Hi u all !
I am one of those that couldn't play any game more than 2 minutes without a crash...
As a last try after months... and before considering a hard reset... I tried something that seems to resolve all my crash problems !
What I did:
- Remove ASUS Task manager widget from launcher
- Remove my normal IMAP mail account
- Remove my work exchange account (Calendar, contacts....)
- Removed Battery Monitor Widget
- Removed System Tuner Pro
- 2 pages totally empty in launcher (the rest with many widgets)
Result (after a reboot):
No crashes at all ! and IU seems way faster (good improvement but not enough for a quad core in my opinion... the IU should fly.... even in economic mode...)
I don't know what of those 3 things did the trick (maybe a mix of them)... anyway no more crashes for me...
Would be nice if more people with crashes (and using any of those things) could try this... Maybe this is the bug so many people have been looking for !
Anyway.... after so many months.... and no way to just be able to use my tablet as it should.... come on ASUS....
Please feedback !
See U !
good observation. ill try one by one. ill start with task manager widget first. don't want to remove my email accounts or my system tuner pro. I have system tuner pro set up to eliminate alot of apps from starting up on boot.
Perfect... Let us know what u find.
I have to say that for my is a complete success !! I am trying one by one all my games (I am even not closing them... just pressing home button) all are working.... no reboot needed.... no crash at all (for now).
I am really happy !
Since I have been playing with the settings in the developer section right from the start and I never experienced any crashes I can not give you any feedback on your finding.
But while using my HTC Tegraphone I discovered what is described in that thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214.
Maybe you check it out and find something that helps you, otherwise I hope you get your crashy Asus resolved soon and someone else can give you additional information.
Good luck
For me, the only crashes i got was due to playing some games while on powersaving mode. The autocontrast or autobrightness (not sure which) that tegra3 forces while on powersaving mode conflicts with a few games.
The screen starts flashing (and the game freezes), and even if you quit the game and re-start, it'll simply crash (force close). You need a reboot.
Istarth said:
Hi u all
Would be nice if more people with crashes (and using any of those 3 things) could try this... Maybe this is the bug so many people have been looking for !
Please feedback !
See U !
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Congratulations....I agree with you. I would be nice if people would try to solve issues themselves before "angrily" blaming ASUS. If they did that, we'd have a much cleaner, more useful forum.
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Istarth said:
Hi u all !
I am one of those that couldn't play any game more than 2 minutes without a crash...
As a last try after months... and before considering a hard reset... I tried something that seems to resolve all my crash problems !
What I did:
- Remove ASUS Task manager widget from launcher
- Remove my normal IMAP mail account
- Remove my work exchange account (Calendar, contacts....)
- Removed Battery Monitor Widget
- Removed System Tuner Pro
- 2 pages totally empty in launcher (the rest with many widgets)
Result (after a reboot):
No crashes at all ! and IU seems way faster (good improvement but not enough for a quad core in my opinion... the IU should fly.... even in economic mode...)
I don't know what of those 3 things did the trick (maybe a mix of them)... anyway no more crashes for me...
Would be nice if more people with crashes (and using any of those things) could try this... Maybe this is the bug so many people have been looking for !
Anyway.... after so many months.... and no way to just be able to use my tablet as it should.... come on ASUS....
Please feedback !
See U !
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1. I'm running mostly stock since I bought the device. Yes, not even rooted. Not using any widget either.... And only using 1 page out of 5. Simply using GMAIL app as well with none being sync. Oh, and I manually update all of my apps from Play Store as well...
Since launch, I have installed exactly... 14 apps. Out of those 14, only 3 were added since .21 f/w update (they happen to be games... Dark Meadow, Sonic, Mass Effect). Out of those 14 apps, only 10 are still installed in my tablet (had to delete Google Chrome to increase browser performance).
I rarely play game on my tablet but this is an issue I recently found out as I wanted to play Sonic. Anyways, with this intro out of the way....
Based on my history, when it comes to gaming issue.... I mostly have problems on Tegra 3 optimized games. Games such as Shadowgun, Sonic, Riptide, Dark Meadow........ I actually haven't had any crash/reboot issue while playing Mass Effect.. yet. However, this is only "one" non-tegra 3 graphic intensive non-tegra 3 optimized games. So, it isn't enough of a "data" for me to say.... "hmm, maybe it is just tegra 3 games" yet.
Would be nice if people with no crashes at all could show us this kind of use feedback:
- Using ASUS Task manager widget in launcher --> YES / NO
- Using normal IMAP mail account --> YES / NO
- Using exchange account (Calendar, contacts....) --> YES / NO
- Using Battery Monitor Widget --> YES / NO
- Using System Tuner Pro --> YES / NO
- 2 pages totally empty in launcher (the rest with many widgets) --> How many pages are full for u ?? all ??...
People with crashes could also report the same... and of course please try to do the same and let us know if It fix crashes !
TY for all the feedback !
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1. I'm running mostly stock since I bought the device. Yes, not even rooted. Not using any widget either.... And only using 1 page out of 5. Simply using GMAIL app as well with none being sync. Oh, and I manually update all of my apps from Play Store as well...
Since launch, I have installed exactly... 14 apps. Out of those 14, only 3 were added since .21 f/w update (they happen to be games... Dark Meadow, Sonic, Mass Effect). Out of those 14 apps, only 10 are still installed in my tablet (had to delete Google Chrome to increase browser performance).
I rarely play game on my tablet but this is an issue I recently found out as I wanted to play Sonic. Anyways, with this intro out of the way....
Based on my history, when it comes to gaming issue.... I mostly have problems on Tegra 3 optimized games. Games such as Shadowgun, Sonic, Riptide, Dark Meadow........ I actually haven't had any crash/reboot issue while playing Mass Effect.. yet. However, this is only "one" non-tegra 3 graphic intensive non-tegra 3 optimized games. So, it isn't enough of a "data" for me to say.... "hmm, maybe it is just tegra 3 games" yet.
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TY for the info !
This "solution" is to fix a little different problem. Is for people like me with crashes in ALL games randomly. ALL !
Of course we could find some games with real problems with prime. At this moment I have no crashes in any game ! Raptide, Sonic, Mass Effect, Dead Space, Dark Meadow, Gof 2, Shadowgun THD......
TY again !
The bottom line is a rewrite is in order to free up the bottlenecks in the T3. Something its very wrong when benches are awesome and real life performance is just so so.
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Task killers could easily cause a system crash...
I don't have crashes, but do see Widgets take a long time to refresh occasionally.
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The bottom line is a rewrite is in order to free up the bottlenecks in the T3. Something its very wrong when benches are awesome and real life performance is just so so.
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the bottom line is not a blanket fix but rather a "if you have this, then do (or do not do) this." Sorry if you do not agree but my prime works great and yours "just so so" points to you using a software combination that proves unworkable.
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tshoulihane said:
Task killers could easily cause a system crash...
I don't have crashes, but do see Widgets take a long time to refresh occasionally.
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as on every android rom i have ever run i agree widgets are the devil.
Mine is like that already, and I still get crashes with many apps and games.
Pretty much anything that uses a bit more memory and graphics.
Update: Even Market is crashing now... rebooted last night, did not use tablet at all till checking Market just now.
Sorry if this doesn't help for my is working incredible good !
Maybe the reason is a combination of SW... (for me was something of those things).
Anyway It is sad that after a lot of months ROMs are not stable enough... even stock one...
UI is also slow... at least slow considering we are speaking about a high end tablet.
Anyway I am happy... now and after various months... I can use my tablet !
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Mine is like that already, and I still get crashes with many apps and games.
Pretty much anything that uses a bit more memory and graphics.
Update: Even Market is crashing now... rebooted last night, did not use tablet at all till checking Market just now.
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Sounds like it's definitely a software issue, try going into settings/apps and clearing market data.
A lot of these sound like typical Android problems that any Android device sees along its lifespan.
OP, this thread was a great idea. I haven't had any crashes but I'm not a big gamer. I would be glad to use your example thread and do trial and error to see what useful data I can contribute to your thread.
Is this only for stock roms, or are custom roms allowed?
well removing the task manager didn't resolve games crashes. I went back to .21(I was previously on new firmware test build) to test this theory out. I'm not going to remove my email accounts. I really love the Asus battery widget but, I will remove it to try out also.
Removing task manager did seem to make things more stable aside from games though. I don't get that stupid message anymore saying task manager has stopped. plus I'm not busy killing stuff on the task manager that pops up. Actually ICS handles the memory manage very well. seems like I have more memory left vs. before when I had task manager up. ill just let android handle the tasks, which it seems to do a great job of.
ill remove battery widget now and see if that helps the gaming issue.
I WILL NOT REMOVE SYSTEM TUNER PRO THOUGH. lol. that app is too valuable and useful. I know that's not the reason. games crashed before I even got it.
All those widgets....
Sorry to disappoint, and please don't flame me but....
I'm running all those widgets with emails and doing heavy gaming and I have no crashes at all. I'm only reporting this cuz you asked someone who has no crashing to post their findings.
I run several Tegra 3 games and have actually never had a crash in 2 months I've had it, other than the obvious "Asus Task Manager quit unexpectidly..."
I've also hopped roms quite a bit. Ran Virtuous a lot simply for the full functionality during school. Then for the last two months, CM9 and AOKP are fully optimized for the most part and I've been back and forth.
And why you say no stable ROMS???? Completely incorrect. I can think of at least five.....
I have no idea of the hell you people are talking about,
First of all I on stock and not rooted, second I run all that stock crap(widgets, managers) + I have over 150 apps installed acording to the play store and I never had a crash unless it was the apps foult. From time to time when I check the memory usage with system panel it gets quite full, but I always seem to have atleast 100-200mb free ram left.I somehow don't play games much, but for example GTA runs like a charm for me. The only way I can make something crash is when I start switching apps like crazy(GTA,Skype,Chrome,Skype,Gta,Teamviewer ect.)
But talking off topic, is there anyway to say repair the glass? I have a nasty scrach on it that I just cant get my eyes off when the screen is off
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Sorry to disappoint, and please don't flame me but....
I'm running all those widgets with emails and doing heavy gaming and I have no crashes at all. I'm only reporting this cuz you asked someone who has no crashing to post their findings.
I run several Tegra 3 games and have actually never had a crash in 2 months I've had it, other than the obvious "Asus Task Manager quit unexpectidly..."
I've also hopped roms quite a bit. Ran Virtuous a lot simply for the full functionality during school. Then for the last two months, CM9 and AOKP are fully optimized for the most part and I've been back and forth.
And why you say no stable ROMS???? Completely incorrect. I can think of at least five.....
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My prime is not unlocked... I am speaking about ASUS ROMS.
I know there are many people with no problems but at the same time there are many people with problems... Now I am happy because for any reason my ROM is stable... But.... What a nightmare till this moment.... I was getting crashes with ICS all of the time since the first day (prime release in Spain)...
I don't use GPS, Wifi cannot be improved...so I just don't think about it... And I have no browser problems since I use dolphin (the best !) So... The only thing I miss now is a fluid launcher....I am just using 3 pages for widgets, and ui is so slow (more knowing this is a quad core...)... My Sensation moves ui far better... And a are speaking about a sense launcher !
TY all four the info.
Enviado desde mi Transformer Prime TF201 usando Tapatalk 2
TechSavvy2 said:
Sorry to disappoint, and please don't flame me but....
I'm running all those widgets with emails and doing heavy gaming and I have no crashes at all. I'm only reporting this cuz you asked someone who has no crashing to post their findings.
I run several Tegra 3 games and have actually never had a crash in 2 months I've had it, other than the obvious "Asus Task Manager quit unexpectidly..."
I've also hopped roms quite a bit. Ran Virtuous a lot simply for the full functionality during school. Then for the last two months, CM9 and AOKP are fully optimized for the most part and I've been back and forth.
And why you say no stable ROMS???? Completely incorrect. I can think of at least five.....
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Sorry to hear that... Seems each user (with problems) will need to discover it's own solution.
TY
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I've had my Sony Tablet S since the 12/12/2011 and so far have been pleased with it.
Recently though, I've been experiancing lag on the homescreen, despite a factory reset and using other launchers and it wasn't until I read someone's rather harsh comments about it's shape and feel on another forum today, it made me think about returning it.
Does anyone else experiance lag at all, I find that on the lockscreen, when you have to move the little circle across to the out circle, my device does this slightly laggi'ly and the homescreen at times can create lag despite not many widgets.
I've always bought Archos products, had many of them and wanted a change from their new G9 range after seeing a few issues, but with the terrible HD play back and lag of built in media codecs (Yes I know about the other players, but it would be nice if it was all on the default video player) that have I made a mistake in buying it?
The gaming performance on the Sony is simply fantastic, I cannot praise that enough and the Tegra support there, something the Archos cannot do.
Any example of lag, would be coming out of an app like Browser, The homescreen for a few seconds, maybe 5 top is very laggy and then goes.
Many thanks.
er, try another launcher?
ADW, Go Launcher, Launcher Pro....
I've had my tablet s for less than a week, and my experience was also a bit horrible (& my first android device), everything was laggy: lockscreen, homescreen, apps, etc... until yesterday when i checked the installed apps and it turns out the tablet came with 2 versions of the market app, ver. 1.x.x and ver 3.x.x (i have no idea why) but i uninstalled the ver 1.x.x and now its f%$# fast, i doesn't lag at any point (i suppose THAT was the problem & solution).
Im still using normal stock apps and launchers, but maybe you can check that and see if it works for you.
Mine is pretty snappy so I'd say you either have a bad unit or an app causing the problems.. Are you using a task killer? If so delete it immediately as they cause far more problems than good.. Android does a great job managing the OS and task killers often stop processes that are needed.
Maybe try another factory reset and add apps one at a time, use for a bit and if no lag issues arrise add the next app on your list.. Keep doing this until you find the bad or problematic app... If you have lag right after the factory reset with no apps added then you probably have a bad Tablet and I'd exchange for another as defective.
My .02
Weird, I have no problems at all, sometimes when it stas to be a bit laggy, I do a normal reboot, at all goes perfectly normal..
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No problems here... I've had the 32GB version since September.
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This phone ticked the minimum requirements i had when looking for a tablet.
Upon testing the display models of several tablets, the sony tablet was blazing fast against all of them. So from my experience, it is the smoothest I've seen or used.
Thanks guys, I'll take a look at several new launchers and task killers today.
Looks great so far. The Home launcher is much more responsive so I can do away with ADW EX for now.
Kind of wish there were more small apps, but browser, calculator and IR remote are great choices for those and they work terrifically.
What do you guys think so far?
hogaburger said:
Looks great so far. The Home launcher is much more responsive so I can do away with ADW EX for now.
Kind of wish there were more small apps, but browser, calculator and IR remote are great choices for those and they work terrifically.
What do you guys think so far?
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When is 4.0.4 coming!!! :-D, so far so good on my end, seems more responsive. WIFI seems to stay on and work a lot better.
Upgraded to ics and my play store keeps crashing. Tried clearing cache and data, then it runs for about 5 min and crashes again...anyone else having similar issues?
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jbatch said:
Upgraded to ics and my play store keeps crashing. Tried clearing cache and data, then it runs for about 5 min and crashes again...anyone else having similar issues?
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Just tested Play Store, no issue for me.
jbatch said:
Upgraded to ics and my play store keeps crashing. Tried clearing cache and data, then it runs for about 5 min and crashes again...anyone else having similar issues?
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Uninstall from settings and go in as market... That fixed it for me...
The tablet was initially very laggy after the update but a reboot seemed to fix things, with the exception of the notification menu. It stutters very noticeably and is extremely annoying. Many apps also don't rotate properly anymore.
Still better than Honeycomb despiute those drawbacks.
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DAMN YOU SONY!!!
Things i hate:
- this annoying wifi keepalive issue is still there!!! there is no way to keep wifi active during standby -.- damned why don't they let us users the choice... there IS an option to set the standby behavior but its still completely useless....
- sometimes there are widget issues (doesn't matter if 3rd party or preinstalled) that widgets change into editor mode when just pressing a button like update... changing screen ang going back will fix this temporarily... had this 2 times now...
- auto brigtness issue still not resolved... in low light the screen is MUCH too dark and when changing from full brightess to automatic it keeps full for a while and then goes down to min
- homescreen lag is still too much in portrait
- forced portrait is still not changable (damn i'm righthanded and want to hold it on the ROUND side when portrait is forced!!!!)
- the new ICS launcher... Sonys previous own launcher had a better overview with the sorting possibilities but ok we can have folders now...
- still no thumb keyboard -.-
things i like:
- media from SD card is now directly available and nut just for transfer... finally i have enough memory also without root and mounting stuff ^^
- the new mini-apps are nice but there is still much potential for more apps
- the new version of "Favorites" App is very nice animated and faster
- ICS possibility to deactivate system apps that are not removable... finally i get this google music player away
- a few other ICS related things...
ALL IN ALL this update is a big disappointement... they updated to ICS, integrated one or thwo new features and that's it??? all the big issues are still there since more than six months!!!!!
I have personally had a fantastic experience with the ICS update. Everything seems faster across the board. Menus more responsive, faster browser, better keyboard response/feedback. I also like the ICS look and feel and the mini apps. Really happy with the update so far.
I used to be able to DL directly to my SD Card, and using ES File Manager to move files around. Now it refuses to do so. Anyone else having this issue? If not, what file manager are you using?
My tablet seems to have gone really slow after the ICS update.
I tried a factory restore to ensure that I didnt have too many things installed and decided to start afresh. Didnt help. The tablet is still very slow. While the touch is responsive and I like the features of ICS like slide to dismiss, reading files directly from SD card etc, I definitely donot like the amount of lag I am noticing.
All my apps seem to be really really slow.
My Honeycomb seemed to be far more faster irrespective of all the issues that it had.
Any suggestions anyone?? I am on non rooted US version 16Gb Wifi.
intellix said:
My tablet seems to have gone really slow after the ICS update.
I tried a factory restore to ensure that I didnt have too many things installed and decided to start afresh. Didnt help. The tablet is still very slow. While the touch is responsive and I like the features of ICS like slide to dismiss, reading files directly from SD card etc, I definitely donot like the amount of lag I am noticing.
All my apps seem to be really really slow.
My Honeycomb seemed to be far more faster irrespective of all the issues that it had.
Any suggestions anyone?? I am on non rooted US version 16Gb Wifi.
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Have you tried going into Settings > Developer Options and tick "Force GPU rendering"?
I'm thinking of buying the sony tablet s. I've read on various reviews that this tablet's battery life is not that impressive (Honeycomb0, is that true? And btw how is the battery life after the ics update? Is there any improvement?
someone can connect tablet with PC on MTP usb
i tried many times but i couldn't
ics update
i havent played around much since the update but the little time i did spend with my tab i found it more responsive and smoother.... i am liking the ics update... dont know why others having issues but i think we should give it a couple of days so that all issues are ironed out....
taruu said:
someone can connect tablet with PC on MTP usb
i tried many times but i couldn't
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On the first time, it took a while to show up as windows tried to reinstall the drivers for the tablet. Maybe you should keep it connected on USB and wait for a while and see if it shows up?
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On the first time, it took a while to show up as windows tried to reinstall the drivers for the tablet. Maybe you should keep it connected on USB and wait for a while and see if it shows up?
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i'm steel keeping connection but nothing happened
should i try to reinstall drivers forcibly?
I don't understand the problems with wifi-keep-alive.There a apps in the playstore to force this. It worked well for me in Honeycomb.
Same with a thumb-keyboard.
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taruu said:
i'm steel keeping connection but nothing happened
should i try to reinstall drivers forcibly?
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On the first time, it took a while to show up as windows tried to reinstall the drivers for the tablet. Maybe you should keep it connected on USB and wait for a while and see if it shows up?
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sorry, i found it
i just reboot the tablet s and connect again
then it works
macmeier said:
I don't understand the problems with wifi-keep-alive.There a apps in the playstore to force this. It worked well for me in Honeycomb.
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The problem with that app from the market is that it keeps the device awake when you turn off the screen, and it eats through the battery.
On the Android phones I've used (Legend, Desire, Arc S), the WiFi remained connected, but the phone also went to sleep, battery drain was minimal.
This is the behaviour we were expecting to see in the ICS update, but unfortunately it hasn't been fixed...
Hey, i have a 3g tablet, because that i have to wait for upgrading.
But i have an important question for hifi guys: What is with the IR-Remote app...
Are there any changes to the App on Honeycomb?
I bought the tablet for controlling my homecinema an know i want to know if we get makros in the IR-Remote app?
pls check it and give a response to me
Evening fellow SGS3 owners, after having a (and being a die hard) iPhone 4 user. I finally saw the light in in using an operating system that allowed alot more than changin the wallpaper...... anyways I have just got a SGS3 in white which is awesome ^^
Couple of problems though after playing with a friends galaxy S2.
1) I've noticed that when in the app menu there is a tiny bit of lag when flicking through screens. Is that to make the screen flow better? The s2 just flicks through as soon as your fingers move.
Secondly (for any GTA3 lovers out there) I was copmparing my phone to a friends Onex and I have the PS2 textures on my version but he has the Xbox textures on his. Do you think this will get updated as that will bug me.
3) I have had the odd Applciations crash which I have never had before in iOS. Can that be a fault with the phone or is it normal?
4) The gallery app looks Pants compared to the S2 version, is there any way I can make it look the same?
Thanks alot!
Oh and on a side not if I want to change my mind I have a few days to change to a blue one if i prefer but I havent seen one. Anyone got any good piccies?
Jonny
1) Some android phones do some don't, depends on whats running and whats installed. Custom roms should help.
2) The one x has a tegra 3 optimised GTA so it will have the better textures, i don't think the normal version will be updated as the better graphics are exclusive to tegra 3 at the moment.
3) Its fairly normal , in my opinion android apps seem to crash more than on iOS.
If you experience lag a lot or random force closes constantly reboot your phone (may have to more than once). If problems still persist with app force closing then uninstall and reinstall the app, if it still force closes there is a high possibility the app has not been updated to support ice cream sandwhich or possibly the exynos quad core. The gallery app is something you have to live with unless you root (equivalent to jailbreak but at the same time much more) and put stock Google android or someone gets a custom rom and changes the framework of touchwiz. Also to fix your scrolling issue and make you android experience smoother you can download nova launcher or apex launcher from the play store to get the ics Google feel.
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Point 4) install QuickPic from market
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alensw.PicFolder
Is the best picture viewer you can get. It is free.
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3) Its fairly normal , in my opinion android apps seem to crash more than on iOS.
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Actually the statistics show that ios apps crash more often than Android apps. Google it if you don't believe me.
ste1164 said:
3) Its fairly normal , in my opinion android apps seem to crash more than on iOS.
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Why? Because the OS is informing you that it crashed ? On iOS you don't even know this because Apple considered that the user didn't need to know, instead there's a crash report sent to Apple behind your back. Intratech is right, look it up on google and you'll see that iOS apps crash more.
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Hey guys. I believe that the os21 update has a bad memory leak/background processing management(besides a kernal issue). When playing heavy 3d games like Nova 3 or Sonic, the framerates are really slow or stutter a lot until the games force-close. Well, for the past 2 days, I have not had this issue, both Nova 3 and Sonic play with no stuttering at all, and I have not experienced any more game crashes. My browser also seems much smoother. Please try the two fix options listed below, while noting that the 2nd option seems to work best with mass Efeect, and less "strict" on runnig processes than the first option:
Fix #1- What I did was push the soft reset button on the Prime (using a small paperclip), then waited for the Prime to reboot. Once it rebooted, DO NOT let the Prime load up anything, just immediately go into settings, developer options, select the kill all activities option, then for background processes, select "at most 1 process only" Delete all of your running task managers/task widgets an that's it. Now all of my games run, no crashes, and the framerates for Nova 3 and Sonic is MUCH better.
Fix# 2 - For those still having issues with Mass Effect, this alternate setting will definitely fix the problem. After soft rebooting, go into development settings, and then for background processes, select "at most 1 process only" and DO NOT select kill all processes after leaving them. This setting has been confirmed to fix the Mass Effect issue, as well as all other games while still keeping the Prime running a lot smoother.
Please try using the exact instructions that I have posted, and let me know if this works for you guys. If so, then it proves that the os21 has a memory management issue which is causing all the current issues we are having.
Also, I would like to share this post from Jaycustom, whom has also been using this method for a few days now and enjoying it more than myself lol. He ran a CPU test to test the differences before and after my fix. See his results below:
Default settings said I had about 19 user/ 29 system processes running.
Dev settings gave me 14 user/ 11 system processes running.
Default settings for system memory 600+mb used/300+ free
Dev settings for system memory 300+ used/600+ free
The memory usage was pretty much exactly reversed! So I assume this is where most, but not all, of the performance boost comes from. CPU usage was also lower, not by much though.
See the video that I made (link below)showing me using the default browser, which is now really fast and stable using this method. I also ran Mass Effect 3 and Nova 3 to show that I have no issues playing these games anymore. I used a Samsung Galaxy tab to record, so please re-frame from laughing at the quality of the vid lol! If you guys would like me to try more games/apps, please let me know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iperCmEH4t4&feature=youtu.be
Thanks guys
Nova 3 is still freezing and crashing, frame rate is still same.... I think tehere is no solution untill FailLoft will update the app for tegra 3.
mibo666 said:
Nova 3 is still freezing and crashing, frame rate is still same.... I think tehere is no solution untill FailLoft will update the app for tegra 3.
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Sorry to hear that it didnt work for you, but it seems to have resolved the issue for me entirely. I am not exeriencing any more gam crashes or white flashing screens. Are you sure that you followed the stes listed? Waiting for others to rely, but either my Prime just decided to play all my games correctly, or this is "fix" is working for me.
This is not an acceptable fix, it is only a workaround.
leppie said:
This is not an acceptable fix, it is only a workaround.
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Yes I agree 100%, but it works. At least we can play some of our games/browse without issue until the fix comes out. Did you try it, and did it work for you?
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Yes I agree 100%, but it works. At least we can play some of our games/browse without issue until the fix comes out. Did you try it, and did it work for you?
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I'll have to try this out tonight. To clarify, when you say "do not let it load up anything", do you just mean go into the settings as soon as possible and kill things? It must start running services as soon as it boots, no? I guess this just minimizes the "damage"?
Hi, I've just tried this and it doesn't seem to have had much of an effect I'm afraid.
In the last 10 mins I've still had two spontaneous browser shutdowns, plus crappy streaming video playback from sites such as bbc iplayer.
The pages seem to load a little faster and scrolling may be a touch smoother but thats about it the best I can say.
This solution works well for me. I have been doing this for some time, except I have limited the processes to three. Limiting it to one seems to improve it even better. Widgets seem also to be a drain on the resources and limiting those works well for me. Much thanks for the post.
You might also try this solution from here post #118 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681469&page=12
It seems to have worked for me, I've only had one reboot since. It's at least worth a try. Good luck.
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I'll have to try this out tonight. To clarify, when you say "do not let it load up anything", do you just mean go into the settings as soon as possible and kill things? It must start running services as soon as it boots, no? I guess this just minimizes the "damage"?
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yes exactly.. this is the way it worked for me. Just immediately go into setting, and select the options that i listed. This will only allow the essential programs to run. Please let me know if this works for you. Also, switch the prime to performance for graphic heavy games. Still testing this, but so far I have not have any crashes since applying.
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This solution works well for me. I have been doing this for some time, except I have limited the processes to three. Limiting it to one seems to improve it even better. Widgets seem also to be a drain on the resources and limiting those works well for me. Much thanks for the post.
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Thanks for confirm this. Yes, my Prime is no longer lagging when browsing or crashing during gameplay..the difference is honestly night and day. Just confirms for me that .21 is not handling the background processes, or closing them correctly.
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Hi, I've just tried this and it doesn't seem to have had much of an effect I'm afraid.
In the last 10 mins I've still had two spontaneous browser shutdowns, plus crappy streaming video playback from sites such as bbc iplayer.
The pages seem to load a little faster and scrolling may be a touch smoother but thats about it the best I can say.
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Hey, do you happen to have the sticky player app installed by any chance?
No I've never used sticky player app.
I've been toying with the idea of factory resetting and trying this. I'll see how it goes tonight
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No I've never used sticky player app.
I've been toying with the idea of factory resetting and trying this. I'll see how it goes tonight
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you shouldn't have to factory reset, that would suck
Can you try the soft reset option again? Once it's done, update the setting as listed and try the Prime on performance mode. If that doesn't help, then you may have a bad app which is hogging on your resources and causing the slowdown/crashes.
This procedure also seems to improve on the strength of the Wi-Fi signal. At least on mine it does.
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This procedure also seems to improve on the strength of the Wi-Fi signal. At least on mine it does.
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Maybe it's just because the Prime is loading pages a lot faster because there aren't so many things running in the background now. it would be cool though if this also fixed wifi, maybe someone should do a speed test for before and after the fix?
I just tried the default browser again. It does not lag/stutter when scrolling through the pages anywhere near like it used to. it's not as smooth as opera mini, but it's a LOT better than before. Still no game crashes at all since doing this. I can post vids for anyone who would like to see proof after work.
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you shouldn't have to factory reset, that would suck
Can you try the soft reset option again? Once it's done, update the setting as listed and try the Prime on performance mode. If that doesn't help, then you may have a bad app which is hogging on your resources and causing the slowdown/crashes.
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I was gonna do one anyway, just to start from scratch with a blank slate and get it set up how I want it!
After resetting, and before any apps are downloaded the browser is working much much better once the settings you recommend are applied. Loading and scrolling is faster and there have been no force closes or video hangups.
Cheers, I look forward to this .28 update but thats helped me out a lot in the meantime!
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I was gonna do one anyway, just to start from scratch with a blank slate and get it set up how I want it!
After resetting, and before any apps are downloaded the browser is working much much better once the settings you recommend are applied. Loading and scrolling is faster and there have been no force closes or video hangups.
Cheers, I look forward to this .28 update but thats helped me out a lot in the meantime!
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Great to hear! yes, my Prime seems much quicker with touch inputs, scrolling, gaming and web browsing. Must of been a bad memory issue along with the kernel for .21.
just did this ans seems to work very well. i was getting around 12-15mbs and now im getting 32mbs in the garage with only 1 bar. im very happy with that. thanks for sharing.
Hello all. I've had the nexus 7 and was pleased with the consistency of the tegra 3 but it was old and outdated. Oposite of the 7, I've found that the 10 is crazy fast yet so inconsistent its ridiculous. I'll be impressed by how fast it is. Then all of sudden I'm frozen and have to hold down the hard reboot buttons. I love the nexus 10.... But the tegra is by far more consistent.... Anyone without these issues?
My Nexus 10 is better than your tablet. Hah.
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Hello all. I've had the nexus 7 and was pleased with the consistency of the tegra 3 but it was old and outdated. Oposite of the 7, I've found that the 10 is crazy fast yet so inconsistent its ridiculous. I'll be impressed by how fast it is. Then all of sudden I'm frozen and have to hold down the hard reboot buttons. I love the nexus 10.... But the tegra is by far more consistent.... Anyone without these issues?
My Nexus 10 is better than your tablet. Hah.
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Hi,
Ive never had any problems with my Nexus 10 so far. I never had random reboots (AFAIK) the only reboots I had was on Firefox Beta trying to run some flash videos but so far thats it. Its been smooth sailing for me. :good:
Since I turned off Google currents background sync and switched from chrome to AOSP browser I've found performance to be pretty much perfect. I've found a few specific apps that don't work well on the n10. ITV player is probably the worst one, just locks up the n10 and stops the lock screen from working properly, either have to reboot or start up Google now from the lock screen and kill ITV player from there. But most other stuff seems to work really well, even games like GTA Vice City run at max settings (which I know others have had problems with) without a problem.
Mine runs perfectly pretty much 100% of the time. Fastest tablet I've ever used. Pretty much flawless. I've also disabled Google Currents and I'm using Ocean Browser (which is essentially AOSP but you can install it from the Play Store and on non-rooted devices).
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Since I turned off Google currents background sync and switched from chrome to AOSP browser I've found performance to be pretty much perfect. I've found a few specific apps that don't work well on the n10. ITV player is probably the worst one, just locks up the n10 and stops the lock screen from working properly, either have to reboot or start up Google now from the lock screen and kill ITV player from there. But most other stuff seems to work really well, even games like GTA Vice City run at max settings (which I know others have had problems with) without a problem.
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Is there a guide to install the AOSP browser somewhere? I'd install CM 10.1 but wiping will be a pain and I don't really need any extra feature right now (I'm already rooted)
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Is there a guide to install the AOSP browser somewhere? I'd install CM 10.1 but wiping will be a pain and I don't really need any extra feature right now (I'm already rooted)
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There is a flashable zip in this thread
Ditto... Since ditching Chrome for AOSP, I really have to work hard to get this thing to flinch, specifically. It did get pissed OCed to 2100; very stable from1700-2000. On craigacgomez AOSP+.
Throw cm10.1 on that puppy. Bye bye daily hangs and reboots.
I've had the same experience with Chrome
I've loaded Dolphin and Firefox and those work fine. Chrome just occasionally hangs and if I don't close the offending tab soon enough, I have to hard crash the tablet.
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Mine runs perfectly pretty much 100% of the time. Fastest tablet I've ever used. Pretty much flawless. I've also disabled Google Currents and I'm using Ocean Browser (which is essentially AOSP but you can install it from the Play Store and on non-rooted devices).
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Yup.....
None here at all, I've got both the N10 and N7.. I also disable stuff like Currents I don't use thru settings and fix permissions both are absolutely smooth and a pleasure to use
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None here at all, I've got both the N10 and N7.. I also disable stuff like Currents I don't use thru settings and fix permissions both are absolutely smooth and a pleasure to use
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I like the matching wallpapers man. Nice touch.
My Nexus 10 is better than your tablet. Hah.
I've so far turned the currents thing off. I really like chrome sync so I'm gonna stick with chrome... Anything else to help performance? I'm not really interested in doing any kernel installing or such.
My Nexus 10 is better than your tablet. Hah.
I've had 2-3 daily reboots at varying times (not just Chrome, also play store, pulling down a notification, opening google maps), but they've all gone since I changed my wireless router and disabled location requests. I'll turn location requests on in a few days and see how that affects things, I had another tablet (Archos spit spit) which used to crash a lot on a certain wireless router and never on another so I'm not discounting the wireless router being involved.
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I've so far turned the currents thing off. I really like chrome sync so I'm gonna stick with chrome... Anything else to help performance? I'm not really interested in doing any kernel installing or such.
My Nexus 10 is better than your tablet. Hah.
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Why? A kernel is you best fix for performance problems.
You can also not use Live Wallpaper, as that can cause lag in games.
Another thumbs up for ocean browser. I've found it to be much faster than any of the other browser's I've tried.
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Another thumbs up for ocean browser. I've found it to be much faster than any of the other browser's I've tried.
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Same I use ocean browser as well no problems.
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...You can also not use Live Wallpaper, as that can cause lag in games.
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This. I was actually pretty amazed to find this out; kind of figured the wallpaper to not impact system performance at all... when it wasn't being shown. But alas, that's not the case... Had some horrible FPS in NFS:MW, but after disabling my live wallpaper, FPS shot right up
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You can also not use Live Wallpaper, as that can cause lag in games.
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A live wallpaper is a type of service which is started when your home screen is showing. It is only consuming CPU resources until you switch to another app, as the service is halted at that time.
caveat: it's possible that some n00b developers don't stop drawing in onVisibilityChanged, if so, for shame
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A live wallpaper is a type of service which is started when your home screen is showing. It is only consuming CPU resources until you switch to another app, as the service is halted at that time.
caveat: it's possible that some n00b developers don't stop drawing in onVisibilityChanged, if so, for shame
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The Live Wallpaper I was using was Lonely Tree Live Wallpaper. If the developer isn't stopping drawing, I would hope it's a somewhat easy fix, or at least toggleable option.
Edit: I sent the developer an email, and got a response:
Some users have been reporting higher CPU usage than there should be. I think you might be right about it not shutting down properly.
I'll try to get it fixed ASAP. I think i know what change may have caused it.
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