Watching 720p 10bit Anime - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

One of the biggest things I do on my Prime is watching Anime. And I noticed that lately some of my newest anime shows won't work correctly. Most of them are tagged with a 720p 10bit in the filename. I know the prime works with 1080p so why wouldn't this work? I dug around and found out that its like a high profile 720p and on most computers the screen will come up green and if so just update your player (I use cccp) and it should work. So it seems like its software and not really a hardware limit. Has anyone found a app that handles 10bit files? I tried dice/stock/bplayer/mkplayer and they all kinda work slowly or have studders but play my 1080p or 720p 8bit ones fine.

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Yeah you need a media player that can decode Hi10p videos to have them play without artifacts. I'll poke around and see if I can find any that do. I have some Hi10p files I'd like to play as well.
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Apparently MoboPlayer can decode Hi10P videos but only in software, so I'm not sure how the Prime will handle it. I can't test it out till I get my tablet tomorrow but let me know if you do. I've got a 1080p Hi10P copy of Redline I am eager to see on that gorgeous display!

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Cool thanks a bunch ill test it too when I get home. I deleted the 10bit files last night. And with the quad cores I doubt it wouldn't work I played the same file flawlessly last night on my dell 3ghz dual core with crappy on board video and 4 gb ram. I can't see why the prime couldn't handle it.
Which one is it?
https://market.android.com/details?...GwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5jbG92NHIuYW5kcm9pZC5uaWwiXQ..
or this
https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDEsImNvbS5tb2JvLnZpZGVvLnBsYXllci5hcm03Il0.

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MrCapcom said:
And with the quad cores I doubt it wouldn't work I played the same file flawlessly last night on my dell 3ghz dual core with crappy on board video and 4 gb ram. I can't see why the prime couldn't handle it.
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It's 4 cores but clocked at max 1.3 Ghz and also ARM not x86. Still, I think they should be enough to decode anything. At least they have NEON extention, which should be used for decoding by software players (Tegra2 didn't have it).

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MrCapcom said:
Cool thanks a bunch ill test it too when I get home. I deleted the 10bit files last night. And with the quad cores I doubt it wouldn't work I played the same file flawlessly last night on my dell 3ghz dual core with crappy on board video and 4 gb ram. I can't see why the prime couldn't handle it.
Which one is it?
https://market.android.com/details?...GwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5jbG92NHIuYW5kcm9pZC5uaWwiXQ..
or this
https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDEsImNvbS5tb2JvLnZpZGVvLnBsYXllci5hcm03Il0.
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The first one I believe. That is the one I saw linked to on another forum anyway.

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SOunds like you need Dice Player, hands down the best video player for any Android device it supports.

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Video playback demo video - Dice Player playing everything:

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I tried Dice Player Trial and it didn't play the files correctly am I missing something? does the pay version offer better support for 10bit?

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Try BS Player.... I tried DICE, MX and Mobo, Vplayer, etc last night and BS was the only one that would play everything (even 1080p) smoothly, even over a network connection from my server. If you use it over a network, go into BS Player and use its LAN mode. For local playing content, change the decoder to the system hardware decoder and not the BSEngine hardware decoder. Works so much better.

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MrCapcom said:
One of the biggest things I do on my Prime is watching Anime. And I noticed that lately some of my newest anime shows won't work correctly. Most of them are tagged with a 720p 10bit in the filename. I know the prime works with 1080p so why wouldn't this work? I dug around and found out that its like a high profile 720p and on most computers the screen will come up green and if so just update your player (I use cccp) and it should work. So it seems like its software and not really a hardware limit. Has anyone found a app that handles 10bit files? I tried dice/stock/bplayer/mkplayer and they all kinda work slowly or have studders but play my 1080p or 720p 8bit ones fine.
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Can you post a link to one of these 10bit files? or a sample of one?

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I've tried almost every player and I've conceded to the fact that one doesn't exist. 10bit encoding has only just begun to be supported within the last few months within the big codec packs and such. But I have faith that eventually we will see support for it on the android platform.

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I don't know of any device that can play 10 bit h.264 high profile in hardware. This is the newest type of encoding and it delivers even higher quality at a lower file size. However, it requires serious horsepower to playback (much less encode). So essentially, it's only good for watching on PC's right now with enough power to playback the files in software.
Best to encode with High Profile 8 Bit if you want to play it on the Prime.

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jamesey10 said:
Can you post a link to one of these 10bit files? or a sample of one?
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I'm watching
[sage]_Mobile_Suit_Gundam_AGE_-_12_[720p][10bit][8f15D800].mkv im sure u can find it via google. The images look like this when I play through BS Player
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A rather unexpected benefit of the ICS update is that all my video players are now using hardware acceleration with every video I can throw at them, even my 10bit 1080p mkvs are using hardware acceleration (and playing smoothly). However, I am getting artifacts on the 10bit encodes and audio doesn't always work with hardware acceleration.
Guess it's back to finding the perfect video player since moboplayer won't display subtitles w/ hardware acceleration, mplayer won't software decode audio. . . blah.
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Think I found my winner: MX video player
It's allowing me to select s/w decoding of audio tracks, handling dual audio tracks, subtitles and it's using hardware acceleration for the video so that i don't have to recompress my videos. . . Just grab and go.

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ill have to try to see if i get better results forcing software for audio and hardware or w/e for video

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Tekara said:
A rather unexpected benefit of the ICS update is that all my video players are now using hardware acceleration with every video I can throw at them, even my 10bit 1080p mkvs are using hardware acceleration (and playing smoothly). However, I am getting artifacts on the 10bit encodes and audio doesn't always work with hardware acceleration.
Guess it's back to finding the perfect video player since moboplayer won't display subtitles w/ hardware acceleration, mplayer won't software decode audio. . . blah.
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Think I found my winner: MX video player
It's allowing me to select s/w decoding of audio tracks, handling dual audio tracks, subtitles and it's using hardware acceleration for the video so that i don't have to recompress my videos. . . Just grab and go.
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That's interesting with the ICS update. MX Video Player can decode 10-bit videos in software (since 10-bit videos currently cannot be hardware accelerated), but what's the performance like? I doubt 1080p would be smooth unless it has a low ref frames, but 720p might be passable.

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So there are currently no video players that support both 10bit H.264 and subtitles? That's a shame. I tried a few different players (can't remember the names) and there was one, I think diceplayer which seemed to work best with mkv and subs but no 10 bit support.
Then I read this on the mvideoplayer site (sorry, can't post links yet)
>Video formats supported: Depends on your phone...
>Subtitles: srt,ssa,ass,sub,mpl,psb,txt,smi
Now I read somewhere that the Galaxy S2 natively supports MKV and 10 bit (haven't tried it yet as I just assumed the stock player wouldn't do it). So that being the case, it looks like this program uses internal decoders and is able to read the subs. Has anyone had any success with this?
How about VLC or coreplayer from the corecodec guys? I think those are our best bets but I'd like something ASAP.

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t3ch7 said:
That's interesting with the ICS update. MX Video Player can decode 10-bit videos in software (since 10-bit videos currently cannot be hardware accelerated), but what's the performance like? I doubt 1080p would be smooth unless it has a low ref frames, but 720p might be passable.
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I am rooted (ICS) and overclocked to 1.6ghz, so take heed with my comments. 720p 10bit anime's appear to be playing acceptably in software mode without any artifacts. 1080p is out of the question in software mode; however, the artifacting present with hardware acceleration isn't too bad so I haven't been bothering to transcode my 10bit videos when I transfer them to my prime.

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Tekara said:
I am rooted (ICS) and overclocked to 1.6ghz, so take heed with my comments. 720p 10bit anime's appear to be playing acceptably in software mode without any artifacts. 1080p is out of the question in software mode; however, the artifacting present with hardware acceleration isn't too bad so I haven't been bothering to transcode my 10bit videos when I transfer them to my prime.
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That gives me some more info to work with. Thanks!
What 10-bit encodes have you tried? The biggest problem is there's no set standard from these encoders - you'll come across some 720p files that were encoded using 8 ref frames, but others that use 16 ref frames (which is more demanding to decode).

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I have two 10bit Anime series with me currently, per MediaInfo:
The 1080p series is listed as 23.976 fps AVC(High 10[email protected])(CABAC / 16 Ref Frames)
and the 720p series is listed as 23.976 fps AVC(High [email protected])(CABAC / 16 Ref Frames).