Cheapest in UK? - HTC EVO 3D

Where can I get the cheapest evo 3D in the UK? I'm thinking of selling my desire z and buying an evo 3D. I would prefer it sim-free so I can use it on giffgaff, but if on contract the pay monthly must be £15 max and the phone can be upto £200
Also, is the community here still very alive?
Thanks
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Mate, I'm also from the UK and am looking to sell my Desire Z to get an EVO 3D I'm also on giffgaff!
Basically the cheapest is a 12 month contract for 36 quid a month with no initial fee.. or from expansys for around £285!
Hang about while I paste u the two deals I posted on hotukdeals (awesome site)
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http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/htc-evo-3d-expansys-for-284-99-1111688?page=1
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/htc-evo-3d-with-vodafone-36p-m-12-month-contract-phones4u-1110014
Or slightly more complicated, you could try what someone else suggested to end up with a cheap evo.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/possible-total-147-htc-evo-3d-o2-15-50-month-dialaphone-1112444
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I might go for the £285 sim free deal. Recently dropped a lot in price and is really cheap for this phone.
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In the Czech Republic is right now Htc Evo3D terribly cheap.. No one know why..
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fade2black101 said:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/htc-evo-3d-expansys-for-284-99-1111688?page=1
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/htc-evo-3d-with-vodafone-36p-m-12-month-contract-phones4u-1110014
Or slightly more complicated, you could try what someone else suggested to end up with a cheap evo.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/possible-total-147-htc-evo-3d-o2-15-50-month-dialaphone-1112444
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Woooah what a coincidence :O I gave up dev'ing on the DZ, I had the first good ICS rom
Thanks, yeah hotukdeals is brilliant! I was thinking of selling me DZ hopefully around £200, and get it from eXpansys for £280. Or, going on about £15 contract, then hopefully the 3VO would be about £180 to buy, that seems ok to me tbh... I need to find a deal like that first ;D
That 3RD deal is good, but I need internet
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Castellano2 said:
In the Czech Republic is right now Htc Evo3D terribly cheap.. No one know why..
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Do they use the same bands as in the UK?
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http://www.sim-mobile.co.uk/htc-evo-3d-contract-deals/ check the first deal... 9 1/2 free redemption, from 36 p/m to 29.... And the evo is free! !

Yes, i think we use
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Castellano2 said:
Yes, i think as use
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Can u give a link from Czech republic seller?
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http://mobilni-telefony.heureka.cz/htc-evo-3d/
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http://mobilni-telefony.heureka.cz/htc-evo-3d/
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bloody hell thats cheap!! £216!!! do they deliver to the uk? if not how would i get it

The idea with the 3rd deal is to cancel the net and then downgrade the contract 9 months in and, when u include the cashback, u get the phone for around £150.
You then don't use the SIM and stick in a giffgaff or different sim to use. The idea is not to use the contract apart from to get the phone cheap. I've decided to get that deal instead of paying a lot more to get it sim free.
Hope that makes sense
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Am getting a Evo 3D at the end of the month , Expansys says stock is due in 7 days , yet the £399 one on there is in stock now?? Hmmmmm.
No response as yet from Expansys CS either..
Ebay has them new for £305/£310 from powersellers in the UK...
Oh and Wolves ay we

roy8846 said:
Am getting a Evo 3D at the end of the month , Expansys says stock is due in 7 days , yet the £399 one on there is in stock now?? Hmmmmm.
No response as yet from Expansys CS either..
Ebay has them new for £305/£310 from powersellers in the UK...
Oh and Wolves ay we
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I'm gunna wait, if I get an iPad ill get the evo3d, if I get an android tab ill probably get an iphone but yeah go for the 280 one from expansys, brilliant deal. (I'm only 15 you see, got my desire z only almost a year ago, have to persuade parents)
And lmfao yeah, now we got frimpong we're DEEENNCHHHHHH.
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Thought about iPhone myself but I am gonna stick to what I love Android.....
Cant wait to get it now and hope the HBOOT is low enough to S-OFF easily

roy8846 said:
Thought about iPhone myself but I am gonna stick to what I love Android.....
Cant wait to get it now and hope the HBOOT is low enough to S-OFF easily
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Can't u do it the HTC way?
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
I'm gunna wait, if I get an iPad ill get the evo3d, if I get an android tab ill probably get an iphone but yeah go for the 280 one from expansys, brilliant deal. (I'm only 15 you see, got my desire z only almost a year ago, have to persuade parents)
And lmfao yeah, now we got frimpong we're DEEENNCHHHHHH.
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I'm an Arsenal fan myself
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HTC Evo 4g To HTC EVO 3d

Called sprint today cuz my girlfriend lost her phone. So of course we have insurance. They connected me to insurion and they were out of the of HTC evo so they said cuz the evo 3d is a similar device she could that one instead. So .ow we both have the evo 3d!!!!!!!!!!
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Lol that's awesome, makes me wanna lose my phone when something new comes out.
alfamega190 said:
Called sprint today cuz my girlfriend lost her phone. So of course we have insurance. They connected me to insurion and they were out of the of HTC evo so they said cuz the evo 3d is a similar device she could that one instead. So .ow we both have the evo 3d!!!!!!!!!!
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So, what you are saying is that the insurance company didn't have any 4G's available so they are sending you a 3D instead?
tgruendler said:
So, what you are saying is that the insurance company didn't have any 4G's available so they are sending you a 3D instead?
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Yep, this happens all the time not just in the cell phone world....
I've seen it done with electronics, shoes, tools, etc etc
Easier to solve the problem now than to prolong the situation...
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Yup exactly wut I'm sayin!!!!!!!
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Nice. Not sure if it is worth the 4 month wait from the device's launch to get one, but still nice nonetheless!
That's wut she wanted Cuz she had the epic 4g last year And she hated it, I was gonna get her the evo 3d for Christmas but now I dont have to
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I went to the store today cause I broke my screen and they said I'd have an evo 3d at my house tomorrow!
That's cool man
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Thats cool man but I can't believe they don't have any more evo 4gs lol , I mean is only been 18 months or so , that's almost confirming that OG evo won't get ICS (the sucks for my cousin )
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How much did u Co pay for the insurance?
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A $100 deductible
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And the insurrance is about 7 bucks a month
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Mi girlfriend have the same situation have a evo 4G and broke the usb port they send it a new in box evo 3D and if you ask they have a list of diferents types of cellphones they offer
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Soooooo tempted to try and get a claim for a 3D. I'm ready for a change lol
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Soooooo tempted to try and get a claim for a 3D. I'm ready for a change lol
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That sounds like fraud to me.
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That sounds like fraud to me.
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funny, i didn't ask you what it sounded like. Let me know what I said in my post that hinted I was going to deliberately break my phone.
I don't think it's fraud if he really breaks his phone. He's still going to have to return it to sprint.
I did that with an old treo phone I had before when I knew sprint was out of them and were replacing it with a newer phone.
Just did the same, kinda freaked out as I really like the 3d But they say they're out of that atm too, but it'll be a max 1-3 days before sent out.. I really need my phone before thursday night, so hopefully it'll be here then!

Is it worth it?

At Besy buy today, and see you get $50 off bringing it to $150, then he says trade in the evo 3d and get $100 more off. So im asking a stupid question and should know the answer but want to ask people that have the phone already. Would I be crazy to pass this phone up for $50?
That is a really good deal. If you liked your Evo 3D you will hopefully love this phone!
I would say GO FOR IT but I am a little biased as an existing owner
definitely.. night and day between those two phones. (I owned a evo 3d too)
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Im gunna throw the orginal sprint RUU on there and take it in and trade it, he said I didnt need to lock it so I think thats pretty fair. Now If I can get this rom to dlownload quicker we will be in good shape lol
Being a evo 3d owner and og evo I defenetrly think is a step up, specially when it comes to camera, screen, battery and software
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I traded my EVO3d at best buy for $110 and I never looked back. I'm even in a WiMAX market. This phone is awesome I can't put it down. My XDA post count went up 10 folds cause of this phone.
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shook187 said:
I traded my EVO3d at best buy for $110 and I never looked back. I'm even in a WiMAX market. This phone is awesome I can't put it down. My XDA post count went up 10 folds cause of this phone.
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Wow...$150 trade in value for my E4GT and $50 gift card. I can get it for basically free.
Awesome.
blackroseMD1 said:
Wow...$150 trade in value for my E4GT and $50 gift card. I can get it for basically free.
Awesome.
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Go do it then what u waiting for yo
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Wow...$150 trade in value for my E4GT and $50 gift card. I can get it for basically free.
Awesome.
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Epic touch is worth more then $150
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shook187 said:
My XDA post count went up 10 folds cause of this phone.
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Which is, of course, the main reason to get this phone.
In all seriousness, getting the phone for $50 is a pretty good deal. I'd say it's worth it.
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Epic touch is worth more then $150
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It's worth more at BB if you have the Buy Back program. They gave me $350 for my Epic Touch. If u dont have Buy Back I think that is accurate. Radio Shack gives even less. You can/should definitely get more for it elsewhere like Craigslist. But it is a major step up from the 3D in every aspect. Only thing it lacks is removable battery but the battery life so far has been awesome!
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I came from an EVO 3D, and I couldn't be any happier. This phone is legit, for sure.
I traded in my original EVO 4G and with other rebates I ended up only using the $50 gift card I originally preordered with.
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The EVO 4g LTE is a great phone but I would just wait a couple of weeks for the SGSIII and make your choice then.
ckoadiyn said:
Go do it then what u waiting for yo
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I'd have it already if Sprint would hurry up and reset my upgrade date.

Just Ordered EVO 3D!!!

I'm so happy to be upgrading to the evo 3d from the LG-P500. lol:cyclops:
Welcome to the club man :]
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Threevo said:
Welcome to the club man :]
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Sound s sweet , man. What you going to do
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i/o Mod said:
I'm so happy to be upgrading to the evo 3d from the LG-P500. lol:cyclops:
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No offense but why did you pick the evo 3d? It's a great device but a bit dated now with the fancy quad cores and all that.
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Sound s sweet , man. What you going to do
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Keion said:
No offense but why did you pick the evo 3d? It's a great device but a bit dated now with the fancy quad cores and all that.
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1.I'm Poor. 2.It Looks Cool.
How did you order it? Sprint "end of life'd" the Evo3D like a month ago.
Honestly I would say return the phone and spend the extra money to get a Galaxy S3 or Evo 4G LTE.
Nanan00 said:
How did you order it? Sprint "end of life'd" the Evo3D like a month ago.
Honestly I would say return the phone and spend the extra money to get a Galaxy S3 or Evo 4G LTE.
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I Only Paid $120.00 And Its Brand New.
Wow lol its extremely cheap impossible to find the same price have the cheapest smartphones and you got a very good smart! Were did u buy?
twingle said:
Wow lol its extremely cheap impossible to find the same price have the cheapest smartphones and you got a very good smart! Were did u buy?
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Found It On Amazon.com
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Found It On Amazon.com
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Wow!
Cheapest new one on Amazon.co.uk is £453.60 ($717.32!!!)
Cheapest used one is £234.99 ($371.61).
Sux to have our economy right now. :crying:
lurkist said:
Wow!
Cheapest new one on Amazon.co.uk is £453.60 ($717.32!!!)
Cheapest used one is £234.99 ($371.61).
Sux to have our economy right now. :crying:
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Wow Got It Really Cheap ;D
I got mine free back in december , rogers canada had a 10 days promotion
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flashallthetime said:
I got mine free back in december , rogers canada had a 10 days promotion
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Wow That's Awesome
lurkist said:
Wow!
Cheapest new one on Amazon.co.uk is £453.60 ($717.32!!!)
Cheapest used one is £234.99 ($371.61).
Sux to have our economy right now. :crying:
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Mine was from as a direct for £200!
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I got mine on ebay brand new for $190.
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Wow That's Awesome
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Yah, but then I got my first bill, activation fee, admin fee etc, etc so it ended it wasn't actually free always hidden costs, bastard's :beer::beer::beer:
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I paid £220 ($348) on eBay, near mint. Fair outlay, but I'm more than happy with it! It's my favourite toy at the moment!
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Yah, but then I got my first bill, activation fee, admin fee etc, etc so it ended it wasn't actually free always hidden costs, bastard's :beer::beer::beer:
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Lol.
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Yah, but then I got my first bill, activation fee, admin fee etc, etc so it ended it wasn't actually free always hidden costs, bastard's :beer::beer::beer:
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I got mine at about the same time for $0.01.
Same promotion as you, I'm guessing.
But, I never got any hidden fees since it was an upgrade.

Selling a rooted Evo LTE. Question.

Okay, I just listed my rooted LTE on ebay and my wife's un rooted LTE. Should I have un rooted my LTE before selling it to get more money or is it worth more rooted?
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MRBULLRED said:
Okay, I just listed my rooted LTE on ebay and my wife's un rooted LTE. Should I have un rooted my LTE before selling it to get more money or is it worth more rooted?
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I wouldn't think that a rooted phone would be worth more than a non-rooted phone. Having said that, though, the rooted phone may sell easier since the work to root it has already been done. It really depends on what the buyer wants. A power user would more likely be inclined to grab the rooted phone, while somebody else may or may not care. So long as both phones have clean ESN's you shouldn't have a problem selling either one.
Just my 2 cents worth
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MRBULLRED said:
Okay, I just listed my rooted LTE on ebay and my wife's un rooted LTE. Should I have un rooted my LTE before selling it to get more money or is it worth more rooted?
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Personally I always unroot my phones before selling them. My thought behind this is that the average Joe doesn't understand a rooted phone and may be scared or put off by it. Any techie that wants a rooted phone can probably just do it themselves. In my eyes you are eliminating potential customers who may be put off by the idea of a rooted phone. I don't think of rooted as a selling point. Just my thoughts.
Do you happen to have a white one?
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S-off?
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I have a rooted and S-off evo black with defender otterbox. PM me if you want getting a NOTE 2
I've seen rooted evo ltes on eBay go for about the same as unrooted evos. ~230
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I just put my s-off evo on craigslist.. Trying to trade for the gs3.. I just got a hit too Sucks cause i love HTC phones so much.. Every smartphone i ever had was HTC but im so sick of the way they treat the dev community.. I main reason im wanting to trade is kernel source.. Making us wait months for it is BS.. By the time they post it it will be no good cause there will be a new update out 3 days later.. Its crazy how many people i have seen on line jump ship to sammy because of this.. HTC needs to get there ishh together.. lol watch my luck ill go threw with the trade and HTC will release kernel source for the LTE 2 days later!! hahaha Ill be pissed!
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I just put my s-off evo on craigslist.. Trying to trade for the gs3.. I just got a hit too Sucks cause i love HTC phones so much.. Every smartphone i ever had was HTC but im so sick of the way they treat the dev community.. I main reason im wanting to trade is kernel source.. Making us wait months for it is BS.. By the time they post it it will be no good cause there will be a new update out 3 days later.. Its crazy how many people i have seen on line jump ship to sammy because of this.. HTC needs to get there ishh together.. lol watch my luck ill go threw with the trade and HTC will release kernel source for the LTE 2 days later!! hahaha Ill be pissed!
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jkoch35 said:
S-off?
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I remember "feeding the panda" but I'm not sure if that made it s-off. I will have to check when I get home.. I had the Evo 4g, Evo 3d, and Evo LTE. All were rooted. That's why I am unsure.
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I will have to check.. Im not home right now though. .
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You have a white one?
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You have a white one?
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Sorry, black one. I'm pretty sure its hboot 1.12 as well.
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Sorry, black one. I'm pretty sure its hboot 1.12 as well.
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Dam
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HTC One

So I don't know if anyone else is thinking about getting this phone, it has caught my interest. I went to the Sprint site to see what's going on there, and they are advertising it as coming soon. I went to check my upgrade eligibility and then looked at current phones they have. To my surprise the OG Evo is selling higher than the LTE with 2-year contract. To top it off the OG is preowned. That's crazy right?
Anyways, what's everyone think of the new HTC phone?
One is with a contract the other is without a contract. No it's not crazy
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I actually have wimax coverage where I live and work but no LTE, not crazy IMO
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I have neither, and I guess they priced them differently for upgrade pricing. I checked again and it is cheaper if you sign up as a new customer. I never post on these forums but I thought maybe someone would be interested in some nerd discussion. Thanks for the replies, but in my opinion, its crazy to still sell a phone that old in any condition.
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One is with a contract the other is without a contract. No it's not crazy
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No they're definately both contract price bruh. But I just checked and it showed the og evo as 49.99 and lte at 99.99
It shows LTE for .99 for me
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No they're definately both contract price bruh. But I just checked and it showed the og evo as 49.99 and lte at 99.99
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it did the same for me
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It shows LTE for .99 for me
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this means our phone is dead in the technology world
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it did the same for me
this means our phone is dead in the technology world
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it's sad how much the S3 is still worth MUCH more than the Evo...not sure why HTCs always drop so much in price
I love HTC, but I'm passing on the HTC One
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I love HTC, but I'm passing on the HTC One
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Not me..ill be getting it for sure ...and then ill get the next flagship and so on...its not easy keeping up but I have a problem...I come to xda so I know I'm not alone
Ill be jumping on it....my contract is up may 1st.
Yea. Samsung phones have always felt cheaper to me. The interface is definitely nothing compared to sense. The only things that turn me away from the One, is that it doesn't have an expandable sd slot. Then again, neither does my iPod and I never run out of space on that. Then again, it is an Apple product. I'd like to know which developers are going to the One, that could also be a sway. Imagining Viper on it, I think HTC should hire some of our developers to perfect the interface.
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Not me..ill be getting it for sure ...and then ill get the next flagship and so on...its not easy keeping up but I have a problem...I come to xda so I know I'm not alone
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I envy you. I wish I could get it!
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Im never buying another HTC again, from now on I'm only buying Nexi devices.
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Im never buying another HTC again, from now on I'm only buying Nexi devices.
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As my signature would imply, you don't need to make Nexus plural when you've already used the plural form of devices
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As my signature would imply, you don't need to make Nexus plural when you've already used the plural form of devices
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Haha your right I didn't catch that
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To continue the grammar policing in good humor, the plural form of Nexus Is actually Nexus or Nexuses not Nexi. Nice try though.
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Real question is does The One replace the Evo branding. I don't believe HTC would make Sprint or any carrier specific variant of The One. This is exactly what they are trying to get away from. They want 1 device on every carrier that they can market the crap out of(ala galaxy). What do you guys think about that? I love my EVO LTE, I think its superior to the GS3 and I love having a phone that people ask "what the heck is that" because it looks different. Is this the end of the EVO or just going to delay the EVO launch until the luster of The One is over??
Can't wait for the next evo.
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Can't wait for the next evo.
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If HTC sticks to the whole one phone for all carriers (which they would be smart to do so). Then there is no more Evo.

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