I no longer have the device in question in hand, but other people may find this same problem so I felt I should post it anyway.
I eventually gave up on Snowball and just rooted it with Indirect's method and it went correctly, indicating that I had automount shut off and USB Debugging on correctly.
* daemon not running. starting it now *
* daemon started successfully *
List of devices attached
2014910063424006 device
Did your Nook Tablet show up?
Type Y for yes and N for no:
Please make your decision:y
First need to make sure you didn't lie about it showing up, I also need to check
for root and a sdcard...
Verifying that your device is indeed a Barnes and Noble Nook Tablet...
2 KB/s (0 bytes in 2176.001s)
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ro.product.device=blaze
The internal media storage does not seem to be mounted...
Are you sure you turned off automout?
Press any key to continue . . .
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After pressing anything the window closes and nothing happens.
http://li362-167.members.linode.com/...s_launcher.apk
it is an apk that you must download FROM your NOOK browser.
if you just copy it to an sd or the nook, it won't recognize (I dont know why)
it will say change settings to allow install( do the crap )
then go to the most bottom option (don't have nook with me)
and it will say USB Debugging check that and on the bottom, it will say auto mount (uncheck)
If you are OCD then you can check both USB debugging but only the top is required
then plug in your nook and make sure it says USB debugging on and then run the Snow Mod thing and it wont give you the error
(thank You button) click it
Sir, Im sorry, I cannot thank you this time for two reasons. Your link is broken, and you did not thoroughly read before telling me I fail, so Im sorry to say, "You sir, have failed."
The_Joe said:
I eventually gave up on Snowball and just rooted it with Indirect's method and it went correctly, indicating that I had automount shut off and USB Debugging on correctly.
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I stated clearly that I was able to root it with Indirects method, which as I understand it, indicates that USB Debugging and Automount were turned on and working. Also, the installer wouldnt have found my device without USB debugger turned on, Unless I am very much mistaken. Also, I did re-check and un-check auto mount multiple times.
Excuse me for not thanking this time, I will happily do so next time friend.
The_Joe said:
I no longer have the device in question in hand, but other people may find this same problem so I felt I should post it anyway.
I eventually gave up on Snowball and just rooted it with Indirect's method and it went correctly, indicating that I had automount shut off and USB Debugging on correctly.
After pressing anything the window closes and nothing happens.
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This was an error in the earlier install scripts scripts. The most recent download of snowball-mod.zip should _not_ have this issue.
When was this updated? I encountered this error on the 1st.
If thats the whole answer then that explains a lot.
The_Joe said:
When was this updated? I encountered this error on the 1st.
If thats the whole answer then that explains a lot.
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I believe the install script bugfix was on the 2nd. >_<
Wow. Just wow. Well, I get my own NT on Jan 12th, I will attempt snowball again that night. Thanks for the explanation!
The_Joe said:
Wow. Just wow. Well, I get my own NT on Jan 12th, I will attempt snowball again that night. Thanks for the explanation!
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NPs, it was a retarded break, that I didn't bother to test, because I didn't want to reroot my NT for the 42nd hojillionth time. That will teach me! >_<
Well, I cannot wait to see the fruit of your hard work.
Before I found that error, I was having issues with the ADB drivers. It took me a few hours to fix that problem. I posted up a guide and you are welcome to link to it, or take parts of my writeup for your install guide.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424563
dude i just got my ass wooped by
The_Joe
and sorry but i did not say you 'fail'
in the post above
Snowball Rocks!
cfoesch:
I couldn't post this in the main thread in the developer's forum, so I will add to this string:
I too had problems on the 2nd with the first batch file hanging, and the second not seeing the NT. I followed these instructions to fix the adb driver (to kill the autoinstalled driver for the USB storage drives) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363652 and although it still hiccupped a couple of times, the second script finally ran through.
So far, it is a great mod. I have the following observations/ questions/ suggestions:
There are still some secondary menus/settings screens where the contrast isn't quite there... check the account settings for gmail, for example. They are more readable than they were with white on white, however.
Any suggestions on apps to handle copy/paste functions, or the ability to long press on entry boxes to bring up input mode selections, etc? Similarly, something to access running or recently used apps, like the long home press on a phone? I love the NT with your mods!
skifellows said:
There are still some secondary menus/settings screens where the contrast isn't quite there... check the account settings for gmail, for example. They are more readable than they were with white on white, however.
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This has been addressed in a few other threads, but there is some deeply flawed design decisions made when the B&N dev team designed the framework-res.apk. As a result, "Bright" is dark, and "dark" is bright. This means that in a lot of cases drawing themed bright text on black will produce black-on-black text.
It's basically broken, and there is little that can be done for it right now. Sorry. (I hate it, too, so don't worry, it's definitely not off my plate.)
Any suggestions on apps to handle copy/paste functions, or the ability to long press on entry boxes to bring up input mode selections, etc? Similarly, something to access running or recently used apps, like the long home press on a phone? I love the NT with your mods!
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Um... I don't know about copy/paste. I think that's a HC feature that isn't available for GB... honestly, I just started using android at the beginning of December, so I'm not a guru in using it yet... the underpinnings though? I've been using *nixes for nearly a decade now, so that stuff is easy for me.
Running or recently used apps: NT Hidden Settings should have access to this menu. At the very least it is on a menu under one of the menus.
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Apologies if this isn't purely a dev question, but developers would be most likely to know the answer and other devs most likely to benefit from the answer.
If your touchscreen no longer works, how can I make a backup? So I don't lose my photos, contacts, and need to reinstall every app/every setting when they give me the replacement phone? I'd temp root and run Titanium Backup but with the touchscreen bad I can't even unlock the phone, let alone navigate the menus in TB.
My Evo 3D touch screen suddenly went crazy yesterday. I try to drag the ring to unlock the phone and the ring just jumps up a bit, wiggles a little, maybe unlocks, but then when I'm on the enter pattern page I can't because it doesn't register my finger properly, it registers touches sort of but won't register finger drags. The phone was working fine, it was plugged into my car's USB charger and audio jack, but right after I disconnected this happened.
(I tried safe mode, tried removing the battery, tried plugging into the normal HTC charger, screen just acts crazy.)
Thanks!
Quinxy
Can you connect with HTC Sync? I think you can backup from there but I'm not sure (I have Sensation but used HTC Sync only once)
idavid_ said:
Can you connect with HTC Sync? I think you can backup from there but I'm not sure (I have Sensation but used HTC Sync only once)
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Thanks! I didn't know HTC Sync existed, now downloading and will try that. Will post back when I see what it does and doesn't do, and if it'll work without my screen being usable.
Quinxy
you could use adb shell and copy the important thing to the sdcard if they aren't already there iirc pictures are stored on the sdcard anyway... you can also use adb pull to grab the files and put them on your computer.
pictures are already on your SD card, apps automatically reinstall after android 2.2, and your contacts should sync with Gmail. settings you would have to setup again.
BTW this should be in the Q&A section.
idavid_ said:
Can you connect with HTC Sync? I think you can backup from there but I'm not sure (I have Sensation but used HTC Sync only once)
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Hmm, installed HTC Sync but it just says "Device not connected", it looks like you need to make sure your phone's USB setting is changed from "Charge Only" to "HTC Sync", which I can't given the touch screen issue.
For those that want it, you can find that software here:
Download HTC Sync Software
And per the advice of others in this thread I found the following which describes using adb shell to backup key data. It requires root, though, so you'll need to temp root. I haven't tries this yet, but this will be next:
Backup/Restore with ADB Shell
^ Quinxy
Why not just pull the SD card and back that up. Or keep it. Swap it with the new phone. Thats where your pictures are. As for your apps that sucks but not a lot can be done about that.
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quinxy said:
Apologies if this isn't purely a dev question, but developers would be most likely to know the answer and other devs most likely to benefit from the answer.
If your touchscreen no longer works, how can I make a backup? So I don't lose my photos, contacts, and need to reinstall every app/every setting when they give me the replacement phone? I'd temp root and run Titanium Backup but with the touchscreen bad I can't even unlock the phone, let alone navigate the menus in TB.
My Evo 3D touch screen suddenly went crazy yesterday. I try to drag the ring to unlock the phone and the ring just jumps up a bit, wiggles a little, maybe unlocks, but then when I'm on the enter pattern page I can't because it doesn't register my finger properly, it registers touches sort of but won't register finger drags. The phone was working fine, it was plugged into my car's USB charger and audio jack, but right after I disconnected this happened.
(I tried safe mode, tried removing the battery, tried plugging into the normal HTC charger, screen just acts crazy.)
Thanks!
Quinxy
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Ah, yet another touch screen issue. Mine is doing the same thing, but not as bad. Did you try just rebooting? (you probably did)
But, as suggested, I would do the temp root and then copy files from there that you need. But if you have your gmail account in there, it shouldn't be an issue.
This might seem like a stupid question but do you have anything covering the screen? Otterbox, screen protector, sometimes I get a few drops of water on screen and it won't respond until I wipe clean and then turn off screen. This is just to see if the screen really is not working or if something is making it think that there are multiple contacts on the screen and not responding to your finger.
Thanks for your help everyone... I've successfully moved everything to the replacement phone. For posterity and anyone who wants to needs to do the same... Here's what worked best for me.
1) Temp fre3vo root with Busy Box, SU, etc. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152101)
2) Backed up apps and settings to computer via adb pull. Apps are in /data/app and settings are in /data/data.
3) Moved SD card from old phone to new phone.
4) Avoided Market setup until I restored settings. Restored settings from computer via adv push AFTER weeding through the list of pulled items and moving out any items that were com.android, com.htc (or had htc or android in the name). Altered permissions on the dirs I copied over. Android looks like each app has a different owner (e.g., app_145)?!?! So I just chmod -R 777 the dirs in question (leaving the others as they were); surely there's a better solution, but it worked, I'll try to fix it better later.
5) Ran Market, let it reinstall the apps it knew about.
6) Copied over a few setting files manually, like the wifi supplicant file.
7) A few apps didn't automatically install from Market so I went to my backup of /data/app and ran "adb install foo.apk" to install those remaining apps.
8) Re-installed two apps which force closed (Super Manager and Lookout Mobile Security).
And voila... All my apps and app settings were moved to the new phone without much fuss!
Hope it helps someone else.
Quinxy
Screencast
Download Screen Cast http://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/. It's Java Based and works on all operating systems.
Download and Install Android SDK - http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
Temp Root Your Phone with Fre3vo.
Open Screen cast with your computer and connect phone.
Make sure USB Debugging is Enabled in Settings on Phone (Hopefully you can do this or already had)
Now you should be able to control your phone from your computer and recover your data etc.
Good Luck!
SpyFi said:
Download Screen Cast http://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/. It's Java Based and works on all operating systems.
Download and Install Android SDK - http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
Temp Root Your Phone with Fre3vo.
Open Screen cast with your computer and connect phone.
Make sure USB Debugging is Enabled in Settings on Phone (Hopefully you can do this or already had)
Now you should be able to control your phone from your computer and recover your data etc.
Good Luck!
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Nice. Info. Gonna try this tonight.
Locked & Loaded
SpyFi said:
Download Screen Cast http://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/. It's Java Based and works on all operating systems.
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Awesome, thanks for turning me on to this! I used to love being able to remote control my Pocket PC with the MS SDK back in 2001 and have been annoyed finding nothing like that for Android (or my iPhone before that)!
Quinxy
I haven't opened my Nook Tablet yet, but was wondering about the over the air updates.
Does the tablet automatically update, without your knowledge, to the newest OS... or is it more like the iPhones over the air updates that tell you there is one available and you then can download and install it?
moviecouple said:
I haven't opened my Nook Tablet yet, but was wondering about the over the air updates.
Does the tablet automatically update, without your knowledge, to the newest OS... or is it more like the iPhones over the air updates that tell you there is one available and you then can download and install it?
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It does so automatically and without your consent as long as your device is "on" (e.g. asleep) with WiFi on. Turn off WiFi and you are apparently safe. My interpretation of other posts is that it won't happen while you are actively using the device but I've seen no hard proof of this.
Then I have a follow-up question. If it does this automatically... then how can I prepare my device for rooting and sideload apps. You need to be connected to the internet to do this at certain points. Won't it auto update before I have a chance to do all this?
Although mine is still sitting under the Xmas tree, you would have to connect to a router first before you could recieve a FOTA, so you should have the opportunity to turn off Wifi.
moviecouple said:
Then I have a follow-up question. If it does this automatically... then how can I prepare my device for rooting and sideload apps. You need to be connected to the internet to do this at certain points. Won't it auto update before I have a chance to do all this?
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takes 3-5 minutes to download OTA update. Only turn on wifi long enough for downloads needed for root or just sideload them and you should be just fine. Follow video's on my channel if you need a walk through. I am uploading one now on how to block ota using indirects titanium backup apk patch
Since I already have Fotakill.apk on a SD card (transferred from my Galaxy Tab), couldn't I just sideload that into my Nook Tablet first before I do anything else to block the OTA? Will that work and then start the rooting/sideload steps?
moviecouple said:
Since I already have Fotakill.apk on a SD card (transferred from my Galaxy Tab), couldn't I just sideload that into my Nook Tablet first before I do anything else to block the OTA? Will that work and then start the rooting/sideload steps?
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Someone posted that the Fotakill apk didn't keep them from getting the update. Need to either freeze devicemanager or edit the settings file for it. There's an easy tutorial in the development section that does the settings file change for you using Titanium Backup.
So then what's the overall best way right now to Root/Sideload and kill the OTA's? I can use either windows or Mac and I also have a Galaxy Tab to grab apk's.
Too many threads on what works or doesn't work.
Can anyone confirm that the update will not hit will actively using devise. I can side load the five apk's that I want in short order. Then if I understand how the update works, I will still have access to the pre-update apps. after 1.41 is downloaded. I'm just not comfortable rooting right out the box at the moment. Long time member but first time poster, thanks to everyone for all info. on this site.
So if I just wanted to sideload apps without rooting... all I would need to do is
Enable "Unknown Sources"
Enable "USB Debugging" and other USB debugging further down
Untick Automount
moviecouple said:
So then what's the overall best way right now to Root/Sideload and kill the OTA's? I can use either windows or Mac and I also have a Galaxy Tab to grab apk's.
Too many threads on what works or doesn't work.
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Windows Root
Mac Root
Block OTA
I don't think anyone truly knows. I got hit by 1.4.1
Sucks...
curtym said:
I don't think anyone truly knows. I got hit by 1.4.1
Sucks...
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Ditto. I wish we had a moderated sticky post at the top of the forum, with no commentary and no questions that provides the current known state of affairs with respect to preventing the over the air update. I know many of the devs here are tech wizs and while it may be obvious to them and think it is reasonable to squirrel through multiple forums and threads to figure it out, it would be so much easier for everyone concerned to have a one-stop location that a select few folks could keep updated.
Thanks and keep up the good work
If you were smart, you would've backup your apps and data with Titanium backup or similar app. If you got 1.4.1, do factory restore, reroot, and block the ota update.
OTA update are automatically. It happen when your NT is asleep and charged. Same with NC. You can do manually update too by copying the update zip to the media folder, I think from NC experience.
I have been nagged enough times, I am shooting a video today on restoring back to 1.4.0 and rerooting then blocking OTA
Okay,
So, I finally upgraded from my old POS HTC TP2 and got a Samsung Siii, which so far is beyond description. However, being that I'm primarily a Windows Developer, and VERY used to the way windows operates, I am finding it rather difficult to adjust to system level configurations with the Android OS.
Like, in windows there's a Registry, which on the phone or on the computer if you know what you are doing you can configure manually and effect massive changes to the system. But I can't seem to find anything like that for the Android OS, which make some sense, but there are some things I'd like to change:
Screen real-estate.
So I go from this TP2 which had like a 2 inch screen, and 480x600 or something, to this SIII with a 4.6 inch screen and damn near double the resolution. but on my Tp2 I could see like 10-12 emails/texts listed, and with Cookie's Home Screen, I could have up to 25 apps on one screen.
Given Screen Dynamics, I should very simply be able to see 20 emails/texts on screen, and 60 apps, but like people who move from a 1280x1024 desktop to a 2048x1280, their resolution goes up, but they also increase the size of the icons and fonts so effectively their desktop real-estate hasn't changed. Working visual Studio (and most other editors not used for WYSIWYG documents like Word) my font size is like 7-8pt type on 1680x1050 resolution. I am not visually impaired here, so I can read small print on a big screen, yet I even with the smallest font setting the default applications and text are MASSIVE. I can see like 8 text conversations and 7 emails. When you browse to a website the size is tiny, and I can zoom to an appropriate level, which currently provides 10 times the amout of information than the default home and app screens provide. Instead of "Small,Medium,Large" etc, is there any low level configuration where I can define the icon/font DPI to say that true 7pt type is perfectly acceptable for me? Are there any Apps that do this?
Texts & Emails.
Not to say that I'm much of a nay-sayer, but do we have to have stupid little bubbles for my chat screen? I mean, simply list them out in text. It's called texting, not "comic book bubbling". the bubbles get in the way and I'd simply like to make them a simple line by line. Sure the emote icons can be drawn in, and with other graphics to indicate attachments and such, but can I turn off "bubble texting" and just so me a direct list. This (with the font changes) would allow me to follow two weeks worth of text history with any one contact instead of having to remember my bubbles are on the right theirs on the left. (of course a good starting point would be to be able to reverse that). Can any of this be done easily?
As for Email, well It was an "add on" to my old TP2, but I would like a simple one-click way to "Mark all as read". I do not use GMail nor ever will. I own two domain names and my emails come through there. So the GMail client is out. The default client, as aforementioned, only shows like 7 emails in either a categorized today,yesterday,etc view, or a conversation threaded view. I just want a list: Line 1: Sender and Date, Line 2: Subject. And a simple button to click at the top that says: Mark All Read. I shouldn't have to check each email and then mark read, and with the categories if any emails are already read, the option defaults to mark unread so I have to check, mark unread, check, and mark read to get them all. I have like 6 different email accounts, with multiple aliases, and I'm on many newsletters and other such things, so I get quite a few emails daily, but I don't always need to read them. So far i've looked around and haven't found much in the way of email applications that will do what I want, which Mozilla Thunderbird (and my old TP2) do quite readily.
Mostly, I'm looking for ways to truly manipulate this device to the max, so that I can truly treat it like a portable computer. I used my old tp2 (while it was functioning) is a primary universal communications device, and I know I will do the same with the SIII, but to make my experience more enjoyable I need some starting points to determine if I can easily configure this thing to work my way. (Nah, i'm not a control freak, )
Thanks
Jaeden "Sifo Dyas" al'Raec Ruiner
There is a way to make everything smaller. There is a build.prop file. If you open it You should be able to find line like lcddensity (just look for lcd or density). Default is 240 but if You make it smaller everything will be smaller. Also You can have more icons on Your laincher when You're using better launcher. I'm using adw launcher ex and it has this option. Also the sms bubble thing. Take a look for "go sms pro" on android market. It has plenty of options
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Thanks for the pointers. So i need a different launcher, and the sms/email apps to solve my other problems. Great.
As for the "build.prop" file. Is that something that I will have to use the sdk and like rebuild the OS (basically, "root" the phone)?
Thanks
J"SD"a'RR
JaedenRuiner said:
Thanks for the pointers. So i need a different launcher, and the sms/email apps to solve my other problems. Great.
As for the "build.prop" file. Is that something that I will have to use the sdk and like rebuild the OS (basically, "root" the phone)?
Thanks
J"SD"a'RR
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Yeah root is required. If You have that You can just open it as normal *.txt file. Root Explorer is best for doing it
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JaedenRuiner said:
Thanks for the pointers. So i need a different launcher, and the sms/email apps to solve my other problems. Great.
As for the "build.prop" file. Is that something that I will have to use the sdk and like rebuild the OS (basically, "root" the phone)?
Thanks
J"SD"a'RR
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root would be required, but in most cases, you don't have to start from scratch to gain root, only if you flash a new or custom rom, so, no rebuilding the OS in most cases. the build.prop tweaks and custom launchers are a great start, but you might want to research the custom recovery for your device, so that you can make a nandroid backup, and restore in the event that you change something that causes issues that you can't fix..it's a good precaiution at any rate if you plan on doing a lot of poking around.,
jakuburban said:
Yeah root is required. If You have that You can just open it as normal *.txt file. Root Explorer is best for doing it
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yea, great. this is effing priceless. So I root the phone. I get a build.prop editor, I change the lcd density so I can get more info on screen and what happens. TouchWiz has stopped working.
Home doesn't work, nothing works. the phone is as useless as a paperclip as a paperweight. even better, the kies install still works only a 3rd the time (at best) so plugging it in via usb i can't even access the device. There appears to be no key combo command to tell the thing to use its internal flash recovery to restore factory defaults, and I can't access the build.prop file from my computer in order to change the file back to its original settings.
very helpful, i must say, winmo6.5 may have sucked, but it worked. this android crap really is NOT user friendly.
As a programmer I believe in "ultimate user customization". and yet I either have to suffer under google bird brained ideas of how things will work, or have a different phone. the very fact that I cannot just RESET TO FACTORY DEFAULT. albiet that woudl suck too, but so far it's all about this ODIN crap. why isn't the factory ROM on the phone itself? all i did was root it and edit one file. if that breaks android so easily, it really needs to be taken back to the drawing board.
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And now I've found the way to get to the factory restore...but it doesn't effing restore. cause I'm still getting the same error after the restore. at least my POS HTC tP2 when i RESTORED it, it flashed EVERYTHING back to factory defaults, including the system files I changed. I now have a brand new SIII that is worthless.
Jaeden "Sifo Dyas" al'Raec Ruiner.
Have a bit of patience with yourself mate. I too came from WM (Touch Diamond, Touch HD and then a HD2) and I'm a Windows developer by profession, so Android was completely alien to me. The Linux crowd are sorted but we've got a steep learning curve ahead of us
All you've told us about your current problem is that "nothing works". Can you tell us what actually happens when you turn the phone on? Is it booting okay and getting to where you'd expect to see a home screen?
JaedenRuiner said:
yea, great. this is effing priceless. So I root the phone. I get a build.prop editor, I change the lcd density so I can get more info on screen and what happens. TouchWiz has stopped working.
Home doesn't work, nothing works. the phone is as useless as a paperclip as a paperweight. even better, the kies install still works only a 3rd the time (at best) so plugging it in via usb i can't even access the device. There appears to be no key combo command to tell the thing to use its internal flash recovery to restore factory defaults, and I can't access the build.prop file from my computer in order to change the file back to its original settings.
very helpful, i must say, winmo6.5 may have sucked, but it worked. this android crap really is NOT user friendly.
As a programmer I believe in "ultimate user customization". and yet I either have to suffer under google bird brained ideas of how things will work, or have a different phone. the very fact that I cannot just RESET TO FACTORY DEFAULT. albiet that woudl suck too, but so far it's all about this ODIN crap. why isn't the factory ROM on the phone itself? all i did was root it and edit one file. if that breaks android so easily, it really needs to be taken back to the drawing board.
[EDIT]
And now I've found the way to get to the factory restore...but it doesn't effing restore. cause I'm still getting the same error after the restore. at least my POS HTC tP2 when i RESTORED it, it flashed EVERYTHING back to factory defaults, including the system files I changed. I now have a brand new SIII that is worthless.
Jaeden "Sifo Dyas" al'Raec Ruiner.
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How much did You change the value? Some of the apps(very few) don't support even a small change, and if You changed it like about 30+ then launchers may have problems.(in this case it has). You can copy files from & to phone using adb commands, even when You can't do anything. You can install e.g. ADW Launcher (program in my description does that) that should work and would bring Your phone back to life. There is also other way to repair it, but I hope You made a backup (this is "must to do" thing if You change sth. in ROM, especially when somebody is a noob and doesn't know a way how to repair it) , or just a backup of build.prop (50% chances that it will work).
Making factory reset won't help. Samsung Kies was always a crappy thing and never worked. Try odin to reflash ROM (if You didn't make a backup). And one important thing. Is it a custom ROM, do You have flashable package somewhere on the pc or phone? If so don't use ODIN yet. And send me this ROM. (is this *.zip file, not *.img?) There is a chance to restore build.prop.
PS. I understand You have usb debugging enabled?
Archer said:
Have a bit of patience with yourself mate. I too came from WM (Touch Diamond, Touch HD and then a HD2) and I'm a Windows developer by profession, so Android was completely alien to me. The Linux crowd are sorted but we've got a steep learning curve ahead of us
All you've told us about your current problem is that "nothing works". Can you tell us what actually happens when you turn the phone on? Is it booting okay and getting to where you'd expect to see a home screen?
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After i changed the lcd_density, it rebooted and came to my lock screen. everything was smaller as I hoped, so i began punching in my PIN. then a small dialog popped up saying TouchWiz UI had stopped. I hit okay, and figured the lcd density I had chosen must be incompatible. So I pressed OK, figuring I would jump back in and change it back. I typed in the PIN and hit OK. My home screen background game up, but the bottom App row (5 icons) wasn't there. another dialog about the TouchWiz UI popped up. I pressed OK. Then a dialog saying System UI had failed. after 4 or 5 dialogs I could no longer press the OK button, like it either wouldn't recognize my touch or was "disabled" or something. so I tried to reboot the phone (holding the power button in to get to the reboot menu). It rebooted with the exact same behavior. Knowing that the phone was rooted I let it reboot, and tried plugging it back into my PC.
Now, even before I did all the advanced changes, when plugged into the computer, the SPH-L710 node in explorer only comes up a quarter of the time, so now, i plugged in and unplugged until the node appeared to allow me to explore the phone, figuring it is "rooted" now so I should be able to get to the build.prop file some how and change it. No such luck.
I played with the button presses hoping to find some soft-key combination that would "restore factory defaults". Took some intuitive leaps, and remembered power+VolDn+home lead me to download mode. and that when rebooting the guide had told me to use power+volup+home to get to "recovery". so I tried that, which lead me to the "Stock Recovery Mode" screen. (rather different than the ClockworkMod Recovery I used to root the device).
At this point I selected the third option, "wipe data/restore factory settings". (yes, I had backed up the device before i performed all this so I'm not "worried" just annoyed). the phone when through the process and claimed the restore was complete so in the menu I selected to reboot and it popped back up asking all the same initial questions it had when it was first turned on. thinking "yea" i'd solved the issue, it booted in asking for my name and yadda, yadda, yadda, when suddenly the SAME TouchWiz UI error pops up. again. skipping over the initial configuration stuff, it got to the psuedo lock screen, saying slide to unlock, and i see 4 icons at the bottom (not 5) and again the TouchWiz UI and System UI errors pop up repeatedly. I can't select any of the icons at the bottom, and I am now without a phone untill I can simply alter 3 characters in a text file, which I can't get to.
I get the learning curve and all, but if this build.prop file is so critical, factory reset should reset it too. it apparently does not, and so until i can somehow alter that file to set the lcd density back to 320 i'm screwed.
J"SD"a'RR
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You can copy files from & to phone using adb commands, even when You can't do anything.
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well first step is finding ADB. I downloaded the SDK but couldn't find adb anywhere in the sdk tree. once I do find it, using it will be amusing to say the least.
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There is also other way to repair it, but I hope You made a backup
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Of course i backed up the phone with my data. But unless I get it to boot in the standard home screen with the applications I can't restore the data.
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or just a backup of build.prop (50% chances that it will work).
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what purpose would this serve. the build.prop editor I used made a backup, but again untill i can get into the phone I can't restore this backup.
jakuburban said:
Making factory reset won't help.
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which in mymind (as a developer) this is a bad design. any 'breaking' change should be repairable by a factory reset.
jakuburban said:
Samsung Kies was always a crappy thing and never worked.
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needed it for the usb drivers, that's all.
jakuburban said:
Try odin to reflash ROM (if You didn't make a backup).
And one important thing. Is it a custom ROM, do You have flashable package somewhere on the pc or phone?
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not custom rom or anything. I've had the phone for a week and was finally getting tired of not having certain things the way I wanted them. so I'd figured I'd dig around. I found many tutorials on the rooting of this phone and since they were all very similar I went with this one:
How to Root SPHL710
that part wen off just fine. seemed there was nothing for me to worry about. there was no ROM or crazy changes, just wanted to give myself root access. I then wanted to change LCD density, so I tried it and here I am.
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PS. I understand You have usb debugging enabled?
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it wasn't essential for what I was doing at the time. ODIN worked for the root process. *shrug* can't change it now, so I hope it isn't necessary.
J"SD"a''
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well first step is finding ADB. I downloaded the SDK but couldn't find adb anywhere in the sdk tree. once I do find it, using it will be amusing to say the least.
Of course i backed up the phone with my data. But unless I get it to boot in the standard home screen with the applications I can't restore the data.
what purpose would this serve. the build.prop editor I used made a backup, but again untill i can get into the phone I can't restore this backup.
which in mymind (as a developer) this is a bad design. any 'breaking' change should be repairable by a factory reset.
needed it for the usb drivers, that's all.
not custom rom or anything. I've had the phone for a week and was finally getting tired of not having certain things the way I wanted them. so I'd figured I'd dig around. I found many tutorials on the rooting of this phone and since they were all very similar I went with this one:
How to Root SPHL710
that part wen off just fine. seemed there was nothing for me to worry about. there was no ROM or crazy changes, just wanted to give myself root access. I then wanted to change LCD density, so I tried it and here I am.
it wasn't essential for what I was doing at the time. ODIN worked for the root process. *shrug* can't change it now, so I hope it isn't necessary.
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So I see that You made a backup with some app (Titanium Backup?), not CWM or (whatever You have) recovery. That's crappy. (My bad, I could have told You about that)
Enabling usb debugging now is impossible so I think, all that's left to reflash with Odin. All the hope was in adb controlling, which REQUIRES usb debugging.
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So I see that You made a backup with some app (Titanium Backup?), not CWM or (whatever You have) recovery. That's crappy. (My bad, I could have told You about that)
Enabling usb debugging now is impossible so I think, all that's left to reflash with Odin. All the hope was in adb controlling, which REQUIRES usb debugging.
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yea, I pretty much made that call yesterday, as all the ADB struff I tried didn't work. (but it was worth while for the learning process). I flashed with stock rom, and now i'm up and running. (guess I won't be messing with that setting again. ) as it is, i'm trying different launchers which has some of the features I want, and then I'll keep looking for different email/sms apps that shrink the info. (seriously on this size/res of screen, only seeing 8 emails is pathetic).
basically now trying the Apex Launcher, and then I'll do the ADW launcher. which ever is more to my liking i'll go pro. then handcent or gosms, k9 or others, or perhaps i'll even start writing my own clients that include font setting micro, .
thanks though, at least my first attempt to alter the phone is no different than my first attempt to write a program.
Cheers,
Jaeden "Sifo Dyas" al'Reac Ruiner
JaedenRuiner said:
yea, I pretty much made that call yesterday, as all the ADB struff I tried didn't work. (but it was worth while for the learning process). I flashed with stock rom, and now i'm up and running. (guess I won't be messing with that setting again. ) as it is, i'm trying different launchers which has some of the features I want, and then I'll keep looking for different email/sms apps that shrink the info. (seriously on this size/res of screen, only seeing 8 emails is pathetic).
basically now trying the Apex Launcher, and then I'll do the ADW launcher. which ever is more to my liking i'll go pro. then handcent or gosms, k9 or others, or perhaps i'll even start writing my own clients that include font setting micro, .
thanks though, at least my first attempt to alter the phone is no different than my first attempt to write a program.
Cheers,
Jaeden "Sifo Dyas" al'Reac Ruiner
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I'm glad to hear that Before messing with the system ALWAYS make a CWM backup, not some app backup (like titanuim backup).
PS. I use ADW Launcher EX. It's the best for me. Tried other but this one is the best.
If you've not been back to webOS in while, this is worth checking out. The devs at webOS internals have built a community edition of the Luna manger used by webOS.
Great new features. Best (in my view) are the new gestures allowing to switch between apps by swiping in from the edge of the screen. Card stacks can be put in tabs for faster switching too. Behaves like I imagine windows 8 will from the videos I've seen. Definitely worth checking out. Only word of warning is that you must be running the latest webOS version which can be a tricky update with android installed. Nothing too tough.. Something to play around with anyhow
You will also need to enable beta testing feeds in order to download the new Luna. This will require you to remove preware and reinstall
as well as modifying the settings in preware. There are several changes that need to be made but the webosnation forum has detailed instructions for making all the changes.
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good point. I didn't find enabling beta feeds too tough. Worse was updating webOS to 3.05. The ota update doesn't play nice with moboot on some devices. Kept failing. I used webOS doctor to update. That actually removes moboot (not android, just moboot) so I just used acme to reinstall moboot only.
vid of new features
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGG0yRYO5Q4&feature=related
looks nice, now get it out of beta I had trouble getting beta feed to work, I wasn't savy enough to get it right the first time so I went back to default preware lol
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If you've not been back to webOS in while, this is worth checking out. The devs at webOS internals have built a community edition of the Luna manger used by webOS.
Great new features. Best (in my view) are the new gestures allowing to switch between apps by swiping in from the edge of the screen. Card stacks can be put in tabs for faster switching too. Behaves like I imagine windows 8 will from the videos I've seen. Definitely worth checking out. Only word of warning is that you must be running the latest webOS version which can be a tricky update with android installed. Nothing too tough.. Something to play around with anyhow
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I have both beta and alpha feeds enabled but don't think I found the right file. When I do a search for Luna I get two files one dated a month ago, which doesn't seem to do anything and the other dated 2010 which obviously isn't it. What is the file name.
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eyeb said:
looks nice, now get it out of beta I had trouble getting beta feed to work, I wasn't savy enough to get it right the first time so I went back to default preware lol
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Not sure where the difficulty was for you, but a decent set of instructions are on the webOS internals wiki.
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds
You'll need a computer with a working novaterm installed. From there its just copy/paste. I uninstalled preware then used the novaterm connection to enable the feed and reinstall preware
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I have both beta and alpha feeds enabled but don't think I found the right file. When I do a search for Luna I get two files one dated a month ago, which doesn't seem to do anything and the other dated 2010 which obviously isn't it. What is the file name.
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the file is LunaCE. Make sure the feed is enabled using the instructions AND enabled in the preware manage feeds menu. When preware is updating feeds, do you see beta feeds being shown as the circle spins?
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the file is LunaCE. Make sure the feed is enabled using the instructions AND enabled in the preware manage feeds menu. When preware is updating feeds, do you see beta feeds being shown as the circle spins?
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Yes I see both beta and alpha the only feed I don't have enabled is the preware theme feed. Could it be in there? Also it was almost a year ago that I installed preware so could there be a new beta feed that I will get if I uninstall and reinstall preware?
UPDATE: ok I figured it out it was under beta-woce which has wasn't enabled. I. Hadn't noticed that feed yesterday but I have it now so thank you.
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i've installed the latest LunaCE 4.9.0, but nothing happened. should i restore my TP with doctor and try again?
kinwah.lai said:
i've installed the latest LunaCE 4.9.0, but nothing happened. should i restore my TP with doctor and try again?
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No , you must also install an app from preware called" Tweaks " .I made the same mistake myself. Open Tweaks then in its menu settings enable gestures etc .
I hope this helps .
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No , you must also install an app from preware called" Tweaks " .I made the same mistake myself. Open Tweaks then in its menu settings enable gestures etc .
I hope this helps .
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Thank you... IT's working after i install tweaks and enable those gestures.
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Thank you... IT's working after i install tweaks and enable those gestures.
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You're welcome glad you got it sorted, I'm still playing.
Ugghh, wishing I was able to get to a PC and install this. I never enabled the beta feeds before.
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i ve installed it , but adter restart
i recheck in preware, it's still not installed
anyone knows why ?
zanderman112 said:
Ugghh, wishing I was able to get to a PC and install this. I never enabled the beta feeds before.
Posted by Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
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You might be able to download a terminal emulator in preware, then follow the same instructions entering the commands there instead of with a pc.
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Ugghh, wishing I was able to get to a PC and install this. I never enabled the beta feeds before.
Posted by Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
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hdad is right. You can use xecutah/xserver/xterm to do this. Heres a short video showing it running:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDzhOylypv4
You can use this to run the commands. I tried it once before but wasnt very familiar with it so I went the webOS quick install route instead. But if you dont have a PC to work on, try this out.
The process to get the alpha/beta feeds installed though requires you to delete preware. Which, without a PC, is kinda tricky to get back. You can try Save/Restore. Its kind of like Titanium Backup for webOS. But I dont know if restoring it from there will effect the command changes you make. Or download Internalz Pro and email the Preware ipk to your device, I think you can use Internalz to handle package installs.
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hdad is right. You can use xecutah/xserver/xterm to do this. Heres a short video showing it running:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDzhOylypv4
You can use this to run the commands. I tried it once before but wasnt very familiar with it so I went the webOS quick install route instead. But if you dont have a PC to work on, try this out.
The process to get the alpha/beta feeds installed though requires you to delete preware. Which, without a PC, is kinda tricky to get back. You can try Save/Restore. Its kind of like Titanium Backup for webOS. But I dont know if restoring it from there will effect the command changes you make. Or download Internalz Pro and email the Preware ipk to your device, I think you can use Internalz to handle package installs.
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Yeah, its not the Xecutah part i'd have trouble with, it's the "enable alpha/beta feeds" part. I only have one PC that will work properly with novacom, and its my dads slow-as-heck Windows Vista laptop. I'd rather wait for this to exit beta than risk it(cause I don't trust the laptop)
Posted by Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
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Yeah, its not the Xecutah part i'd have trouble with, it's the "enable alpha/beta feeds" part. I only have one PC that will work properly with novacom, and its my dads slow-as-heck Windows Vista laptop. I'd rather wait for this to exit beta than risk it(cause I don't trust the laptop)
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Oh, so you're afraid of something going wrong and not being able to use the webOS doctor? I get that. I have a feeling it will be in beta for a while though. The devs just started this. I love it though.
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Oh, so you're afraid of something going wrong and not being able to use the webOS doctor? I get that. I have a feeling it will be in beta for a while though. The devs just started this. I love it though.
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That's exactly it. And its not like I use webOS enough right now to warrant it.
Posted by Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
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Yeah, its not the Xecutah part i'd have trouble with, it's the "enable alpha/beta feeds" part. I only have one PC that will work properly with novacom, and its my dads slow-as-heck Windows Vista laptop. I'd rather wait for this to exit beta than risk it(cause I don't trust the laptop)
Posted by Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
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What do you mean? The ENTIRE process is carried out on the TouchPad from within webOS using Xecutah... using the terminal with Novacom is an entirely different route of doing the same thing
The only thing you use the laptop for is to view the wiki site where the enable commands are... but ALL commands are typed in and executed ON THE TOUCHPAD and not connected in any way, shape or form to the computer....
Hope this helps and gets you on the way to enjoying the new tweaks
By the way... they have updated to LunaCE 4.90
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Im usually pretty good at figuring tthe smartwatches out. but how do you get to the different screens on the watch? whe i turn it on i get on screen with instagram .calculater etc. when i swipe i get to blank pages. ive accidenttly stumbled across other screens with other things on them but i have no idea what i did to get there! is there a manual for how to use this watch? or can someone give me some basic instructions please???
I suggest you hold the bottom button down till the task list comes up, then swipe left to kill OUI2.0 launcher. When you do that, you will get a screen where you can select from available launchers...pick the little house with the android in it. Things will be more familiar then.
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I suggest you hold the bottom button down till the task list comes up, then swipe left to kill OUI2.0 launcher. When you do that, you will get a screen where you can select from available launchers...pick the little house with the android in it. Things will be more familiar then.
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thanks i will give it a try. how do i load the playstore on here or also others? when ii hook the watch to the computer it says on th watch that its a drive but it dont show up on computer screen ..ive tried on windows 7 and 8.1 not visible. is there another way i can get the playstore on the watch? and also is there a gmail app on here? where is it? i found the reg. email app.
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I suggest you hold the bottom button down till the task list comes up, then swipe left to kill OUI2.0 launcher. When you do that, you will get a screen where you can select from available launchers...pick the little house with the android in it. Things will be more familiar then.
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when i hold the bottom button down long press all i get is a black screen that says "no recent apps"
That is because you haven't installed Google Apps yet, which is part of installing the Play Store. Check around XDA for installing Play Store. I haven't redone mine since I got it in early February, so I can't walk you through it.
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thanks i will give it a try. how do i load the playstore on here or also others? when ii hook the watch to the computer it says on th watch that its a drive but it dont show up on computer screen ..ive tried on windows 7 and 8.1 not visible. is there another way i can get the playstore on the watch? and also is there a gmail app on here? where is it? i found the reg. email app.
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Patch your watch. The patch installs Play Store.
Lokifish Marz said:
Patch your watch. The patch installs Play Store.
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i'm dumb. how do i patch my watch?
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That is because you haven't installed Google Apps yet, which is part of installing the Play Store. Check around XDA for installing Play Store. I haven't redone mine since I got it in early February, so I can't walk you through it.
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ive kinda check around and i found the apk for the play store and DL it to my computer, just dont know how to get it on the watch since the computer wont recognize the watch as a drive even though the watch says its set up as to be a drive.
also how do you find the gmail appp on the watch? is there one? i set up my google acct on the watch, but i cant find an app on the watch for gmail.
wmandel said:
i'm dumb. how do i patch my watch?
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[INFO] Everything Umeox x201 (TrueSmart, AW-414/420, AX-3, XTouch, etc..) sticky. Both methods are listed in "Kernels, Patches, MOD packs, ROMs" section of the sticky.
Sorry but have to be blunt. Using any x201 unpatched is extremely dumb. Unpatched, a hacker, malware and even malicious websites can remotely steal your info off the device an then brick it.
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[INFO] Everything Umeox x201 (TrueSmart, AW-414/420, AX-3, XTouch, etc..) sticky. Both methods are listed in "Kernels, Patches, MOD packs, ROMs" section of the sticky.
Sorry but have to be blunt. Using any x201 unpatched is extremely dumb. Unpatched, a hacker, malware and even malicious websites can remotely steal your info off the device an then brick it.
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went there. not being a developer, its all a little greek to me. i really am afraid to start screwing around with the watch without knowing what i am doing. i also dont know if i should get a sim card or not before i attempt anything. anyone caare to help me root or patch my mod and walk me thru it so i can get this watch up and running?
It doesn't get any simpler than this.
Most of the guides here for the x201 are done in such a way that you do exactly what the instructions say. Except for some rare cases, 99% of the time there are issues is because somebody skipped a step or did the steps out of order. The other part of the problem is people think "OMG new tech! It must be scary and complicated" when in fact the core concepts are the exact same as a computer. Install software, click button(s), wait, done.
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It doesn't get any simpler than this.
Most of the guides here for the x201 are done in such a way that you do exactly what the instructions say. Except for some rare cases, 99% of the time there are issues is because somebody skipped a step or did the steps out of order. The other part of the problem is people think "OMG new tech! It must be scary and complicated" when in fact the core concepts are the exact same as a computer. Install software, click button(s), wait, done.
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OK Well i got my yahoo mail set up. also got google play store on by emailing it to myself and then installing it. also found some apk's that i had from my zwatch that work on the omate: Aquamail, Easy uninstaller, Battery meter.
Two BIG questions: why does the watch have 2 sets of screens? the main screen set(which seems to be the default) with the blue background and the other set you get to by swiping down thats got a dark grey background with similar apps but has folders and more apps. i'd like to make that my default) but everytime you push the bottom button, it goes to the original blue default screen. same when you turn off and on the watch, it defaults to the blue set. how do you get rid of that blue default screen set. also is there a gmail app or do ii have to DL from play store? and is there a call log app? i cant find it if there is. THANKS!!
So you didn't install any patch. Not good. Almost every bit of info you just put on your watch (passwords, usernames, contacts, etc.) is now accessible by hackers, malware and malicious websites. Your watch can also be bricked remotely as well.
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So you didn't install any patch. Not good. Almost every bit of info you just put on your watch (passwords, usernames, contacts, etc.) is now accessible by hackers, malware and malicious websites. Your watch can also be bricked remotely as well.
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i dont know how to do the patch and im afraid if i screw it up i will brick the watch. can you explain the 2 sets of screens to me?
wmandel said:
i dont know how to do the patch and im afraid if i screw it up i will brick the watch. can you explain the 2 sets of screens to me?
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plus i cant get my computer to see the watch as a drive. i tried it with windows 7 and 8.1 and no luck. so i cant patch it unless i can get the computer to see the watch.
You don't need your computer to see it as a drive to patch it. Where did you read that you did?
Windows does not have to see any phone as a drive to recognize that it's there.
Getting your watch to be seen as a drive on your computer
Connect watch to PC
On the watch either a screen will pop up with a button saying "Turn on USB Storage" or "USB Connected" shows up in notifications
If you do not get the popup tap on "USB Connected" in notifications, the popup should now appear.
If none of these things happens the most likely cause it that the dock is defective.
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i dont know how to do the patch and im afraid if i screw it up i will brick the watch. can you explain the 2 sets of screens to me?
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There has been less than 5 reports of somebody actually bricking their watch and it wasn't from running either patch. The worst that happens is that you have to flash factory firmware to the watch. In the instances of people bricking their watch it has been because of flashing untested firmware that they got from somewhere other than myself.
The two sets of "screens" are launchers. You can either clear the defaults for the primary launcher or factory reset your watch.