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I used to work with WM 5 & 6 phones, had plenty of them and enjoyed them all until I discovered the HTC Magic. What a giant leap forward!! Especially when using Google Apps as we do. I am however a bit reluctant to root the magic as it doesn’t seem like a walk in the park. I really miss being able to backup SMS messages and all the other apps that only run on rooted devices.
So my question is if the HERO is a rooted device or not.
Does anybody have an answer to this question? I’m so tempted to preorder one
the answer to the question should be probably yes seing how people have the system dump files. so its just a matter of time
In the meantime, you can back up SMS and MMS with GBackup from Market - backs up to Gmail automatically - can also back up call log and pics...
Dayzz
Apologies for my ignorance but what does rooting the phone mean? I've just come from using a Windows mobile phone - which I have been using since the original SPV!
Root access comes from Unix - Linux operating system speak (which is what Android runs on). Root basically means administrator privileges. So if you can run under root access then you have privileges to change/modify/do anything.
In the phone out of the box you do not have root to protect the phone from modifications that could brick it. People who do modifications under root access need to either know what they are doing, or follow a script from someone who knows what they are doing.
Ofcourse it's not 'rooted' when you unpack it from the box.
Eventually I'll guess the Hero will be rooted, but when and how... we'll just have to wait.
dipje said:
Ofcourse it's not 'rooted' when you unpack it from the box.
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Easy son... He asked, I provided.
barryallott said:
Easy son... He asked, I provided.
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wasn't ment to be offensive in any way ...
barryallott said:
Root access comes from Unix - Linux operating system speak (which is what Android runs on). Root basically means administrator privileges. So if you can run under root access then you have privileges to change/modify/do anything.
In the phone out of the box you do not have root to protect the phone from modifications that could brick it. People who do modifications under root access need to either know what they are doing, or follow a script from someone who knows what they are doing.
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But as in Unix /Linux you use an ordinary login for normal day to operations and su to to use root. You have to consciously change your privelidges which is safer!!
Simon
Lots of useful info on allsorts, including rooting and other hacks here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542452
Daisy xx
Hi, I would like to have root access to my phone, but not necessarily with a custom ROM. I would also prefer to not change my bootloader.
What exactly is rooting? Is it replacing the whole system image with an image that gives the user root access? Or is it just like enabling sudo for the user? Or is a smaller part replaced? (I am somewhat familiar with electronics, computers and Linux, but I find the Android hacking a bit confusing )
Also, is it possible to run stock Android, only with root access? Will the access be lost when upgrading?
c3c0l0n said:
Hi, I would like to have root access to my phone, but not necessarily with a custom ROM.
DEV section rooting post /
What exactly is rooting?
root is the user account in Linux with all privileges. The root user can edit anything on the system. For safety reasons, users do not have all those privileges. When you root your phone, you will gain write access to areas of the phone you couldn't previously access and are allowed to run more commands in the terminal. Because applications do not get a lot of privileges, some of them require you to root the device in order for them to function properly (or fully).
Also, is it possible to run stock Android, only with root access?
Yes and Yes lost root on upgrade usually .
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Thank you. How is the rooting performed? Is only an ACL modified, or is a more fundamental part of the system changed (like the kernel, bootloader etc)?
I know that a custom ROM might be unstable/experimental, but does the same apply for rooting, or is the modification so small that one could expect the exact same stability as in the stock ROM?
c3c0l0n said:
Thank you. How is the rooting performed? Is only an ACL modified, or is a more fundamental part of the system changed (like the kernel, bootloader etc)?
I know that a custom ROM might be unstable/experimental, but does the same apply for rooting, or is the modification so small that one could expect the exact same stability as in the stock ROM?
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All your questions are explained in detail in the Development section
Sorry, I did not find it. However, I read this without getting smarter. This video suggests that rooting is a process that does something with your phone without replacing everything. An exact list of what the rooting tools do would be perfect
Not all tools do the same thing. To get a specific answer, you will have to ask the person that came up with whatever rooting tool you are referring to. Some phones take more to root than others.
Sony Tablet S 3.2.1 (release2) Kernal Version: 2.6.3.6 [email protected] #1 Build number THMASOO124OOO can i root this? if so can you point me to the right direction? not tell me how to do it but where i can find a tutorial because i don't wanna mess it up you know thanks much appreciated
hey
as far as I know, only build #10 devices are not root able
if you want to root your tablet, enable USB-Debugging in your options,
after you have done that, go to this post, install the usb drivers, if you want to test if adb is working, start the batch file, which is located in the folder of the drivers, than type in the batch file, "adb devices", without" ", if it found devices, proceed to the next step
got to this post, download the AoI tool by condi, extract the tool, start the tool
type in "1" than press enter, wait till it's finished, exit.
congrats your tablet is rooted
I would recommend you, to also install the rescue-backdoor.
I hope that I could help you with my confusing tutorial
cheers
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hey
as far as I know, only build #10 devices are not root able
if you want to root your tablet, enable USB-Debugging in your options,
after you have done that, go to this post, install the usb drivers, if you want to test if adb is working, start the batch file, which is located in the folder of the drivers, than type in the batch file, "adb devices", without" ", if it found devices, proceed to the next step
got to this post, download the AoI tool by condi, extract the tool, start the tool
type in "1" than press enter, wait till it's finished, exit.
congrats your tablet is rooted
I would recommend you, to also install the rescue-backdoor.
I hope that I could help you with my confusing tutorial
cheers
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k i understand all this but that last part when you said install resuce backdoor, do you mean after i rooted? correct? awesome deal mane i appreciate your time and effort
Update: also i googled this but i dont' quite understand the concept of rooting, i know its admin previlages but does that mean i could run apps that aren't for the tablet S in market like say ORDER AND CHOAS MMO ? ? ?
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k i understand all this but that last part when you said install resuce backdoor, do you mean after i rooted? correct? awesome deal mane i appreciate your time and effort
Update: also i googled this but i dont' quite understand the concept of rooting, i know its admin previlages but does that mean i could run apps that aren't for the tablet S in market like say ORDER AND CHOAS MMO ? ? ?
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yes u can only do install rescue backdoor after the tab is rooted.
rooting in android means gaining root access. Market aka PlayShop is a place where all androids apps/games are hosted. Weather u can play on Sony Tab or other android devices are purely base on the Android version (eg: 2.3.5(GB), 3.2.1(HC), 4.0(ICS) ).
if u ever come across apps like Titanium Backup, CPU Tuner... u will need root previlages to run it because it is meddling with the Android system settings which default the tab is mainly run as a normal user. Also, with rooted android devices, u can change the wifi binary to support adhoc wifi which again, by default it is not enabled. It seems that ICS does support it thou base on the adhoc wifi functions i see.
hope this info gives u a better picture about android rooting. for apple devices u jailbreak to install free apps or freely distributed IPA files.
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yes u can only do install rescue backdoor after the tab is rooted.
rooting in android means gaining root access. Market aka PlayShop is a place where all androids apps/games are hosted. Weather u can play on Sony Tab or other android devices are purely base on the Android version (eg: 2.3.5(GB), 3.2.1(HC), 4.0(ICS) ).
if u ever come across apps like Titanium Backup, CPU Tuner... u will need root previlages to run it because it is meddling with the Android system settings which default the tab is mainly run as a normal user. Also, with rooted android devices, u can change the wifi binary to support adhoc wifi which again, by default it is not enabled. It seems that ICS does support it thou base on the adhoc wifi functions i see.
hope this info gives u a better picture about android rooting. for apple devices u jailbreak to install free apps or freely distributed IPA files.
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oh so same general idea DUDE AWESOME THANKS SO MUCH i really appreciate your time mane i have decided to take the risk after more reading on rooting thanks so much i really appreciate this i can't wait!
biggyhead said:
oh so same general idea DUDE AWESOME THANKS SO MUCH i really appreciate your time mane i have decided to take the risk after more reading on rooting thanks so much i really appreciate this i can't wait!
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np.. we should all thank Condi and bunch for their efforts to make root possible on sony tab...
have fun!
zerod78 said:
np.. we should all thank Condi and bunch for their efforts to make root possible on sony tab...
have fun!
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ran into a problem i did everything but it says error can't find path, says like mtp something i don't have it?
UPDATE: that one doesn't work with the other adb you gota use the one given by him http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488822 or you get an error so second part doesn't work , which in term scared the **** OUT OF ME when the program turned red but it works now with dj's style ROOTED WHOOO i think iono how to tell xD
biggyhead said:
does that mean i could run apps that aren't for the tablet S in market like say ORDER AND CHOAS MMO ? ? ?
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Absolutely my good man!
go to this thread to change you build.prop (makes it/the market think it's a different device)
I've been known to pull out my sony tab at work on lunch, crank the wifi hot spot on my phone and smash out a few minutes of questing lol It's truly the best
biggyhead said:
Sony Tablet S 3.2.1 (release2) Kernal Version: 2.6.3.6 [email protected] #1 Build number THMASOO124OOO can i root this? if so can you point me to the right direction? not tell me how to do it but where i can find a tutorial because i don't wanna mess it up you know thanks much appreciated
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I rooted my Sony s and the only # that change from urs r the THMAS#
DreadPirateDan said:
Absolutely my good man!
go to this thread to change you build.prop (makes it/the market think it's a different device)
I've been known to pull out my sony tab at work on lunch, crank the wifi hot spot on my phone and smash out a few minutes of questing lol It's truly the best
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im so glad i read this sick wit it!!!
Alright, so I now have a new Samsung Galaxy S2 from Bell (GT-I9100M) and I want to play around with it. However, I'm pretty anal about getting the phone back to it's original state, just in case I'd like to.
I want to be able to backup everything from the phone in its current state so that I can restore it.
I'm currently getting the source for android and I'll be compiling zergrush from source in order to gain root access to the phone.
1st: Can this be undone?
2nd: Once you root your phone, does everything run as root? (that would be aweful)
3rd: Is root + Rom Manager + Titanium Backup all I really need to install custom roms easily? Or am I going to have to use Heimdall and such (I'm on Linux so no Odin for me unless I pop up a VM).
Correct my assumptions if I'm wrong:
It seems like zergrush exploits a bug that will give /data/local/tmp/sh uid of root. Is that how root access works? just a copy of the shell with root uid in that path. So if I delete this file, it unroots my phone?
If I zergrush my phone, gain access, use titanium backup to backup everything to the SD card or on my PC then I can use rom manager to get cyanogenmod and flash it straight through the phone's app. In case I want to revert to my good old stock rom and everything unrooted, I use rom manager to reflash the backup I made and then how do I revert what was done by zergrush?
Cheers!
Lewis
Is anyone familiar with what I'm asking?
as far i know zergrush was till 2.3.4 doesnt wored on 2.3.5 and 2.3.6 so not sure if it works on ICS.
try to search if the stock firmware is available for your phone model, unless you doesnt care for that in that case i assume ur phone is just a i9100 so you can flash a stock rom later using odin
now to gain root simplest method is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
My phone is running 2.3.3 so zergrush should work.
As for the stock firmware, I'd want to extract it from my phone so that I get the exact same version when I revert.
the CF root method isn't suitable for me because I can't backup my kernel before flashing this.
I also can't use Odin as I am running linux. I can use a VM or Heimdall but it seems like zergrush is the best method for my situation. I already have the android sdk installed. My current issue is compiling zergrush from source... my environment doesn't seem to be completely setup correctly.
Why are you compiling it yourself? You can get a binary from the source, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296916
There was a similar request a while back for what you're trying to accomplish, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409484
I compiled from source cause I like to know exactly what I'm running on the phone . Not such an issue when it's in user-space but when it comes to granting root access to anything...
Which is why I'm asking about what happens after rooting the phone. I suppose any app will have root access unrestricted... How does Cyanogenmod works for that? Can I explicitly grand root to applications, like on a linux desktop where you put your password when an app needs root.
So, can I undo zergrush's root by just deleting /data/local/tmp/sh ? (or just the setuid?)
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I compiled from source cause I like to know exactly what I'm running on the phone .
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So you've presumably peer-reviewed their code prior to compiling?
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I suppose any app will have root access unrestricted... How does Cyanogenmod works for that? Can I explicitly grand root to applications, like on a linux desktop where you put your password when an app needs root.
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There are currently two choices for managing root requests, SuperSU, and Superuser.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su
AFAIK, neither of which publish their code publicly - so considering your earlier point, you won't be wanting them on your phone either.
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So you've presumably peer-reviewed their code prior to compiling?
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Yep for sure.
oinkylicious said:
There are currently two choices for managing root requests, SuperSU, and Superuser.
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At least having a single app that I can't see the code is safer than a bunch of them... I'll give it a shot.
But doesn't cyanogen mod offer superuser access management?
Found the source code for superuser
https://github.com/ChainsDD/Superuser
I am using a RCT6573W23, I have rooted it using Kingo and editing the ADK file... Everything went well, and I had installed SU and Busybox, Developement was on, but I don't think it remains on... I did some build.prop tweaks, and when messing with the LCD I messed up my system, disabling it from booting up.
I boot into Recovery just fine, and I DID BACKUP AND HAVE my original build.prop file, however, good ol' RCA doesn't provide any "files" for support at all, and connecting ADB is "SIDELOAD" only... I've read several places but everyone suggests going INTO recovery, which, I can do, or using ADB, but fail to realize it's sideload issue... I've pushed several files, but every single file is a bad footer, and wrong signature... I'm at a loss... Does ANYBODY have a recovery.zip from their Apollo 8" who could make a backup for me, so that I could sideload an official zip file. I would MUCH appreciate it... Thank you.
I have the same model... you're the only one I've heard of that has successfully rooted this one... is there a way I could get my official stock ROM copied without root?
Rooting it was simple, I believe you can go to settings backup and restore to get a .zip of your stock.. If you could shoot me a copy that'd be great. I can share how it was rooted, although it was super easy to look up.
There's not an option to backup entire system just app files.
What recovery did you use? and did you use the kingo universal rooting tool? And what edits did you have to do to the ADK?
I've successfully rooted but have no way, as of yet, to zip up my ROM. Any thoughts?
Anybody know if xposed framework or clockworkmod will work on this device?
-- Rooting your RCT6573W23 --
Install your USB drivers... If you don't have them, or you can't make your system acknowledge them, use the SDK-Method to fool your computer into reading the correct USB for your device... That method can be found at: addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-adb-and-how-to-install-it-android/
Once you've got your drivers, before even plugging in your phone, make sure you have all of these options checked... From the developer's menues: "USB Debugging" "Allow Mock Locations", and in your security & screen lock settings: "Device Administrators", and "Unknown Sources" need to be checked...
Install Kingo from kingoapp.com
NOW, simply plug it in and click root on the pc... It'll install SuperUser and enable you to use just about any feature a rooted device can use, but without flashing roms... Still nice for cheatengine and stuff.
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Hmmm, once getting it going how would you go about making a backup that could fix my device? All I can do is adb update, and apparently no zip files have the proper signature. Is there no files that put Rom-to-Zip? I guess even if there were, I'd just need the permissions right to push over my build.prop which they wouldn't be most likely... And I can't nandroid...
I've acheived root and have SU, but Here's no way to make a nandrid without some sort of recovery...
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Hmmm, once getting it going how would you go about making a backup that could fix my device? All I can do is adb update, and apparently no zip files have the proper signature. Is there no files that put Rom-to-Zip? I guess even if there were, I'd just need the permissions right to push over my build.prop which they wouldn't be most likely... And I can't nandroid...
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I believe these tablets have the RK3188T chipset, and I found These CWM Recovery images: http://androtab.info/clockworkmod/rockchip/
I don't have time to mess with it right now but I thought I'd share. I'm going to do some more reading on the subject before trying anything real crazy. Let me know if this works out for you...
Any luck on this? I was hoping to install a mod on this tablet myself