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Ok I hope I've finally found the right forum. I was posting in modmymobile and not getting the help I needed. Finally a friend of mine told me about this forum and told me anyone who knew anything about Android posted here. As you can imagine I was on modmymobile because I was a frequent user of modmyi. I am an iPhone guy. An iPhone guy that is DESPERATELY trying to make the jump to Android.
I have my gripes with this phone versus my iPhone 4; for example the iPhone screen makes the Atrix look like a gameboy in my opinion (most notably at off angle viewing) and the build quality is no where near the same. BUT I can already see after 1 day of use why Android is superior. The thing is endless in customization, and for the most part the OS is more functional on every level.
With that said, PLEASE HELP. This fricken phone is supposed to be the fastest thing on the planet and it chugs a long like a snail. For example: If I were to load up a webpage with many pictures, such as phonescoop, and touch the middle of the screen and gently move it in circles, it stutters the entire time. Anytime I am zooming and or scrolling around a page I am constantly seeing stutter. Safari does not do this. I figured it was a browser problem so I tried Opera and Dolphin HD as well. While Dolphin was a bit better, it still does not compare to Safari. Not only that, when I'm scrolling through pictures I've taken its the same thing. Even the settings menu seems to chug!
My only hope is that the bloatware and Moto Blur is what is causing this stutter, so I desperately need help on how to remove any and everything from the phone that is not necessary. Not to mention Moto Blur looks disgusting. Please point me to a tutorial where I can learn how to root (make sure it will allow unroot please) and then please guide me on how to get all this crap off the phone. I think moto Blur is called a "Launcher"? Can you also reccomend the speediest and nicest looking launcher to go with as well.
I really really really want to replace my iPhone with this phone, but if it doesn't make sense I can not make the switch. I am already going to have to deal with the sub-par (in my opinion) screen, but I just can not deal with a laggy phone. What scares me the most is that I had my buddy come over last night that has an Inspire rooted and running at 1300mhz and his browser stutterd just the same. Please don't tell me this is an Android thing, I don't want something so trivial to ruin this for me. I really want to convert. For the record I chose the Atrix not only because of the speed, but because of the webtop and HD dock as well.
Thank you in advance and I hope I can get educated here.
Dolphin browser runs that site very well for me, no stutter as you say.
For a launcher, I'm using Go launcher, and also like ADW, and launcher pro.
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Dolphin browser runs that site very well for me, no stutter as you say.
For a launcher, I'm using Go launcher, and also like ADW, and launcher pro.
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Did you remove blur and replace it with that launcher? In doing that does it remove the bloatware and free up system resources? Id like to make the phone as fast as possible
Err...use the built-in task manager to kill apps that are either taking up CPU (though you're not using them) or a lot of RAM or both. Uninstall stuff you don't need.
Also note that this is not an iPhone, so quitting an app in a normal way (using back button / quit icon if available) is a lot better performance-wise than pressing the home button.
In your browser, close windows you do not need. Really. And switch on "on-demand" flash (it's in the browser options somewhere) so that it only loads flash elements when you click on them.
You could also try Firefox as a browser, it comes with its own engine. All other browsers in Android (afaik) use the built-in webkit engine, so are basically the same thing "under the hood".
Hope that helps. The phone is a beast, but that does not mean that you cannot slow it down
I think its moto's ui that is causing all the problem. Motoblur indeed is disgusting. My android is a mere 1 ghz phone but it does not stutter at all. Atrix is indeed a slow phone not utilizing its dual cores. Ive used my brother's optimus 2x which has the same processor as the atrix and it blew me away with its speed.
when I removed Motoblur and added Miren it got fast
I use Go Ex as a launcher although Gingerbread or Launcher Pro is equally fast. Motoblur is the biggest culprit when it comes to slowing the Atrix down. Miren loads quickly as a browser. I also got rid of apps I do not use and installed Swype beta as well as the Gingerbread keyboard form the market. Additionally I am using three screens and a simple, static wallpaper. I have 15 apps on the dock and use gestures for the dialer and to check the battery. I'm rooted and use setCPU. Functionality is great now. I hope they release the Galaxy S II soon. I can't find much else to do with the Atrix.
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I use Go Ex as a launcher although Gingerbread or Launcher Pro is equally fast. Motoblur is the biggest culprit when it comes to slowing the Atrix down. Miren loads quickly as a browser. I also got rid of apps I do not use and installed Swype beta as well as the Gingerbread keyboard form the market. Additionally I am using three screens and a simple, static wallpaper. I have 15 apps on the dock and use gestures for the dialer and to check the battery. I'm rooted and use setCPU. Functionality is great now. I hope they release the Galaxy S II soon. I can't find much else to do with the Atrix.
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^^ this^^............
Does using a launcher like LauncherPro replace MotoBlur or does it just cover it up and I have to use TitaniumBackup to freeze MotoBlur behind LauncherPro?
DON'T download a launcher, it takes up ram and in overall will suck up ur memory.
What you want to do is just install Adeo and get ur phone deoxed, also remove bloatware, and you're phone will be FAST.
I haven't installed any launchers because they slow, i've tested it with LP and ADW and they don't co-operate too well with Atrix....i'm not sure but it might have something to do with the dual core not running right on the launchers.
I've had my phone constantly on for about 2 weeks now and it's still as fast as when i first booted it up. Also, knowing what ur running will help you understand what is sucking up performance if maybe you're running widgets that refresh every 15 min, it will hog ram.
Motoblur is a pretty good launcher...it just needs to be set up properly.
launcher pro scrolls much smoother than motoblur, and has that little spring effect the iphone does when you scroll between pages, it's excellent.Also, browsing as I've seen has been pretty hit, or miss, but on the xoom, which has the same guts as the atrix, website scrolling is much better. The only difference between the xoom and the atrix is froyo vs honeycomb, so that leads me to think this is a software bound problem.
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launcher pro scrolls much smoother than motoblur, and has that little spring effect the iphone does when you scroll between pages, it's excellent.Also, browsing as I've seen has been pretty hit, or miss, but on the xoom, which has the same guts as the atrix, website scrolling is much better. The only difference between the xoom and the atrix is froyo vs honeycomb, so that leads me to think this is a software bound problem.
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well froyo is not designed for dual core...honeycomb is designed for multiple core usage...if you didn't know the motorola xoom was Google's developer tab for designing honeycomb.
This has to do with the way the android browser renders pages. The Safari browser is GPU accelerated thus, is smooth as silk. The android browser is not (unless you have a Galaxy S I9000 international version). So no matter what you do, the android browser will NEVER be as smooth as Safari until they give it GPU acceleration like the Galaxy. There's only one way to currently have a smooth browsing experience, and that is Opera Mobile 11 beta. However, I tried it on an Atrix and it doesn't seem to work, so I guess you're out of luck there. Again, this doesn't particularly have to do with the Atrix as ALL android phones using the android browser aren't GPU accelerated except for the I9000.
It's something a lot of android users even on this forum will not admit: the android browser is laggy. Sure, it may be quick to them, but if you always have an iPhone next to it to compare to Safari, it'll always lose. Except for playing flash, where it always wins. =)
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For example: If I were to load up a webpage with many pictures, such as phonescoop, and touch the middle of the screen and gently move it in circles, it stutters the entire time. Anytime I am zooming and or scrolling around a page I am constantly seeing stutter. Safari does not do this.
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Safari is a very good browser...so its gona be tough. Root your Atrix through "aroot" and "freeze" your blur apps not remove them.
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use ginger blur and miren browser
so much better
I told you the guys here will take care of you Sean.
Ok heres an update.
So I found out that the firefox browser is by far the fastest browser with almost no lag whatsoever. I found this out before I modded the phone at all. I then rooted the phone and did the adeo modified rom on the phone and installed launcher pro. I also took off my live wallpaper. The only thing I haven't does is freeze all the bloatware. I'm kind of concerned that even though I'm using launcher pro, moto blur is still there and making the phone run slow.
Either way, the phone still chugs like a razr. For example, I took a random picture of my room. I then went into the "Gallery" app and looked at the picture. I zoomed in on it a bit and then dragged the picture around to scroll around and look at it; it chugged along like an NES game!!! It does the same thing while zooming in and out. What is going on!?
If I freeze the bloatware including moto blur, WILL my problem be fixed? I'm desperate.
I've found a thread that shows how to freeze the bloatware. I'll freeze everything including blur while I wait for you guys to respond. If I can't get this thing running up to par by the end of the week I'll need to return it. Which SUCKS because the benchmarks show that this is the fastest phone ever made (in stock form).
And really guys, what are the chances that the phone is only using 1 core because of 2.2? What are the chances that 2.3 will make this thing fly and eliminate the lag I am seeing?
You have to remember I am coming from an iPhone 4, which while not faster at all, SEEMS much faster because everything is so smooth. It seems stupid but I need the UI to be fluid, I won't be able to look past it. Thanks again.
**Are you guys with the super modded, OC phones on the newest versions of Android experiencing UI lag like I've mentioned above?**
More updates haha. Went to the market and downloaded "bloat freezer" and found that i cant use it because my device is not rooted. Looks like i rooted it and then when i installed the modded rom it erased my root or something. And since i dont have my usb cable here at work ill have to wait until i get home and re-root and then use bloat freezer.
Which rom did u install.....gingerblur? If so, it should have rooted it for u. Otherwise do the aroot process again. Then download titanium backup and freeze your bloateare through there.
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Which rom did u install.....gingerblur? If so, it should have rooted it for u. Otherwise do the aroot process again. Then download titanium backup and freeze your bloateare through there.
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Adeo v0.2 is what i have, is gingerblur faster? When i get home ill re-root and start freezing
So I've had my gtablet for a little while and found some things I really like. I'm going to list them, and maybe say why. There are a couple things I couldn't get working. Really though, my purpose with this post is to see if anyone knows about anything really cool I'm missing!!!
The ROM: Calkulin's 1.1 - this ROM has been great. VERY responsive compared to TNT lite, a couple of the CM's, and Vegan that I have tried. I'm also running it with Clem's kernal. Still haven't been able to change anythign to fix the random shut off problem, but it restarts pretty quickly and I'm still getting 10+hrs batt life if I just leave the screen on when I'm at school.
Thumb Keyboard: From the market - this keyboard is awesome. It costs a couple bucks, but it's worth it. The keyboard is optimized for tablet use (ie - letters on the sides, so you're not reaching over the middle). Using it for a week now with no complaints.
ADW Launcher: I paid. Used it on my fascinate. Like it on my tab. Are there launchers optimized for tablets or anything cool/unique?
Hard Keyboard: it's a "genius" USB keyboard. It was 18 bucks. Kids at school make fun of me for having a corded keyboard but I don't care. It's light weight and works well.
Calibration.ini on my SD card. IT'S LIKE A DIFFERENT SCREEN!
Carbon Fiber Pattern Stick on from Ebay everyone else seems to have found. Like it a lot.
Market fix, although once in a while appbrain has an app the market can't seem to find. No real complaints yet though.
My biggest complaint is a widget problem - the Widget for SPRINGPAD does not exist! It's not even on the list. I wish I could find it.
I really enjoy using OFFICESUITE for taking notes in class and it supports keyboard shortcuts like copy/paste, save. 30 day trial is nice, too. RepliGo Reader has been my go-to pdf reader (I read a lot of those in PT school). Alkilido (sp?) Ebook reader is my go-to for ebook readers. Dropbox, and the titanium media sync for dropbox is great! I've been switching between Firefox Browser and Miren Browser for web browsing, but haven't found a browser for the tablet I'm completely sold on.
What i'd really like to find is a stylish looking folding case I've read through the posts and I'm not really excited about anything I've seen on amazon or etsy.
I guess my big question is: am I missing out on anything really cool?
Nice timeline of what you've done. Looks like you've tweaked the system to your liking.
As I thought about things you might have missed, it occurs to me that there isn't any one or several things you just have to do. It's more about the process of tinkering and playing with a new toy.
as for ROMs, I've tried TNTL, Vegan 5.X, and currently Vegan Ginger. They've all been great. Each has their own little quirks, and if you put made me use one or the other, I would be less upset about the actual choice, than the lack of choice.
I guess all I'm saying is just keep tinkering. Make sure you get comfortable with CWM backup, and flash away into new territories.
bah stupid forward button
Only thing I did in addition to those things was d isable the hard menu buttons on the side (I kept hitting them when I didn't want to) using button remapper and used button savior to make software keys that are easy to use.
As far as accessories VS dropped the ball in that area, from what I can see they are getting a nice penny from slapping their name on the tablet and paying for someone to update it a few times and they'll quit supporting it. I don't expect to see any "official" items for this tablet no matter what VS says.
A cool home launcher that's been optimized for tablets is VTL. Check it out in the Gtablet Apps section of XDA. It's based on ADW and is a work in progress but runs really well.
vtl is awesome but it doesnt play nice with caulkins
What is the "calibration.ini" all about? I am running TnT lite (though I an a CM7 fan on my phone), love almost everything but the viewing angles so if you have something that helps I'd love to know about it.
Thanks!
Create a file on the SD card called calibration.ini if you are unhappy about he responsive ness of your screen. I was, and the difference it made was like it became a completely different device!
Better yet, download this App and calibrate at will:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934500
The 'problem' with calibration.ini is that if you leave it on the SDcard, it recalibrates everytime you reboot. Not a problem unless you happen to be touching the screen while it does it!
With this app you can run the calibration at will.
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Better yet, download this App and calibrate at will:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934500
The 'problem' with calibration.ini is that if you leave it on the SDcard, it recalibrates everytime you reboot. Not a problem unless you happen to be touching the screen while it does it!
With this app you can run the calibration at will.
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That's the first thing I tried. Unfortunately, like some others on here, it did not fix the screen at all time. It worked the first day, but not anytime afterward for me. I then tried the .ini file fix, perfect!
I did the ini before I saw an app was released. Deleted after boot n its worked well since but thanks a lot! Can anyone recommend a good mobile web browser? I'm using Miren and Firefox. Tried skyfire and don't much care for the dolphin apps.
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Can you be more specific? I'm running Calkulin+Clemsyn Froyo combo and VTL is included in that ROM. Seems to work as advertised for me.
Great thread OP!
Im running skyfire for now as my browser. Firefox all the way for my macbook and pc! The reviews for firefox in market make me not want to bother. Is it any better than skyfire? Only thing that bugs me is can't delete tabs, you've got to wipe cashed or after a reboot they are gone.
So what's the issue with the calibration of screen? Is this something everyone with a Gtab should do? Only just out of bootup is my screen unresponsive.
EDITI ran it and can now tell a huge difference! Everyone run the app that was posted.
Can't wait to run VTL once launcher widgets work.
Running rockplayer with no more HD playback issues so far (wish VLC would put out an app).
Ive noticed FF renders some pages a little smoother, is a big different from Loren or skyfire. But it takes a little longer to lad.
Hi,
So I just recently got the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I have to say I'm a bit disappointed. I am familiar with Android and I know what I'm doing (or so I think lol) but some things just aren't working and I don't know if it's me or software limitation. Regardless I'm hoping someone can shedd some light on these...
1. The market is lacking a LOT of applications that are available on phones. Is that right? I thought it would just scale for the most part....I can't even find the official Facebook app on the market. Am I looking in the wrong place or something? Hulu? Netflix??
1a. Some applications that I sideload (mainly widgets) like typoclock or something of that sort....install, but when I go to add the widget it is not there, as if never installed. Even when I try to reinstall it, it says that it will replace the old one so i know for a fact that it installs, but the widgets aren't available, and they arent listed in the installed apps drawer either.
2. It seems kind of sluggish...and I really haven't installed much, even from a cold boot...it's kinda laggy, not as quick as I have seen on some review videos. Quadrant scores around 1400-1500. I Rooted it, installed the latest SunBurst ROM and overclocked to 1.4Ghz and it's still laggy often despite nearing 3000 on quadrant now.
3. So I couldn't get any Netflix apk to work on it stock, so once I rooted, installed Sunburst ROM it came installed with a Netflix app, but I don't think it's official since the icon is orange and has a little android on it. Needless to say THAT app doesn't work and CAN'T be installed (I figure it's cooked onto the ROM) regardless I found a Netflix apk that install and replaces it, and works...but after one day it reverts back to the old netflix and doesn't work. So pretty much everytime I want to use Netflix I have to reinstall and overwrite with the new Netflix apk I found...it's annoying. (and the search function doesn't work on that Netflix either)
I know it's a lot to rant about and a lot of issues, and I love the tab and honeycomb, but I can't believe these issues still persist. I hope someone can help me with one/all of these and I will be forever grateful.
Thanks, hope someone can help...
1a. Try a restart after you install a widget. It seems that if the widget is not made for HC, it doesn't appear before you restart.
i tried rebooting but that didn't help any unfortunately...
There's a netflix 1.3 APK somewhere that sideloads perfectly. I haven't tried it with Touchwiz yet - I haven't even touched Touchwiz.
Try stock ROM first. Your ROM might have broken something. I know Bonsai completely broke USB storage support as an example, and Starburst claims to be the "most complete and fastest Touchwiz experience" which means it's going to have missing and broken things. Any ROM dev making claims like that is compensating for something. The "hacked-icon" Netflix app is an obvious sign they went a LITTLE too far.
Netflix sideload works perfectly on my Tab. Unrooted. TouchWiz. Stock.
i tried netflix fix on starburst rom, it did work but reverted back to fcs after a reboot. i switched to bonsai 3, netflix seems to be working fine even after a reboot.
2. It seems kind of sluggish...
The default launcher is a bit sluggish, it is a honeycomb issue. For me I have seen after a "reboot", the tab does take a couple of minutes to "settle", then it is smooth for me, but if you have lot of widgets on your homescreens it will be sluggish, my experience in any case.
thanks to all you guys for all the replies.
As far as the Netflix, I know I do have the correct apk I think the issue is that it isn't playing nice with the one that is baked into the rom. I guess I will have to install another rom.
However I haven't heard anything on the apps, is that right? There's no Facebook? Anyoneelse having issues with Widgets not appearing?
For Facebook search for an app in the market called 'Friend Me'
Looks great and works great =)
for getting rid of sluggishness try this launcher: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188701
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For Facebook search for an app in the market called 'Friend Me'
Looks great and works great =)
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Thanks! Good call, app looks great!
@js931,I'll give that launcher a try and see how it goes.
I understand and feel for you on your problems. My 3rd (and final) Galaxy Tab is on the way to me from Amazon.com. I also have an Asus Transformer on the way as well and the device that gives me the least amount of problems is the device I plan to keep. I want to like the Tab but I don't have high hopes since I'm about to be on my 3rd device. The 2nd one worked perfectly after Touchwiz for a while - even fixed issues I was having such as the typing lag - but the issues I had with the first one (screen and/or Wifi doesn't respond after bringing the device out of sleep) resurfaced a few days ago. The 2nd Tab also had something loose on the inside as it produces a loud rattling noise whenever it vibrates. While that is easily cured by turning off the vibration, I paid $600 for this device and I expect it to be near-perfect. So any little issue I have with this 3rd Tab means it's going back for a refund and I'll keep the Transformer... assuming it behaves like it should, lol.
At any rate, good luck with your issues. The Tab is a beautiful device but seems to be problematic... at least that's my experience with it.
Looks great so far. The Home launcher is much more responsive so I can do away with ADW EX for now.
Kind of wish there were more small apps, but browser, calculator and IR remote are great choices for those and they work terrifically.
What do you guys think so far?
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Looks great so far. The Home launcher is much more responsive so I can do away with ADW EX for now.
Kind of wish there were more small apps, but browser, calculator and IR remote are great choices for those and they work terrifically.
What do you guys think so far?
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When is 4.0.4 coming!!! :-D, so far so good on my end, seems more responsive. WIFI seems to stay on and work a lot better.
Upgraded to ics and my play store keeps crashing. Tried clearing cache and data, then it runs for about 5 min and crashes again...anyone else having similar issues?
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Upgraded to ics and my play store keeps crashing. Tried clearing cache and data, then it runs for about 5 min and crashes again...anyone else having similar issues?
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Just tested Play Store, no issue for me.
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Upgraded to ics and my play store keeps crashing. Tried clearing cache and data, then it runs for about 5 min and crashes again...anyone else having similar issues?
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Uninstall from settings and go in as market... That fixed it for me...
The tablet was initially very laggy after the update but a reboot seemed to fix things, with the exception of the notification menu. It stutters very noticeably and is extremely annoying. Many apps also don't rotate properly anymore.
Still better than Honeycomb despiute those drawbacks.
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DAMN YOU SONY!!!
Things i hate:
- this annoying wifi keepalive issue is still there!!! there is no way to keep wifi active during standby -.- damned why don't they let us users the choice... there IS an option to set the standby behavior but its still completely useless....
- sometimes there are widget issues (doesn't matter if 3rd party or preinstalled) that widgets change into editor mode when just pressing a button like update... changing screen ang going back will fix this temporarily... had this 2 times now...
- auto brigtness issue still not resolved... in low light the screen is MUCH too dark and when changing from full brightess to automatic it keeps full for a while and then goes down to min
- homescreen lag is still too much in portrait
- forced portrait is still not changable (damn i'm righthanded and want to hold it on the ROUND side when portrait is forced!!!!)
- the new ICS launcher... Sonys previous own launcher had a better overview with the sorting possibilities but ok we can have folders now...
- still no thumb keyboard -.-
things i like:
- media from SD card is now directly available and nut just for transfer... finally i have enough memory also without root and mounting stuff ^^
- the new mini-apps are nice but there is still much potential for more apps
- the new version of "Favorites" App is very nice animated and faster
- ICS possibility to deactivate system apps that are not removable... finally i get this google music player away
- a few other ICS related things...
ALL IN ALL this update is a big disappointement... they updated to ICS, integrated one or thwo new features and that's it??? all the big issues are still there since more than six months!!!!!
I have personally had a fantastic experience with the ICS update. Everything seems faster across the board. Menus more responsive, faster browser, better keyboard response/feedback. I also like the ICS look and feel and the mini apps. Really happy with the update so far.
I used to be able to DL directly to my SD Card, and using ES File Manager to move files around. Now it refuses to do so. Anyone else having this issue? If not, what file manager are you using?
My tablet seems to have gone really slow after the ICS update.
I tried a factory restore to ensure that I didnt have too many things installed and decided to start afresh. Didnt help. The tablet is still very slow. While the touch is responsive and I like the features of ICS like slide to dismiss, reading files directly from SD card etc, I definitely donot like the amount of lag I am noticing.
All my apps seem to be really really slow.
My Honeycomb seemed to be far more faster irrespective of all the issues that it had.
Any suggestions anyone?? I am on non rooted US version 16Gb Wifi.
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My tablet seems to have gone really slow after the ICS update.
I tried a factory restore to ensure that I didnt have too many things installed and decided to start afresh. Didnt help. The tablet is still very slow. While the touch is responsive and I like the features of ICS like slide to dismiss, reading files directly from SD card etc, I definitely donot like the amount of lag I am noticing.
All my apps seem to be really really slow.
My Honeycomb seemed to be far more faster irrespective of all the issues that it had.
Any suggestions anyone?? I am on non rooted US version 16Gb Wifi.
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Have you tried going into Settings > Developer Options and tick "Force GPU rendering"?
I'm thinking of buying the sony tablet s. I've read on various reviews that this tablet's battery life is not that impressive (Honeycomb0, is that true? And btw how is the battery life after the ics update? Is there any improvement?
someone can connect tablet with PC on MTP usb
i tried many times but i couldn't
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i havent played around much since the update but the little time i did spend with my tab i found it more responsive and smoother.... i am liking the ics update... dont know why others having issues but i think we should give it a couple of days so that all issues are ironed out....
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someone can connect tablet with PC on MTP usb
i tried many times but i couldn't
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On the first time, it took a while to show up as windows tried to reinstall the drivers for the tablet. Maybe you should keep it connected on USB and wait for a while and see if it shows up?
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On the first time, it took a while to show up as windows tried to reinstall the drivers for the tablet. Maybe you should keep it connected on USB and wait for a while and see if it shows up?
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i'm steel keeping connection but nothing happened
should i try to reinstall drivers forcibly?
I don't understand the problems with wifi-keep-alive.There a apps in the playstore to force this. It worked well for me in Honeycomb.
Same with a thumb-keyboard.
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i'm steel keeping connection but nothing happened
should i try to reinstall drivers forcibly?
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On the first time, it took a while to show up as windows tried to reinstall the drivers for the tablet. Maybe you should keep it connected on USB and wait for a while and see if it shows up?
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sorry, i found it
i just reboot the tablet s and connect again
then it works
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I don't understand the problems with wifi-keep-alive.There a apps in the playstore to force this. It worked well for me in Honeycomb.
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The problem with that app from the market is that it keeps the device awake when you turn off the screen, and it eats through the battery.
On the Android phones I've used (Legend, Desire, Arc S), the WiFi remained connected, but the phone also went to sleep, battery drain was minimal.
This is the behaviour we were expecting to see in the ICS update, but unfortunately it hasn't been fixed...
Hey, i have a 3g tablet, because that i have to wait for upgrading.
But i have an important question for hifi guys: What is with the IR-Remote app...
Are there any changes to the App on Honeycomb?
I bought the tablet for controlling my homecinema an know i want to know if we get makros in the IR-Remote app?
pls check it and give a response to me
Hi u all !
I am one of those that couldn't play any game more than 2 minutes without a crash...
As a last try after months... and before considering a hard reset... I tried something that seems to resolve all my crash problems !
What I did:
- Remove ASUS Task manager widget from launcher
- Remove my normal IMAP mail account
- Remove my work exchange account (Calendar, contacts....)
- Removed Battery Monitor Widget
- Removed System Tuner Pro
- 2 pages totally empty in launcher (the rest with many widgets)
Result (after a reboot):
No crashes at all ! and IU seems way faster (good improvement but not enough for a quad core in my opinion... the IU should fly.... even in economic mode...)
I don't know what of those 3 things did the trick (maybe a mix of them)... anyway no more crashes for me...
Would be nice if more people with crashes (and using any of those things) could try this... Maybe this is the bug so many people have been looking for !
Anyway.... after so many months.... and no way to just be able to use my tablet as it should.... come on ASUS....
Please feedback !
See U !
good observation. ill try one by one. ill start with task manager widget first. don't want to remove my email accounts or my system tuner pro. I have system tuner pro set up to eliminate alot of apps from starting up on boot.
Perfect... Let us know what u find.
I have to say that for my is a complete success !! I am trying one by one all my games (I am even not closing them... just pressing home button) all are working.... no reboot needed.... no crash at all (for now).
I am really happy !
Since I have been playing with the settings in the developer section right from the start and I never experienced any crashes I can not give you any feedback on your finding.
But while using my HTC Tegraphone I discovered what is described in that thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214.
Maybe you check it out and find something that helps you, otherwise I hope you get your crashy Asus resolved soon and someone else can give you additional information.
Good luck
For me, the only crashes i got was due to playing some games while on powersaving mode. The autocontrast or autobrightness (not sure which) that tegra3 forces while on powersaving mode conflicts with a few games.
The screen starts flashing (and the game freezes), and even if you quit the game and re-start, it'll simply crash (force close). You need a reboot.
Istarth said:
Hi u all
Would be nice if more people with crashes (and using any of those 3 things) could try this... Maybe this is the bug so many people have been looking for !
Please feedback !
See U !
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Congratulations....I agree with you. I would be nice if people would try to solve issues themselves before "angrily" blaming ASUS. If they did that, we'd have a much cleaner, more useful forum.
Bob
Istarth said:
Hi u all !
I am one of those that couldn't play any game more than 2 minutes without a crash...
As a last try after months... and before considering a hard reset... I tried something that seems to resolve all my crash problems !
What I did:
- Remove ASUS Task manager widget from launcher
- Remove my normal IMAP mail account
- Remove my work exchange account (Calendar, contacts....)
- Removed Battery Monitor Widget
- Removed System Tuner Pro
- 2 pages totally empty in launcher (the rest with many widgets)
Result (after a reboot):
No crashes at all ! and IU seems way faster (good improvement but not enough for a quad core in my opinion... the IU should fly.... even in economic mode...)
I don't know what of those 3 things did the trick (maybe a mix of them)... anyway no more crashes for me...
Would be nice if more people with crashes (and using any of those things) could try this... Maybe this is the bug so many people have been looking for !
Anyway.... after so many months.... and no way to just be able to use my tablet as it should.... come on ASUS....
Please feedback !
See U !
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1. I'm running mostly stock since I bought the device. Yes, not even rooted. Not using any widget either.... And only using 1 page out of 5. Simply using GMAIL app as well with none being sync. Oh, and I manually update all of my apps from Play Store as well...
Since launch, I have installed exactly... 14 apps. Out of those 14, only 3 were added since .21 f/w update (they happen to be games... Dark Meadow, Sonic, Mass Effect). Out of those 14 apps, only 10 are still installed in my tablet (had to delete Google Chrome to increase browser performance).
I rarely play game on my tablet but this is an issue I recently found out as I wanted to play Sonic. Anyways, with this intro out of the way....
Based on my history, when it comes to gaming issue.... I mostly have problems on Tegra 3 optimized games. Games such as Shadowgun, Sonic, Riptide, Dark Meadow........ I actually haven't had any crash/reboot issue while playing Mass Effect.. yet. However, this is only "one" non-tegra 3 graphic intensive non-tegra 3 optimized games. So, it isn't enough of a "data" for me to say.... "hmm, maybe it is just tegra 3 games" yet.
Would be nice if people with no crashes at all could show us this kind of use feedback:
- Using ASUS Task manager widget in launcher --> YES / NO
- Using normal IMAP mail account --> YES / NO
- Using exchange account (Calendar, contacts....) --> YES / NO
- Using Battery Monitor Widget --> YES / NO
- Using System Tuner Pro --> YES / NO
- 2 pages totally empty in launcher (the rest with many widgets) --> How many pages are full for u ?? all ??...
People with crashes could also report the same... and of course please try to do the same and let us know if It fix crashes !
TY for all the feedback !
shinzz said:
1. I'm running mostly stock since I bought the device. Yes, not even rooted. Not using any widget either.... And only using 1 page out of 5. Simply using GMAIL app as well with none being sync. Oh, and I manually update all of my apps from Play Store as well...
Since launch, I have installed exactly... 14 apps. Out of those 14, only 3 were added since .21 f/w update (they happen to be games... Dark Meadow, Sonic, Mass Effect). Out of those 14 apps, only 10 are still installed in my tablet (had to delete Google Chrome to increase browser performance).
I rarely play game on my tablet but this is an issue I recently found out as I wanted to play Sonic. Anyways, with this intro out of the way....
Based on my history, when it comes to gaming issue.... I mostly have problems on Tegra 3 optimized games. Games such as Shadowgun, Sonic, Riptide, Dark Meadow........ I actually haven't had any crash/reboot issue while playing Mass Effect.. yet. However, this is only "one" non-tegra 3 graphic intensive non-tegra 3 optimized games. So, it isn't enough of a "data" for me to say.... "hmm, maybe it is just tegra 3 games" yet.
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TY for the info !
This "solution" is to fix a little different problem. Is for people like me with crashes in ALL games randomly. ALL !
Of course we could find some games with real problems with prime. At this moment I have no crashes in any game ! Raptide, Sonic, Mass Effect, Dead Space, Dark Meadow, Gof 2, Shadowgun THD......
TY again !
The bottom line is a rewrite is in order to free up the bottlenecks in the T3. Something its very wrong when benches are awesome and real life performance is just so so.
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Task killers could easily cause a system crash...
I don't have crashes, but do see Widgets take a long time to refresh occasionally.
ilostmypistons said:
The bottom line is a rewrite is in order to free up the bottlenecks in the T3. Something its very wrong when benches are awesome and real life performance is just so so.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
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the bottom line is not a blanket fix but rather a "if you have this, then do (or do not do) this." Sorry if you do not agree but my prime works great and yours "just so so" points to you using a software combination that proves unworkable.
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tshoulihane said:
Task killers could easily cause a system crash...
I don't have crashes, but do see Widgets take a long time to refresh occasionally.
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as on every android rom i have ever run i agree widgets are the devil.
Mine is like that already, and I still get crashes with many apps and games.
Pretty much anything that uses a bit more memory and graphics.
Update: Even Market is crashing now... rebooted last night, did not use tablet at all till checking Market just now.
Sorry if this doesn't help for my is working incredible good !
Maybe the reason is a combination of SW... (for me was something of those things).
Anyway It is sad that after a lot of months ROMs are not stable enough... even stock one...
UI is also slow... at least slow considering we are speaking about a high end tablet.
Anyway I am happy... now and after various months... I can use my tablet !
leppie said:
Mine is like that already, and I still get crashes with many apps and games.
Pretty much anything that uses a bit more memory and graphics.
Update: Even Market is crashing now... rebooted last night, did not use tablet at all till checking Market just now.
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Sounds like it's definitely a software issue, try going into settings/apps and clearing market data.
A lot of these sound like typical Android problems that any Android device sees along its lifespan.
OP, this thread was a great idea. I haven't had any crashes but I'm not a big gamer. I would be glad to use your example thread and do trial and error to see what useful data I can contribute to your thread.
Is this only for stock roms, or are custom roms allowed?
well removing the task manager didn't resolve games crashes. I went back to .21(I was previously on new firmware test build) to test this theory out. I'm not going to remove my email accounts. I really love the Asus battery widget but, I will remove it to try out also.
Removing task manager did seem to make things more stable aside from games though. I don't get that stupid message anymore saying task manager has stopped. plus I'm not busy killing stuff on the task manager that pops up. Actually ICS handles the memory manage very well. seems like I have more memory left vs. before when I had task manager up. ill just let android handle the tasks, which it seems to do a great job of.
ill remove battery widget now and see if that helps the gaming issue.
I WILL NOT REMOVE SYSTEM TUNER PRO THOUGH. lol. that app is too valuable and useful. I know that's not the reason. games crashed before I even got it.
All those widgets....
Sorry to disappoint, and please don't flame me but....
I'm running all those widgets with emails and doing heavy gaming and I have no crashes at all. I'm only reporting this cuz you asked someone who has no crashing to post their findings.
I run several Tegra 3 games and have actually never had a crash in 2 months I've had it, other than the obvious "Asus Task Manager quit unexpectidly..."
I've also hopped roms quite a bit. Ran Virtuous a lot simply for the full functionality during school. Then for the last two months, CM9 and AOKP are fully optimized for the most part and I've been back and forth.
And why you say no stable ROMS???? Completely incorrect. I can think of at least five.....
I have no idea of the hell you people are talking about,
First of all I on stock and not rooted, second I run all that stock crap(widgets, managers) + I have over 150 apps installed acording to the play store and I never had a crash unless it was the apps foult. From time to time when I check the memory usage with system panel it gets quite full, but I always seem to have atleast 100-200mb free ram left.I somehow don't play games much, but for example GTA runs like a charm for me. The only way I can make something crash is when I start switching apps like crazy(GTA,Skype,Chrome,Skype,Gta,Teamviewer ect.)
But talking off topic, is there anyway to say repair the glass? I have a nasty scrach on it that I just cant get my eyes off when the screen is off
TechSavvy2 said:
Sorry to disappoint, and please don't flame me but....
I'm running all those widgets with emails and doing heavy gaming and I have no crashes at all. I'm only reporting this cuz you asked someone who has no crashing to post their findings.
I run several Tegra 3 games and have actually never had a crash in 2 months I've had it, other than the obvious "Asus Task Manager quit unexpectidly..."
I've also hopped roms quite a bit. Ran Virtuous a lot simply for the full functionality during school. Then for the last two months, CM9 and AOKP are fully optimized for the most part and I've been back and forth.
And why you say no stable ROMS???? Completely incorrect. I can think of at least five.....
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My prime is not unlocked... I am speaking about ASUS ROMS.
I know there are many people with no problems but at the same time there are many people with problems... Now I am happy because for any reason my ROM is stable... But.... What a nightmare till this moment.... I was getting crashes with ICS all of the time since the first day (prime release in Spain)...
I don't use GPS, Wifi cannot be improved...so I just don't think about it... And I have no browser problems since I use dolphin (the best !) So... The only thing I miss now is a fluid launcher....I am just using 3 pages for widgets, and ui is so slow (more knowing this is a quad core...)... My Sensation moves ui far better... And a are speaking about a sense launcher !
TY all four the info.
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TechSavvy2 said:
Sorry to disappoint, and please don't flame me but....
I'm running all those widgets with emails and doing heavy gaming and I have no crashes at all. I'm only reporting this cuz you asked someone who has no crashing to post their findings.
I run several Tegra 3 games and have actually never had a crash in 2 months I've had it, other than the obvious "Asus Task Manager quit unexpectidly..."
I've also hopped roms quite a bit. Ran Virtuous a lot simply for the full functionality during school. Then for the last two months, CM9 and AOKP are fully optimized for the most part and I've been back and forth.
And why you say no stable ROMS???? Completely incorrect. I can think of at least five.....
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Sorry to hear that... Seems each user (with problems) will need to discover it's own solution.
TY
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