[Q] NTFS recognised ? - Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I can't mount NTFS USB external hard disk, but an NTFS USB KEY is working ????, on the micro usb with the adaptor ARCHOS USB microUSB, is it normal?
Thanks.

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NTFS is currently only read only and it doesn't like to mount properly. You could reformat as FAT32 but it won't any file larger than 4GB.
The best option is to format as EXT3 with EASEUS Partition Master then use a program like EXT2FSD or EXT2IFS to allow windows to read the drive correctly.
Also if for some reason you want to keep NTFS you may have to reformat before it will mount.
As far as a cable goes, I always use the 3G stick slot. Works a lot better and I don't have the usb adaptor.

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3G slot
What you conect to 3G slot?

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reelnoob said:
What you conect to 3G slot?
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I connect the mini usb cable from my hdd directly to the fullsize 3G slot, then I turn 3g stick on in the settings. It's very important that you have "3G stick" checkmarked in Wireless & Networks otherwise you won't get power to your drive and nothing will mount.

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which drive
Ok butt which drive you use?

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I use a Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex 640GB if that's what you're wondering.

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USB host functionality
Hello to all, and best wishes for 2012 year.
Could you precise which firmware version you're running, when you have success to mount a 'USB host' peripheral ?
I tried many USB keys (6 keys, from 2 GB up to 16 GB), with different formats ( NTFS , FAT, FAT32, ext3 ) but without success. The same with a 250 GB external HDD (having its own PSU) using NTFS.
Originally, I tested with version 3.2.78 , and since this morning, 3.2.79
Still the same : Nothing detected when pluging the USB peripheral
The 3G interface is activated in settings. The tablet has been rebooted a lot of times, but.... nothing !
Any idea ?
Thanks.

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Plug it into a windows PC. If it needs drivers, then your out of luck, sorry
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Thanks for answer
All media tested ( USB or external HDD ) are OK into PCs, but no reaction on Archos 101 G9....

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Doume59249 said:
Thanks for answer
All media tested ( USB or external HDD ) are OK into PCs, but no reaction on Archos 101 G9....
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But do they need to install drivers when they are first plugged into the PC?
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Hard to be sure, but all of them had already been used on PC previously, so may be the drivers have been installed in the past ?

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@Doume59249 Okay some drives have hidden paritions that may interfere with their operation. Nothing is special with my tablet. It's a 101 classic with 1.0ghz processor bought before December. I currently run 3.2.78 rooted but it has also worked on every stock firmware prior.
Getting back to the hidden partitions. If your jumpdrive/hdd autoruns some bloatwear program or shows a cd drive when you mount it then you probably have a hidden partition.
Put your jumpdrive/hdd in the computer and hit:
start>run>diskmgmt.msc
Back up anything important you have on the drive, there's a chance it may format with this method....although it probably shouldn't, you should reformat if you have any problems. MAKE SURE YOU FIND YOUR JUMPDRIVE VOLUME.
If you see any partitions other than the main one, right click the smaller partition>delete.
Then higlight the primary/larger partition and right click>extend
Go through the wizard it should default to the maximum avaliable space.
Verify that it is fat32. Remember, if you will NOT be able to store files larger than 4GB with fat32 so I recommend to try this with a small jumpdrive and not an hdd.
Enable 3G stick in your settings and try it in your tablet again. Boot with the jumpdrive plugged in if for some reason it doesn't want to mount. If it doesn't work then maybe Archos has handycapped some of their tablets. It could also be a physical problem with your port. I'm really not sure. Hope this helped.

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Thanks for suggestions
I have tested different ways, to be sure to have only 1 partition on USB medias
- Using diskmgmt.msc under Windows Vista Pro to remove partitions and format into FAT32
- Using fdisk on Linux to remove all partitioning before to insert key into Vista, to format it into FAT32
I also tried with many USB keys
I've rebooted my Archos 101 G9 (using 3.2.78 too ), with the key inserted
But no success.....
I think the 3G location is'nt available on my tablet ( no led blinking when inserting USB keys into slot )
Probably a hardware problem : I'll try to contact Archos support about that
Question : Do you have any led blinking, when you insert a running jumpdrive ?
One more time, many thanks for your help

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ciao, very very quick test using "3g port" with Archos 101 g9 8gb, 3.2.79 rooted (thank you coolkid602008 for the trick here micro usb host cable is difficult to find in physical stores).
usb Nilox 4gb fat32 -> obviously it works
usb Kingston 8gb ntfs -> system sees but it does not mount
2.5 wd hd (500 gb) ntfs (single usb cable, data + power) -> Strangely it works!
all of these with single primary partition.
next step (when and if I have time) is try a very old creative webcam ct6840 with Omni Vision 7620 chip (I have an old box full of them at work...) that has always been recognized in any linux distribution. ciao

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Thanks, hitman72
Finally, the Archos support suggest me to return the tablet, because this should be operational, and a second problem occurred :
When waking up the tablet, the screen becomes 'crazy' : A lot of breaks into applications, the 'back' button blinking alone, without any control. All the tablet becomes uncontrollable... Probably a bad contact on screen.
So, finally, I put it back to reseller, for a return to Archos.
I'll post here feedback after return.
Thanks to all for your help

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Hi, I bought "usb host cable" for my g9 101, here are some tests (rooted 3.2.80):
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"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
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not counting the use of wireless keyboard and mouse. The usb host cable seems pretty useless. The biggest problem is not being able to use 2.5 western digital hd with ntfs primary partition (it works with 3g port...). from terminal (I'm a linux newbie) I tried to mount it but I was not able to use it. ciao

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I've been playing with USB support for a while as well. I've managed to get almost every device I own to work. To get the back to work, I need to turn on the 3G (to get power).
Rosewill SD Reader (Both - Some times requires mutliple insertions)
Logitech Keyboard and Mouse (Both - Unify)
El-cheapo game control (back only and required a USB hub)
USB3 external NTFS 640GB (back - read only)
Fail: i-Rocks MultiReader
One of the tricks I've seen is to insert a USB hub between the devices. I have no idea why, but sometimes this helps (although it sucks power). Sometimes I have to reboot to make it work. Another trick is turning the 3G Stick on and off.

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dburckh said:
I've been playing with USB support for a while as well. I've managed to get almost every device I own to work. To get the back to work, I need to turn on the 3G (to get power).
Rosewill SD Reader (Both - Some times requires mutliple insertions)
Logitech Keyboard and Mouse (Both - Unify)
El-cheapo game control (back only and required a USB hub)
USB3 external NTFS 640GB (back - read only)
Fail: i-Rocks MultiReader
One of the tricks I've seen is to insert a USB hub between the devices. I have no idea why, but sometimes this helps (although it sucks power). Sometimes I have to reboot to make it work. Another trick is turning the 3G Stick on and off.
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Thank you for your tries, is a serious problem for me not to use a ntfs hd with cable host. for someone expert in linux, can you tell us if we can make some attempt to mount ntfs hd from terminal (or other means)? ciao

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Finally, I'll forgot this tablet as soon as possible :
After 1 month of patience, they finally call me to propose a replacement
Being at shop, I required to open the new one box, to test it before leave...
And it has exactly the same problem : The tablet works alone, without any user intervention ( popup windows, notifications , switch to application list... )
The same false-contact in tactile screen than my first one. Unbelievable !
So, I required to have my money back, and they agree.
Few hours later, I bought an Acer Iconia Tab A200, and it works perfectly
You can connect any NTFS peripheral on its USB host dedicated port, and you can read/write on it, without restrictions. All USB keys tested worked fine, that's all !