I understand hboot 1.5 phones that were unlocked using htc unlock method you cant change the kernel, i read the methods for flashing a kernel if you want to do a aeosp rom, My question is I unlocked my hboot 1.5 phone, i have superuser access fine, if i want to flash a sense 3.0 based rom, do i need to reflash the kernel, or do i just put it on my sd card and use the bootloader to flash?
dunndfrnt said:
I understand hboot 1.5 phones that were unlocked using htc unlock method you cant change the kernel, i read the methods for flashing a kernel if you want to do a aeosp rom, My question is I unlocked my hboot 1.5 phone, i have superuser access fine, if i want to flash a sense 3.0 based rom, do i need to reflash the kernel, or do i just put it on my sd card and use the bootloader to flash?
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FYI...use FlashGui by Joey Kim in the Themes/Apps section. Very easy way to flash kernels on 1.5.
Do i need to flash a new kernel if am staying with a sense rom? or can i just flash the rom.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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dunndfrnt said:
Do i need to flash a new kernel if am staying with a sense rom? or can i just flash the rom.
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This question is essentially a trick question because the answer depends on the ROM.
Some ROMs include a custom kernel and some do not. Some ROMs will boot/work with the existing kernel on the device and some will not.
Without any reference to a specific ROM there is no way to accurately guarantee a correct answer to the question.
Easiest way to check the ROM will be to either look at the updater-script for the write image of boot.img or check the ROM files for boot/kernel/boot.img file name reference. If any of these are present, more than likely will be loading a kernel and will require an extra few steps, due to HTC's unlock method.
LfnsR said:
FYI...use FlashGui by Joey Kim in the Themes/Apps section. Very easy way to flash kernels on 1.5.
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Of course, I definitely agree with this. Thats why I spent so much personal time coding the program and continuing ot answer questions/help users!
Hope that helps!
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Hey all,
Been running ROMs on my Hero for a while now but I'd like to give the stock 2.1 a try and possibly stick with it until CM6 is stable. I know I can install the RUU but I don't really want to lose my recovery partition, I had to use the gold card method which was a pain in the ass.
I don't need root, I'd actually prefer to get a non-rooted completely default factory ROM if possible. How would I go about doing that or do I need to install the RUU and re-root it later if I want to? I've seen some "stock" ROMs floating around on the dev forum but all have been rooted and most seem to be running custom kernels too.
Any info or a link would be appreciated if I can keep my recovery part. Cheers
Villain Team has posted the GSM roms. There's pure stock and rooted stock.
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=1973
Alexander13 said:
Villain Team has posted the GSM roms.
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Ahh brilliant, thanks for that!
I'm not really sure I understand and maybe someone can help me to, but the appeal of CWM to me was the ability to flash a ROM without needing a PC. However, most of the ROM's in the dev section say that a kernel flash is required and the utility requires a PC. The appeal of being able to flash a new ROM at any time is lost since I need to wait until I'm at home with my PC. If a kernel flash at the PC is required for most ROM's then why CWM at that point?
I'm realizing as I write this that the answer is likely that it's easier for a noob than adb. I still ask the question in the event there is something else I'm missing.
Also, before I get 30 hypersensitive replies about not appreciating the devs work and I should dev something myself if I don't like it please know that this is not intended to criticize the work of the devs. I'd just like to know if there is something I'm missing or maybe that I'm misunderstanding that a kernel flash is required when I read the releases.
BialyMurzyn said:
I'm not really sure I understand and maybe someone can help me to, but the appeal of CWM to me was the ability to flash a ROM without needing a PC. However, most of the ROM's in the dev section say that a kernel flash is required and the utility requires a PC. The appeal of being able to flash a new ROM at any time is lost since I need to wait until I'm at home with my PC. If a kernel flash at the PC is required for most ROM's then why CWM at that point?
I'm realizing as I write this that the answer is likely that it's easier for a noob than adb. I still ask the question in the event there is something else I'm missing.
Also, before I get 30 hypersensitive replies about not appreciating the devs work and I should dev something myself if I don't like it please know that this is not intended to criticize the work of the devs. I'd just like to know if there is something I'm missing or maybe that I'm misunderstanding that a kernel flash is required when I read the releases.
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Yes! You missed this thread
All the latest roms are using Faux kernel anyways, Flash once, and then you can use CWM to flash any multiple roms you want
The ONLY time you NEED to flash a seperate kernel is when going to a totally different build. Examples:
Sense 3.0 to Sense 3.5
Sense 3.5 to Sense 3.0
ICS to Sense 3.0
ICS to Sense 3.5
Sense 3.0 to ICS
ICS to Sense 3.5
...etc
Other than that the kernel that you use is still pretty much stock.
rbaruch said:
All the latest roms are using Faux kernel anyways, Flash once, and then you can use CWM to flash any multiple roms you want
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This is true, but each successive release says that a kernel update is needed. I am assuming that this includes not only those freshly flashing the ROM, but also those flashing from a ROM's previous version. Are they incompatible from version to version? Basically, if I'm bored while out and wanted to flash a ROM then flash the kernel later are there risks?
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Yes! You missed this thread
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This looks great! Since T-Mobile just throttled my data for the remainder of my billing cycle I will have to follow the thread and then give it a try later when I have WiFi. Thanks for the link.
Thanks Binary. That makes sense. No pun intended. So then the boot.img a dev includes with the packaged ROM is more or less a suggested kernel to best optimize their ROM and not that there are features of a ROM that will not work?
BialyMurzyn said:
Thanks Binary. That makes sense. No pun intended. So then the boot.img a dev includes with the packaged ROM is more or less a suggested kernel to best optimize their ROM and not that there are features of a ROM that will not work?
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That depends on the kernel that the developer includes.
If it's a faux edition then there are a few tweaks however it's still stock.
All features should be accessable in the rom as long as you are using an unsecured kernel.
I am looking for a ROM that allows overclocking.. currently I just tried Suprarom as it's AOSP with HTC Sense so still very similar to what I am use to without a whole new learning curve. But I hate it when developers developing these ROMS don't unlock them completely Set CPU does not work.. I can not overclock so I need to know what would be the best ROM for me that allows overclocking but not too much of a new learning curve and 3D and that still works.
molitar said:
I am looking for a ROM that allows overclocking.. currently I just tried Suprarom as it's AOSP with HTC Sense so still very similar to what I am use to without a whole new learning curve. But I hate it when developers developing these ROMS don't unlock them completely Set CPU does not work.. I can not overclock so I need to know what would be the best ROM for me that allows overclocking but not too much of a new learning curve and 3D and that still works.
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Overclocking does not require you to flash a different ROM. Just flash a overclockable kernel on your current ROM and you will be fine.
NOTE: Not all kernels work on every ROM.
mnomaanw said:
Overclocking does not require you to flash a different ROM. Just flash a overclockable kernel on your current ROM and you will be fine.
NOTE: Not all kernels work on every ROM.
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ok thanks.. so guessing that Anthrax v2 that appears stickied is the one to flash than.
molitar said:
ok thanks.. so guessing that Anthrax v2 that appears stickied is the one to flash than.
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I do not guarantee this will work on your current ROM or not.
If anything goes wrong like you are stuck on htc screen/broken wifi/4g etc reflash th kernel that came with your rom. Also if you are on hboot 1.50 you will need flash image GUI to change kernel or use fastboot method. I dont know whether these can be overclocked or not. Check their description. What is your current rom based on?
2.08.651.2/.3 or 2.17.651.5 ?vCheck whether those kernels are made for your current version.
Hope this helps.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427963
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224659
Search here there might be kernels in some folders
http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/EVO_3D_Developers/
Ok, I am S-offed and running CleanRom DE 1.3, and on GB firmware. How do I flash the new Leak? Do I just install it in H-boot? Or do i flash it in Recovery? Do i still need too Unlock in order to re-flash the recovery IMG? I'm just confused because of the h-boot versions, and also, if I flash the leak, do I still have to flash the "Old_firmware_patch"?
Follow these directions, no need to flash the whole thing unless you want to run the leak vs CleanRom DE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25829303&postcount=2
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Follow these directions, no need to flash the whole thing unless you want to run the leak vs CleanRom DE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25829303&postcount=2
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Thanks!
So When i flash roms, will i have to flash a patch every time, Or will i be set?
Db0y505 said:
Thanks!
So When i flash roms, will i have to flash a patch every time, Or will i be set?
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If you upgrade to the ICS firmware using my directions and you install ICS roms, no, you won't need to do any firmware patches anymore. If you happen to go back to a GB rom with the ICS firmware, then yes you would.
I saw this thread and was hoping that, since the OP looks like he has his questions answered, that it looked like a decent thread title to hijack so I don't have to start another thread. I posted this on the S-Off thread but no reply so far. I want to run the newest 5/8 leak, including radios and firmware, with 3.14 based ICS ROMs. I also want to get going on S-Off.
I am currently S-On with htcdev unlock, GB firmware, on CleanROM Kang Tapped Edition with GB firmware patch.
What is a good way to get onto the latest and greatest?
Should I relock and run the 3.14 RUU before attaining S-Off? Or is it easier to install a GB ROM, then S-Off? I read that people are having trouble with GB firmware on ICS ROMs with S-Off.
Is v0.4 of the ControlBear release with its included jb_hboot considered ideal if we want a bootloader with full functionality, including the ability to run fastboot commands?
Sorry if this has been answered 1000 times already, I feel like I'm sinking in a sea of posts...
you are good to do the s-off routine right now... unlocked, rooted...
do the GB firmware s-off. flash the hboot if you want, if it fails, it's because you got the wrong hboot for your firmware... just reflash the right boot.img via fastboot and you will be good to go.
EDIT: obviously doing a GB ruu before s-off'ing, will remove any variables from the equation
join us on irc (link below) for real time help if you need it, someones usually around.
mjones73 said:
Follow these directions, no need to flash the whole thing unless you want to run the leak vs CleanRom DE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25829303&postcount=2
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I think the Link in the post is dead.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1614366
Is there any other place i could download the files?
Also, when I upgrade the firmware, will it wipe my phone?
Db0y505 said:
I think the Link in the post is dead.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1614366
Is there any other place i could download the files?
Also, when I upgrade the firmware, will it wipe my phone?
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I fixed my original post, not sure why the link changed, they have been doing some clean up in the dev section - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614366
Hello, I have a couple of questions that I want to ask about my HTC Amaze.I am using an HTC Amaze 4g running Speed Rom 8.0 by EclipzeRemix and is on 4.0.4. I want to flash a kernel on my device and wanted to know whether I will need S-Off because I already have an unlocked bootloader. Also I want to know which kernel I should flash, because when I google it all of the kernels I found say gingerbread so I am not sure whether it would work on my phone.
berry-boss said:
Hello, I have a couple of questions that I want to ask about my HTC Amaze.I am using an HTC Amaze 4g running Speed Rom 8.0 by EclipzeRemix and is on 4.0.4. I want to flash a kernel on my device and wanted to know whether I will need S-Off because I already have an unlocked bootloader. Also I want to know which kernel I should flash, because when I google it all of the kernels I found say gingerbread so I am not sure whether it would work on my phone.
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You should be S-Off when flashing a *kernel*.
and go here for faux kernels : http://faux.androidro.ms/ruby/beta/
those are ICS i believe . but they're other kernel's such as nightmare's kernel .
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You should be S-Off when flashing a rom .
and go here for faux kernels : http://faux.androidro.ms/ruby/beta/
those are ICS i believe . but they're other kernel's such as nightmare's kernel .
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thats wrong.. you do not need to be s-off to flash a rom anymore... however you should be using 4EXT recovery when trying to flash a rom, since 4ext has "smart flash" option to flash the kernel properly .. and as for what kernel that could be used for the Amaze.. i only know of the Faux Kernel found here
Ninjistix said:
thats wrong.. you do not need to be s-off to flash a rom anymore... however you should be using 4EXT recovery when trying to flash a rom, since 4ext has "smart flash" option to flash the kernel properly .. and as for what kernel that could be used for the Amaze.. i only know of the Faux Kernel found here
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oh my apologies, I meant you have to be S-off to flash a kernel * .
kevinrubio1 said:
oh my apologies, I meant you have to be S-off to flash a kernel * .
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wrong again, you do not need to be s-off to flash a kernel...