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Hi there,
I just got my touchpad 16gb and on boot (dark) my screen looks like this:
Is this normal on touchpad or should I send it back.
Thanks for your opinions!
drtek said:
Hi there,
I just got my touchpad 16gb and on boot (dark) my screen looks like this:
Is this normal on touchpad or should I send it back.
Thanks for your opinions!
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It's an IPS display pannel screen, which are known for being super bright and having light bleed on blacks. However, they also have the best color gamut (range) and quality. Apple uses them for all of their displays (including the ipad). You could turn down the brightness a bit if it bothers you.
Mine had the same issue
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Mine had the same issue
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What do you mean by had? Did you send it in for repairs or did you cope?
Thanks.
drtek said:
Hi there,
I just got my touchpad 16gb and on boot (dark) my screen looks like this:
Is this normal on touchpad or should I send it back.
Thanks for your opinions!
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If I were you I'd definitely send it back while you still can and claim one of the 100,000 - 200,000 HP is going to produce next month. Mine has a slight cloudyness / gohsting effect like yours but is barely noticeable even on max brightness on a black screen. These Touchpads have been know to have screen defects due to improper installation or settling in during production. So if it were me I'd send it in for repair. Sorry you just got it and will end up missing it while its away I feel your pain. Hope I could help.
To fix the issue...
Go to setting and slide down the BRIGHTNESS...
Hope to solve your screen issue.
Mine looks identical to yours. Though I don't notice it very often in normal use.reminds me of my old g2x screen (also ips). I guess just live with it.
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Mine looks similar. Luckily it's only really noticeable as the device boots.
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backlight clouding
my touchpad got the same issue, seems to be normal, sadly
Add another one to the list.
All 3 touchpads I purchased exhibit similar backlight bleeding--all along the same left side, near the speakers.
1 was about as severe as the attached picture in the OP. The others minimal.
My guess is faulty design in tandem with the IPS technology resulting in what seems to be widespread--aka normal.
Yeah, i notice it on my normal desktop IPS monitors as well, but mostly if you have brightness way up and a full black screen. IPS has a drawback that it does not display true black very well. I keep my normal monitors at like 30-40% brightness (much higher and I would go blind from it) and I don't really notice it.
All are the same
Have seen 6 of them plus mine...same issues.
Deal with it at 99... whe ask perfection for a tablet at the price of the photo frame. HP should return your money and donate the tablet to a poor kid in the third world. They will save some money in that case...
If less means "more" than "all" will be nothing!
Yeah my Asus Transformer IPS panel also had light bleed. It the IPS panels are excellent screens, but this is one of the prices you pay. Besides during normal use you don't really notice it.
I advise not staring at your screen while it's booting up.
Got my TP back from the European Service Center (located in Hungary) today.
Well, the bleeding on the left edge of the screen got slightly better BUT the operation left visible marks on the housing.
It seems they pried the Touchpad open with some sort of tool around in the area of the rubber seal surrounding the display, thus leaving "screwdriver-marks".
I will contact HP Support again.
Should have listened to you IPS Panel guys
Two small pinpoints of white light on the screen. Are these dead pixels? Stuck Pixels?
I'm guessing that either way I should exchange it. So, apparently Asus is going to be having quality issues?
JazzMac251 said:
Two small pinpoints of white light on the screen. Are these dead pixels? Stuck Pixels?
I'm guessing that either way I should exchange it. So, apparently Asus is going to be having quality issues?
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http://www.flexcode.org/lcd2.html
let it load
select "fix my screen"
if it doesnt go away after it runs... if it doesnt auto close after a minute, just close it
its a dead pixel
return son!
No dice. Thanks anyway.
Guess this bad boy is going back...
I got a replacement Prime yesterday and thought everything was perfect until I opened my web browser to google, which is pretty much all white and noticed a bright spot like you are describing in the title. Mine are definitely NOT stuck/dead pixels. I know because I returned my first one in part because of stuck pixels. It's almost like these pixel(s) allow slightly more light through than the adjacent pixels. Sort of like light bleed but not at the edge of the screen. I can only see it on white or very, very light backgrounds. It disappears entirely on darker colors.
It is unfortunate but I will not replace this again for a third time. It goes away unless my Prime is charging or docked (which I assume is because it is similar to the tablet being plugged in) and can only be seen on an all white background. I will never use my tablet plugged in, I charge it at night when I sleep, and the limited amount I have it docked is not an issue since it only shows up on an all white background and seems less noticeable than a dead/stuck pixel. Honestly, a smudged screen is more noticeable/annoying. Since I don't use my dock much it will probably end up having a dead battery anyway which means I really wouldn't see it much, unless the battery in the dock is required for it to function while attached, I'm not sure but will find out. Thinking about it I guess it probably does need to be charged for the ports and everything to work unless it leaches off the tablet. Who knows...I'll test it at some point.
It is kind of strange though and I really dislike trying to justify a flaw to keep a $500 device but whatever. IPS screens have some nice benefits but they seem to have a lot of flaws too like bright spots, pretty bad light bleed and more stuck pixels than I am used too. I went back and forth in my OCD head so many times about how many times I would exchange or return this device before I get one that is pristine but if I return it there is nothing else that interests me.
Asus had quality issues with their past Transformer and to think the 1080p tablet will be any different is ignorant.
Anyway, end blog. Since that's what XDA is now
Where did you guys get yours from?
DroidHam said:
Where did you guys get yours from?
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Best Buy, ordered 1/6.
JazzMac251 said:
Two small pinpoints of white light on the screen. Are these dead pixels? Stuck Pixels?
I'm guessing that either way I should exchange it. So, apparently Asus is going to be having quality issues?
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If it's only 2 pixels and they are not directly adjacent, it's unlikely that they will take it back as that is deemed an acceptable tolerance for dead/stuck pixels. I think you need to have 5 or more total or 2 directly adjacent.
Pretty much all manufacturers use this guideline I believe. I hope I am wrong and you do get to exchange it.
Doktaphex said:
If it's only 2 pixels and they are not directly adjacent, it's unlikely that they will take it back as that is deemed an acceptable tolerance for dead/stuck pixels. I think you need to have 5 or more total or 2 directly adjacent.
Pretty much all manufacturers use this guideline I believe. I hope I am wrong and you do get to exchange it.
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I had one dead pixel on my Xoom and Best Buy replaced it without even turning it on to verify
I had two stuck pixels when I first got my Prime. Running pixel fixer apps didn't fix the problem. However, both of them have "unstuck" themselves after a few days of use. If you have some time before you have to return it, you may want to wait a little.
EDIT: Check that. I just ran a dead pixel test and only one of the two unstuck itself. The other one is so unnoticeable to me that I haven't seen it.
JazzMac251 said:
Two small pinpoints of white light on the screen. Are these dead pixels? Stuck Pixels?
I'm guessing that either way I should exchange it. So, apparently Asus is going to be having quality issues?
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Same issue here, bottom right of the screen, small patch of white light in the browser window about an inch from the corner..
Not sure whether to return, the rest of the tablet is awesome!!
I just got another one and about 7 dead pixels the kind you can see on
Black screens and also slightly a bit of light bleed where the headphone jack is
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I haven't realized this before until I bring up a new document from polaris app. I then noticed three bright pixels on my screen far brighter than rest of the screen.
I called Asus and they said if they can't fix the issue then I can choose to receive a refurbish or new prime.
Guys check your screen.
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Are you telling me to check something that I have to look at every time I use it? Really?
I had this on my second one. But mine was more of a bright spot rather than a pixel. It varied in intensity whether my prime was plugged in or not. If it was plugged in it was way brighter.
dilfatx said:
I haven't realized this before until I bring up a new document from polaris app. I then noticed three bright pixels on my screen far brighter than rest of the screen.
I called Asus and they said if they can't fix the issue then I can choose to receive a refurbish or new prime.
Guys check your screen.
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Sh*t happens. RMA it. Least they are offering you a new prime! Thats good.
I'm pretty sure what your seeing are dead pixels. I have 2 currently on mine. For me it doesn't reveal itself under dark colors. But light colors seems to bring it out. When I rebooted and when the ASUS screen popped up I examined the screen real hard and noticed that those same pixels were actually dead. Which explains why I couldn't see it under black background. The Asus loading screen is black but it has backlight lit up to were I can see those dead spots. I don't know just my own findings. Could be completely different.
Edit: Mine was also a bright spot. Made more defined when under lighter backgrounds. Like I said. When under the boot screen look at it again maybe have to adjust it in an angle and you will see that it appears to be a dead pixel where that same bright light is.
Evo_Shift said:
I had this on my second one. But mine was more of a bright spot rather than a pixel. It varied in intensity whether my prime was plugged in or not. If it was plugged in it was way brighter.
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That is better description. The spots are under half inch each.
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redpoint13 said:
Are you telling me to check something that I have to look at every time I use it? Really?
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I'm saying to check if your screen has defects, that is all.
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Evo_Shift said:
I had this on my second one. But mine was more of a bright spot rather than a pixel. It varied in intensity whether my prime was plugged in or not. If it was plugged in it was way brighter.
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I have one of these also. It's only visible on white backgrounds and even then it's not a big deal. It's bottom left when my Prime is in the correct landscape orientation.
deadwolfbones said:
I have one of these also. It's only visible on white backgrounds and even then it's not a big deal. It's bottom left when my Prime is in the correct landscape orientation.
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All three are on lower half when on landscape on mine.
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I'm deciding between a tf201 or a samung tab 7.7 but I've been reading a lot of reports that users are getting backlight bleeding and others are not.. what is the actual stand on this, is the backlight bleeding normal or just common?
People defend it by saying that even the ipad2 has bleeding, I've checked 3 ipad2's from relatives and none if it had any backlight bleeding including a single ipad1 and 2 iphone4's.
For TN based displays I understand its normal for it to have bleeding.
As an ex-Asus fanboy, there definitely is a light bleed issue. Most prominently around the right and bottom sides of the tablet. IF you look around at the forums about light bleed issues, you'll notice that people who have had the issue say "I'm not on my 4th prime" or something similar. It's an issue with shotty quality control.
I bought a prime and had a light bleed issue. Majority of that light bleed could only be seen when the screen was black. However, it is very significant light bleed. Other tablets or IPS devices that have light bleed are similar, but just not as pronounced. Asus really redefined light bleed
I traded in my first Asus Prime and received a second one (BC) from the same store. It had light bleed in almost the exact same location, and in some cases worse. None the less, I took that back and just kept my money. Hopefully a galaxy tab 2 or Iconia A700 or TF700 or IPAD 3 will serve me better for the $500 I spent.
Bottom line -- if you're going for a prime, you're most likely going to get light bleed (chances are slim you won't). And after spending a week with it, it gradually got worse.
I might try to buy one again at the end of February to see if they improved the quality.
Pubnum said:
As an ex-Asus fanboy, there definitely is a light bleed issue. Most prominently around the right and bottom sides of the tablet. IF you look around at the forums about light bleed issues, you'll notice that people who have had the issue say "I'm not on my 4th prime" or something similar. It's an issue with shotty quality control.
I bought a prime and had a light bleed issue. Majority of that light bleed could only be seen when the screen was black. However, it is very significant light bleed. Other tablets or IPS devices that have light bleed are similar, but just not as pronounced. Asus really redefined light bleed
I traded in my first Asus Prime and received a second one (BC) from the same store. It had light bleed in almost the exact same location, and in some cases worse. None the less, I took that back and just kept my money. Hopefully a galaxy tab 2 or Iconia A700 or TF700 or IPAD 3 will serve me better for the $500 I spent.
Bottom line -- if you're going for a prime, you're most likely going to get light bleed (chances are slim you won't). And after spending a week with it, it gradually got worse.
I might try to buy one again at the end of February to see if they improved the quality.
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i am actually on my 4th prime! lol. And yes still have bleeding and it is getting worse after just 2 days.
wait for the for the TF700 if you dont need it now.
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I dont need it now but I want it now... so with the S-IPS panel specification there should be no backlight bleeding correct?
EarlZ said:
I dont need it now but I want it now... so with the S-IPS panel specification there should be no backlight bleeding correct?
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Of course there "SHOULD" not be any backlight bleeding. No manufacturer wants to produce a display with light bleeding from the sides.
The reality is that most Primes suffer from this and it is up to the user to live with it or not. The one I had did have some bright spots along the lower edge of the screen and I would have put up with it had it not been for the constant reboots.
For me its not gonna be acceptable considering the price and the touted S-IPS since I've never personally seen one with backlight bleeding. I guess I have to wait it out.
EarlZ said:
For me its not gonna be acceptable considering the price and the touted S-IPS since I've never personally seen one with backlight bleeding. I guess I have to wait it out.
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Utility of a device is always a matter of perspective. Some people look past it mostly because they want it so bad. I teased myself with it for about 7 days and finally made a decision that it could wait (mostly because the backlight bleed became worse!)
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Of course the "SHOULD" not be any backlight bleeding. No manufacturer wants to produce a display with light bleeding from the sides.
The reality is that most Primes suffer from this and it is up to the user to live with it or not. The one I had did have some bright spots along the lower edge of the screen and I would have put up with it had it not been for the constant reboots.
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Exactly. The question is, would have anyone noticed if they were not looking for it? It's a psychological question I often ponder. I almost forgot about my backlight bleed because I really didn't experience it during normal lighting conditions and apps/background not highlighting the bleeding. The tablet also is fricking amazing from head to toe with regards to functionality, ease of use, and performance.
However, its a shame as the backlight is turned up all the way when you first start the tablet. Since the startup screen uses a complete black backdrop the first experience a brand new Prime user will have (and yes you WILL have it) will be light bleed.
I will watch a lot of movies on in and for sure a dark scene cant be avoided and I even use an all black background or a black and white picture so its gonna be noticeable on my regular use including the fact that 85% of my usage will be in the bedroom with lights off.
I've had my prime for about 10 days. It's got what I would consider minor light bleed. When I first turn it on and it's going through the boot screens, there's noticeable bleed in the top right corner and along the bottom in several spots. However, when the homescreen comes up (even with a dark background - i.e. the ASUS live wallpaper at night), I can barely notice any bleeding at all.
So, I guess my point is, if you're using it with the lights off, your screen brightness will be at its lowest setting and hence light bleed should be barely noticeable if at all.
Meh still! 100 times better than my old windows 7 laptop. I look forward to using the tablet vs my desktop or laptop because the screen is so beautiful. I still think many of you like me are tech junkies and will buy the next greatest thing when it comes out...
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EarlZ said:
I'm deciding between a tf201 or a samung tab 7.7 but I've been reading a lot of reports that users are getting backlight bleeding and others are not.. what is the actual stand on this, is the backlight bleeding normal or just common?
People defend it by saying that even the ipad2 has bleeding, I've checked 3 ipad2's from relatives and none if it had any backlight bleeding including a single ipad1 and 2 iphone4's.
For TN based displays I understand its normal for it to have bleeding.
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Keep in mind that the ICS setup screens are NOT totally black. They are black at the top and then lighter towards the bottom. I've had many people mistake this for light bleed
pdanders said:
Keep in mind that the ICS setup screens are NOT totally black. They are black at the top and then lighter towards the bottom. I've had many people mistake this for light bleed
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I'm awre of that, I'm gonna use a totally black png image to check for lightbleeding if ever I decide to get one.
First two primes I owned, returned due to stuck pixels are HORRIBLE light bleed. 3rd one barely any bleed (slight amount in upper right hand corner, BCOK serial number. 4th and 5th prime, C10K serial numbers, zero light bleed. Very happy with them.
(reason for 3, one for me, my wife and bought one for my brother in law for his birthday).
So you have a C1 and no light bleed?
Light Bleed getting worse
Has anyone seen their light bleed becoming worse as time goes by? My Prime came and there was only a slight light bleed in the lower left corner and was only noticeable during boot. I have now had the Prime for 3 weeks and the Light bleed has gotten worse. I now have light bleed up the left side, across the bottom and up the right side. Is anyone else seeing this with their Primes?
Others also reported that its getting worse.
Mine has bleed, but the only time I ever notice is when it's booting. They all have some form. iPads have them also. Mine did.... it's the nature of IPS, apparently.
Enjoy your TF201, stop staring at a plain black screen.
Mine has just a bit of bleed along the bottom, not really noticeable and nowhere as bad as our TV. The top-right corner however, on the bootup screen and any solid black (does not show up in any other color ) has pretty bad bleed. I'm pretty sure this is down to only having pressure in the four places this screen does.
If I push the panel's corner in toward the glass in that spot the bleed disappears, and no amount of tightening on the nearest screw will help.
I have not noticed mine get worse in the two weeks I've had it, but I reseated all the screws and made sure they were snug...
I don't know... I've had mine for a week and I don't have any light bleed. None that I can notice at least..
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The backlight bleed 'issue' is either hit or miss. I had a B1 grey for a couple of weeks before my C1 Champagne pre-order finally came in and the B1 had no backlight bleeding what-so-ever. My C1 has a small amount light bleed along the right side, which from the sounds of it is fairly common on the C1s.
In my opinion the backlight 'issue' is not that big of a deal. In my normal daily use it is something I don't notice at all. As others have mentioned if you do get one with light bleeding the only time you really notice it is on the boot screen.
Just got my N9 today from Best Buy. Have any of you noticed light bleed from the top of the screen?
Yep. From the top. Most noticeable with white.
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I think every device has some light bleed from the top, so it's unfortunately by design. Mine also has a small brighter spot a the lower left bottom, but it doesn't bother me at all.
jantheman said:
I think every device has some light bleed from the top, so it's unfortunately by design. Mine also has a small brighter spot a the lower left bottom, but it doesn't bother me at all.
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I'm upgrading from a Galaxy Tab 8.9. Never noticed any sort of bleed on it.
Soundchasr said:
I'm upgrading from a Galaxy Tab 8.9. Never noticed any sort of bleed on it.
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I should have made it clearer that I was talking about all Nexus 9 devices, not all devices.
Yup i have light bleed on mine also. Was thinking about exchanging but it appears that I'll most Lieut get another with bleed
I noticed some light bleed on the top edge in portrait mode. I didn't think anything of it at first but it really stands out in landscape mode.
Bleedgate?
I have some slight light bleed on the top of the screen in portrait mode. I'm not sure what to do...
My N7 2013 had light bleed also. Its not that bad unless you're looking for it.
The light bleed seems to be a manufacturing defect. Also, the flexibility when pressing on the middle of the back of the device seems like a design flaw. I wonder if Google will address these as known issues.
I took a couple of pics while running PixelTest.
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I took a couple of pics while running PixelTest.
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And that's pretty much how mine looks like. There is noticeable light bleed especially around the status bar area (dark statusbar )
Yep. I got it too, but it isn't all that noticeable. There seems to be a large gap between glass and screen in general.
Yes, mine has the same light bleed at the top as well.
I got my black 32GB from the play store in UK. My screen is perfect. No light bleed at all. I've never had a tablet with no light bleed so this is the first. :good:
When I first turned the unit on, my first reaction was on my God!
Large light bleed, top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right!
I must admit it seems to have died down some what.
Contacted Google as soon as I turned the device on ?
They offered a full refund or to exchange my device, think I will wait for a few days and decide what to do!
Thing is there are no other tablets I like! See what Google is going to do, wonder if they will address these issues?
Light bleed, my nexus 7 2013 has it a bit, which then can only view when your starting up the device, but does it really impact the screen quality? no it doesn't.
White 32gb. I have horrible screen bleed on all corners and edges. I have never seen anything this bad. Another joke in build quality is the creaking back, every time I slightly move my hold on the tablet, the back creaks.
I might have been able to overlook these flaws if the Nexus 9 was priced cheap, but at £410, this build quality is just totally unacceptable. Its a joke.
I will be asking for RMA and if the replacement also has screen bleed, I will be requesting a refund and reconsider my desire to purchase the Nexus 9.
Light bleed on mine too... Top side only.
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I got my black 32GB from the play store in UK. My screen is perfect. No light bleed at all. I've never had a tablet with no light bleed so this is the first. :good:
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Lucky guy!
MRobbo80 said:
When I first turned the unit on, my first reaction was on my God!
Large light bleed, top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right!
I must admit it seems to have died down some what.
Contacted Google as soon as I turned the device on ?
They offered a full refund or to exchange my device, think I will wait for a few days and decide what to do!
Thing is there are no other tablets I like! See what Google is going to do, wonder if they will address these issues?
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Did you buy from Play Store?