are an idiot.
There is no excuse for piss poor QC, especially for devices of this price caliber.
You're already super gluing your screen, hope the 500 bucks was worth it?
Firmware doesnt fix hardware problems like screen bleeding either.
I agree, this is a great tablet. Some people wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they couldn't complain.
I have had no problems and the screen and battery exceed my expectations. Glad I bought it.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
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Prime is the best tablet out there, period. It can be tablet or laptop, has quad core power and so thin and light. You need to spend time with it to know how awesome it is. A very vocal minority of annoying people posting useless complaints and a lot of them are ignorant.
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I think it's beneficial all that complaining - it's pushing ASUS to develop a GPS solution.
That's pressure that helps us all.
I think it could be done more sophisticatedly however - seems like a lot of pouting going on.
However, it's a minor issue and I agree with you 100% -
Awesome battery life!!
This is right on the money! Thanks for those comments....Now I just can't wait to get mine.
It's just very sad that as consumers we have to anticipate the minor errors for initial production units. You would assume the QC for these companies would identify issues, but I think there is so much demand on a product that the company would rather release a few under par units to be returned later than delay the release. Either way, my philosophy has always been that I don't "NEED" the product right away, so sit back and wait until I'm comfortable spending the money on that product and peruse and reviews so I know what to expect. Sometimes I even decided I didn't want the product after the reviews.
I'm glad to see your positive and realistic comments. I'm right on track with your post.
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After reading all the negative posts made by a tiny few people, I registered just to set the record straight.
Prime is the best tablet out there, period. It can be tablet or laptop, has quad core power and so thin and light. You need to spend time with it to know how awesome it is. A very vocal minority of annoying people posting useless complaints and a lot of them are ignorant. Check out the polls and you will see majority of forum is totally in love with this.
Uneducated people using HC think this tablet should not stutter at all navigating UI. Guess what? HC is not optimized for quad core. ICS will be out soon and will fix this. This is first release people! Also firmware is coming down often from Asus to help. Also factory resetting easilly returns the Prime to responsiveness when needed. Asus deserves props for launching most powerful tablet at excellent price. This baby is 10 times better than iPad.
Browser is great too, but if its too sluggish for you just get Opera! We have choices people. Stock browser just gives you a taste of what is out there.
People complaining about GPS have started 3 threads on it. Is that really necessary? I come to XDA to find out new tricks and hacks for my TFP, not to read pages of complaints made by select few people. For majority of us GPS is not an issue. Google maps shows my position just fine. Anyone wanting 10" GPS for driving around should go get a real GPS. This is a TABLET. Even Asus Sweeden says GPS is just extra feature, not even a primary sensor. You should be happy it has EXTRA FEATURE, not complain about it! Truth is most people don't care about GPS anyway.
As for loose LCD screen, again first release. You knew there will be some minor issues so why complain about minor things. I am almost finished with my "Superglue Mod" which completely and easilly fixes this issue. I will post instructions after I figure out how to remove glue fingerprints from under screen.
Light bleed can only be seen in dark room, or during startup, but I believe my superglue mod will also fix screen bleed. Just have to figure out how to do it without glue fingerprints. For now I am recommend people just leave it alone and give factory glue more time to set. Also firmware may fix this.
Some peoples have said screen is too yellow. Its actually just color temperature they choose and is a design feature, and good personal preferance. Many people wear yellow glasses for driving or shooting to ENHANCE what they see. I for one am glad for some very slight yellow tint, because now display is enhanced.
WiFi is more than acceptable. Although not as good as my phone's but soon I expect other modders to come out with case hack which will make WiFi perfect. Might even help GPS.
Battery life is the best also.
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You had me inspired...right up until the super glue finger prints. Yike! What where you thinking?
If Asus can revise the hardware in order to fix GPS and strengthen Wifi to be comparable to other tablets, and can improve their QC, and ICS lives up to what people expect of it, then I will deem the Transformer Prime the best current tablet. So a Transformer Prime with fixed GPS, improved Wifi, no QC issues, and ICS is what I would call the best current tablet. It needs this confluence of improvements to be deemed "best". But I would not call it the best in its current state.
As to the OP, that is probably one of the most idiotic posts I have seen in this forum so far.
Kobald said:
After reading all the negative posts made by a tiny few people, I registered just to set the record straight.
Prime is the best tablet out there, period. It can be tablet or laptop, has quad core power and so thin and light. You need to spend time with it to know how awesome it is. A very vocal minority of annoying people posting useless complaints and a lot of them are ignorant. Check out the polls and you will see majority of forum is totally in love with this.
Uneducated people using HC think this tablet should not stutter at all navigating UI. Guess what? HC is not optimized for quad core. ICS will be out soon and will fix this. This is first release people! Also firmware is coming down often from Asus to help. Also factory resetting easilly returns the Prime to responsiveness when needed. Asus deserves props for launching most powerful tablet at excellent price. This baby is 10 times better than iPad.
Browser is great too, but if its too sluggish for you just get Opera! We have choices people. Stock browser just gives you a taste of what is out there.
People complaining about GPS have started 3 threads on it. Is that really necessary? I come to XDA to find out new tricks and hacks for my TFP, not to read pages of complaints made by select few people. For majority of us GPS is not an issue. Google maps shows my position just fine. Anyone wanting 10" GPS for driving around should go get a real GPS. This is a TABLET. Even Asus Sweeden says GPS is just extra feature, not even a primary sensor. You should be happy it has EXTRA FEATURE, not complain about it! Truth is most people don't care about GPS anyway.
As for loose LCD screen, again first release. You knew there will be some minor issues so why complain about minor things. I am almost finished with my "Superglue Mod" which completely and easilly fixes this issue. I will post instructions after I figure out how to remove glue fingerprints from under screen.
Light bleed can only be seen in dark room, or during startup, but I believe my superglue mod will also fix screen bleed. Just have to figure out how to do it without glue fingerprints. For now I am recommend people just leave it alone and give factory glue more time to set. Also firmware may fix this.
Some peoples have said screen is too yellow. Its actually just color temperature they choose and is a design feature, and good personal preferance. Many people wear yellow glasses for driving or shooting to ENHANCE what they see. I for one am glad for some very slight yellow tint, because now display is enhanced.
WiFi is more than acceptable. Although not as good as my phone's but soon I expect other modders to come out with case hack which will make WiFi perfect. Might even help GPS.
Battery life is the best also.
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that's what I've been saying but seems obvious. alot of the negative complainers aren't getting the point. they wouldn't know a good thing if it hit them in the face.
robomo said:
I think it's beneficial all that complaining - it's pushing ASUS to develop a GPS solution.
That's pressure that helps us all.
I think it could be done more sophisticatedly however - seems like a lot of pouting going on.
However, it's a minor issue and I agree with you 100% -
Awesome battery life!!
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I agree with you also. nothing wrong with voicing complaints and dislikes with the device. but do so in a more proper and constructive manner. pouting and telling people not to get the device because they had a bad experience isn't helping anyone. I think the biggest GPS thread is the only one trying to help figure out a solution. all others are just rants and overly exaggerated.
redlin'r said:
This is right on the money! Thanks for those comments....Now I just can't wait to get mine.
It's just very sad that as consumers we have to anticipate the minor errors for initial production units. You would assume the QC for these companies would identify issues, but I think there is so much demand on a product that the company would rather release a few under par units to be returned later than delay the release. Either way, my philosophy has always been that I don't "NEED" the product right away, so sit back and wait until I'm comfortable spending the money on that product and peruse and reviews so I know what to expect. Sometimes I even decided I didn't want the product after the reviews.
I'm glad to see your positive and realistic comments. I'm right on track with your post.
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we need more posts and threads like these to overshadow the ones trying to make it seem like all primes are broken or faulty. some people here believe if your device is working properly, you must be lying, or don't know any better, or ignoring the issues, or even not running the trouble shooting tests correctly. those people that assume that have no clue and try to impose and influence their negative way of thinking on other members and new people coming on to the scene. very glad that more n more people realizing the real truth.
Like I said before, if I wouldn't listened to all the negative comments and let it influence me, I would've never got this tablet. Since 12/22, I've been note than satisfied with it and easily exceeded all my expectations. only slight issue is GPS. which I'm not pressed about anyways. that's why I never bothered to give it a real test yet. once the time comes, I will.
Always happy to hear when more n more people happy with device. It is truly the best out right now and I think some people hate that that's Fact
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Uneducated people using HC think this tablet should not stutter at all navigating UI. Guess what? HC is not optimized for quad core. ICS will be out soon and will fix this.
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Can you educate me and link to a source for your claim that ICS will somehow be more optimized for quad core processors and will reduce stuttering?
Thanks.
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You had me inspired...right up until the super glue finger prints. Yike! What where you thinking?
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the super glue part does have me scratching head also..lol. I would've sent it in n let Asus send me another one or fix it. that's a lil extreme though, super glue.
Kobald said:
After reading all the negative posts made by a tiny few people, I registered just to set the record straight.
As for loose LCD screen, again first release. You knew there will be some minor issues so why complain about minor things. I am almost finished with my "Superglue Mod" which completely and easilly fixes this issue. I will post instructions after I figure out how to remove glue fingerprints from under screen.
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As a punter who has the prime on pre-order at two separate retailers in good old blighty, and who is looking forwards to delivery and appreciate the positive comments that you have made; I do wonder about the "superglue mod" as to be honest I will be returning mine for a new model if Asus bundle some superglue with mine!
When I have paid £500 for my toy I am afraid I do want it to be stuck together before I get it (I can remember how messy I was with airfix models 40 years ago ) and teh thought of a screen with superglued fingerprints on the inside of the screen makes me want to scream and also wonder what you have done for your warranty!!
Let's hope you have no major future problems with the little beast.
Andy
Kobald said:
Prime is the best tablet out there, period.
- Also factory resetting easilly returns the Prime to responsiveness when needed.
- Even Asus Sweeden says GPS is just extra feature, not even a primary sensor. You should be happy it has EXTRA FEATURE
- As for loose LCD screen, again first release.
- Light bleed can only be seen in dark room, or during startup, but I believe my superglue mod will also fix screen bleed.
- Many people wear yellow glasses for driving or shooting to ENHANCE what they see. I for one am glad for some very slight yellow tint, because now display is enhanced.
- WiFi is more than acceptable. Although not as good as my phone's
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So if the Acer and Lenovo have these issues when they first come out, are you going to cut them the same amount of slack you're cutting Asus? Because what you're basically saying is that any initial issues don't count on new devices and when judging what's "best" people should ignore its faults and view it based on what it "can" be not what it "is."
Sorry, couldn't help myself. Saying "best ever" in your thread title and then spending 1/2 of your post talking about issues and attacking people that have them just seems paradoxical.
best tablet so far? yes
good enough for me to buy? not with a locked bootloader.
If Asus doesn't unlock it I won't get one, and I'll check out what other companies are showing off at CES.
I am having real problem to remove superglue thumbprint and dont think I will release that mod. Too much potential for mistake plus screen is now lose again. Think I am try to return it for replacement.
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I am having real problem to remove superglue thumbprint and dont think I will release that mod. Too much potential for mistake plus screen is now lose again. Think I am try to return it for replacement.
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Somuch for being highly educated, hmm?
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Somuch for being highly educated, hmm?
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I'd like to see the explantion to the store associate for the super glue fingerprint when he returns it.
Its not very bad, I doubt they will notice.
Dude, I want to love this tablet as much as you do, but you sound like an uneducated fan boy in denial.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
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Its not very bad, I doubt they will notice.
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Wow... I think they will.
Theres a fingerprint, splattering and what seems to be a gash or a bit of glue that ran down the screen.
What did you do to that poor thing?
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Its not very bad, I doubt they will notice.
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holy ****, wth did you do?
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Just got my TF201 last night and I tried out some capacitive pens on it. One thing I noticed, even with my finger, is that a straight line does not come out straight. Using Supernote, i drew lines, curves, circles, letters, and they are all bumpy, as though the digitizer is not making a straight line. This can also be seen from the Developer Options in settings when using Show Pointer Location. On my GNex, it looks perfectly straight. But on the Prime, it's very wavy. Is this just inherent to tablets (maybe the bigger screen means a lower res digitizer) or just to the Prime or just to MY Prime?
I'd post examples but I don't have it with me at the moment.
No one... 22 views and no one has bothered to try it on their tablet?
Confirmed. More noticeable with diagonal lines. I wonder if it is down to the number of digitizer pixels just generating quantisation noise.
got it a bit on mine as well. Also pretty well only on the diagonal lines.
They are not big jumps, but big enough especially if you are planning on doing any precise small lines/writing
EXACTLY!!!! THANK YOu!!!!!!
it must be Prime's digitizer. seems lo res. and yea i notice it most on diagonal lines.
i went to Best Buy and did the same test on the xoom, thrive, and tf101. The digitizer on the TF101 and 201 are much much more responsive, BUT they are bumpy on the diagonal lines, the TF101 did better if i drew faster. But the xoom and thrive were super smooth no matter how slow i went.
very disappointing.
anyone else please?
PS I'll post comparative photos when i can
Have you been able to do hand write any small text? I find its almost impossible to do. It doesn't always like to register the lines when they are small movements. e seems to be one that really doesnt work well, I think because you never move very far from where you start. Not sure if this "threshold" of movement before it decides to draw a line is software based or somehow built into the hardware.
writing small doesn't work well. even on my nexus which has a very nice response. if you use the Supernote, which is a great app (asus stock app), there is a button on the top that you can turn on the writing guide and it's like you are writing on a big piece of lined paper, makes it way easier to just how big to write.
but the diagonal paths still suck.
My old Nexus One has the same problem. Strange why Asus would bundle note-taking apps with a touch panel that clearly isn't designed for it. Hopefully that Atmel maxstylus thing will come to fruition.
on the xoom and thrive, they were perfect.
but the first asus tablet was slight better but still had the same bumpyness.
the prime's is very bumpy.
makes one wonder, who the hell designs and tests (or not tests) these things that cost half a grand. it would seem someone who shouldn't be designing and no one testing designs.
My Thoughts EXACTLY
gaetawoo said:
on the xoom and thrive, they were perfect.
but the first asus tablet was slight better but still had the same bumpyness.
the prime's is very bumpy.
makes one wonder, who the hell designs and tests (or not tests) these things that cost half a grand. it would seem someone who shouldn't be designing and no one testing designs.
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Where does Asus get off putting the Prime out there as a "Premium" Tablet, with so many obvious R&D issues. I understand cost cutting, and while I am upset by that type of approach, the realities of a low margin business like hardware are understandable.
What I do NOT understand is how Asus, a company that traditionally has been know for HARDWARE, and for providing lot's of cutting edge technologies on their motherboards, ended up letting AsusDesign run the show on the Prime. Yes, the "Spun Metal" design was very attractive, and got the attention Techies and Non-Techies alike.
But even if their testing and research were SO POOR as to miss the GPS issue entirely (which I find amazing. If they missed it, they are lame. If they KNEW, they are dishonest. Either way it destroys any respect I had for the company, which they put the final touch on by showing a fixed product, dressed as a NEW product, while people were already fuming over being sold a defective design. I am not trying to dredge up that whole mess again, just saying that they show VERY bad judgement on stuff like this, time after time. Asus would like to be competitive in the Consumer PRODUCT marketplace, but they are still acting like a small HARDWARE Supplier.
Ahh well, I will stop mybellyaching, as it's not productive. But this digitizer performance, once again having the OG Transformer come out working better that the Prime is REALLY starting to Piss ME OFF!!!
I would HOPE, that after Asus gets done wiping the egg off their face (again) that the lesson learned is: 1. Design and TEST, then redesign and Test, etc... a "premium" or superior or bleeding edge device, and when it it truly ready for Prime Time (pun intended) THEN.... 2. Let AsusDesign have their way with it, and then TEST AGAIN, to validate the design does not compromise the function.
I knew Asus was young, but had I known the level of immaturity, and poor judgement when under pressure, I would probably have steered clear of the Prime... I HOPE I would have been that smart, and not let my desire get in the way of common sense.
There is a fairly high percentage of folks who will defend this tablet against ANY argument. I a sick to death of "I use my phone for GPS, why would I need it in a tablet... blah blah blah.
As an engineer, I have the deepest respect for elegant, and innovative design. That what drew me to the Prime, as the OG was quite good, but this promised to up the ante significantly. I also demand, as much as possible that all of my hardware, from my Tablet to my Leaf Blower work AS DESIGNED.
I see exactly what you are referring to un
you might have a problem with your digitizer indeed. try performing this test?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AmWOTcR7Qg
I have same issue on galaxy tab 10.1.
Drawing diagonals really slowly makes them wavy.
Tested the stylus on htc desire - same thing...
Using finger - waves are smaller, almost unnoticeable.
regards,
arizal
So far I have returned 2 primes because of bad screen bleeding and every time it is getting worse. MUCH WORSE.
Just gut my 3rd 10 mins ago and this is what I get.
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Great thread bro.
No offense but you're a liability to Asus. You should buy an ipad instead.
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No offense but you're a liability to Asus. You should buy an ipad instead.
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how dare you make a ridiculous suggestion on my thread! lol
noone. really. cares.
please. make these threads stop.
Welcome to the club. I returned 3. I don't care so much about screen bleed though, especially on the boot screen where it is most noticeable. I had stuck pixels and other weird issues.
I had two Primes with screen defects. I returned both and finally gave up on the TF201. I like the tablet overall; but lets get honest - someone over there in Taiwan is sleeping on the job when it comes to quality control. They need to be fired. It's absolutely unacceptable in this day and age for the same people to receive multiple defective units. Any my screen defects were not minor - they were pretty glaring.
Screen bleed is not even noticeable in everdsy use or during regular functions. it's only during bootup. if its minor, then that's normal. if its major bleeding, then exchange once again.
1st return due to dead pixels
2nd returning tomorrow due to 3 light bleeds
hope the 3rd one will be the one
demandarin said:
Screen bleed is not even noticeable in everdsy use or during regular functions. it's only during bootup. if its minor, then that's normal. if its major bleeding, then exchange once again.
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all my apps have a bowl or dark background. And i mainly use it at night. So it is considered regular use for me. But this light bleeding is so bad you can see is in bright light on low brightness. I should if kept my first one. At least I could sort of tolerate it
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Same here:
1 returned for lots of stuck pixels and backlight bleed
2 even more stuck pixels, less bleed
3 almost no stuck pixels (still some though) but the worse in backlight bleed and had a creaking screen
Tomorrow I will get my 4th unit, but I don't get my hopes to high up
* I know IPS screens cannot be without some light bleeding completely, but my specimens all had these nasty large "bulbs" which can even been seen on lighter backgrounds.
Returned my second prime today. Light bleed and off center screen. Bestbuy had one other there.but it was onhold!! Grr.. Want my tablet back.
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No wonder people are struggling to get a TP, all you guys are returning them for minor issues.....don't like screen bleed? Turn the light on when using it..there problem solved.
Asus would've done fine with sales if people weren't so anal about minor things like screen bleed or not being able to use GPS in their concrete and lead lined houses. Well done you guys
they should have made a white bootup screen. Then no one would have noticed it...
I dont have my prime yet but i guess its the same as with my phone? For the bootup screen brightness is set to 100%?
Barff1984 said:
No wonder people are struggling to get a TP, all you guys are returning them for minor issues.....don't like screen bleed? Turn the light on when using it..there problem solved.
Asus would've done fine with sales if people weren't so anal about minor things like screen bleed or not being able to use GPS in their concrete and lead lined houses. Well done you guys
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^^
Looking at your pic, i really didnt notice much diffference from my boot up either..
Some people are incredibly fussy, and ruin it for everyone else.
youre going to get the most perfect non-bleeding TF201 soon, then drop it on the pavement...
Then start complaining about the quality of build...
Harden up
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they should have made a white bootup screen. Then no one would have noticed it...
I dont have my prime yet but i guess its the same as with my phone? For the bootup screen brightness is set to 100%?
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Yes it looks like the boot screen is set to 100%. Mine looks very poor too. Once passed the boot screen no complaints
I've had screen bleed on two Primes that was noticeable on ANY dark background and detracted from the enjoyment of using the device. I also had one where the light bleed was not noticeable on any (normal) screen, and I would have kept that one had it not had other problems (non-functional haptic feedback, a rattle near one of the dock connectors that got worse over time).
My wife's Galaxy Tab 10.1 has zero light bleed. My original Transformer had tons of light bleed that was only visible when booting; I never noticed it otherwise during 8 months of use.
Light bleed is something that I think it highly subjective as to whether or not it's a problem. Nobody can say one way or another whether it's a problem for a given person and/or with a given device. Returning a device because it has an issue like this, therefore, is entirely appropriate and it's ridiculous to assert otherwise. Keeping a device with light bleed can also be entirely appropriate.
People have different standards for their devices. And nobody should feel like returning a device somehow deprives another consumer. It's up to the company to make enough of something, not for every potential purchaser to bite the bullet so some stranger can move up in the line.
If you are looking for perfection in something, I think you'll be highly disappointed.
Mine has some bleed but I don't even notice it once ICS is up and running.
I completely disagree. If you spend your hard earned money on something it should be free from defects. I havent complained about the gps at all. I personally do not care. The people that do care however I leave alone because gps is stated on the box. It doesnt say sometimes working gps it says gps. As for screen bleed and dead pixels....are you kidding me?? Do I agree with the hundreds of threads on the issues? No. But I do believe your product should work as advertised. Guess what, Asus isnt doing charity work here. Ever heard of cost of doing business? I run a 3 million dollar a year high end tile and stone store and i replace material for what sometimes seems like nothing to me but then I remeber..oh yeah these people that are spending 4-6k on their bathrooms are WRITING my paycheck....If something has a minor chip or scratch..guess what? Its replaced. No questions asked. This is the reason my company has gone from 24 stores to 62 store in the last 5 years. Im not talking 800sf gamestops either.. im talking 25000sf 3+ million to open showrooms. So if you are a manufacture like us sometimes you need to SUCK IT UP and do the right thing. No matter how insignificant it may seem to you these people work hard for their money just like I do. If Asus was non profit maybe I would feel different but they arent. They are in it to win it and are competing with the big boys in town and need to get their act together!!!!
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Good for posting this, it will let others know just how bad it really is.
My first prime from Gamestop has screen bleed and horrible performance, i sold it and got another from Office Depot which so far has been perfect (besides the gps,wifi and bluetooth defects we all have).
I was going to try and sell my second prime and be done with Asus all together but nobody around here will buy it lol, so I decided to just hang on to it.
A device like this should come with no defects, and you shouldn't be expected to lay down and just take it in the rear.
With all the complaints in this forum, you'd think this was a bad device.
I'll tell you, over in the tf101 forum there was no where near as many complaints and the tf101 wasn't the perfect device either.
The prime is an improvement in alot of ways.
The tf101 had backlight bleeds, I went through 3 of them before I settled.
The tf101 was sluggish, no one here can fully respect the power of the tegra 3 processor without experiencing the tegra 2. The boot time was like 4 minutes, it was slow in alot of areas that the prime isn't.
It had to use honeycomb up until 2 weeks ago, that's about a year - prime owners got it asap with a slew of support from asus for the gps/wifi issues.
The tf101 had keyboard dock issues, alot of the docks had to be sent back in.
It was fat and plastic. It was brown. It collected dust under it's camera.
It wasn't perfect.
But what device is? Galaxy tabs are diet vanilla, nothing really special or innovative about them. The follow the ipad status quo. Toshiba tabs are jokes on battery life. Acers are humongous. Ipads use proprietary apple garbage and are extremely limited by their OEM.
When I got my prime I would grip this thing tightly and say to myself "I own a ****ing transformer prime".
I waited for this thing for months through using my tf101, when everyone was hoping Q4 release meant October, but october stretched on to november, and then december when it finally came out.
But this exceptional tablet gets overshadowed by a couple of it's faults, rather than how great it's advantages are.
We own the world's first quad core tablet, it's thin, it's beautiful, it get's ridiculous battery life with it's incredibly well designed keyboard dock. We have usb connectivity, micro sd, full sized sd, hdmi, etc. Some devices don't have any of those, let alone all of them like we do.
Sure something better will come. Maybe you want a more expensive Ipad 3 with a redundant screen resolution, slower cpu, thicker design to compensate for it's thirst of excessive battery life, and lack of expansion. It's not perfect and the devices after it won't be either...
It's time we be happy prime owners. Asus did design a good device, and they don't receive credit where credit is due. I'm proud to own this tablet.
@OP: The Church of Primetology seeks chaplain
!Hail to you, oh holy Prime, father of connection lacking communication specialists!
Forgive me that I don't see your creators wisdom as he provided you also with that microsd slot so this shall be your door to the world.
Just let your green light shine and don't punch the xcsd out again because I will not find it in the sewage where I would be looking for my missing GPS if you hadn't already disappeared somewhere on a shelf of the ASUS repdep. Thank you for having enlighten my life longer than a week. Which is exceptional or was it the rule?
Give me a thank or another tablet will you.
I endorse the OP post. I ran out of thanks. good viewpoint/angle on the situation. preach on my brother thrash all those who committed sins against the prime. they need redemption NOW! lol
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Agree w the OP. I ranted about its short comings when I first got it, but after using it for a few weeks, I love it. It really is a beautiful device and fast. Its my first tab so maybe my expectations were too high at first.
BTW, what do you mean by redundant screen?
This a great device once you get it to work without crash. Everything's stable for me on .15 nd the browsing is super fast thanks to OC 1.6ghz ... its perfect for what I do
Honestly looking at benchmark (I'm at 13162) scores its the best android device out now by far
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I really like it. I'm not an Asus fanboy, in fact I try as hard as possible to not be a fanboy of anything.
That being said, there were and are shortcomings. But over time the bugs will get ironed out, CM9 and other ROM makers will do some wonders.
I don't know, when I use the Prime (especially with the new floaty browser!) I feel more like I'm using a computer, not an appliance. You know, file management is in my hands, I can f*** around with the OS, break it if I want. Whenever I use my friends' or coworkers' iDevices they just feel like appliances with a shallow OS.
But I'm not trying to sell anyone on it. Some people like it, some people don't. I like seams, I like tinkering. I learn more from it. All those folks complaining about their wifi, gps, screen issues; I guarantee you they have learned MUCH more about those aspects of mobile computing because of those faults.
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I endorse the OP post. I ran out of thanks. good viewpoint/angle on the situation. preach on my brother thrash all those who committed sins against the prime. they need redemption NOW! lol
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lol how do you run out of thanks?
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lol how do you run out of thanks?
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the thanks button underneath a post. you only have 8 per day.
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OP probably means retina display shows everything so cristallclear now you can look at it through a microscope...
Give me a thank or another tablet will you.
this is kind of weird and hard to understand how you guys settle with a device that has a lot of design flaws on both hardware and software. Asus transformer prime was my first tablet. And to be honest the one I got had nearly no light bleed, an okay wifi, kind of working GPS and fairly stable device in comparison with the horror stories that we all know through the forum. I made the though call return my transformer prime one day before my return window. The idea I had was wait a little until Asus get the problems fixed and buy a great one. However, I realized that I have to have a tablet as waiting for a fixed transformer. So I went ahead and bought a Samsung galaxy tab from Costco which has a 90 days return window. Here is my impression out of my first 10 days
-way stable. Had to reboot only one time due to firmware upgrade.
-no hiccups as I use or browse. It is dual core but performs way better than the balance mode of transformer
-screen readability is better than transformer
-wifi, GPS and Bluetooth works in a way it is suposed to be
- Form factor way comfortable than prime. No sharp uncomfortable edges. Way better feeling in your hand. I don't believe I would have written this.
-battery last way longer than prime
There are a few benefits that prime has over.
super ips display is better for outdoor use
Tergra 3 may be better for tegra optimized games. But I am not a game person and use my tablet for business.
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this is kind of weird and hard to understand how you guys settle with a device that has a lot of design flaws on both hardware and software. Asus transformer prime was my first tablet. And to be honest the one I got had nearly no light bleed, an okay wifi, kind of working GPS and fairly stable device in comparison with the horror stories that we all know through the forum. I made the though call return my transformer prime one day before my return window. The idea I had was wait a little until Asus get the problems fixed and buy a great one. However, I realized that I have to have a tablet as waiting for a fixed transformer. So I went ahead and bought a Samsung galaxy tab from Costco which has a 90 days return window. Here is my impression out of my first 10 days
-way stable. Had to reboot only one time due to firmware upgrade.
-no hiccups as I use or browse. It is dual core but performs way better than the balance mode of transformer
-screen readability is better than transformer
-wifi, GPS and Bluetooth works in a way it is suposed to be
- Form factor way comfortable than prime. No sharp uncomfortable edges. Way better feeling in your hand. I don't believe I would have written this.
-battery last way longer than prime
There are a few benefits that prime has over.
super ips display is better for outdoor use
Tergra 3 may be better for tegra optimized games. But I am not a game person and use my tablet for business.
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Galaxy tab smoother than the prime, that's cute haha. I can see how those sharp rounded corners would be a pain seeing as how they would break the laws of physics and all, can't be having that.
I'm just meeting with you though, to each his own
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prizm74 said:
this is kind of weird and hard to understand how you guys settle with a device that has a lot of design flaws on both hardware and software. Asus transformer prime was my first tablet. And to be honest the one I got had nearly no light bleed, an okay wifi, kind of working GPS and fairly stable device in comparison with the horror stories that we all know through the forum. I made the though call return my transformer prime one day before my return window. The idea I had was wait a little until Asus get the problems fixed and buy a great one. However, I realized that I have to have a tablet as waiting for a fixed transformer. So I went ahead and bought a Samsung galaxy tab from Costco which has a 90 days return window. Here is my impression out of my first 10 days
-way stable. Had to reboot only one time due to firmware upgrade.
-no hiccups as I use or browse. It is dual core but performs way better than the balance mode of transformer
-screen readability is better than transformer
-wifi, GPS and Bluetooth works in a way it is suposed to be
- Form factor way comfortable than prime. No sharp uncomfortable edges. Way better feeling in your hand. I don't believe I would have written this.
-battery last way longer than prime
There are a few benefits that prime has over.
super ips display is better for outdoor use
Tergra 3 may be better for tegra optimized games. But I am not a game person and use my tablet for business.
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a few things i hate about the galaxy tab 10.1 wifi was the newton rings on the screen...it gets worse and worse over time.
also it did not have a microsd slot nor a micro hdmi.
those were the deal breakers for me
less people complained about Toyotas having brakes that didnt work than have whined like babies about this TOY. and look at that, Toyota's still the #1 car manufacturer. so when people say we ''settled'' for our Primes, they are sorely mistaken. my Prime had to settle for ME as a user, as it is FAR beyond anything i can hope to do. I love my Prime, best gadget I ever bought
agree with the OP
I completely agree with the OP.
This device is really top notch.
Build quality is amazing, quad core is very nice (definitely will be more utilized in the close future, thank you xda ), multitasking is just awesome.
Converting from an ipad, I can safely say BYE APPLE!
Yes the "new ipad" has an amazing screen, I'll take the TFP thank you.
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Agree w the OP. I ranted about its short comings when I first got it, but after using it for a few weeks, I love it. It really is a beautiful device and fast. Its my first tab so maybe my expectations were too high at first.
BTW, what do you mean by redundant screen?
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Yeah...........wouldn't want to expect what was advertised !
Design? Who else designs a micro sd card slot that once a card is inserted, it can "Self" eject at any time !
The only thing ground breaking with this tablet is Tegra 3 and an all metal back............but I think we all know why no one else uses an all metal back, by now!
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less people complained about Toyotas having brakes that didnt work than have whined like babies about this TOY. and look at that, Toyota's still the #1 car manufacturer. so when people say we ''settled'' for our Primes, they are sorely mistaken. my Prime had to settle for ME as a user, as it is FAR beyond anything i can hope to do. I love my Prime, best gadget I ever bought
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I hate to correct you, but Toyota lost 16% of sales last year and is now no.3 after GM and VW (by a wide margin). Having said that I also have only good things to say about my lovely Prime, but it`s certainly important to note, that I don`t really use the GPS, since that duty is up to my GN. In any case I also respect other opinions, but life is sometimes nicer looking at a glass that is half full compared to viewing it as half empty
Coming from the Acer Iconia A500, I can honestly say that the ATP is WAY better in every way but one. The wifi is slightly poorer than on the Acer. That one was far from perfect either when coming to wifi. And the ranting in the Acer forum is way way less than on this forum.
I am simply AMAZED that some people expect their tablet to have a functionel GPS INDOORS!!! I can´t even get satelite lock indoors with my Garmin car gps.
I fixed the wifi problem quite simply by adding a second wifi router in the house using the house wires. And people complain about not getting a signal when they are other places than home... I just bring my own wifi in the form of a Huawei E586 (Search on Ebay)
On my Acer I had poor wifi, sluggish scrolling and browsing, squicky body, and a front and back part that did not want to stay together down in the left corner, Heavy, FAT, poor battery compared to the ATP, no alternatives regarding dockingstation.....the list just goes on.
And worst of all compared to ATP... Acers EXTREMLY POOR customer service. If you think that ASUS has bad service...try Acer!!!
Updates took forever compared to other tablet makers. I think the tf101 and Xoom got HC 3.2 about 2 months before any Acer tablet did.
I think that Acer A500/501/200 users still have to wait yet another couple of months before they get ICS.
When the A500 came out it had HC 3.0 and people had to wait several months to even get the HC 3.1. If you have ever tried the HC 3.0 you would be reluctant to even so much as try to complain about the ATP.
So if you think that ASUS works slowly to fix things.... THINK AGAIN!!
prizm74 said:
this is kind of weird and hard to understand how you guys settle with a device that has a lot of design flaws on both hardware and software. Asus transformer prime was my first tablet. And to be honest the one I got had nearly no light bleed, an okay wifi, kind of working GPS and fairly stable device in comparison with the horror stories that we all know through the forum. I made the though call return my transformer prime one day before my return window. The idea I had was wait a little until Asus get the problems fixed and buy a great one. However, I realized that I have to have a tablet as waiting for a fixed transformer. So I went ahead and bought a Samsung galaxy tab from Costco which has a 90 days return window. Here is my impression out of my first 10 days
-way stable. Had to reboot only one time due to firmware upgrade.
-no hiccups as I use or browse. It is dual core but performs way better than the balance mode of transformer
-screen readability is better than transformer
-wifi, GPS and Bluetooth works in a way it is suposed to be
- Form factor way comfortable than prime. No sharp uncomfortable edges. Way better feeling in your hand. I don't believe I would have written this.
-battery last way longer than prime
There are a few benefits that prime has over.
super ips display is better for outdoor use
Tergra 3 may be better for tegra optimized games. But I am not a game person and use my tablet for business.
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HAHA your funny!!!! I have both sitting right in front of me and I can tell you the galaxy tab doesn't even come close to the performance as our primes. I have to test on both with our applications at work and I cringe every time I pick it up. Even the ipads 1's perform better then that brick.
My contract is already up,and I have some questions about the note. For those of you using the note for a while. Is the note's size an issue or is it totally worth having even though the note is a very big phone? Screen quality how is it? Is it a fast phone? If you didn't have the note, would you buy it again? Call quality? I'm thinking about buying one tomorrow, and I wanted your input on the phone. Feel free to add any info that could be useful about the phone. Thanks guy's.
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My contract is already up,and I have some questions about the note. For those of you using the note for a while. Is the note's size an issue or is it totally worth having even though the note is a very big phone? Screen quality how is it? Is it a fast phone? If you didn't have the note, would you buy it again? Call quality? I'm thinking about buying one tomorrow, and I wanted your input on the phone. Feel free to add any info that could be useful about the phone. Thanks guy's.
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The size is really overblown on a lot of web reviews. It is comfortable to hold, fits into all of my pants pockets just fine, is really awesome when browsing the web, and the size allows for the larger battery.
I have had the Note for a month now and do no ever see myself returning to a smaller screen.
The resolution is beautiful, but there are some issues with gradients and dark scenes in movies so be sure to walk into a store when buying it so that you can run some tests on the phone they are going to sell you. There is a thread here about black clipping with a lot of great tests to try out. Some Notes are worse than others.
I love the call quality on the Note. The only downfall is that you really have to lower the volume while in a call unless you don't mind folks around you hearing it. The ear speaker is very loud.
As far as speed goes...that really depends on your phone. I have seen posts where people are experiencing lag even though I haven't personally experienced any of it.
I started off with the white Note, but returned it due to the soft keys having bad light bleeding at night. They can be turned off, but it bugged me so now I have the black/blue one.
Also, try out the stylus. I didn't realize it until I exchanged my Note, but the stylus on the first one was really laggy and unresponsive. I thought it just sucked until I got the second Note. It should be snappy and precise.
I am now running DAGr8's ICS rom and have turned the DPI down to 240. It really enhanced the phone by making the resolution smaller which in turn gives you more space for widgets, icons, etc.
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My contract is already up,and I have some questions about the note. For those of you using the note for a while. Is the note's size an issue or is it totally worth having even though the note is a very big phone? Screen quality how is it? Is it a fast phone? If you didn't have the note, would you buy it again? Call quality? I'm thinking about buying one tomorrow, and I wanted your input on the phone. Feel free to add any info that could be useful about the phone. Thanks guy's.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. The Note is large, yes, but very easy to hold and get used to due to how thin it is. Screen quality is unmatched by anything out there in my opinion. The combination of Gorilla Glass, Super AMOLED, and 720p resolution are really awesome. Some people say they have lag, but I have not had or used a faster Android device. Also, if you are in an LTE area, you get that awesome speed too. If I didn't have it, I would still be drooling over it. I got lucky and got it for half off, but if I hadn't, I would still be waiting a couple months until summer to buy it, which I definitely would again. Call quality is also great, and speakerphone is also loud and clear.
Now for the other things I highly commend the Note for. The SPen is awesome. You may think it's gimmicky, but you would be wrong. It's great for jotting down quick notes while on a call. Great for making funny captions on pictures before you send them. Great for navigating the phone. Great for Swyping with the tablet Swype beta. Great for taking screenshots. Also, we now have ICS, which brings some new and exciting features, my favorite being face unlock. I really can't recommend this phone enough. People may say, wait for the gs3 or one x, but I don't see the attraction. We already have ICS, and those other phones are small compared to the Note, and won't have the SPen. You may think the size is too big, but you get used to it really easy, and my nope had now ruined any smaller of a device. Also, battery life is the best I've experienced on any Android, besides the RAZR MAXX, but who wants a Moto phone anyways?
Really, the only way I would upgrade to another phone is when the Note 2 comes out. I don't have a single complaint, and this screen is killer.
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To answer your questions.
Is the note's size an issue or is it totally worth having even though the note is a very big phone?
I came from a Streak, I'm a BIG guy and the phone sits well in my hands. My gf has freakishly small hands and she says it's too big for her hands, but loves the fact that she can put it into her purse and can easily find it. It does look silly holding up to your head and talking though.
Screen quality how is it?
Personally I think the screen quality is great for a 5.3" device. A lot of people are complaining about black crush (there's a good thread on it) and while it's there, personally it isn't enough to bug me, I've watched low res videos for a long time and it just doesn't bug me anymore.
Is it a fast phone?
A lot of people are complaining about lag on their phones and yes I can see it there from time to time but I run 2 RSS feed readers, 5 email accounts, 2 weather widgets, and quite a few other things. The device is speedy, I can play games like shadowgun without the hint of lag, when i tell the phone to do something it might think about it for an 1/16 of a second then away it goes. So is the phone fast? I say yes it is.
If you didn't have the note, would you buy it again?
In a heartbeat
Call quality?
I love it, it's clear and easy to hear people, except my gf, she has the original droid and that thing has a TERRIBLE mic and speaker. a lot of our fights have been caused by her phone . Again it does look silly when you hold it to your head, but I've never been one to shy away from looking silly.
In short, depending on what you want to do/replace with the phone I'd say buy it. I use mine to manage 100 servers and RDPing into them while on the move which it does a great job on. I can read docs on the go and pull up webpages to prove people wrong and they can read them without having to hold my phone.
Lastly, if you're in one of those great states that charge you tax on the full price of the phone (in this case 700 smackers), look for a Sam's Club. I bought my phone on release day from them for 260 and with tax it was under 300.
Thanks for posting these questions. I have my upgrade available later this month and I am strongly considering the Note.
What I want to know is, as far as anyone can tell, is there a color or build location that seems to have fewer problems overall? I have seen a few places that people seem to think the white ones are less laggy. There was some speculation that the China Notes have less black crush. I'm pretty color neutral on these. I just want to be able to look at the box and get a sense that the one they give me has a better chance of being issue free.
How in the hell would the color of the plastic around the phone affect performance? :what:
That's like painting flames on your car to make it go faster.
Black crush is fixed in ics
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How in the hell would the color of the plastic around the phone affect performance? :what:
That's like painting flames on your car to make it go faster.
Black crush is fixed in ics
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First, Black Crush is not fixed in ICS, they just lowered the point of full black so it would appear better. The dropoff is still severe, but it is less noticeable. I don't own the device but I have been following these things very closely.
Second, I did not come up with the color thing. It is based off what I was reading. In this case it is not at all like painting flames and expecting something to go faster. They very well might come off different assembly lines with different QA and different physical runs of parts. I know its a longshot, but that is why I am asking if anyone can verify. I realize it is more likely that the Chinese vs. Korean Notes may exhibit some differences. Again, I am asking in the Q&A section to be sure.
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First, Black Crush is not fixed in ICS, they just lowered the point of full black so it would appear better. The dropoff is still severe, but it is less noticeable. I don't own the device but I have been following these things very closely.
Second, I did not come up with the color thing. It is based off what I was reading. In this case it is not at all like painting flames and expecting something to go faster. They very well might come off different assembly lines with different QA and different physical runs of parts. I know its a longshot, but that is why I am asking if anyone can verify. I realize it is more likely that the Chinese vs. Korean Notes may exhibit some differences. Again, I am asking in the Q&A section to be sure.
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From what I've read the only issue that seems different between the white and black is the micro crack that people have in the white ones. It seems spread wide on who has a good one and who has a bad one. So to be fair I can understand where studacris is coming from on the color. As for the black crush, I can't say either way as I'm running completely stock non-rooted, but I'd imagine that if it's hardware related then no it wouldn't be fixed with ICS, if it's software related, other phones would be experiencing the same issue. Lastly I guess a good question would be who bought their phone where and if it's running poorly or not to see if there's a correlation with the batches.
Hey guy's thank-you for posting your opinions and thoughts about this phone. If you have anything else to post please do so and I'll be here checking out this thread as the day rolls on.
I had a Streak for over a year, and I wouldn't have replaced it with a device with a smaller screen. Think about what you do/want to do with your mobile device. If you mostly use it for talking on, than maybe the Note is not for you. But if you do a lot of email, Web surfing, navigation, playing games, etc. than after you've used a Note for a week you'll never want to use a smaller device again, and you'll wonder how you ever did before
I have a white one and my phone rarely shows any lag, and my quadrant scores ate just as high as anybody's...not that wouldn't means much, but people seem to obsess over it. There isn't any difference between the two except that micro crack thing, although I'm sure that could also be a problem with the black version. I say that, because a similar crack would be nearly impossible to see in black plastic. When I had my old iPhone 3g, I exchanged it multiple times due to the problem that they had with cracking around all of the ports, and it was really only visible with the white ones. I looked at multiple black ones that friends had, and they all had the cracks, but you basically had to look at them with a magnifying glass in the right light to see the cracks. Therefore, I think it may be the same case with the Note.
Really, I can't recommend this phone enough. I dare a manufacturer to try and top it, because that would be a hell of a feat in my eyes.
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I know we're sick to death of the GPS and WiFi issues and I think we're all in agreement that we're stuck with what we have, like it or not. However, I'm seeing a lot of other problems that are getting onesie posts and it seems to me that a general 'problems' thread would move it all into one place - so the 'I don't want to see any negative discussions of the toy I spent $500 on' crowd will only have one thread to avoid in the future.
So allow me to start. Last week I got my GPS dongle and when I attached it, it worked quite well...
However, a few days later, I found that the backside 8MP camera had failed entirely. When I launch the camera app, it hangs for a few minutes, then comes up with a 'preview' image that's the desktop kind of chopped up and shuffled, but in shades of brilliant green.
If I switch to the front (1.3MP) camera, it works correctly.
I've factory reset it. No change.
I've hard factory reset it. Also no change.
I grabbed the last firmware and reflashed that. Still no change.
So I called Asus and they've RMAed it, so it goes back today.
I have no evidence that there's a relationship between the GPS dongle and the camera failure - so, I won't make one other than to note that that was the only thing I've stuck into my Prime in the last week. Could just be a coincidence.
Very frustrating nonetheless. It's like most all the tech I bought around Christmas is failing and going away for a month or more to repair.
Sorry to hear your toys aren't being so fun
The camera thing is a little unsettling. I don't use my tab to take a lot of pics, but I sure would be peeved if it went out. I take it your bootloader is still locked? Were you rooted? Can you get it to work again by putting pressure on the backplate around the camera?
see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444084 for a similar thread
Tried that already... mod closed it. It is really time to sticky the thread mentioned above!!-- that is if the op would update it.
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Sorry to hear your toys aren't being so fun
The camera thing is a little unsettling. I don't use my tab to take a lot of pics, but I sure would be peeved if it went out. I take it your bootloader is still locked? Were you rooted? Can you get it to work again by putting pressure on the backplate around the camera?
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I use mine to video meetings and presentations... it runs for almost an hour per chunk and the battery can record about 8 hours with the dock.
I've not unlocked mine, so it's pure Asus ROM.
I tried pressure to see if I could get the GPS to work (didn't), and now that you've mentioned it - I hope that's not what buggered the camera.. but alas, no - I didn't try that as a fix for the camera.
It's off to Asus RMA limbo now... so I can't check it.
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see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444084 for a similar thread
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I did read that thread - but it was more for known issues... I was hoping to focus on other less common 'real world' failures and problems... like the camera failing, or someone trying to hang a device on the USB.
Believe me, given how short tempered and touchy some of the people here are to anything even remotely negative, I sat and thought hard about even considering posting this... but the camera failing right after attaching the GPS dongle struck me as kind of important...
Diamondback has not closed this thread and actually referenced it when closing another thread like it. If this is where we can keep a list of known issues, THEN GREAT! Can I get you to add some issues to the list?
Potential issues:
- Sod (sleep of death)- device will not wake up when power button is pressed. (reported more of an issue on firmware prior to .21 but still seen intermittently)
- Browser wait or force close- Web browser seems to offer you the option to wait or force close frequently, wait usually allows the page to load.
- Heavy 3D games crash- Issue seems worse after .21 update, frequent force close and outright crash when playing T3 optimized games, sometimes reboot.
- Camera freeze- when completing a video recording the camera can freeze and ask to FC or just stop responding to any input.
- Input freeze while download/install- issue occurs when installing or downloading in the background where you are unable to press any buttons including the home or back.
- Screen Mura- Many users report dark/light patches in their LCD, this seems to be common and some users are just now noticing the issue.
- Cracked Screen- This is an interesting one, many claiming that the dock is causing it and some have even resorted to creating their own bumpers to prevent the prime's screen from touching the dock. Some have had it crack just by picking up the tablet itself. Some claim it is the pressure of holding it by a corner and cleaning the screen while holding.
- Digitizer inaccuracy- This is the complaint "I can't draw a diagonal line without it going all wavy on me!" It is an actual issue and although there are users reporting settings that allow it to work properly, the default configuration will leave anyone who just opens it up and tries to draw an "X" scratching their heads.
- Device fit/finish issues- Some users report bezel separation and some report that light pressure near the camera increases wifi signal.
- Sound issues- User reports of audio dropping out all together until reboot is performed.
Having 6 primes go through my hands since January from B-C3 serial numbers, I have seen the majority of these issues first hand and can confirm that some devices seem to have more of these than others, but still have yet to find one that suffers from none of these issues.
Having serious issues since .21 with game reboots. Seems I can't play any of the games with heavy graphics to work properly. It's driving me crazy. Do we have any fixes? I'd like to be able to play the games I've spent money on for longer than 10 minutes without the entire game crashing.
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Having serious issues since .21 with game reboots. Seems I can't play any of the games with heavy graphics to work properly. It's driving me crazy. Do we have any fixes? I'd like to be able to play the games I've spent money on for longer than 10 minutes without the entire game crashing.
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I get this issue frequently also, it seems to me that they work better after a fresh reboot. I sometimes launch a game and it will work for about 10 min like you said, then freeze or graphics corruption. I reboot the prime and then it seems to play fine for as long as I want to, but if I start launching other apps before playing the game, it does the same 10 min, then needs reboot. Demandarin said that there was an update coming soon that will address the issue but that was almost a month ago. Have not seen any updates from Gary from asus either?!?!?!?
I would also like to be able to play my games with no issues. WHEN WILL THIS MADNESS END?!?!
KDLMaj said:
Having serious issues since .21 with game reboots. Seems I can't play any of the games with heavy graphics to work properly. It's driving me crazy. Do we have any fixes? I'd like to be able to play the games I've spent money on for longer than 10 minutes without the entire game crashing.
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This was a fix for me and many others...
[MOD][Custom Build Prop] Increase Overall Performance & Battery Life of PRIME
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647357
You will have to be rooted since you will be altering/adding to build.prop. I did read somewhere in the OP about being able to do it even if you are not rooted.
Since I did this mod my Prime is even more responsive and fast. All the games I've had issues with are no longer issues. Or just wait for the update. I here that the fix will be in the coming update as well
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jordanmw said:
I get this issue frequently also, it seems to me that they work better after a fresh reboot. I sometimes launch a game and it will work for about 10 min like you said, then freeze or graphics corruption. I reboot the prime and then it seems to play fine for as long as I want to, but if I start launching other apps before playing the game, it does the same 10 min, then needs reboot. Demandarin said that there was an update coming soon that will address the issue but that was almost a month ago. Have not seen any updates from Gary from asus either?!?!?!?
I would also like to be able to play my games with no issues. WHEN WILL THIS MADNESS END?!?!
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Calm down lol. I know everyone is so accustomed to having there updates every week we are somewhat spoiled in a sense. I would rather they take there time then put out a solid update and make sure it actually fixes and have a positive experience from it.
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I would like a stable update also, just want my prime to work properly, or at least get us nv flash so I feel good enough about unlocking to flash someone's stable custom rom.
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Diamondback told me to post here:
After 5 months of ownership, I regret having dropped so much...
...money on a tablet that Asus clearly didn't give a crap about. For $600, you can get a fast processor, thin and light tablet, bright screen AND:
- an ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE touchscreen digitizer (seriously, my kid's Toshiba Thrive 10" (which came out a year or so before) has a gorgeous digitizer, and the TF201 has a piece of junk bottom of the barrel. Touch-Screen Tune Up can't even help it. You cannot make a straight line for your life. you can't make a nice continuous curve at all, it's pathetically low resolution. At first I was frustrated because after I noticed things were crummy, I went to BestBuy to try it on the TF101, Thrive, and Xoom, and the TF101 still had issues, Xoom was ok, and the Thrive was the best. For a product that cost half as much as the TF201, it has an infinitely better digitizer)
- an exposed MicroSD card while in its slot, so it's nice and easy to accidentally bump it and pop it out.
- Nearly Zero accessory availability (they are always out of stock on chargers, cables, whatever)
- An all metal case that does indeed kill radio signals (who was the genius that came up with that one)
Ok, so the main issue is the terrible digitizer. Even when i'm scrolling up and down on a webpage, i see the screen jump every centimeter or so as my finger reaches a new digitizer point. It is a joke. The most important piece of hardware on a TOUCH device is the TOUCHSCREEN and it is easily the worst touchscreen on any touch device i've seen and it happens to be on the most expensive touch device i've ever seen. That's what really ticks me off. If I paid 100 bucks for it I wouldn't care so much since I would expect cheap parts, but for $600 I do not expect cheap parts.
And within a couple months of it's release they already announced the replacement 700 tablet, with the main changes being a higher res screen and a plastic port for radios to communicate. Nice going Asus. Your other products might be solid. You blew it on the TF201. I'd like to see how the 200$ Nexus 7 is with respect to the digitizer. for 1/3 of the price of the TF201, did asus use a crappy digitizer with it too??
My kid's first gen tablet has a top of the line digitizer and the one that cost over half a grand has one that looks like it came off a palm pilot.
/end rant/
ugh... i hate getting ripped of, and i hate incompetence.
Yea there are positive things about the tablet, there is a whole thread about that. But this really upsets me. When you buy flagship and literally state-of-the-art stuff, that's what you expect. Maybe I shouldn't have bought my son's $250 dollar tablet, then i wouldn't have known how badly Asus ripped of their customers on their $600 tablet.
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I would like a stable update also, just want my prime to work properly, or at least get us nv flash so I feel good enough about unlocking to flash someone's stable custom rom.
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So much for that hope!!.. still no freakin fix with .28!
and I agree, the digitizer is garbage! My wife refuses to take notes on it because of the "diagonal line issue" where you can not get a diagonal line that is actually straight, no matter how hard you try!