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Hi, I have a HTC Pro for sprint, I love everything about it except the battery cover and volume buttons.
The cover creaks, and makes a ton of sound if I try to use the keyboard, one corner is loose, and I believe thats where the sound comes from.
Also the volume keys are hard to use and they sound more like creaking plastic, I cant even tell when it is actually clicking.
Anyone else have this problem? Mine has been like this since day 1.
Any fixes?
I was about to say "Perhaps you have a defective machine, as I also have a Touch Pro from Sprint and have not really noticed this problem" and then I picked it up... top corner as in the back cover right behind about where "Sprint" is printed on the front? Mine actually makes creaky noises there, too... with a bit of push.
I honestly don't notice the noises when I am typing with it, simply because I'm used to keyboards clicking, and noises around me, but I do see what you're saying. I have no fixes to offer, since it seems to be manufacturing rather than a joint or something that could do well with a little dab of WD-40 or something. If the noise takes over my mind, though, you are totally to blame.
Just got mine today. It's very pretty. My first note after only a few hours of usage is the top panel/screen slides a bit to easy, the mogul was a bit more tight...
With some well placed paper, I took small pieces and folded it once, on the corners you can make the cover fit better. This has silenced the creak people are talking about.
Considering the backis a peice of plastic that flexes to lock in and come off,
I don't mind the creaking. I'd prefer this than over a heavy piece of steel
with screws holding it in. The phone is heavy enough as it is.
Sure the quality control isnt' fantastic. The buttons on the face are a little raised up.. but not enough for me to be picky about it. The phones nice, I like it, and i'm happy it's pretty darn good.
Mine creeks too...and the power/volume hard keys dont give good feedback and have minimal travel. I feel as though the power button will break soon, especially since it's used so much to wake the phone. The overal construction is much more beautiful than the mogul, but aside from the keyboard buttons, the construction feels more flimsy, and the slider not as smooth as the mogul.
The touch screen seems to be less sensitive too.
Oh well...it's only a very expensive phone...
My cover creeked pretty bad. I cut a business card to fit and put it under the cover. Problem solved.
i fixed this by putting blue painters tape in layers and cutting to the right size and adding one layer at a time and then putting the cover back on then checking the noise. i reapeated this till it no longer creaked. this is not my fix but posted by someone at ppcgeeks and i think i was linked from there too. but the painters tape has a smooth surface on the non sticky side and it helps the battery cover slip on easily and is easily removed if you need to. hope this helps. oh yea the area around the micro sd slot is the main creaking area on mine and i have heard others say the same. it took 3-4 layers there.
tommy11481 said:
i fixed this by putting blue painters tape in layers and cutting to the right size and adding one layer at a time and then putting the cover back on then checking the noise. i reapeated this till it no longer creaked. this is not my fix but posted by someone at ppcgeeks and i think i was linked from there too. but the painters tape has a smooth surface on the non sticky side and it helps the battery cover slip on easily and is easily removed if you need to. hope this helps. oh yea the area around the micro sd slot is the main creaking area on mine and i have heard others say the same. it took 3-4 layers there.
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I used some thin strip electrical tape 2 layers on the right side next to the camera. "QUITE NOW"
I think its individual defectiveness. My phone creaks only if I put my ear 1 inch away from it when i press the Sprint logo, extremely unnoticeable. It feels much more solid than my last phone, HTC(PPC)6700, the side buttons are all solid and secure and respond well. No tape needed. If this happened to my phone I'd take it back and demand a new one as it retails for 550USD and that sort of defectiveness is unnacceptable. Although my 6700 retailed for 600USD and was much cheaper.
Mine also has a little creek. There isn't much i dislike about this phone besides the lack of working FM at the moment, and most importantly, the performance of 3d applications/games,videos etc.
I'll try the tape thing tonight.
Wow I don't know why I didn't think about putting something behind the cover. I was complaining that mine feels cheap, but I just threw a few post its back there and now it's nice a firm! thanks!
I ordered my first touch pro over the phone, and it felt SO cheap with all of the "symptoms" of what everyone has been saying, but for a different reason I had to exchange it, and the one they gave me at the store feels SO much sturdier.. I am glad I exchanged..
Before we were so rudely interrupted in the original thread, we were discussing the G1 hardware keyboard replacements. Please folks, if you must flame each other do it via PMs to avoid locking legitimate threads.
I've been able to find some inexpensive after market replacements on eBay, but still am not sure how difficult it is to actually do that. All the sites I've been able to find on the subject only provide time-lapse dis-assembly instructions of the entire phone. If anyone has done the replacement themselves, I'd greatly appreciate pointers on how to keep my phone operational after I put it back together.
I replaced the white keyboard in my Dream with a black one. It was a scary operation as it takes a bit of force to dismantle. I accidently pulled my antenna off and disconnected a flylead. ment my phone had no signal at all. later when i got home (did it in work ) i took it apart again and fixed it.
Take your time and have patience, alot of it is plastic and clipped together so requires a bit of force.
May I ask what is wrong with the keys on the bronze one? I did a quick skim of the old post and gather that you can't see the keys in daylight but I don't get why?
I'm just genuinely interested, I have a black G1 so never had such a problem.
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May I ask what is wrong with the keys on the bronze one? I did a quick skim of the old post and gather that you can't see the keys in daylight but I don't get why?
I'm just genuinely interested, I have a black G1 so never had such a problem.
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It's the combination of silver keys with light-silver backlight that make the lettering almost impossible to see in day light conditions. I'd take a picture if I had a camera with me today. Whoever came up with that color combination should be fired. Or at least made to stare at it every day for the next year. I have to tilt the keyboard at a weird angle just to distinguish the letters. From what I understand the white G1s suffer from the same problem.
The "Backlight Off" app definitely helps as it lets you toggle the backlight with a keyboard shortcut. I'm looking for a more hardware solution though.
I've been thinking about changing keyboards and housings too. But from what ppl are saying it seems to be pretty exhaustive. Do any of you guys have the service manual? I DL'ed it from somewhere and it goes through each step of disassembly and also shows assembly. I'm sure it would help out to give an idea of what you need. But like I said, even having read the service manual, it's still quite scary.
A full housing from my understanding is a bitc(....doing the KB I can see why. The LCD portions look ridiculously complex in comparison to other phones.
That said if you have the proper tools , good organization or memory , steady hands and patience really shouldnt be "that" tough to do the keyboard.
Heres the thing. Its really not that hard to unscrew things etc...but the piece you need to move in order to get proper access to the KB has 2 ribbons that are a PAIN IN THE ASS to take off and put back properly. Theres so little room for error.If youve never worked with ribbons before BE CAREFUL.
I will say G1 is pretty unique in how its put together , I swear they were determined to make it as complicated as possible
The really pain in the ass part is that the online manual/guide will merely tell you something like "remove part A" but no explanation how. Theres also 2 screws I swear it glossed over leading to frustration when I did the trackball/front keys.
Torx 5 and really good mini screw driver are mandatory.
Nice lil workstation is really helpful..(masking tape ,towel , table lamp or LED headlamp , vitamin/pill cases etc)
Im no mechanical engineer but Ive opened up damn near everything Ive ever owned at some point. Took me a solid 3 hours from start to finish. With major time spent on organizing the screws pieces and those damn ribbons.
I will say the black KB makes a HUGE difference. Black key on the front arent necessary but do look better and add much needed contrast.
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I will say the black KB makes a HUGE difference. Black key on the front arent necessary but do look better and add much needed contrast.
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Pics, or it didn't happen
Thanks for the tips!
Chahk said:
Pics, or it didn't happen
Thanks for the tips!
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As you can see I also replaced the trackball with a glowing white one.
lol at the trackball
doing a case swap is only bad the first time LMAO. I learned a lot, like for example the brass inserts that the screws go into...are not pre-installed. You must CUT Them out of the old housing and HAMMER them into the new oneBut in the end, it turned out very nice.
As far as just replacing the keyboard, it isnt too bad actually once you know what screws hold what down!
-Remove the 6 torx screws for the back housing
-GENTLY pry open the TOP of the casing with a plastic case tool, work your way down to the bottom of the housing. The bottom is a PITA to remove. I usually get it by rocking it gently back and forth
-remove the long and short coax leads from the motherboard side. swing them out of the way
-peel back the tape and GENTLY pull the bottom connector (mouthpiece module) from the motherboard.
-peel back more tape and lift the latch for the keyboard connector (the one on the side)
-Peel the camera module up SLOWLY (it is double side taped down) as well as the imei card. The cam cable is routed under it, lift it all as a unit. When you get to the motherboard, STOP
-Now, gently twist the whole camera and motherboard unit as a whole until it is free of the latch on the side. Gently lift the camera end exposing the 2 small ribbon connectors on the bottom.
-Peel back the tape and GENTLY lift the ribbon connectors out of the board. Place the motherboard/camera unit to the side for now.
-Remove all the black and silver screws for the metal piece. The lcd should stay in place as the mouthpiece plastics kinda hold it for you, but you should still support it to keep from hurting the connections.
-Viola, keyboard access. Remember when you put it back together be sure to re-tape all the connections, else when you drop your phone one of them may pop loose.
Keeping the motherboard and camera/imea plate all as one module saves you from a very difficult connection and will help you keep everything aligned when reassembling it.
I guess the spacebar has 2 functioning buttons, (left and right) ... well my right side just konked on me, and i was wondering if a replacement keyboard off ebay will fix this, or are they just the button "covers"?
the "buttons" are just plastic nubs that make contact on a board behind it. That board would be what you need. I dont know if there are any on eBay, but I have a spare one if you want to PM me for details.
I dropped my G1 about 6 months ago and was devastated. After entirely too much research I finally got the guts to purchase a replacement digitizer and managed to install it successfully. However, in the process I managed to rip the LCD ribbon cable. I then had to order a replacement LCD screen. I've also damaged one of the black ribbon cables pretty severely causing the touchscreen to become unresponsive sporadically. I've just placed an order for one of those ribbon cables and will hopefully have that up and running soon. I've also purchased an entire new housing unit to rebuild the phone to make it look as new.
Now when I first took this thing apart I was by NO MEANS an expert or have ever done something like this before. I'm just an avid enthusiast who wanted to save a little money, feel a sense of accomplishment and to learn a few things along the way. I technically paid nearly the same amount of money it would have cost me to send the unit to HTC for repair, however i've learned everything there is to know about my phone's hardware. I know which board does what and are extremely confident about fixing ANY hardware problem in the future.
If you have the time, patience, and truly want to become confident about the workings of your phone, then I highly recommend fixing it yourself. I've bought my parts for VERY cheap off of reputable ebay buyers. You can find EVERY single piece for your phone on Ebay. My LCD has 1 dead pixel, but I guess that's the risk you take when you buy really cheap parts.
Hope this helps.
I had another i777 that I returned, so I could get it cheaper on Black Friday and both of them had this same problem.
I don't even know if I would call it a problem actually, more of a possible design flaw. Under the volume rocker, almost exactly half way down the phone, it feels like the back plate that meets the bezel is a bit loose. If pressed at this point, often times just normal holding, I can sometimes hear a creak, snap, pop, whatever you want to call it. I discovered that once this happens, if I press on the battery cover on that side right next to the previously mentioned point, it will then make a creaking sound. This can repeat indefinitely if alternating presses are used. I tried both tightening down and loosening up the 7 screws holding the back plate on, but it did not change anything. It seems to me that this is just a point on the frame that is either holding more load or just doesn't have anything holding it in place, thus you get some slight movement.
Has anyone else noticed this?
I have noticed that when I press on any flimsy plastic things such as phones they exhibit "creaky" sounds like you describe. Think about it, where you're pressing is barely a few millimeters thin. My suggestion brotha, is to get a case or bumper or whatever sort of protection you desire if you're that concerned about it.
Yep. My phone is in a strong case. It could be made of paper and I wouldn't notice.
Mine doesn't make a sound
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Although its no excuse for a flimsy design, but I think nowadays the manufacturers assume that you will have a protective case on it. And you should have one. If not, u will be one of those jokers that post up on here ...poor me...my phone broke cuz I dropped it and I didn't have a case on it. I have no pity for cheapness and ignorance
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Dear all,
I am here to just warn you of who ever owns a roxfit case, for those who have not stick it on to their phone you might want to reconsider before doing so. And for those who have it on already you might want to reconsider as well.
I bought this case like a month ago and used it for a month. Yes it is a good case "full protection" but when i tried to take it off today i realized the following:
1- it is a PAIN in the ____ to take it off, I am not even kidding. You might think why would you want to take it off? cause one day you want to clean up the dust, take out the sim card, or maybe switch case. I nearly had to break the top left corner, that little thin strand infront of the power button, and find something to stick into the top right.
Yes, i know it might not be the right way to take it off, but I have done some research and it seems like no one knows what is the "proper way" to take it off.
ANYWAY to get to the worst part
2- you know the inside of the case it has the black rectangle thingy with white words on it saying "roxfit?" Well, when i took off the case, i realized a bunch of little tiny black/grey dots on the back of my phone. No, I cannot rub it off, and i also tried erasing it off (which is not a good idea, cause it does rub off the anti-coating and causes it to look shiny which was described in another thread)
I know its just the back cover, but still...
Not trying to complain or anything, just keep your eyes open when choosing your case
LitoNi said:
Dear all,
I am here to just warn you of who ever owns a roxfit case, for those who have not stick it on to their phone you might want to reconsider before doing so. And for those who have it on already you might want to reconsider as well.
I bought this case like a month ago and used it for a month. Yes it is a good case "full protection" but when i tried to take it off today i realized the following:
1- it is a PAIN in the ____ to take it off, I am not even kidding. You might think why would you want to take it off? cause one day you want to clean up the dust, take out the sim card, or maybe switch case. I nearly had to break the top left corner, that little thin strand infront of the power button, and find something to stick into the top right.
Yes, i know it might not be the right way to take it off, but I have done some research and it seems like no one knows what is the "proper way" to take it off.
ANYWAY to get to the worst part
2- you know the inside of the case it has the black rectangle thingy with white words on it saying "roxfit?" Well, when i took off the case, i realized a bunch of little tiny black/grey dots on the back of my phone. No, I cannot rub it off, and i also tried erasing it off (which is not a good idea, cause it does rub off the anti-coating and causes it to look shiny which was described in another thread)
I know its just the back cover, but still...
Not trying to complain or anything, just keep your eyes open when choosing your case
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I've have 2 of their products for my S, I have the hard shell, which I broke trying to take it off, those little this bits near the switches are a pain and a weak spot. This case had a thin felt patch inside to stop it rubbing the back of my S.
I also have the leather flip over case , i've had to stop using this because unlike the hard shell there is no felt patch inside to stop it rubbing , now I have marks on the back of my phone.
For the money I paid for these items, you'd think a bit more thought would go into the design...
I know, matte coating is not a cool thing, it just feels nice.
i dont know about your XPS but on mine the front bottom part where it says "xperia" that part is also glossy shiny, obviously that part's anti coating is rubbing off just by putting in my pockets.
this is what i am planning to do instead of making the same mistakes again.
the best thing to do is to get the zagg full body kit and protect the [ top, bottom, and the "xperia part" on the front ] and then get a case that only covers the sides and the back.
I had a roxfit and never had such problems.
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Thanks for the warning. In the case thread there was someone saying something about the shell feeling loose. (maybe it was you, dont remember).
I guess thats what you get with a hard shell that covers the phone's back and sides completely unless it was made of two parts or from soft material like TPU. I thought of buying this on long time ago because none of the TPU cases had a good fitt (and the buttons still usable).
I never did buy this one, but thougt about it since it's for me the best next to my TPU preference. I'm using a (little reshaped with hot water) 'Nillkin' TPU case at the moment. I also have a 'Gimmick Five' hard case, but i don't like the edges (like almost all hard cases) , its not smooth when putting it in and getting it out of my pocket for a phone with this size. I also do't think those cases offer much protection.
If you're planning on buying a ZAGG invisibleShield read this too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27896421&postcount=6
and remember this skin is only for scratches not fall damage duh (cases/covers/shells might help a little with low height falls)
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superlimau said:
I had a roxfit and never had such problems.
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Can you give us some more info? how is the fit? is it easy to take out? do you have any little scratches of the coating on the edges?
@LitoNi The case is a little flexible, maybe it has also to do with how someone tries to pull of the case?
I took my case many times off. Yeah it's not easy, that's for sure but I can't confirm your other complaints.
My phone slipped once out of my hand and landed on hard ground. I just have a few scratches on the top right corner and bottom left corner.
without the case the damage would have been probably much worse.
The case also was damaged in the bottom.
Currently I'm waiting for my nillkin flip leather case. Hope it will protect the front as well now.
Edit: that is now a little embarrassing. I actually have a krusell case, but the should be the same
I have the roxfit hard shell as well. It fits perfectly and doesn't feel loose at all. As for taking it off, well yeah it's a snug fit, so taking it off requires a bit of fiddling. But it is definitely not impossible to take it off without breaking it. Then again you shouldn't have to take it off daily, so for me it's not a problem.I usually just push the bottom corners of the case down, then you can stick your nail through the hole on the bottom and just push the phone out completely. Not that hard to do.
Also mine does not leave any traces on the phone. I'm pretty happy with this case.
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i guess i was just the unlucky one with the stains.
anyway i changed the title so it wont be directly talking about roxfit, but cases in general
taking it out is slightly a pain in the ass... you need to flick it out from the powet button corner follow by volume side... one you flick it past both the 2 buttons, the rest is a breeze...
no there's no stain on the phone....
thanks
Thanks for the warning..
superlimau said:
taking it out is slightly a pain in the ass... you need to flick it out from the powet button corner follow by volume side... one you flick it past both the 2 buttons, the rest is a breeze...
no there's no stain on the phone....
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i start with the left side and bottom, then top side and last the right side. works everytime
Let me add that there is also a slider shell case: Incipio EDGE Hard Shell Slider Case
But please talk about this on the Xperia S Case show thread and let this thread be only for the Roxfit and Krusell shells :fingers-crossed:
It has done exactly the same to my phone....It's a joke!!!!!
I took apart my Incredible 4G to replace the screen and this small rubber piece fell out. I looked the phone up and down and watched carefully at all the guides, but still can't figure out where it goes. Does anyone here know?
Rubber Housing for part of the capacitive button
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I took apart my Incredible 4G to replace the screen and this small rubber piece fell out. I looked the phone up and down and watched carefully at all the guides, but still can't figure out where it goes. Does anyone here know?
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This is a rubber piece correct?
It looks like the housing around the light source for the capacitive buttons, either "Back" or "Recent App" button. You will have to lift the board up at the bottom of your phone to see them. This piece holds the clear plastic that directs light to those buttons.
Good Luck getting it back together again.
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This is a rubber piece correct?
It looks like the housing around the light source for the capacitive buttons, either "Back" or "Recent App" button. You will have to lift the board up at the bottom of your phone to see them. This piece holds the clear plastic that directs light to those buttons.
Good Luck getting it back together again.
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Yes it's a rubber piece with small step-like grooves like a staircase. I looked again where you were talking about, the light guides, and there already seems to be two rubber pieces around the Back and Recent Apps buttons so I don't think that's quite it. Should there be a piece around the Home button? Because it doesn't seem to fit there.
Any other suggestions? I'm sure it will work fine without it, but it's really annoying that this piece seemingly popped out of nowhere.
Okay, nvm that was the right piece for the light guides. I actually have two of these phones sitting around with broken screen while I wait for the replacement parts to come. I thought that the piece had fallen out of the second phone I was working on, but I checked the first one again and turns out it was missing that piece. How it ended up falling out when I was taking apart the second, I have no idea lol. Guess I need a bigger workspace.
Thanks DaveDoc!
No problem
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