Reviews and complaints but didn't see a thread dedicated to synthetics. So here it is! Post your benchmarks and please keep this thread on topic. Thanks guys.
Updated with more benches. Same method. Fresh boot, 3 runs, highest score
Update 2: Linpack seems both far too inconsistant and inaccurate compared with my Droid razr. Will post results if/when it is updated.
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Update 4: overclocked to 1.6ghz
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How did u get that CF bench score? What is your setup?
Stock with performance mode running. 3 runs after a reset. This thing is a beast!!! My scores ranged from 10-12 k
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You know what I don't want to see? This crap! I hate you!! I want my Prime!!!!!
But really, nice post, OP. Only makes me want the damned thing more, but I like seeing what I will hopefully soon have in my hands. That thing is a beast!
Haha sorry I know how much it sucked waiting for mine but I also know how much it sucked seeing all of the negative posts as well. This is a fantastic device with a few initial manufacturing bugs. They will all get ironed out soon and we will have our "Ipad killer" if you must call it that =)
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Here's mine with no cold boot or anything. Just killed recent apps and ran it.
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I feel obligated to point out some reasons why the usual mobile benchmark suspects return somewhat underwhelming results on the prime.
Quadrant- it seems as though tegra3 has 60fps framerate cap/vsync in place. You won't see framerate in quadrant exceed ~60fps, but it won't really dip below this either, leading me to believe the uncapped framerate would be quite a bit higher.
Linpack- linpack appears to run predictably in single threaded mode, yielding results that are pretty impressive if it is indeed running on 1 1.4ghz core. I have pretty extensive experience with linpack on the server and desktop side, and it typically scales near 98% per core (assuming ample memory bandwidth), as do most pure arithmatic tests. Well, multithreaded mode doesn't seem to like tegra3 at the moment, with scores ranging between 70mflops and 120mflops....120 is probably pretty accurate, but linpack doesn't actually give it credence due to precision. This may just be a matter of updating the app, or it may be a product of the aggressive power-gating in place on tegra3.
Neocore- doesn't run, but would probably cap at 60fps.
Nenamark2- I average 50fps, but bump up against 60fps in several spots. keep in mind the resolution...
And on the topic of resolution, if you look at the results browsers for these apps, the prime may not have the highest score outright, but it definitely has the highest score of a device at 1280x800 (though that's likely to change after CES).
Just some things to keep in mind.
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That's kind of why I've taken a liking to cfbench. Seems to take most of those things out of the equation.
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I actually like this one lol Sorry couldnt resist what app are you guys using to run this. I figure there might be one that tests better for Tegra since my phone is a Qualcomm device
here is mines. The overall score is basically 12,000. like the op said, this score varies from the 10k-12k range though. I ran this after a fresh reboot and killing off unneccessary apps running. Although the OP scored a lil bit higher overall, my Java score is higher than his
Both cf and antutu.
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Both cf and antutu.
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how come your Java score is so low? did you run these tests in balanced mode? my Java score is basically 3 times higher than yours. I know running the tests, the scores will vary. but by that much?
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how come your Java score is so low? did you run these tests in balanced mode? my Java score is basically 3 times higher than yours. I know running the tests, the scores will vary. but by that much?
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I have no idea . I never change the power profile from normal. I didn't kill anything right before doing the test either, and it hasn't been rebooted in about 3 days. I'll try rebooting and give it another go.
EDIT: 2764... Lame, idk why it's so low RETURN! Lol jk
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Linpack 90-136
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Here's mine with no cold boot or anything. Just killed recent apps and ran it.
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I would say this is already an Ipad killer. If not I dont think my wife would be trying to trade me. She never wanted to on any other tablet.
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I posted this in a different thread, but will happily move here. I'll finish up my AnTuTu results tonight or tomorrow.
I'll also comment that single-run benchmarks can be *way* off, so the OP definitely has the right idea, multiple run averages are key.
About the following - I didn't mention in the other thread that all the runs were done after manually force-stopping any app I thought might have been running. I didn't thoroughly check for everything, though.
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Hi all,
As an analytical chemist, it drives me nuts to see things like benchmark results posted without details about things like how many times the test was done, what the error bars are, etc. So, to remedy the situation, here are my results. Higher is better in all circumstances. AnTuTu results will be coming as well, eventually.
Quadrant Standard (5 repetitions per setting):
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Normal - average 3027.4, std dev 24.8
Balanced - average 2754.8, std dev 139.2
PowerSaver - average 2226.8, std dev 302.4
Linpack, single thread (10 repetitions per setting):
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Normal - average 46.08, std dev 3.18
Balanced - average 43.24, std dev 0.44
PowerSaver - average 35.63, std dev 4.48
Linpack, multi thread (10 repetitions per setting):
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Normal - average 69.63, std dev 1.90
Balanced - average 66.75, std dev 3.07
PowerSaver - average 51.90, std dev 7.10
I wonder why my linpack multithread scores were so low? Anyway, these results corroborate earlier posting about the size of the performance hit going between modes.
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I posted this in a different thread, but will happily move here. I'll finish up my AnTuTu results tonight or tomorrow.
I'll also comment that single-run benchmarks can be *way* off, so the OP definitely has the right idea, multiple run averages are key.
About the following - I didn't mention in the other thread that all the runs were done after manually force-stopping any app I thought might have been running. I didn't thoroughly check for everything, though.
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I basically did the same thing and rebooted before running my CF benchmark test. This info you posted in other thread was relevant to its topic also.
felt pretty special!
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felt pretty special!
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Why such a low score? Is that just a cpu test and not a full test?
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But why?!?
The Qualcomm CPU should kick ass. (Granted, it might not be faster than the Exynos in SGII but it shouldn't be MUCH slower) The GPU is also on par, if not faster than the Mali and Tegra GPU...
So why do my Benchmark scores kinda suck? My Tegra2 powered 7 inch tablet usually gets way better scores than my Evo3D... On some benchmarks it's even noticably behind LG Optimus 2X and similar phones that it should be AT LEAST on par with, if not faster...
Is it only the ROM that's at fault here or what's going on? What benchmark scores do the rest of you get? Smartbench, Antutu, Quadrant, CF Bench and all the rest of them?
(And yes, the phone is smooth enough in everyday use. And benchmarks don't mean everything, but it DOES mean something...)
It only means anything if all you do is bench testing on your phone. Try play games, watch films and take some picture with youe phone instead.
The mal 400 is way faster than anything else in android phones.
Never the less, nothing comes close to taxing the 3d processor or go. So don't worry about benches.
What more do you really need out of EVO3D benches to see that with the right ROM, and not having 46 widgets and livewallpaper running in the background, you can get some pretty nice scores:
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Various roms, kernels, no telling really what at the time, but pretty much in line. There's something wrong with the Rom you're on, or your setup if you can't get good benches with this phone, IMHO.
What ROM, kernel, are you running, and what's a 'bad' score in your book?
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I love it when people jizz over benchmark scores. Like justj said, try some apps, games, and movies. If they run fantastically, then you're phone is running great, and you don't need to worry about silly benchmark numbers.
Real Use >>>>>>> Benchmarks
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What ROM, kernel, are you running, and what's a 'bad' score in your book?
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Ah, thank you... I'll turn off everything but the benchmarking app, and get back to you with the scores... As for "bad score" well, I'd expect it to beat my tablet (Tegra2, 1024*600 resolution) as well as the LG 2X, Atrix, Optimus 3D, and most of the newer phones on the market, really. Which it at present doesn't do. It gets beaten by the Nexus S in some benchmarks!
Video and games and so on run pretty fast and smooth, so overall I'm happy and don't place TOO much weight on benchmarks. I just find it odd, because benchmarks to certain degree DO reflect real world performance.
I'll get back to you with scores and which ROM etc. Off the top of my head, I remember it's running 2.3.4 Rogers ROM...
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Ah, thank you... I'll turn off everything but the benchmarking app, and get back to you with the scores... As for "bad score" well, I'd expect it to beat my tablet (Tegra2, 1024*600 resolution) as well as the LG 2X, Atrix, Optimus 3D, and most of the newer phones on the market, really. Which it at present doesn't do. It gets beaten by the Nexus S in some benchmarks!
Video and games and so on run pretty fast and smooth, so overall I'm happy and don't place TOO much weight on benchmarks. I just find it odd, because benchmarks to certain degree DO reflect real world performance.
I'll get back to you with scores and which ROM etc. Off the top of my head, I remember it's running 2.3.4 Rogers ROM...
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Didn't know you had a GSM phone.... Those are capped at 80% of potential speed by the Canadian Government.
(Nah, j/k).
Good luck on outbenchmarking the LG2X... (you'll need it). Benchmarks can't save a bad phone, but if they could, that's where they'd start. I've seen multiple screens from multiple Lg2x users running CM7 with Quadrant Standard scores of over 5K. That's insane.
We'll probably never see that on an EVO3D, but it doesn't matter, because ultimately, the LG2X isn't half the phone at the end of the day.
Just my 2 cents.
Edit: If your tablet happens to be a Viewsonic Gtab, well, forget that notion as well. That basically is at the top of every benchmark 'top scores' list.
I've got one.
Is it fast?
Incredibly fast.
Would I trade it right now for a "slower" tablet that was a "better" tablet?
You betcha.
Righty o...
I could always upload screenshots later if you think that might be a good idea, but here are some scores:
Antutu: 4442, which puts it behind both the S2, the Optimus 2X and the Motorola Xoom (!?!)
Nenamark 2 reported a somewhat respectable 25.6.
Smartbench 2011 (Supposedly the only benchmark suite that takes dualcore into consideration): Productivity: 2397 Games: 1650
(Which is behind the Transformer Tab and Atrix in both categories, and even behind the Nexus S and Galaxy S in Games)
Quadrant:1491 (Just ahead of Moto Droid X and Nexus One at 1250!)
Devicemark: 1325 (Equal to Desire HD, but behind the Atrix and LG 2X)
CF Bench: 8740, 1364, 4314 (Way behind both the Atrix and the Sensation?!)
I think that's it as far as the benchmarks I ran. I can upload the screenshots if you think it might help. As for the phone, it's a Rogers phone with the 2.3.4 Gingerbread, HTC software: 1.20.631.2
(BTW: What does "SMP PREEMPT" mean in the Kernel version?!?)
And no, the tablet is an Iconia A100. Zippy little thing, though I don't understand how it can run corners around my Evo with a Tegra CPU and more pixels to push...
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I could always upload screenshots later if you think that might be a good idea, but here are some scores:
Antutu: 4442, which puts it behind both the S2, the Optimus 2X and the Motorola Xoom (!?!)
Nenamark 2 reported a somewhat respectable 25.6.
Smartbench 2011 (Supposedly the only benchmark suite that takes dualcore into consideration): Productivity: 2397 Games: 1650
(Which is behind the Transformer Tab and Atrix in both categories, and even behind the Nexus S and Galaxy S in Games)
Quadrant:1491 (Just ahead of Moto Droid X and Nexus One at 1250!)
Devicemark: 1325 (Equal to Desire HD, but behind the Atrix and LG 2X)
CF Bench: 8740, 1364, 4314 (Way behind both the Atrix and the Sensation?!)
I think that's it as far as the benchmarks I ran. I can upload the screenshots if you think it might help. As for the phone, it's a Rogers phone with the 2.3.4 Gingerbread, HTC software: 1.20.631.2
(BTW: What does "SMP PREEMPT" mean in the Kernel version?!?)
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There is something seriously wrong. The least you should be getting is around 2000-2500.
Yeah, I turned off background apps, etc. What scores do people with the Rogers ROM usually get? Would backing up and then a full restore to factory settings help?
I'm rooted btw, but didn't install an alternate rom.
No question that the gs2 benches well but after having one for a couple days I missed my 3d..I trade benches for a smooth and usable UI ..but ocd I can beat the gs2 in every bench app there is ..I never felt the supposed increase in speed that the epic has ..the 3d opened my apps faster and was more stable using games that utilized the gyro ie homerun baseball 3d ..almost unplayable on the gs2..our phones have plenty of power either way we have plenty of power on tap
Nope. Quadrant seems about right from what I remember with the Rogers ROM. Not much better with LeeDroid either.
Might have to do with the inability of GSM devs to tweak the kernel and overclock as HTC messed up the board files in the kernel sources they released for the GSM.
This is what I've got with aosp oc...
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And no, the tablet is an Iconia A100. Zippy little thing, though I don't understand how it can run corners around my Evo with a Tegra CPU and more pixels to push...
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Oooh... I'm VERY interested in the A100... I'm actually going to Best Buy today, as they finally have them in stock @~300$... But they have the Flyer as well at the same price...
The a100 IS sporting a dual-core Tegra2 A9 processor, is it not?
And since HC 3.2 in a brand-new device is probably optimized better, speed-wise, I, for one, would expect it to out-perform the 3d in a benchmark test, even @ 1000Mhz.
How do you like the A100, overall?
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No, you kinda lost, because you made anyone who might be interested download a dropbox file instead of just doing this:
EDIT: WHOOPS, Sorry dude... If I had noticed you were using drocap or whatever I would've understood your need to dropbox it.
Some of those market screenshot apps just do not work. Native screenshot works fine for me..END EDIT.
(whatevs, no biggie, lol.. Nice scores.. Which Rom/kernel combo is that, if you don't mind me asking?
I'm gonna just guess and say that's an OC'd aosp rom.
Yes?
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How do you like the A100, overall?
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I actually really like it! When I was in the store, I let all the tablets do a sunspider test, and the A100 actually came out ahead of everybody, even the iPad2, so it IS a zippy little fella.
Anything in particular you'd like to know? The two cameras are just fine, the few times I used them for anything else than a webcam, they did the job fine.
Speakers are great and really loud. The screen is a bit on the dim side, but turning off the auto light in settings take care of that. It's really comfortable to hold, even for extended periods of time, even if the plastic might make it feel and look less than a premium product.
Batterylife is kinda meh, I usually don't get more than 5 hours out of it, but then again it's pretty rare that I take it somewhere where there isn't a charger around. The only thing I can think off that would require your tab to be on for 5 hours is a plane trip, and even most of those have chargers these days
The only caveat I would have, is that as a Evo3D owner a 7 inch screen might be a bit too small. I mean the difference between 7 and 4.3 inches isn't that big in daily use, and after getting the Evo I kinda find the 7 inch screen a bit on the small side. Might just be me though. If I had to choose any tablet today, I think I'd go for the Galaxy. The 10 inch size is just right, and it weighs pretty much the same as the A100, and since getting a tablet I've found out that weight means more in terms of portability than just size.
The only other thing I've found to be annoying would probably also apply to the Flyer: There aren't too many tablet apps available as it is, and the few tablet apps there are, aren't always compatible with 7 inch tabs. There are way more apps and games available for 10 inch tablets.
Oh yeah, one more thing: The A100 is super easy too root. Took me like 5 mins. But the support for it is pretty poor. There's like no ROMs available for it at all, which I find really weird. Not yet anyways, but hopefully it'll gain some devs...
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Oh yeah, one more thing: The A100 is super easy too root. Took me like 5 mins. But the support for it is pretty poor. There's like no ROMs available for it at all, which I find really weird. Not yet anyways, but hopefully it'll gain some devs...
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BTW, I posted this somewhere else, and you may already know this trick, but if you wanna "revert your UI to Gingerbread" on an HC tablet (I did.... Just not into HC yet), and since you've already rooted, if you change your density to 171 (or above) , it will revert the ui to GB, (something you might be more used to, or like better) , while maintaining compatibility with those 3.0 apps.
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Hey guys, havent really ever posted much but here goes:
I just bought the note, and switched to at&t just for the phone, i absolutely love the idea of having a small tablet that fits in your pocket that also makes your calls.
but.....
I'm comming from sprint's galaxy s2 (epic 4g touch). That phone was superfast. I feel like this phone absolutely crawls in comparison, its laggy and jumpy and things just take so long to open up... switching between things isnt as instantaneuos as before.. Another surefire way i know that something is definitely worse is that before on my gs2 i was able to run adownloader, downloading as many as 4 torrents at a time without the phone slowing down to terribly and i was even able to watch avi videos normally while downloading. now, the phone comes to a complete stop.
Now, to be fair, i did root my sg2 a few months ago and installed a custom rom but i never overclocked it, but maybe thats why that phone was faster. could it be that when devs start making custom roms for this one it will "speed up"?
Because im sorry this phone is so laggy now.....
Make sure you don't have energy saver turned on that could be causing this
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mottyengel said:
could it be that when devs start making custom roms for this one it will "speed up"?....
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Yes, in fact.
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Make sure you don't have energy saver turned on that could be causing this
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This helped a lot. Tyvm.
I noticed that every once in a while I have to do a "clear memory" in the task manager to speed up the Note. Not sure what's going on, maybe a memory leak. It won't be long until we have ICS and I'm sure that will speed it up quite a bit.
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Make sure you don't have energy saver turned on that could be causing this
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You mean system power saving option? Or is there another option called energy saver? Just checking you never know.
There seem to be HUGE performance differences between the LTE notes. I got lucky and have a super fast one.
Everything, and I mean everything, is hardcore fast and super smooth. This note is faster than the H+ galaxy nexus and much faster than the SGS2 Skyrocket side-by-side. Quadrant (new) scores around 2900-3200 and I'm totally stock with no modifications. Apps open instantly, there is no waiting, no stuttering and if you search for my posts, you'll see my screenshots of over 5 hours of screen on time with over 21 hours of unplugged time in an LTE zone (Atlanta).
My point being: if your Note isn't working as I have just described, be aware that there are notes out there that do, mine being one of them. Go exchange it. When you get one that performs as it should, this is the fastest and best performing phone on the market currently. I've tested it side-by-side with the best.
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And yes, when roms start coming in, this phone will scream even more. Everyone *****ing about it not having an exynos. Here's a nugget of info: you can overclock the hell out of snapdragon, much more than exynos. Clock-for-clock exynos is faster but when devs jump in, snapdragon will be faster in the long run due to overclockability. You watch, this processor will break 2ghz and still have great battery life once smart processor scaling gets implemented into ROMs.
Hell, Da_G was near 2ghz (1.93) before the phone was officially publicly released. In time, these clocks will become stable.
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Stock benchmark...
was like 2500 on quadrant but then I rooted and used the overclock kernel and I'm at 3400...I don't know how people get 2900-3200 stock highly questionable. My friend got one the same day I did and his stock is at the exact same score about 2500.
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There seem to be HUGE performance differences between the LTE notes. I got lucky and have a super fast one.
Everything, and I mean everything, is hardcore fast and super smooth. This note is faster than the H+ galaxy nexus and much faster than the SGS2 Skyrocket side-by-side. Quadrant (new) scores around 2900-3200 and I'm totally stock with no modifications. Apps open instantly, there is no waiting, no stuttering and if you search for my posts, you'll see my screenshots of over 5 hours of screen on time with over 21 hours of unplugged time in an LTE zone (Atlanta).
My point being: if your Note isn't working as I have just described, be aware that there are notes out there that do, mine being one of them. Go exchange it. When you get one that performs as it should, this is the fastest and best performing phone on the market currently. I've tested it side-by-side with the best.
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I pretty much agree with this guy. My note performs absolutely flawlessly. I have root, but have not installed overclocked kernel or overclocking apps. Even with a live wallpaper running, my device seems to fly by. @OP Possibly a resource hogging app?
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was like 2500 on quadrant but then I rooted and used the overclock kernel and I'm at 3400...I don't know how people get 2900-3200 stock highly questionable. My friend got one the same day I did and his stock is at the exact same score about 2500.
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Get on YouTube. Go look up the phonedog ATT Galaxy Note review. In it, the quadrant benchmark score is 1700ish, he's using totally stock software with static wallpaper. Yours, at 2500 was 800 over his. Quadrant fluctuations? Random variables? Different note performance? My claim of 2900-3200 shouldn't be "questionable", as if your incinuating I'm lying, when there is already 800 points difference between a huge YouTube reviewer and yours.
I hate benchmarks. Don't care what they say as I find it rarely relates to real-performance. Already have quadrant uninstalled from my note. Yet people use it and live by it, so when discussing performance, I have no choice but to use it for comparison. My note absolutely screams and if yours doesn't, something, somewhere, is wrong.
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It won't be long until we have ICS and I'm sure that will speed it up quite a bit.
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I wouldn't hold your breath. Besides, using golauncher works 100% on this 2.3 version, which for the most part is as stable as they get. I'm not convinced ICS has much to offer outside of a slick GUI. And that's GL does anyway
I got the same speeds this thing.is stupid fast ...all stock
Err0xx said:
There seem to be HUGE performance differences between the LTE notes. I got lucky and have a super fast one.
Everything, and I mean everything, is hardcore fast and super smooth. This note is faster than the H+ galaxy nexus and much faster than the SGS2 Skyrocket side-by-side. Quadrant (new) scores around 2900-3200 and I'm totally stock with no modifications. Apps open instantly, there is no waiting, no stuttering and if you search for my posts, you'll see my screenshots of over 5 hours of screen on time with over 21 hours of unplugged time in an LTE zone (Atlanta).
My point being: if your Note isn't working as I have just described, be aware that there are notes out there that do, mine being one of them. Go exchange it. When you get one that performs as it should, this is the fastest and best performing phone on the market currently. I've tested it side-by-side with the best.
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Just out of curiosity, what color is your Note?
My GF has the white one, and I have the carbon blue one. Just like you, hers keeps hitting quadrant scores of 2800 +, reaching up to ~ 3100. Mine has topped at 2800, hitting usually ~ 2500.
Needless to say, quadrant isn't very consistent, and hers sometimes hits around 2300, but mine has never gone over 2800.
I know that benchmark scores are in no way a reliable way of measuring a device's performance, but after paying a hefty price for the phone, and seeing that one next to mine which was also purchased at the exact same time and has the exact same specs is getting a consistent "better performance", makes me wonder if I should ask for an exchange.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Forgot to mention, the overall phone performance seems to be smoother on her Note. Mine has some lag, mostly on the home screen, whereas hers barely lags at all.
I have the Black one, and it is laggy as hell. I mean horrible. Like I keep debating taking it back.
Anyway, my quadrant is always around 2500.
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I have the Black one, and it is laggy as hell. I mean horrible. Like I keep debating taking it back.
Anyway, my quadrant is always around 2500.
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OK. can we get a poll here, i guess i should start a new thread for this, but mine is black and laggy as hell to. can people post their colors? Best buy said that they dont exchange for color though.. not sure what to do..
Before root and rom/kernal, Note was laggy at times, tried adw (much better) and go launcher (better) then I rooted and rom'ed and I got 3842 running the oc Kernal, its flying! I will say stock though the skyrocket I had was faster, no lag at all
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OK. can we get a poll here, i guess i should start a new thread for this, but mine is black and laggy as hell to. can people post their colors? Best buy said that they dont exchange for color though.. not sure what to do..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517550
Here is a link to a post with a poll related to what we are discussing.
thanks so much!
Anyone interested? 1.8ghz was easy peasy. Is this performance gain what you may call negligible? I forgot the file name, otherwise I'd post it. Debating whether or not to do that or not, as this is the first version - plan on going higher. Plus i already work on a kernel for the tf101, might not want to take on too much. Tell me if attached quadrant score is decent. What really makes the difference is usability, I feel that its much quicker - plus it keeps my hands warm, which is great.
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My goal is 2.0ghz, I was half joking with 'lilstevie' in the IRC chat when I said 2.0ghz was my oc demands for this new tablet - now, I'm kinda serious. Besides, this thing is still kinda slow compared to... my laptop. Also uses a new power reg.. so the max vcore limit could be higher. Yay. GPS is still a kick in the ****. That reminds me, what is the make/model of the GPS? If we can't boost reception, we can certainly try xmit power!
edit: I forgot to post the link for the actual kernel..
http://home.comcast.net/~ibladesi/woahno-it-burns.zip
blended the itsy bitsy asus changes for the big bad .21 kernel (being sardonic).
http://home.comcast.net/~ibladesi/ntrly-wrth-a-ver-bump-v2.zip
I'm going to write a script that will flash the kernel in terminal emulator later on.. thats how I flashed mine.. I'm going to include the texfat and tntfs modules and extract them to the /system/lib/modules directory.. Eventually, I will write a ROM agnostic init script that loads them upon startup.. but now its up to you to load them or write the script.
if you are using netiher exfat or ntfs, you don't need to load them..
if you need more juice for 1.8ghz..
echo 1350 > /sys/kernel/tegra_cap/core_cap_level
or if you want hand warmers..
echo 1400 > /sys/kernel/tegra_cap/core_cap_level
I think, that since this thread was moved.. it should stay here.. Only royalty can post in Development section.
A boost in clock speed could certainly speed up GPS lock down. So a Quadcore 2.0ghz would be beasty!
Nice...be careful not to burn it up!
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A boost in clock speed could certainly speed up GPS lock down. So a Quadcore 2.0ghz would be beasty!
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Nah, at any speed the GPS will still be uhh.. lacking. Boosting the signal beyond regulations might help, or might hurt. Similar to a cable modem's downstream being amplified, if you amplify a noisy line - things usually get worse. In the previous post, I said xmit power, I meant rx. Or wait, is it bidirectional? I digress.
nice... good seeing you here been running your **** on my tf101 since the beginning...
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the GPS is omnidirectional i think
I'd say go for the overclocking.
edit: is there anyway you can make the 1.7Ghz or 1.8Ghz into an apk form to install on stock roms that's rooted? like Dr.Wowe EzOverclock app that enables 1.6ghz by just installing the app.
Also the GPS is from Broadcom, I believe. the exact name and serial # can be found in GPS teardown thread.
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Anyone interested? 1.8ghz was easy peasy. Is this performance gain what you may call negligible? I forgot the file name, otherwise I'd post it. Debating whether or not to do that or not, as this is the first version - plan on going higher. Plus i already work on a kernel for the tf101, might not want to take on too much. Tell me if attached quadrant score is decent. What really makes the difference is usability, I feel that its much quicker - plus it keeps my hands warm, which is great.
My goal is 2.0ghz, I was half joking with 'lilstevie' in the IRC chat when I said 2.0ghz was my oc demands for this new tablet - now, I'm kinda serious. Besides, this thing is still kinda slow compared to... my laptop. Also uses a new power reg.. so the max vcore limit could be higher. Yay. GPS is still a kick in the ****. That reminds me, what is the make/model of the GPS? If we can't boost reception, we can certainly try xmit power!
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that score is decent but I would think you'd score even higher than that. my score on 1.6Ghz overclock is a little lower.
for a beefier overclock, use system tuner pro, then go into CPU tweaks. then set governor to performance. then you could set the min. clock to Max. then now you will be running all 4 cores, at the same time, at 1.8Ghz, Fulltime. I guarantee you will score alot higher than what you posted. it will drain battery faster though..lmao
Here's my score on 1.6Ghz
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Anyone interested? 1.8ghz was easy peasy. Is this performance gain what you may call negligible? I forgot the file name, otherwise I'd post it. Debating whether or not to do that or not, as this is the first version - plan on going higher. Plus i already work on a kernel for the tf101, might not want to take on too much. Tell me if attached quadrant score is decent. What really makes the difference is usability, I feel that its much quicker - plus it keeps my hands warm, which is great.
My goal is 2.0ghz, I was half joking with 'lilstevie' in the IRC chat when I said 2.0ghz was my oc demands for this new tablet - now, I'm kinda serious. Besides, this thing is still kinda slow compared to... my laptop. Also uses a new power reg.. so the max vcore limit could be higher. Yay. GPS is still a kick in the ****. That reminds me, what is the make/model of the GPS? If we can't boost reception, we can certainly try xmit power!
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I'm interested. Be happy to test for you.
Blades said:
Anyone interested? 1.8ghz was easy peasy. Is this performance gain what you may call negligible? I forgot the file name, otherwise I'd post it. Debating whether or not to do that or not, as this is the first version - plan on going higher. Plus i already work on a kernel for the tf101, might not want to take on too much. Tell me if attached quadrant score is decent. What really makes the difference is usability, I feel that its much quicker - plus it keeps my hands warm, which is great.
My goal is 2.0ghz, I was half joking with 'lilstevie' in the IRC chat when I said 2.0ghz was my oc demands for this new tablet - now, I'm kinda serious. Besides, this thing is still kinda slow compared to... my laptop. Also uses a new power reg.. so the max vcore limit could be higher. Yay. GPS is still a kick in the ****. That reminds me, what is the make/model of the GPS? If we can't boost reception, we can certainly try xmit power!
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Haha there is no such thing as negligible when it comes to overclocking brotha! Take it as high as possible. I have already came up with a cooling mod I eventually want to try. I have to see how to take off the mobo though.
How is your stability? How do you increase vcore? I use set cpu stress test and at 1.7 I eventually freeze.
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I'd say go for the overclocking.
edit: is there anyway you can make the 1.7Ghz or 1.8Ghz into an apk form to install on stock roms that's rooted? like Dr.Wowe EzOverclock app that enables 1.6ghz by just installing the app.
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The stock kernel allows for 1.6 that's why an apk works. For it to oc to 1.7 or higher it needs a custom kernel.
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Crank it as high as it can go. Anyone have an idea for how to liquid cool the prime? lol
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Crank it as high as it can go. Anyone have an idea for how to liquid cool the prime? lol
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You could make a case that does something to this effect. Since the backplate is aluminum all you need is some thermal paste between it and the case and it would work decently well. Ideally you'd want to open the Prime and paste between the case and the processor.
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Here's my score on 1.6Ghz
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why oh does my 2d score suck
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why oh does my 2d score suck
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wow! you did another test..lmfao this score is alot higher now.
but yeah, my 2D score is more than double yours even on your 1.8Ghz. even my 3D score was higher than yours on the one test in your OP.
is it possibly because I have a NeoGeo Emulator installed? lol They were the originators and best at 2D graphics (its a joke)
do you think it may be possibly because I have force GPU rendering enabled on 2D applications? its in developer settings in prime. I've been running my prime with this enabled & 1.6Ghz overclock. I bet if you enable it and do another test, your 2D score will be alot higher. This setup makes my prime super fast n fluid. lag free(actually was lag free before that). plus I cut off windows and transitions animation. everything near instant now.
Thank you, running stock volt at 1.8 and everything sweet for now ^.^
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Boo crap poop. My prime doesnt seem to like 1.8ghz, even with the additional voltage. Well best of luck to those with the golden chips.
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Boo crap poop. My prime doesnt seem to like 1.8ghz, even with the additional voltage. Well best of luck to those with the golden chips.
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Yup..not all chips are created equal lol
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Overclocking rocks! Yes, maybe those with open primes could add a passive heatsink to the Tegra 3 CPU. Help cool her down even more. I would think that this would help with the 2.0 ghz goal. Right now its a thin copper tape over it. Add a heatsink with copper tube pasted on chip.
Glad to see you on the prime Blades, love the work you did on the TF101.
Here's my question... Is it possible to make a kernel and just use the companion core as an additional core and have it run all the time? I love having five cores but it almost seems a waste to have one shut down. I understand battery life would go down but it wouldn't bother me if it went from 3-4 days to 1-2 days.
Also, I thought I seen somewhere that manufacturer spec had the companion core at 1.4GHz and the rest at 1.3GHz. Anyway to bump the companion core up to that as well?
I don't know if any of this is possible... Just a thought.
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I officially have the fastest tablet on the planet according to Antutu!!
YES! Sub zero cooling for the WIN!
I forgot to add.... U S A , U S A, U S A!!! LOL
I just added my best CFbench score. This is on 1.7ghz @ 600mhz GPU.
Thanks to Diamond for the wonderful rom.
Thanks to Motley and Shaky for the amazing kernel
Thanks to Droidth3ory for all the work on the phone side of things, without your help and awesome roms I would not be into flashing!
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Congratulations man lol!!
Awesome man!
Maybe we could fab some sort of water to air intercooler. I am sure you could find one easy in NoVa, with all those boosted civics running around.
Thanks, my wife thinks I am the biggest dork in the world.
I was in the kitchen benching and all she heard was F*** YEAAH!!!!! LOL!
EDIT: I think the cooling solution I have (the temporary one atleast) is plenty for benching at 2.0ghz.
Bring it on kernel makers =)
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lol Congrats. I bet you could easily hit 16000. try this and I bet you score alot higher. get system tuner. then go into could tweaks. set the governor there to Performance. then set the min. speed slider all the way up to Max. now you should see all 4 of your CPU maxed out @ 1.8Ghz full time. meaning each core is active @ 1.8Ghz. the regular overclocking doesn't enable all 4 cores to run at once at those speeds. Method I just described will and is why I usually score alot higher than people on same 1.6Ghz clock speed as me. my 2D and 3D scores on quadrant was even higher than that one guy who made the 1.8Ghz available. and that was me still @ 1.6ghz. my 2D score was more than double his @ 1.8Ghz. you can also go into settings, then developer options. then enable the force gpu rendering. that should help increase your scores also.
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Thanks, my wife thinks I am the biggest dork in the world.
I was in the kitchen benching and all she heard was F*** YEAAH!!!!! LOL!
EDIT: I think the cooling solution I have (the temporary one atleast) is plenty for benching at 2.0ghz.
Bring it on kernel makers =)
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Nice! I have my kernel running at 1.8 GHz now. I basically enabled what I had the first time I tried, but now the voltages are the same as my latest 1.7. This time it runs fine. I am a little disappointed that the scores aren't higher though and keep wondering what else is limiting us. Hope to do more study soon. The voltage regulator is keeping us pinned at 1500mV and I haven't tried to up that yet. We don't need it yet...but we will if we want to go higher.
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Nice! I have my kernel running at 1.8 GHz now. I basically enabled what I had the first time I tried, but now the voltages are the same as my latest 1.7. This time it runs fine. I am a little disappointed that the scores aren't higher though and keep wondering what else is limiting us. Hope to do more study soon. The voltage regulator is keeping us pinned at 1500mV and I haven't tried to up that yet. We don't need it yet...but we will if we want to go higher.
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Anyway I could get a copy of your kernel? I am using a different 1.8ghz kernel but I dont think it has the tweaks yours has. Maybe PM it to me if your willing.
EDIT: I wonder if there is a way to make the kernel use 1.6ghz for balanced and then use performance to screw around with. Can I edit this myself motley?
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Just updated with new CFbench score. Will try to go higher with this test kernel, these are just the first few runs I did.
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Sometimes I wonder what our mates who are completely uninterested in technology think when we do something like what the OP said in the kitchen. I'm currently dating a guy who likes to write more than anything else. Writing creatively just isn't my cup of tea. He, on the other hand, is just not interested at all with technology. And somehow we've gravitated toward each other.
He some times give me weird looks when I yell out "****, yeah!" after I've hard modded something or successfully soldered things together that weren't meant to be together and still work. I guess opposites do attract.
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Sometimes I wonder what our mates who are completely uninterested in technology think when we do something like what the OP said in the kitchen. I'm currently dating a guy who likes to write more than anything else. Writing creatively just isn't my cup of tea. He, on the other hand, is just not interested at all with technology. And somehow we've gravitated toward each other.
He some times give me weird looks when I yell out "****, yeah!" after I've hard modded something or successfully soldered things together that weren't meant to be together and still work. I guess opposites do attract.
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My fiance knows how to work a PC because of her job. I got my first PC after we got together 10 years ago (I was 22) and she showed me the basics...then all hell broke loose.
I love anything and everything tech, and have had 5 Android devices since, not including PCs and MP3players,etc and I am constantly showing and telling her about how I have to unlock this,flash this, yadayada, and she always laughs and calls me a dork. BUT, when I bought my Prime, I didn't want her to ***** about me already having a TouchPad, so I bought her a 7" Galaxy Tab, and it turns out a lot of the stuff I showed her actually rubbed off, because she jumped right into Android and loves it.
So, you never know I guess. It's so cool that she understands much of what I tell her about home launchers, apps,Widgets, and Modding now.
Has anyone tried the new gaming benchmark 3DMark? The Galaxy Note II doesn't do too well. More proof that Benchmarks don't really matter, or is the Note II really that bad with gaming?
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Benchmarks don't matter. Period.
I fail to see how the Note 2 is bad at gaming. This thing is a monster at processing data and graphics. Real world performance is what matters. Jelly Bean's Project Butter takes care of it.
EDIT: LOL 'Maybe it's time for an upgrade?' says the benchmarking app...
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Yeah i ran it got 3333 and then uninstalled it
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Have you tried the epic demo, i think it was called epic citadel. Our phone smokes every other phone out.
Felt I should post in here to clear some things up.
I've been working in the computer industry as a hardware guy for about 15 years now and one thing has been consistent almost all the way through: benchmarks matter if used correctly. 3DMark is almost a household name for us PC guys and it has been around for more than a decade. It has always been the go to tool to measure a computers ability to render graphically intensive applications. And their tests are notorious for being particularly brutal when they first launch.
What I'd take away from the Android version of the benchmark is that it just came out and as such is designed to pretty much butcher hardware. So long as we aren't too far off from other high end flagship devices in score then I'd pay it no mind. Now if other hardware is substantially faster than ours then I'd be concerned. The key to benchmarks is that you are running a consistent test that WILL show the performance difference between various hardware configs and software versions. This DOES matter. If it didn't then we could all hold hands and sing songs around a campfire as all our phones are created equal. That's not reality and benchmarks like 3DMark aim to visibly show those differences.
Also keep in mind when they release a build of 3DMark they set it up to be slightly future proof out to about 2 years. This means the program has to be intensive enough that it can still fully utilize hardware that hasn't been released yet and will likely be magnitudes faster than what's in our hands today.
As far as our phones being slow or maybe needing an upgrade, pay no mind. This phone is still top tier today and only a select handful of devices out perform it. But please don't dismiss benchmarks as not mattering. Especially this one. It certainly does matter, maybe not to some people but that doesn't make it any less valid.
Well put. You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. If never understood why people say they don't matter. I'm not big on running or following scores, but I do peek every now and then at the benchmark threads.
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Felt I should post in here to clear some things up.
I've been working in the computer industry as a hardware guy for about 15 years now and one thing has been consistent almost all the way through: benchmarks matter if used correctly. 3DMark is almost a household name for us PC guys and it has been around for more than a decade. It has always been the go to tool to measure a computers ability to render graphically intensive applications. And their tests are notorious for being particularly brutal when they first launch.
What I'd take away from the Android version of the benchmark is that it just came out and as such is designed to pretty much butcher hardware. So long as we aren't too far off from other high end flagship devices in score then I'd pay it no mind. Now if other hardware is substantially faster than ours then I'd be concerned. The key to benchmarks is that you are running a consistent test that WILL show the performance difference between various hardware configs and software versions. This DOES matter. If it didn't then we could all hold hands and sing songs around a campfire as all our phones are created equal. That's not reality and benchmarks like 3DMark aim to visibly show those differences.
Also keep in mind when they release a build of 3DMark they set it up to be slightly future proof out to about 2 years. This means the program has to be intensive enough that it can still fully utilize hardware that hasn't been released yet and will likely be magnitudes faster than what's in our hands today.
As far as our phones being slow or maybe needing an upgrade, pay no mind. This phone is still top tier today and only a select handful of devices out perform it. But please don't dismiss benchmarks as not mattering. Especially this one. It certainly does matter, maybe not to some people but that doesn't make it any less valid.
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This is exactly why I posted. I left the OP vague to spur conversation.
The only thing I found odd is the Note 2 scores at the bottom of the scale, roughly 3300. The HTC One X scores at the top, 11000+. Its a huge gap.
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Yeah i ran it got 3333 and then uninstalled it
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OMG ITS SAPS!
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Definitely not what I want to see. I'm looking to upgrade from my Rezound soon to a N2 primarily for gaming.
Here is my score on my Rezound.
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This is exactly why I posted. I left the OP vague to spur conversation.
The only thing I found odd is the Note 2 scores at the bottom of the scale, roughly 3300. The HTC One X scores at the top, 11000+. Its a huge gap.
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Tegra 3, it has a beast of a GPU. Nvidia has been dominating the GPU market on desktops for years now, it's a known fact that they also dominate the smartphone and tablet scenes as well. If you look around you can see several Tegra3 optimized games that have substantially greater visuals. It is just the way it is. Perhaps the Exynos 5 and Mali 500+ GPU will see a significant increase. I am counting on it.
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Well put. You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. If never understood why people say they don't matter. I'm not big on running or following scores, but I do peek every now and then at the benchmark threads.
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No problem man. I just like to keep things factual.
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OMG ITS SAPS!
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It's me. Finally ditched the fascinate last month. Loving the GN2
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Tegra 3, it has a beast of a GPU. Nvidia has been dominating the GPU market on desktops for years now, it's a known fact that they also dominate the smartphone and tablet scenes as well. If you look around you can see several Tegra3 optimized games that have substantially greater visuals. It is just the way it is. Perhaps the Exynos 5 and Mali 500+ GPU will see a significant increase. I am counting on it.
No problem man. I just like to keep things factual.
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But with most of those tegra optimized games, you can fool them into using the better graphics on a non tegra phone. And it still runs good on my evo 3d and my note 2.
And the note 2 is much closer if not on top on all other graphic benchmarks.
It's been my experience that 3dmark has always shown nvidia products to be faster even though on actual games an ati can have better frame rates. It seems that 3dmark has once again targeted and optimized for nvidia
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Read this:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6875/3dmark-for-android-performance-preview
It will explain why the GN2 does poorly in the GPU tests and excels in the CPU tests.
Play Need for Speed Most Wanted on this thing, it ROCKS!
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Read this:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6875/3dmark-for-android-performance-preview
It will explain why the GN2 does poorly in the GPU tests and excels in the CPU tests.
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Yep good link.
Looking at the CPU tests is more important than the GPU tests for me. Almost everything in Android is CPU bound instead of GPU. It's only when you start playing graphically intensive games that the GPU starts to take a toll. That being said, Samsungs Exynos processors are still imho the fastest chips on the market. Keep in mind that the Exynos 4 is pushing over 2 years old. Look around at other devices/chips that are 2 years old and see how well they stack up against the chip in our phones.
I'm greatly looking forward to the Exynos 5 with the 4 Cortex A-15 cores. That thing is going to be a beast.
Amazing how much better, faster, and smoother it ran on AOSP. My score was over 1000 points higher. I believe I was in the mid 3's with Beans 12 and well over 4k on Carbon. Bummer the battery life is awful on AOSP.
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