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I don't normally ask questions unless I really have to, I'm pretty good and looking up the answers myself, but I can't seem to find this one. (maybe because searching for "flash" in a forum about "flashing" roms every other post isn't exactly limited selections )
so anyway, flash. as in Adobe. What's wrong with it for the eris on froyo builds? like, what is holding the devs back on getting it working
(note: this is not a "devs r teh stooped" post, I'm not trying to insult the devs in any way. I have huge respect for them, and I know they are working hard to overcome the problem, I just want to know what that problem is just out of curiosity)
it's so hard to ask a damn question on here in fear of just getting pages of "have you heard of google?" and "if you dont like the devs, you do it!" posts...
Have you heard of Google... Lmao jk! That's a great question! I believe that flash 10.1 only works on 2.1 sense ROMS.. not perfectly may I add. The reason its not up in running on Eris froyo builds (and pls anyone correct me if im wrong) is cause their using modded 2.1 kernals, thus only replicating froyo, so there's a lot of kinks still. I Kay be wrong tho, so don't quote lol
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I think Flash is only available to phones with a 1Hz SnapDragon proccessor and Froyo, but someone hacked up a version to work for us (its somewhere in the Eris Android Development section) but I heard it was slow, most likely due to our processors though.
Edit: forgot to mention that it is on available to Sense based roms because it somehow works in conjuction or replaces? our HTC Flash lite which is already included in said roms
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I think Flash is only available to phones with a 1Hz SnapDragon proccessor and Froyo, but someone hacked up a version to work for us (its somewhere in the Eris Android Development section) but I heard it was slow, most likely due to our processors though.
Edit: forgot to mention that it is on available to Sense based roms because it somehow works in conjuction or replaces? our HTC Flash lite which is already included in said roms
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Yup, in works in conjunction with flash light. I take back what I said about it not working well tho, cause yesterday I watched a full episode of family guy on a tv website with a tube style video player, and it worked rather well being oc'ed to 710mhz
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It's not that the Eris is too weak at all it's just that we've only JUST gotten froyo. The reason we could get flash working at all on our 2.1 roms is because HTC did half the work for us with the lite flash built in.
hi guys,
I know this has been asked already, but all I see are very old threads and a lot has changed since.
Since the Galaxy SII and sensation are available now, so my question is should I buy an Atrix or should i look for other options. I am asking this question here as most of the people are using Atrix and can better tell how the phone is. If given a second chance will you buy Atrix again ?
It really depends on the money you want to spend. I got the Atrix for $99 on contract, so it was attractive to me. The higher res display was also a plus for me. When the GB update comes it'll be nice to have the 1080p recording. Also the lapdock function works fantastically for me. I travel a lot and it's nice to be able to use my phone as a laptop and charge it at the same time.
But the Galaxy S2 has a slightly faster CPU, same RAM and the display is leagues ahead in color reproduction. Seriously, looking at them is sort of unnerving because of the ridiculously bright colors.
Otherwise I'm sure they're fairly comparable.
Decide for yourself, then you can't come back here and complain to us when you're not happy.
well i have had most of the latest android phones out there at the moment and currently have the Atrix.
Things i like about it are...
1. The size, i find that the 4" screen and overall size of the phone are perfect for me, fits great in the hand and i can select most things with one hand.
2. Screen quality is great..more 'natural' than the galaxy s2, just a shame they didnt coat the screen in the same way to resist fingerprints
3. Call quality is excellent, audio quality through headphones i find to be really good (i use Klipsch x10) and it sounds great.
4. External speaker is one of the best ive known on a phone, better than the iphone 4 and galaxy s2...yes ive owned both.
5. notification led....many of the current android phones seem to leave this out but im glad the Atrix has one as its really useful.
Things i dont like....
1. 2.2 Froyo....really, along with moto-blur nearly ruin a great phone. The phone really dosent perform like a 2 core phone. However, this can be improved by using an alternative launcher like ADW ex....thats what i am using and makes scrolling between screens much smoother and less laggy.
2. The wait for gingerbread.....Motorola could be onto a big fail like sony ericcson did when they brought out the xperia x10 with android 1.6...it had everything going for it then they slaughterd it with 1.6! crazy!
Other than the fact that it is let down by having froyo i like everything else about the phone..infact i probably find it worse than others might because i have owned the galaxy s2 quite recently (sold because it was too big for me to hold in one hand) and that phone is fantastic. Very smooth and very quick...this really is where the Atrix should be
Just my view of course...
will i stick with the Atrix?.......well if gingerbread comes out in the next couple of weeks then there is every chance...if not....well i like the look of the xperia neo
these are the facts
this phone is awesome
it sucks in the same respect bc nobody, wants to dev for it, i have not seen a single anything in the last 6 months, and finally we get a leaked buggy build from hongkong and an unlocked bl
id say 90% of atrix script kiddies on here suck
, all they do is ***** about release dates, and when is cyanogen coming, and when someone finally releases something, they troll the boards just ripping the guy a new a**hole
this phone is great but if you like modding your phone and flashing custom roms
this phone will never be there in my opinion,
and it doesnt even need an xda portal bc nothing is being developed, just gingerbread skins
and questions being asked over and over and over.
so in conclusion buy the gs2 if you like roms go to that thread , theres a ton
and if you like a great phone thats small and has a high resolution, and will probably never see a custom rom, but is stable, buy the atrix
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these are the facts
this phone is awesome
it sucks in the same respect bc nobody, wants to dev for it, i have not seen a single anything in the last 6 months, and finally we get a leaked buggy build from hongkong and an unlocked bl
id say 90% of atrix script kiddies on here suck
, all they do is ***** about release dates, and when is cyanogen coming, and when someone finally releases something, they troll the boards just ripping the guy a new a**hole
this phone is great but if you like modding your phone and flashing custom roms
this phone will never be there in my opinion,
and it doesnt even need an xda portal bc nothing is being developed, just gingerbread skins
and questions being asked over and over and over.
so in conclusion buy the gs2 if you like roms go to that thread , theres a ton
and if you like a great phone thats small and has a high resolution, and will probably never see a custom rom, but is stable, buy the atrix
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wohooo..that is like too much of hatred.
Let me put in some facts regarding the development in this one:-
The BL has just been unlocked and custom roms are being worked on, you need to follow the devs on twitter and check out the Atrix dev section on Rootzwiki, just go the irc chat and find out more.
Official GB should be released soon, if it is not then an Atrix has already been donated to the CM team and CM should come out for the Atrix.
The leaked 2.3.4 build has nearly been perfected and AFAIK it is fit for daily use.
thanks for all the suggestions. I am quite fond of flashing ROMs. I bought a HD2 just because of its ability for modifications. since there isn't much work being done on moding Atrix, I guess I'll have to opt for Galaxy SII (btw I didn't like it due to its size)
There is a ton of development going on now for the Atrix. The last couple of weeks has been insane as far as that goes. Official Gingerbread 2.3.4 is rumored to come out this month. There is a leaked version that is pretty stable out now. The boot-loader is now FINALLY unlock-able so DEVs are going to and have already started new Kernels and ROMs. Choice is yours though.
Nah..don't bother with the stupid 2.3.4 Chinese leak. Its buggy and some limited functionality. Don't really see the point of flashing to the leak 2.3.4 update then reflashing it with the official 2.3.4 update. Flash much!?
Buy the Atrix when the official 2.3.4 comes out and check back XDA after a couple of months when fully functional roms and themes comes out. No need to frustrate urself and end up like the other idiots who can't read and flashed 2.3.4 and screwed up. Alot of that been happening lately.
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Edit: with over 600 views, it is sad we only have 20 votes! Vote and let others see who is using what, and what the demand is!
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Development for the vibrant right now seems to be directed by the devs, but in the real world supply and demand is an important concept. Are devs focusing on the builds that are in most demand, or are users using what the devs are building because it is all that is being worked on?
I have a feeling that a comparable amount of people use some sort of custom Froyo and are not willing to go to gingerbread as there are who are continuously using gingerbread. If this is the case then perhaps the devs can use that feedback in some way. In any case it should give us an idea of the current condition of supply and demand.
The idea here is to give feedback to devs that show them that their work is being appreciated, or what they could do that may be the most appreciated. The poll is basic, posts are welcome if they contain useful feedback.
Sorry if this seems erroneous, but even if one developer(or fellow user) finds this to be remotely useful/interesting then it is worthwhile.
I myself am going to use froyo based roms until gingerbread roms are more overall stable and functional, however I almost feel forced to use gingerbread roms since they are primarily what is still being maintained or upgraded. I want the newest features, functions, and tweaks, and since froyo seems to have been nearly forgotten I am not sure what to do. Ultimately this makes me want a new phone that doesn't have this issue.
Froyo, same reasons as you said.
Gingerbread it's way nicer imo haha.
Froyo.
Ginger just doesn't feel complete yet.
Gingerbread... CM7, Trigger and MIUI. They seem to play nicest with my phone
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Gingerbread... CM7, Trigger and MIUI. They seem to play nicest with my phone
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Thats all there is AOSP wise...not sure what your trying to imply or your saying TW GB ROM's don't work that well for you...Malice ran great for me, but I'm back in school and need my batter :/
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Thats all there is AOSP wise...not sure what your trying to imply or your saying TW GB ROM's don't work that well for you...Malice ran great for me, but I'm back in school and need my batter :/
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I'm in college, so over the summer when I didn't have much going on and a charger was always nearby, trying different ginger-roms was fine. Now that I am on campus for extended periods without a charger, I cannot use a rom that will kill more than half my battery in 6-8 hours. If everything worked right, maybe.. but considering an entire summer not being able to get something as simple as GPS working, I would not trade it MUCH improved battery life for less than normal functionality.
I was considering getting a hercules(intl version has many hardware improvements and superior battery with gingerbread), but since it will probably have similar problems(manufacturer wise, no source, mostly forgotten after launch) as the vibrant I would rather go with the prime. But if the prime doesn't go t-mobile than that isn't an option. Which leaves me with hoping that the gingerbread source comes out(for devs to work with), or the devs will make leaps with the ginger code, or that at least a few might work on froyo code..
With so many tweaks and custom apps(like hacked camera) that have come out since most froyo roms fell into neglect, I really want one or the other. If the prime comes out and I can get a tmo version, great.. otherwise I just feel screwed/forgotten.
I feel like the only updated froyo roms are being worked on by devs that don't really have it going on yet, and they only use froyo as a stepping stone.. I wish there were a thread in development section that explained to ALL devs what needs to go into every rom as a minimum(or what tweaks work with which roms, etc).
I won't switch off tmobile, I don't like them as a company, but no other is ACTUALLY better, but they all charge far more. Every situation seems lose/lose the more I think about it.
Bump because I think the results are interesting so far.
Im on gb because the speed boost was just so astronomical... particularly cm7... id appreciate dev on vibrantmtd more than others but i think that the best dev community is one where there is variety so:
Ideally, id perfer to see eclair, froyo, gb and honeycomb roms, as well as wp7 and ubuntu and ios lol. This is my dream.
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I'm also on froyo for the same basic reasons already said. I would love to see the different build prop tweaks, supercharger scripts, gps tweaks, and other customizations built into them as a standard. OnlyToxic8, Dmz nightly and zendroid are the only roms with those tweaks baked into them. I'd love more options.
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9 people either stock or froyo, 1 who is proud of him cm7. I read a ton of posts about how people have cm7 and are totally happy, so it looks like they need to do some voting
We need more people to participate to get a better overall look at the statistics.. several hundred people looked at the thread, but few votes? It only takes 2 clicks to vote..
Bump
Im loving MIUI revamped nick and t. Hill are great in both the rom they provide and support can't be beat.
Stock deodexed and rooted KB5.
I've given up on Vibrant.
I'm getting a new phone. Seriously thinking about iPhone 5. I know, I know.
But I just want a phone that works, and Vibrant has been my 3rd Android phone with problems, constant freezing, and other random issues. Vibrant was probably my worst tech purchase ever. Can't wait to get rid of this crap.
I want the Nexus Prime, but the problem is that it is manufactured by Samsung, and I swore to myself I wouldn't purchase another Samsung product. Then again it's guaranteed to get Google updates. Ahhhh I don't know.
I'm also ditching T-Mobile most likely. I have a feeling they have a hand in Samsung never releasing/leaking Gingerbread on Vibrant.
If we had Gingerbread leaked, the phone would be good probably for another 6 months-1yr.
I just flashed my first Gingerbread ROM (Asgard) and I have to say I prefer Gingerbread.
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Miui revamped by nick and Tory is amazing and they are extremely active in their forum IMO Miui runs much better on my phone than any custom froyo ROM
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miui, the customization and tweaking abilities topped with weekly updates and wip gps meet all my requirements quick reboot (10 seconds) means my wip gps is up and going in no time
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miui, the customization and tweaking abilities topped with weekly updates and wip gps meet all my requirements quick reboot (10 seconds) means my wip gps is up and going in no time
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What's "wip gps?"
I'm on a gingerbread rom on my vibrant now. They have definately become stable enough in my opinion. I am running Biff mod which even does not need to be reset to stock or loaded with GB bootloaders making it even easier now. I think the battery offput on GB roms is still there and feels lacking in my opinion but its worth the upgrade in my opinion. Currently on 2.3.5 and wouldn't go back to froyo now.
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What's "wip gps?"
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work in progress
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so 70% stock/froyo and 30% using gb/happy with it.. but the numbers are too small to be a good sample of the population.
Bump because we need more votes for accuracy!
Hey!
So, i can buy an used At&t Atrix to replace my Droid2, at a VERY cheap price.
My question is simple: Is it worth it?
And, about the roms... I have seen that Atrix Development is not as advanced as the development on Droid2, where we have Cm7 and MIUI.
Is there any reason to this? Because the Bootloader of Atrix can be unlocked, so development should be easier... Or there is something that im missing?
Thanks in advance!
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Hey!
So, i can buy an used At&t Atrix to replace my Droid2, at a VERY cheap price.
My question is simple: Is it worth it?
And, about the roms... I have seen that Atrix Development is not as advanced as the development on Droid2, where we have Cm7 and MIUI.
Is there any reason to this? Because the Bootloader of Atrix can be unlocked, so development should be easier... Or there is something that im missing?
Thanks in advance!
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Development is moving on the atrix CM7 is well into beta but is very stable and works wonderfuly, there is also an increasing list of other roms available
the atrix is a beast of a phone and is definitally worth the upgrade
that being said there will probably be many phones released in the near future that are just as good if not better than the
personallhy i have no complaints
I have been around the block the past few months, trying every phone i can,, inspire,atrix,infuse, lg thrill, dell streak, even iphone4, lol
Im going to stick it out on the atrix, I like the form factor, screen size and res,, not to mention its a beast of a phone once you get the fine tuning done,, currently have a 32 gb card, with a seidio 3200 Mah ext battery, and seidio holster,, and oc'd at 1.3g.....
Im back and forth between cm7 and alien.. either one rocks,, I say go for it, but as with anything its all bout what you like,, etc..
I'll buy it then
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Smart choice. I am holding onto my Atrix for another year at least. Hope ICS comes soon.
I have tried asking on Miui.us for a ROM for our TFP. I was wondering if some of you can show your support and help ask for a ROM for us. I have PM'ed a few Mod's and admin's of the site and have received no response. Here is the LINK to the site. Please show your support so we can get this wonderful ROM made for our TFP. I have ran it on my Evo 4G and EVO 3D and it's very smooth with a lot of customization. There are thousands of theme's made for Miui and if you haven't ever seen it, I would highly suggest you check it out. Thanks in advance!
or you could just buy an iPad
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or you could just buy an iPad
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So sick of hearing this bull.
Let the owners pick what Rom they want to run. Is there a problem with Icons being sized the same, christ people spend hours on the market picking out themes and custom icons to get their screens to look a certain way. Whether it be an Ipad kinda layout or not.
While Miui has an Apple look to it (Apple does have some beautiful design) it by NO means runs like iOS.
Man, Ill take a clean looking stable Rom any day. Miui fits this bill. You cant deny the amount of downloads Miui has, they have done something right.
OP....there was a thread started yesterday from a guy who had started on a port. He had some questions for devs to help him out. I tried to steer him to some other forums here for help. He had some screenshots of miui on his prime.....jellybean(something).....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1537786
Enough of the elitist attitudes, we want options!! Let the people decide!
Miui might look like an iOS, but it IS definitely no where near it. It is like CM# but IMO way better. You are able to customize almost every aspect of the ROM. You need to look into something before you throw out a stupid comment like"buy an iPad". If I wanted something can't truly customize, over-clock, add anything to it and wanted something blan, I would have bought an iPad. On my old EVO 4G, the ROM was so smooth and had the highest bench scores on the EVO when I had it. On the EVO 3D, it runs just as smooth and very fast. I think that Miui would be a great ROM for us TFP, and if we had our own ROM and not a port, it could be the smoothest and fastest ROM out there. Miui is also supports almost 40 known phones and tablets, and is known world wide and has a big following.
I will continue to try and ask some of the developers for help over on Miui.us.
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Miui might look like an iOS, but it IS definitely no where near it. It is like CM# but IMO way better. You are able to customize almost every aspect of the ROM. You need to look into something before you throw out a stupid comment like"buy an iPad". If I wanted something can't truly customize, over-clock, add anything to it and wanted something blan, I would have bought an iPad. On my old EVO 4G, the ROM was so smooth and had the highest bench scores on the EVO when I had it. On the EVO 3D, it runs just as smooth and very fast. I think that Miui would be a great ROM for us TFP, and if we had our own ROM and not a port, it could be the smoothest and fastest ROM out there. Miui is also supports almost 40 known phones and tablets, and is known world wide and has a big following.
I will continue to try and ask some of the developers for help over on Miui.us.
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Going on almost 2 years now with my OG evo, and ran Miui for a long time, and with the new versions I may go back.
Well said Doeboy and couldnt agree more.
I will scoot on over to the Miui forums and do my part...thanks!
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your an idoit.
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your an idoit.
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Christ! I didn't know that was all I had to type to get a thanks from DoeBoy. So much for sucking up to the XDA membership from here on out......
miui ftmfw
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Miui might look like an iOS, but it IS definitely no where near it. It is like CM# but IMO way better. You are able to customize almost every aspect of the ROM. You need to look into something before you throw out a stupid comment like"buy an iPad". If I wanted something can't truly customize, over-clock, add anything to it and wanted something blan, I would have bought an iPad. On my old EVO 4G, the ROM was so smooth and had the highest bench scores on the EVO when I had it. On the EVO 3D, it runs just as smooth and very fast. I think that Miui would be a great ROM for us TFP, and if we had our own ROM and not a port, it could be the smoothest and fastest ROM out there. Miui is also supports almost 40 known phones and tablets, and is known world wide and has a big following.
I will continue to try and ask some of the developers for help over on Miui.us.
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While miui would be a great option it will no way be the fastest rom. I have ran it myself on a few phones and it is very nice and smooth, but every phone also had other ROMs that were faster. It is very heavy on customization which is nice, don't get me wrong, but it is fact that it doesn't perform as well as many other ROMs on same device.
That being said would love to see it on the prime. Its a great ROM and I love to have more options and things to play with!
I talked to few more people over on Miui.us and found out that super_ is also working on a port for our TFP. He claims that he has been waiting for better dock support before he started ported, but he gave up on waiting and will try to also try and port it over soon.
Also, @rand4ll, IMO it was faster than any of the other ROM's that ran on the EVO 4G, and most on the 3D as well. I have switched back to a Sense rom though, a few features I like more than Miui when it comes to having it be used as a phone. Since the TFP isn't a phone, I won't miss those features and will like to use all the customization that Miui brings.
@Mcoupe, I thought I thanked you as well for providing the link and your info that you provided. I made sure it took this time!
Well we have progrss over at the Miui.us site. They have made a TFP section and are working on a rom. Whenever I find out more I will keep everyone updated on this.
http://forums.miui.us/forumdisplay.php?137-Transfomer-Prime
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Well we have progrss over at the Miui.us site. They have made a TFP section and are working on a rom. Whenever I find out more I will keep everyone updated on this.
http://forums.miui.us/forumdisplay.php?137-Transfomer-Prime
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Good news...I will definitely check it out. I have to. I'm a ROM whore.
I posted a thread about miui coming to tfp here in general, dont understand why did you open a new one..
Cheers
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for what i see his post is almost two months older than yours.
bk201doesntexist said:
I posted a thread about miui coming to tfp here in general, dont understand why did you open a new one..
Cheers
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For a short while there was a download on goo.im/miui, I'm guessing it was some sorta beta/nighty/test rom but anyway... I never got it to boot up completely (boot loop), And It appears they used cm9 as a base(the boot animation was from the old cm9 nightly) any way here is a DL link for it, see if any of you can make any progress or see what wrong with it..
http://d-h.st/B8l
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I posted a thread about miui coming to tfp here in general, dont understand why did you open a new one..
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I didn't open a new thread, I started this thread back in March and I was updating my thread that I started. .
It looks like you were the one who opened a new thread on the whole Miui ROM issue. Your post could have been added to my thread to let everyone know about an update to it. But hey, you didn't see me going to your thread and telling you about my thread that was posted before yours and you shouldn't have made a new thread. It's all cool though
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For a short while there was a download on goo.im/miui, I'm guessing it was some sorta beta/nighty/test rom but anyway... I never got it to boot up completely (boot loop), And It appears they used cm9 as a base(the boot animation was from the old cm9 nightly) any way here is a DL link for it, see if any of you can make any progress or see what wrong with it..
http://d-h.st/B8l
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Miui is built a fully built and customized version of CM I believe (I could be wrong though). They took the CM base build and basically built it from scratch off of the CM base. For a long time Miui was a closed source ROM, but I believe they finally released the source code so that any Dev can make a rom for their phone.
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I didn't open a new thread, I started this thread back in March and I was updating my thread that I started. .
It looks like you were the one who opened a new thread on the whole Miui ROM issue. Your post could have been added to my thread to let everyone know about an update to it. But hey, you didn't see me going to your thread and telling you about my thread that was posted before yours and you shouldn't have made a new thread. It's all cool though
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Yeah, it's all cool. Sorry mate, had no bad intentions, srsly.
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