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What are the benefits of upgrading a device to Ice Cream Sandwich?
Ice Cream Sandwich brings an entirely new look and feel to Android. It has a redesigned user interface with improved multi-tasking, notifications, Wi-Fi hotspot, NFC support and a full web browsing experience.
NFC support, and I'm positive that's part of the OS. Theres no NFC unless carriers decide to embed one into the SIM card.
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"We’re working to deliver the ICS upgrade for DROID RAZR and Motorola RAZR in the first half of 2012 (this may vary slightly by market)"
Not too chuffed about that bit! So it could be June or later.
I say next week.
Galaxy nexus-4.0.3.
Xoom wifi- 4.0.3.
Perhaps the razr 4.0.3.
^Somehow, I don't think that's likely.
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^Somehow, I don't think that's likely.
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Oke,
then only the Galaxy nexus and the xoom.
I have those two also
and the razr.
Yes I known,phonegrazy
Would be much too fast for Motorola
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Moto doesn't care about the customers like HTC .. HTC says unlock bootloaders they listen.. Motto no they don't care.. Ics doubt it will be door a while they always lie
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Moto doesn't care about the customers like HTC .. HTC says unlock bootloaders they listen.. Motto no they don't care.. Ics doubt it will be door a while they always lie
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Motorola is pretty quick with updates, problem is that stance on bootloaders...Sad really, considering how great their hardware is.
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I hope that ICS come soon, and if it not i really dont mind as long as Customs ROM exist
Need to have a NFC chip...Razr doesn't as far as I know
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Need to have a NFC chip...Razr doesn't as far as I know
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by the time when all NFC enabled devices can ACTUALLY be used without all those carrier/google bs because of payment infrastructures, I believe an NFC in micro-sd card will long be available. so Razr will have NFC in its ext sd card.
Technology moves much faster than bureaucracies.
I don't really care much for NFC nor ICS.. I just want the damn Bootloader unlocked so we can start playing around with cooked and custom ROMs!
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by the time when all NFC enabled devices can ACTUALLY be used without all those carrier/google bs because of payment infrastructures, I believe an NFC in micro-sd card will long be available. so Razr will have NFC in its ext sd card.
Technology moves much faster than bureaucracies.
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NFC on ext sdcard..
is that possible?
since... the hardware for nfc.... is needed...
Sorry if I wasn't clear. NFC chip on SD card itself.
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NFC on ext sdcard..
is that possible?
since... the hardware for nfc.... is needed...
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NFC on ext sdcard..
is that possible?
since... the hardware for nfc.... is needed...
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NFC will be on SIM cards too. The only use I'd personally have for it is paying for transit, since I use an NFC card for it now.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear. NFC chip on SD card itself.
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owh i c...
sweet..
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NFC will be on SIM cards too. The only use I'd personally have for it is paying for transit, since I use an NFC card for it now.
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in sim too eh?
cool
cant wait for the next development
just FYI moneto.me has that NFC microSD card available - so it exist already
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NFC support, and I'm positive that's part of the OS. Theres no NFC unless carriers decide to embed one into the SIM card.
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Uh....NFC support must be embedded in the back cover of the phone or in the battery. The SIM card has nothing to do with it. Just to clear that up!
Pardon my ignorance, but what is NFC? In Malaysia it's a government funded cooperation meant to research and breed cattle, named National Feedlot Cooperation..
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Not trying to bait here just curious about what it takes if the CM team makes CM9... What will it take to run on the Atrix given the CM7 development that has taken place. What effect does not having a moto ics kernel have on the process?
Just curious...
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No one?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19379587&postcount=7
Ouch! I guess that sells me... from here on out I am Nexus all the time! Thanks for the info...
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Call me stupid, but isn't this why the "extract-files.sh" file exists?
EDIT: I just downloaded and extracted the files from the "self extracting files" from http://code.google.com/android/nexus/drivers.html for the Nexus S and they're the same ones that are pulled from the phone in "extract-files.sh" for the Nexus S. This means that there are no proprietary binaries that we do not have access to already. Porting shouldn't be any harder than usual.
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Call me stupid, but isn't this why the "extract-files.sh" file exists?
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The extract will take binaries based on gingerbread and more importantly the 2.6 kernel series not the 3.0 series that ICS is based on. So in short the extract will not give ICS binaries.
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The extract will take binaries based on gingerbread and more importantly the 2.6 kernel series not the 3.0 series that ICS is based on. So in short the extract will not give ICS binaries.
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Ahh, okay.
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Ouch! I guess that sells me... from here on out I am Nexus all the time! Thanks for the info...
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IDK... Nexus phones don't use Micro SD, which for me is a HUGE TURNOFF.
I just don't understand why Nexus doesn't do Micro SD? I just don't see how its that much or a security issue...
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IDK... Nexus phones don't use Micro SD, which for me is a HUGE TURNOFF.
I just don't understand why Nexus doesn't do Micro SD? I just don't see how its that much or a security issue...
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So we are pushed into cloud storage by Google I suppose.
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So we are pushed into cloud storage by Google I suppose.
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Until carriers (besides Sprint) become friendlier with bandwidth caps, iCloud will NEVER be a solution for me. I'm not gonna plan my day around WiFi either, and I keep coming close enough to my monthly limit as it is. That's why Micro SD is critical for me.
If AT&T had a true unlimited data plan like Sprint, I'd drop the extra money on it without having to worry about penalty fees or throttling...
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Until carriers (besides Sprint) become friendlier with bandwidth caps, iCloud will NEVER be a solution for me. I'm not gonna plan my day around WiFi either, and I keep coming close enough to my monthly limit as it is. That's why Micro SD is critical for me.
If AT&T had a true unlimited data plan like Sprint, I'd drop the extra money on it without having to worry about penalty fees or throttling...
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True dat... I guess I am lucky to have been grandfathered into AT&T's unlimited... not sure what I would do if that wasn't the case!
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I just found out that the devices which have blue tooth version 4.0 already are capable of doing nfc
They come with nfc enabled so, the motorola RAZR has the nfc feature. It has the hardware for it but it doesn't have the software for it currently so I was thinking if someone could help get that software which is required for nfc!!
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The Droid Razr doesn't have an NFC Chip.
Bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 devices can talk to nfc devices. Whether we'll be able to use Bluetooth devices like the razr AS nfc devices is another matter. We would need software such as Android beam to support this I imagine.
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i would of thought that if this phone was capable. Motorola in all their might would of advertised it surely.
Anyhow. NFC is not coming to lincolnshire any time soon! lol
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Anyhow. NFC is not coming to lincolnshire any time soon! lol
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agreed, some of the shops here still use dial up for their chip and pin machines!
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Indeed!!! Haha and many places still dont even use chip and pin.
They use something called "cash"
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I believe that to use NFC (although I'm not sure if it is in there or not) you need a special antenna. Generally, it's attached to the battery. Since our battery isn't removable, that makes it kind of difficult.
It is kind of like that. On the back of my nexus s is 2 connectors which then come in contact with some kind of pad on the battery cover.
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Put the bootloader thing aside (may never be resolved). I'm wondering what we'll all b#&ch about after our phones are complete with 4.0.4.... It can't be Jelly Bean, 'cause by the time that starts rolling out to "Legacy" devices, we'll all probably have upgraded to new phones... What's it gonna be guys &gals?
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I am just waiting for kholk and eternity team to fix the kexec and then I really don't care about what Motorola wants to do...and from rumours stated the kexec with both cores working will be awesome!
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As long as my LTE reception doesn't completely suck like it does now and I don't drop data all of the time like I do with 2.3.6, I'll be sound as a pound with 4.0.4
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As long as my LTE reception doesn't completely suck like it does now and I don't drop data all of the time like I do with 2.3.6, I'll be sound as a pound with 4.0.4
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You too??? Dang
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As long as my LTE reception doesn't completely suck like it does now and I don't drop data all of the time like I do with 2.3.6, I'll be sound as a pound with 4.0.4
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You too??? Dang
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I have never had data drops on my razr. I am very heavy user. I use from 5GB to 50gb a month. Thats really strange that people are experiencing that.
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I have never had data drops on my razr. I am very heavy user. I use from 5GB to 50gb a month. Thats really strange that people are experiencing that.
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Been going through it for 3 days now. I had to switch to CDMA only to get to stop.
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I am not the only one who thinks that Google should merge android into moto...
http://www.fastcompany.com/3001760/what-if-google-allowed-android-and-motorola-share-secrets
You do understand that if android goes that way you can kiss your custom ROMs goodbye. Not only that but also your options for android devices would shrink because the open handset alliance would quickly fall apart. Why not just buy an apple if you want a closed off system? These thoughts show exactly how you do not understand what open source is and why Google is doing what its doing.
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You do understand that if android goes that way you can kiss your custom ROMs goodbye. Not only that but also your options for android devices would shrink because the open handset alliance would quickly fall apart. Why not just buy an apple if you want a closed off system? These thoughts show exactly how you do not understand what open source is and why Google is doing what its doing.
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Sounds fine to me. I would give up custom roms...
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Well then it sounds like you'd enjoy an iPhone. Why would you want Android like that? I'm interested to hear your response on this question.
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Well then it sounds like you'd enjoy an iPhone. Why would you want Android like that? I'm interested to hear your response on this question.
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Faster updates and all. We can then all have a uniform android experience and not this hap hazard one we now have. Just to turn on wifi is different in sense and touchwiz.... they should compete on quality and look of the phone and not software as the hardware and software should all be the same. And i would never buy a iphone no widgets.
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Faster updates and all. We can then all have a uniform android experience and not this hap hazard one we now have. Just to turn on wifi is different in sense and touchwiz.... they should compete on quality and look of the phone and not software as the hardware and software should all be the same. And i would never buy a iphone no widgets.
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Why does this have to be so either/or? Samsung has no intention of suckling from the android teet forever--samba/tizen? Its open now, but won't stay open forever---look at how reluctant they are to release their hardware libraries... hundreds of thousands of people 'superbricked' their (insert qualifying samsung device here)--and though a simple fix would have been to release their emmc firmware to the xda community, and we'd all have functioning (instead of limping) quality samsung mobile warez....i', calling events like the MMC_CAP_ERASE bug instancas of 'planned hyper-obsolescense'... i fell to it too: gTab 7.7? Superbricked and in a coma on my shelf--- why wouod i buy a new one when the gNote 10.1 just came out.
Motorola could set the bar so high, that tthey force companies to stop doing that, or force them onto their own ecosystems. Motorola has liscenced the AMOLED patent from samsung, so we could see a motorola droid or nexus tablet sporting the same features as the Note 10.1 but with Amoled--and hd--and a kevlar back...
I personally am excited about ubuntu mobile and boot to gecko.
Motorola should be Android's greatest champion, but there's no reason why google would ever close-source android just to make motorola its flagship manufacturer. I think we're going to see an incredible rest of the decade---as long as isreal doesnt get nuked---then all bets are off.
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Apparently Mozilla is working on their own smartphone OS - aptly named - Firefox OS, which they claim to be an attempt at a truly open mobile OS. I personally haven't heard much about Ubuntu mobile, but I'd be willing to move over to any other Linux based OS. Fragmentation is an issue, but that's just a side-effect of having an open operating system. Personally I think Android is managing this issue well -- but then again I'm only speaking from the perspective of a RAZR owner.
Fragmentation is not an ssue with open source deployment, its a problem because OEMs are so corporate, so profit/competition-driven, that they cant even fathom a gnu-gpl development scenario---"wait, R&D investment you cant monetize???" Its just beyond them.
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We can have a nexus certified device that has all the gapps. Then enter open source but reduced version no gapps no movie streams no play mArkey no gmail and cant have latest update for two years
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We can have a nexus certified device that has all the gapps. Then enter open source but reduced version no gapps no movie streams no play mArkey no gmail and cant have latest update for two years
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Haha you gotta be kidding. Google loves to make money and by doing what your saying they would lose a lot of money. Just accept the fact that you can't have the latest os without buying a new phone. Even iOS is like that every new revision has new features that work on the latest iPhone and not or only partially work on previous I phones.
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Haha you gotta be kidding. Google loves to make money and by doing what your saying they would lose a lot of money. Just accept the fact that you can't have the latest os without buying a new phone. Even iOS is like that every new revision has new features that work on the latest iPhone and not or only partially work on previous I phones.
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Ok but its been 4 months and in the us no phone from launch date has shipped with jb yet... puttyful
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There are phones that have jb on them? Just because our phone doesn't have it officially doesn't mean it isn't out. why does it even matter if we have the latest OS that isn't even very different on an old phone. It's not like we are stuck on GB.
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There are phones that have jb on them? Just because our phone doesn't have it officially doesn't mean it isn't out. why does it even matter if we have the latest OS that isn't even very different on an old phone. It's not like we are stuck on GB.
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It matters to me BIG time. Never show weakness by having an outdated os. People on the latest os will glare and snicker at those who dont. Its a dog eat dog world. Its like my razr ics is a pcjr without it. I think we need support groups and we should sue Google and the carriers over updates.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/13/htc-droid-dna-verizon/
WOW... nice phone! Is it a world phone? I saw GSM on the last paragraph, hoping someone can clarify whether this would work on t mobil
Edit: according to this article it is using the quad core pro chip... I read elsewhere it was using the dual core s4 processor. But I agree esp. If using the quad core chip this looks pretty solid
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meh. I'll be waiting for something with a removable battery and micro SD. I just can't be bothered to spend that kind of cash and get something that could get a pooched battery, then what? Besides, nothing beats having a fresh battery. I've been through 4 already with my amaze, which is inconvenient, so what do you do with one that's out of warranty and you get battery issues?
1080p screen 5" screen + HTC phone + LTE + 2020 mAh non replaceable battery = a phone that will barely get you through your work day, if even that.
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1080p screen 5" screen + HTC phone + LTE + 2020 mAh non replaceable battery = a phone that will barely get you through your work day, if even that.
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Would be a game changer if it were a Nexus though.
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Would be a game changer if it were a Nexus though.
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Truly a game changer with a battery you can replace and the ability to add memory. No micro SD / no removable battery = Sad phone
yo2boy said:
Would be a game changer if it were a Nexus though.
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The lack of an SD card slot is really the only downside of the new Nexus 4. Truly a tragedy...
Whats up with these companies removing the sd card slot wth
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Whats up with these companies removing the sd card slot wth
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Google doesn't like SD cards, so I guess other Android OEMs are following too. Read this: http://androidcommunity.com/googles...s-lack-of-sd-cards-in-nexus-devices-20121030/
I'm happy to hear that the Nexus 4 DOES support USB OTG so I can always plug in my external hard drive or flash drive to the phone.
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Whats up with these companies removing the sd card slot wth
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HTC is doing it because they think people care more about how thin the phone is. That's y they got rid of sd card slots and removable batteries
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Google doesn't like SD cards, so I guess other Android OEMs are following too. Read this: http://androidcommunity.com/googles...s-lack-of-sd-cards-in-nexus-devices-20121030/
I'm happy to hear that the Nexus 4 DOES support USB OTG so I can always plug in my external hard drive or flash drive to the phone.
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I added this comment there. I'm baffled by that reasoning...
"If someone can figure out how to connect a Nexus device to their PC using a USB, then I'm fairly certain they wouldn't not suddenly become overwhelmed by this "fandangled device" called an external SD card.
They weren't too complicated for people to use in their cameras, and they even had them in their PCs.
You know what's more complicated? Pairing a Bluetooth device, or NFC and yet these technologies remain persistent....
An SD card, you simply pop it in the slot, and if they don't know it's there, then they're not going to lose sleep over it. No settings pop ups, no panic."
It's a cop out to not include them. And there is more motivation to pay for the higher memory device. It's too bad and on occasion I'm sure the normal user doesn't know which one it is saved to... Why not have the slot, but not include a card. That way those who find the concept 'complicated' don't have to bother with purchasing one and others can... Oh well Google, you're crazy!
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no kidding. Just briefly looking up the crapple 5, going from 16 to 32 costs you $100, and from 32 to 64 another $100. You can get a 32gig micro sd for $30, there goes their 'profit'.
All it takes is one manufacturer to see what the rest are doing, and offer the feature that people demand, and sell a ton of devices.
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no kidding. Just briefly looking up the crapple 5, going from 16 to 32 costs you $100, and from 32 to 64 another $100. You can get a 32gig micro sd for $30, there goes their 'profit'.
All it takes is one manufacturer to see what the rest are doing, and offer the feature that people demand, and sell a ton of devices.
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Like Samsung? Galaxy s iii/note 2 anyone? =)
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Like Samsung? Galaxy s iii/note 2 anyone? =)
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Thank you!
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