[Q] Best Method to use to Update Kernel and Rom - HTC EVO 3D

What is the best method to use to update Kernels and ROMs?
I'm using Flash Image to flash the Kernel and TWRP to flash the ROM but I see alot of other methods out there not sure what the best is to use?

Just and FYI I use the HTC unlock method with S-on

I've been using ClockwordMod for 6 months now and have had no issues. It always works just fine for me. I see other people who say that TWRP is the best, but have yet to understand or see anyone give a good reason as to why it is better. I've thought about installing TWRP, but since Clockwork has worked great for me, I don't see the benefit unless someone can enlighten me?

I use twrp 1.1.1 its my favorite one of all and I tried all of them. You can flash multiple zips all at 1 time. Im on hboot 1.5 so I always fastboot into recovery so I know kernel will stick. Some roms out there will not flash unless you use twrp 2.0 you just have to read devs OP's thoroughly.

Jabawockee said:
I use twrp 1.1.1 its my favorite one of all and I tried all of them. You can flash multiple zips all at 1 time. Im on hboot 1.5 so I always fastboot into recovery so I know kernel will stick. Some roms out there will not flash unless you use twrp 2.0 you just have to read devs OP's thoroughly.
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I agree with Jabawockee. I've tried them all and 1.1.1 is great but for just flashing a different kernel i use gui and to just flash mods I was gui to flash my recovery then reboot into recovery and flash my mods.

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TWRP & Rom Manager

I recently rooted my phone and flashed the TWRP recovery for it as it was recommended on IRC. One of my favorite apps when I had my rooted 4G was Rom Manager. It allowed me to easily backup and flash roms whenever I pleased.
Is there something similar to that for TWRP? Rom Manager requires having Clockwork Mod recovery to use. Also what are the advantages / disadvantages if any to either recovery?
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I like doing everything manually from recovery myself. The advantages of TWRP of CWM is the ease of access of certain options in the menus. I love having the wipe cache and dalvik cache as an option in the install zip menu. You can also change the theme easily. I like the backup options in the Nandroid menu and the fact that it backs up your wimax partition. There are many advantages in TWRP over CWM imo. It is designed for the Evo 3D natively and CWM is a port, so it's options are not designed for the Evo 3D. TWRP is just laid out better and you don't have to scroll through the work no 8 times just to wipe cache. Rom Manager is nice, but even when I did use CWM on my NS4G, I never, ever used the app because I just feel safer doing things manually.
All this is a matter of opinion, so it ultimately is up to you. Maybe the ultimate and best reason to shoose TWRP over CWM is because when you go into the Wipe Menu there is a roll of toilet paper in the background.
There working on something similar to rom manager
Instead of making a new thread ill go ahead and ask here. I'm currently doing a Titanium Backup of my apps / data. I'm also going to do a nandroid backup using TWRP since I've decided to dive into a rom. Are there any other recommended steps I should take before I flash? I hear talk of kernals but know nothing about them.
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To be more de specific this is the rom I plan on using.
[ROM][8-21-11][2.3.4] gbsense-e3d-deck [0.5]
I read in his thread there was only 2 kernals for 2.3.4, stock and another custom that's floating around.
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If you are going to a 2.3.4 Rom I would stick with the stock kernel that comes with the Rom for now. Until HTC releases the source for the 2.3.4 kernel we won't have any custom kernels to flash. I would suggest searching here and on Google what is a Linux kernel and what benefits a custom kernel can give you in Android.
Also, if you flash an incompatible kernel it will at least break things like wifi, sms, mms and other functions of the phone and at most completely make your phone unbootable and you will have to nandroid restore.
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If you are going to a 2.3.4 Rom I would stick with the stock kernel that comes with the Rom for now. Until HTC releases the source for the 2.3.4 kernel we won't have any custom kernels to flash. I would suggest searching here and on Google what is a Linux kernel and what benefits a custom kernel can give you in Android.
Also, if you flash an incompatible kernel it will at least break things like wifi, sms, mms and other functions of the phone and at most completely make your phone unbootable and you will have to nandroid restore.
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So in other words i can just flash this Rom and i'm good to go.
Yep. The Rom's always include a kernel. If you want a custom kernel, that is a separate flash. Some Rom's include a custom kernel and some include stock kernels. I will say that I am using a Rom based off the HTC 2.3.4 update and has the stock kernel and it is actually very smooth and runs fast. I really am not sure overclocking is necessary on this phone, especially after all of the Sprint and HTC bloat are taken out. Though I can understand why people want and do overclock, but seriously benchmarks don't mean shiz to me. How the phone runs in real time use and how the battery performs are my greatest concerns.
I had the same question as the OP. It looks like i won't be using rom manager. Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
meccadon123 said:
I had the same question as the OP. It looks like i won't be using rom manager. Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
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curious about this too, i've searched here and googled with no luck. everything i find only explains step by step with rom manager/clockwork
i'm assuming you just enter recovery, select install zip -> choose zip to flash -> select your custom rom.zip from the list and then let it do it's thing.
just want to be sure so hopefully someone can confirm or post proper steps.
meccadon123 said:
Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
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finally found someone who would actually respond. not step by step per say, but i you read this post you should get the idea
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16982135&postcount=4402
meccadon123 said:
I had the same question as the OP. It looks like i won't be using rom manager. Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
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jorts said:
curious about this too, i've searched here and googled with no luck. everything i find only explains step by step with rom manager/clockwork
i'm assuming you just enter recovery, select install zip -> choose zip to flash -> select your custom rom.zip from the list and then let it do it's thing.
just want to be sure so hopefully someone can confirm or post proper steps.
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Assuming you already have S-OFF you just need this file http://www.techerrata.com/android/twrp/PG86IMG-twrp-shooter-1.0.3.zip
*Download flashable zip from the OP and rename it "PG86IMG.zip" (without the quotes)
*Place in the root of the sdcard
*Power off phone (make sure you turn off hot boot or pull the battery when it's off)
*Power on the phone holding power and volume down
*Follow the prompts to flash it
*Delete .zip (PG86IMG.zip) after booting
*Enjoy
(Credit to ViViDboarder)
If you have any other questions head to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077

Kernel Help Please!

my evo 3d GSM is unlocked, with s-off and it is rooted. it also has CWM recovery on it. I am a noob when it comes to kernel flashing so i need help. i understand the basics of how to flash but when i try to flash either Leedroid's kernel or unity v3b kernel i get the same error message in CWM something about status 7. i did some research and found out that this comes from the phone trying to put the boot image where it isnt supposed to go, i believe that this problem is coming from the fact that i used the revolutionary tool to s-off my device and then it asked if i wanted to flash CWM right then and there... so i did that, rather than the traditional way. please if you have any help in this matter let me know and i just want the kernel, i am not interested in any ROMs. ALSO i would like to keep all of my data so no sd wipe-age please, im fine with cache wiping. please help me install this kernel.
Try using Flash Image GUI to flash your Kernal,
http://tinyurl.com/cxkwcpj
thank you it worked!

Teamwin

Does anyone have a copy of teamwin recovery 1.1.1 I've tried getting it from the site but no go I don't know if it matters but i have hboot1.5
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Have you tried this link on the site?
Under: PROJECTS (Tab) -> TWRP -> TWRP 1.x
http://teamw.in/project/twrp/67
Why wouldn't you want the latest one or latest with Dumlock?
I heard bad things about the newest is it ok ,dies flash GUI do a good job flashing recoverys
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Flashimage works well for flashing recoveries and kernels before a ROM. I've used it and it works well & as advertised, but u can't just enter recovery to restore a backup with it (need fastboot). I've used Cwm 4.0.1.4, Cwm Touch 5.0.8.2 (no usb mount/charging), and TWRP 2.0RC1 (with & w/o Dumlock).
Now, imo, I don't prefer to rely on FlashImage with S-On and think that all new HTC Unlocked/S-On users need to get experience flashing & booting to recovery via fastboot command prompt. This avoids most of the issues people experience like "my phone boot loops" & "flashed rom, now my phone stuck at white screen" etc. If ur using the correct fastboot commands all the recoveries I mentioned work pretty much the same minus the Touch features.
People run into problems not fully understanding these "workaround apps" (flashimage & Dumlock) even though the directions are well written. I just think some newcomers jump on these shortcuts and end up back to using fastboot anyway.
Currently I am using the TWRP 2 w/Dumlock and like that I can flash w/o fastboot (& restore nand backups too). If u don't follow steps correctly u can screw ur boot and have to use fastboot to reload recovery & restore backup. Other than fastbooting to recovery its the only way to fully restore a nand backup (b/c kernel flash). Note: u don't have to use Dumlock, but its part of the newer version if u want to.
I personally like the Touch screen version of Cwm & haven't had any issues other than the Usb issues I mentioned. I may give the Universal Dumlock option a go since it can be used with Cwm, but it won't be baked into the recovery. Also, I read that Agrabren left Team Win so future development of TWRP may be limited.
There's a lot of opinion in my post, but I hope I answered your question.
I'll also point out my guide/flashing notes & ROM/recovery issue (scenarios) in my signature have some detailed examples of what I did when using / flashing roms etc.
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Can't Install ROMs after updating to TWRP 2.5.0.0

Hello! So after I updated to TWRP 2.5.0.0, I am unable to flash 4/5 of the roms that i have downloaded. I was able to flash AOSP and the new one that NEWT released, but I can't get any others to. Is it directly because of the recovery? Is there a more preferred version I should be using instead? Would this be a good time to transfer to Amon Ra? :fingers-crossed:
I flashed Amon Ra and I was able to get my other roms back on again...phhhew. I dislike Amon Ra since it is not touch-based, but a lot of devs seem to prefer it. Is there a reason for this?
Have a little test for you, if you don't mind taking the time to do so;
Flash ViralOTA twice(I know you have a copy of it ). Once on AmonRA and once on TWRP.
pogibry said:
Hello! So after I updated to TWRP 2.5.0.0, I am unable to flash 4/5 of the roms that i have downloaded. I was able to flash AOSP and the new one that NEWT released, but I can't get any others to. Is it directly because of the recovery? Is there a more preferred version I should be using instead? Would this be a good time to transfer to Amon Ra? :fingers-crossed:
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There's no reason to upgrade to the latest and greatest recovery if you have one that works already, I'd revert back to whatever version of TWRP you had before...
That's a good point that I never considered. I eneded up going with the newest Amon Ra and it worked. Thank you for your advice! :highfive:
Snuzzo said:
Have a little test for you, if you don't mind taking the time to do so;
Flash ViralOTA twice(I know you have a copy of it ). Once on AmonRA and once on TWRP.
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lol I think I just might. Watch it be an uber obvious reason that slaps me right in the face :facepalm:
twrp updated to use the newest binarys. rom devs must do the same to be compatible.

Need help TWRP

Keep getting install failed /system and /data. No os found
what ROM are you trying to install? how did you install TWRP?
by the way, the way it works on this phone is that the recovery is packaged with a kernel. whatever the kernel has, you're stuck with. unless you flash a kernel that has an alternative recovery (example: one of hhp's Devil TWRP kernels) you can't just flash a recovery. so maybe you have a bad flash if you tried doing that.
Also you need to quit spamming every spot in the fascinate fourms.
there are only maybe a dozen of us real active, we can read your posts.
I've explained over and over the process,
Keep on reading, reading and then read some more.
Very thankful for all the help
hhp_211 said:
Also you need to quit spamming every spot in the fascinate fourms.
there are only maybe a dozen of us real active, we can read your posts.
I've explained over and over the process,
Keep on reading, reading and then read some more.
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sorry i was getting desprate. I apologizes.
is their a radio that can boost the 3g reception? (besides the one's in the guide)
that cm-11 rom runs super. i installed JB then the cm-11.
have a question about kernels but going to read up first about them,
Sorry for the spamming.
Thanks for the help btw
skepticmisfit said:
what ROM are you trying to install? how did you install TWRP?
by the way, the way it works on this phone is that the recovery is packaged with a kernel. whatever the kernel has, you're stuck with. unless you flash a kernel that has an alternative recovery (example: one of hhp's Devil TWRP kernels) you can't just flash a recovery. so maybe you have a bad flash if you tried doing that.
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I was trying to install pa_fascinatemtd-4.2-BETA1-20140318.
i tried to install TWRP through CWM. But when i used ROM manager to select recovery 3.x and it detected TWRP. i installed JB from avatar then flashed cm-11-20140221-UNOFFICIAL-fascinatemtd and PA__Gapps after factory/reset and dalvik wipe. but the menu was from cwm4_fixed_for_cm7-ODIN even though ROM Manager said TWRP recovery
right now running
Android 4.4.2
Band EH3
Kernel version 3.0.101-ge40c0be don't know which kind it is. don't know if it install from CM-11 or the avatar rom i first installed.
doing research on kernels and radio to see if there is a radio that can boost 3g connction
jgmedina said:
doing research on kernels and radio to see if there is a radio that can boost 3g connction
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there are a few radios for the fascinate. the gingerbread radios are EH03 (the one you have right now from the official VZW OTA, i use this one and am ok with it), EC09 (from an old gingerbread leak, some people prefer this radio over the others). i know there's other radios but the only older one you should probably use is ED05 from an old Froyo OTA.
thanks. this upgrade help alot though. have to test yuoube app.also was having issue with that too.

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