Hey Guys,
I already use a Desire HD fully rooted and eng s-off. Now i bought a Flyer 16gb WiFi and after reading a couple of hours here I'm unsure if I should keep the device.
Is it possible to root the device?
Is it possible to install the HTC HC Leak which is made for the 32gb?
Is it possible to get back to stock?
Thanks for your help.
Regards
Daniel
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
I'm not really sure why it would be an issue with the German Flyers. HTC just announced that their bootloader unlocking tool officially supports the Flyer (see htcdev.com), so it should be even less of an issue. I have a US 16gb Flyer using the same stock HC 3.2 leak that people are using on 32gb Flyers (via Paul at MoDaCo). Have you found the thread at MoDaCo (sorry, can't post the link)? Someone might have reported running HC on a German Flyer there.
As far as getting back to stock, I hear there are a number of ways to do it. Someone has posted the shipped RUU's in the developer forum; I'm not sure if the German one is there. If you manage to get clockworkmod running, I believe you could just backup and restore.
Hi,
thanks for your reply.
Yes i already know this thread and as i've seen the instructions are definately working on the 32gb 3g but he's not sure if the 16gb will work fine.
And as i read a RUU for the 16gb is not available.
So in the end it's the same thing as on other phones. You have CWM and S-OFF after the procedure and can just install ROMs as you like, right?
Did you do everything like in Paul's thread? Or is there anything to keep in mind when flashing the 16gb?
Regards
Daniel
Dacoco said:
So in the end it's the same thing as on other phones. You have CWM and S-OFF after the procedure and can just install ROMs as you like, right?
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Yes, this seems to be the case, although I don't claim to know the details behind needing the new boot, radio, and hboot images. From what I understand, it's required for the Honeycomb ROM, and I think Paul has some details about this on his thread. You might want to ask there, or someone here can enlighten us. I'm not sure if this will limit the ROMs you can install, but if you want to install Honeycomb on a 16gb model, I can attest to them working.
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Did you do everything like in Paul's thread? Or is there anything to keep in mind when flashing the 16gb?
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I followed Paul's instructions exactly, no special considerations. I'm not sure what it is in the RUU that would limit use for other models, as you would think the partition tables would remain the same and you would simply image your ROM to that. But I have limited experience with this. Again, I can attest to the image files posted on Paul's site to be working for the US 16gb Wifi-only model and maintaining the same partitions as before the update.
But Pauls Guide includes everything right?
So i don't need to S-OFF with this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062184
Correct?
That's correct. Paul's guide includes everything. It leaves out instructions for using Revolutionary and HTC's unlock tool since the links to those websites include the instructions.
If you're S-ON, the step with Revolutionary (Step 7) will make your Flyer S-OFF. I hear some Flyers, particularly those shipped to Europe, were S-OFF from factory, so you wouldn't have to do that part if you're already S-OFF. You can check by just going into bootloader (shut down, reboot by holding volume down and the power button). The first line or something will say S-On or S-Off.
Okay thanks, i will try it next week.
Hi all,
I have rooted and S-OFFed my 16 GB Flyer using Revolutionary and I'm currently on 2.3.4.
I just noticed that there is an OTA Update available for 3.2.
Can i run this without an issue, or do I have to restore the flyer to stock to flash the OTA?
thanks,
i dont think it will run and you need to go to stock for ota update.
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i dont think it will run and you need to go to stock for ota update.
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thanks, I thought as much.
every time I read through the threads on returning to stock I just don't understand it fully.
The main thing I am having issue with is understand what the RUU is and how I know what one to use.
I have a UK 16GB Wifi only
as you are s-off and rooted you could upgrade to a custom 3.2 rom. i did it a couple of days ago and im happy with it. I also have a 16gb uk flyer.
madnlooney said:
as you are s-off and rooted you could upgrade to a custom 3.2 rom. i did it a couple of days ago and im happy with it. I also have a 16gb uk flyer.
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Which did you use?
could you provide a link?
thanks,
rickykemp said:
Which did you use?
could you provide a link?
thanks,
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sure
i use this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406851
i followed GLOBATRON's guide to upgrade to HC which is very straight forward
I think that is what is tripping me up.
So, all I have to do is download the RUU for the 16GB,
as I'm on GB with Revolutionary S-OFF and CWM i just run the executable?
does the Flyer need to be connected to the PC? does it have to be in a certain mode?
sorry for the questions, I've come from rooting on Galaxy S2 and this seems far more complicated.
rickykemp said:
I think that is what is tripping me up.
So, all I have to do is download the RUU for the 16GB,
as I'm on GB with Revolutionary S-OFF and CWM i just run the executable?
does the Flyer need to be connected to the PC? does it have to be in a certain mode?
sorry for the questions, I've come from rooting on Galaxy S2 and this seems far more complicated.
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need to be connected via usb, i put debugging mode on. run the.exe. it will reboot the flyer into fastboot and flash it. if you download the full one it will be stock with root and s-off if you want, you can then reboot into recovery and flash the custom rom
excellent, thanks for your help.
for the LeeDroid Rom, all that needs to be done after going through the above is to flash the zip in recovery?
thanks,
rickykemp said:
excellent, thanks for your help.
for the LeeDroid Rom, all that needs to be done after going through the above is to flash the zip in recovery?
thanks,
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i wiped data/factory rest, cache partition in and then flashed the Rom all in recovery. i do this out of habit when moving to a new rom
rickykemp said:
excellent, thanks for your help.
for the LeeDroid Rom, all that needs to be done after going through the above is to flash the zip in recovery?
thanks,
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Why don't you try out, and tell me about your experiences, so I can do the same
I just want to say thank you for guiding me through the questions I had.
I am now running the Leedroid ROM successfully!
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rickykemp said:
I just want to say thank you for guiding me through the questions I had.
I am now running the Leedroid ROM successfully!
+1
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glad all worked out ok. you might what to flash the LeeDrOiD Flyer HC V2.1.0 - 2.6.35.14 KERNEL it has some fixes in there too. just drop it on SD card and install .zip in recovery
Note from Globatron on HC OTA updates for S-OFF users.
It is possible, but not the simplest of options to upgrade with S-OFF.
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glad all worked out ok. you might what to flash the LeeDrOiD Flyer HC V2.1.0 - 2.6.35.14 KERNEL it has some fixes in there too. just drop it on SD card and install .zip in recovery
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So, if I interpret this post right, I should first install the 2.0 kernel thingie and then the 2.1 kernel thingie? (and the wifi-only kernel thingie as I do have the wifi only Flyer...)
Sweetpea8472 said:
So, if I interpret this post right, I should first install 2.0 kernel thingie and then the 2.1 kernel thingie? (and the wifi-only kernel thingie as I do have the wifi only Flyer...)
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Once you are upgraded to HC and on leedroid 2.0.0 rom then update to 2.1.0 kernel. The only time you need to grab anything to do with wifi flyer is the ruins to upgrade to HC
Did it
Now I need to remember the wifi username/password for the connection at work...
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Did it
Now I need to remember the wifi username/password for the connection at work...
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if you got a rooted phone which has them, with root explorer you can go to the file which stores all your wifi names and passwords in plain text. thats how i remember some of mine.
its in data/misc/wifi and the file is wpa_supplicant.conf
madnlooney said:
if you got a rooted phone which has them, with root explorer you can go to the file which stores all your wifi names and passwords in plain text. thats how i remember some of mine.
its in data/misc/wifi and the file is wpa_supplicant.conf
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Naturally, I was too late to write it down
Noob Question
I may be posting this in the wrong thread, but this is the closest match I could find, since I am a new member and unable to post in the development threads.
I would like to start off by thanking all the devs who have worked so hard on development issues with the Flyer, I intend on donating to them as soon as I am able, as I think everyone who has benefitted should. With that said, please forgive me if this has been covered. I have read pretty much all the threads/posts on these issues and used the search function, but I tend to get somewhat confused by the high volume of information provided and wanted some verification before I go down this road.
I have a BB Wi-Fi 16 GB Flyer (HTC_Flyer_P512_NA). I have run Revolutionary to get S-OFF, installed CWM, and rooted, but still on stock GB 2.3.4; I am now at Software Version 2.27.1540.32, HBOOT Version 6.10.1002, Kernel version 2.6.35.10. I would now like to give HC a try, but not lose root. I would like to start off with stock HC and have the ability to try out some of the custom ROMs. I would also like the ability to go back to GB, if desired.
Here is what I have gleaned so far:
1) I should be able to run Globatron’s method from post #1 of this thread ([Guide][Flyer]Honeycomb S-OFF, Easy Install, Recovery and Root. [US Wifi Added]), starting at step 2, for updating to honeycomb and retaining root.
2) After this, I should have the ability to flash custom HC ROMs.
3) From there, I should have the ability to go back to stock HC, keeping S-OFF and root.
4) Using the procedure in post #3 of this thread ([Guide][Flyer]Honeycomb S-OFF, Easy Install, Recovery and Root. [US Wifi Added]) will take me back to GB with S-OFF and CWM.
5) From GB with S-OFF and CWM, I can go completely back to stock GB with S-ON using this procedure: [Guide][Flyer+View] How to return to S-ON after running revolutionary].
If/where I am wrong about any of the above, could someone kindly point out where and how I am wrong? Assuming all of the above is correct, I have a couple of questions:
• Will I lose my data using Globatron’s method in post #1?
• Although Globatron strongly recommends method 1, I would like to use method 2 because it seems more straight-forward for a noob like me. Is this a bad idea?
Yes, I am a noob (BTW, I hate that word, but I do fall into that category), but I don’t exactly hate myself. Please don’t be hating on me either, even though I am sure that some, or all, of these questions have already been answered. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.
My s-off, rooted gingerbread flyer is asking for me to install a 47.22 meg update
And dangers to my device, s-off, revolutionary root and CWM?
Way to small to be honeycomb?
If you try to install the update, it will either fail or freeze on the bootscreen. At least, that is what happened with past OTA's on the Flyer. You don't want to install OTA's if you are rooted.
If you're rooted and want HC, just use globatron's method.
though so
so how do we get the update?
Yep to small
Download it and transfer it from the sd card. Some one could make a flashable zip.
I'm looking at the LeeDroid and coolexe ROM's
I have never ever done anything like that before
the Flyer came as it is
I have zero confidence in if I decide to go ahead with one of those roms or not.
you know where some collage courses "assume you have working knowledge of" ?
I'm about 10 courses behind every one else here.
Do you mean how hard todo it or if the ROM is good?
Easiness: On a scale of 1/10, maybe 2. Follow the guide at revolutionary.io.
ROMs: I've tried both. Remember, coolexe's is a Honeycomb ROM, you must follow globatrons easy honeycomb guide. LeeDroid's Gingerbread ROM is very good.
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I'm looking at the LeeDroid and coolexe ROM's
I have never ever done anything like that before
the Flyer came as it is
I have zero confidence in if I decide to go ahead with one of those roms or not.
you know where some collage courses "assume you have working knowledge of" ?
I'm about 10 courses behind every one else here.
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This might help a little
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425196
Just ordered one today and want to be prepared when it arrives. Looked through the dev section but wanted to get opinions from some people here.
It says it will be shipping with Gingerbread. What is the best way to root with Gingerbread? Would it be this link?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194709
In the end I would like to have Honeycomb running on my device rooted. Can I just run it like that and flash a honeycomb Rom? I saw a thread with people having to flash back to Gingerbread to get the official Honeycomb Rom. What would be the point or advantage to this? I am definitely not new to rooting and like to be there when the device first rolls out so I am there from the start but I am juming into this device pretty late to the party so there seems like a few different options to go with.
Appreciate any help with an overview and best direction to go. I am sure others who purchased the device today would find this useful as well.....
Thanks in advance guys...Looking forward to hanging with the view folks. Seems like a cool crowd!
That would be the best way.
If you want to go to Honeycomb and retain the root/S-OFF (google that if you dont know) then you must follow this guide to go to Honeycomb:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409306
If you want stock Honeycomb with NO ROOT you should NOT ROOT Gingerbread and just check for over the air updates.
AidenM said:
That would be the best way.
If you want to go to Honeycomb and retain the root/S-OFF (google that if you dont know) then you must follow this guide to go to Honeycomb:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409306
If you want stock Honeycomb with NO ROOT you should NOT ROOT Gingerbread and just check for over the air updates.
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Want s-off and honeycomb. Is there no rooted stock honeycomb ROM to flash in cwm after rooting in gingerbread? Also is the latest hboot that devices are shipping with the ones that can be rooted?
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Want s-off and honeycomb. Is there no rooted stock honeycomb ROM to flash in cwm after rooting in gingerbread? Also is the latest hboot that devices are shipping with the ones that can be rooted?
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OK follow that guide.
You can't just flash a HC ROM over Gingerbread, because the hboot versions are different. Once you have followed that guide, you can flash and Honeycomb ROM.
Also I don't thing that HTC updated the View's hboot. You can check by rebooting while holding the volume done key and you will see hboot version.
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OK follow that guide.
You can't just flash a HC ROM over Gingerbread, because the hboot versions are different. Once you have followed that guide, you can flash and Honeycomb ROM.
Also I don't thing that HTC updated the View's hboot. You can check by rebooting while holding the volume done key and you will see hboot version.
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Cool, thanks...that pretty much answered my question why you couldn't just flash a honeycomb ROM over a rooted gingerbread ROM.
I want Nil's Business ICS 4.03 so bad. I have a stock 2.3.4 Rezound and feel like I'm in the stone age. His thread has 378 pages of comments, some contradict others. Do I just follow what is on the first couple pages and that's all there is to it? or do I have to again try to get through the entire thread in order to install this rom that I want? If it was allowed I would send Nil's $20 for an up to date, step by step instruction guide for him to email to me or something. I'm a semi-bright guy, but I have no idea where or how to even start upgrading my Rezound. Can someone please assist me with taking my first baby steps to upgrade to Nil's Business Sense. Any real help would be apprecated. Thank You
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I want Nil's Business ICS 4.03 so bad. I have a stock 2.3.4 Rezound and feel like I'm in the stone age. His thread has 378 pages of comments, some contradict others. Do I just follow what is on the first couple pages and that's all there is to it? or do I have to again try to get through the entire thread in order to install this rom that I want? If it was allowed I would send Nil's $20 for an up to date, step by step instruction guide for him to email to me or something. I'm a semi-bright guy, but I have no idea where or how to even start upgrading my Rezound. Can someone please assist me with taking my first baby steps to upgrade to Nil's Business Sense. Any real help would be apprecated. Thank You
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Always good to read the entire thread but as you mentioned there will be contradictions since versions evolve and fix some earlier problems.
If you read through the first 3 posts you should be good to go.
Make sure you know the state of your phone but the 3 most important things are: 1) Have you unlocked the bootloader and have a custom recovery like AmonRa, 2) are you S-ON or S-OFF and 3) what firmware are you on GB or ICS (You are now GB).
As long as you are unlocked bootloader the options to install for S-on/off and firmware are in the installer
Have fun
Thank you NilsP
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Always good to read the entire thread but as you mentioned there will be contradictions since versions evolve and fix some earlier problems.
If you read through the first 3 posts you should be good to go.
Make sure you know the state of your phone but the 3 most important things are: 1) Have you unlocked the bootloader and have a custom recovery like AmonRa, 2) are you S-ON or S-OFF and 3) what firmware are you on GB or ICS (You are now GB).
As long as you are unlocked bootloader the options to install for S-on/off and firmware are in the installer
Have fun
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Wow Nills, your like a legend and you answered me directly. I am overwhelmed, thrilled and honored that you did. Thank you
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Wow Nills, your like a legend and you answered me directly. I am overwhelmed, thrilled and honored that you did. Thank you
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Not that exciting. I just like to help.