[Q] charging paused because battery too hot - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

I am no my second GS2 and the issue persists.
Issue:
When charging overnight, the battery gets extremely hot. So much it warps the sim card. The first phone overheated until it died. Last night the second phone overheated until the warning message “charging paused due to temp” came up. I do use a CPU intensive app that uploads files to my server when plugged in. (so it doesn’t drain the battery). I have used all these apps on my old captivate with no issues with overheating.
I have tried Unnamed 2.2.1 and ICSreweD 1.6.1 roms, but the battery still overheats. Unless this might be a faulty batch from the store, what areas should I look into? At the end of the day, I would really like to continue to allow the app to run while charging. Especially since I have used it with less powerful phones prior. I have read others have this same issue with the GS2 but no solutions as of yet. Is there a different ATT phone that does not have this issue?

Silly question, but I know many who do this...
Do you place your phone under your pillow overnight while charging?

When charging and running a app that requires high cpu usage will overheat the battery. So close it at night while charging.
Damn warping the card. **** that's bad.
One time at football camp i put my shoulder pads in my ass

If you need to keep the app running while plugged in all night, what about using a plugged in profile in set CPU to throttle to 800 mhz Max or something...
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dandrumheller said:
If you need to keep the app running while plugged in all night, what about using a plugged in profile in set CPU to throttle to 800 mhz Max or something...
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Is there a specific app you recommend? Also, is there an app to limit the cpu useage of a service/app?

quy said:
Is there a specific app you recommend? Also, is there an app to limit the cpu useage of a service/app?
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Set it with setcpu or tasker. It's likely running at 1200 mhz all night right now. (assuming you don't OC). Try throttling it down to 500 or 800 mhz, it should help. Not sure if there's anything that limits specific apps though.
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Try the lulzactive CPU Governor.
Sets max CPU clock to 200mHz while phones asleep.
Also great for battery life

twiggums said:
Set it with setcpu or tasker.
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If you absolutely have to leave your phone performing such intensive tasks all night, this is what I would try.
As twiggums said, it is probably running at 1200 all night and just melting itself. Unlike most computers, everything in our phones is passively cooled. Something else you might try is removing the battery cover (and any phone case) and placing a fan blowing directly on it. I know that is extreme, but so is what is happening to your phone.
Hope this helps.

I have also experienced this and it's really annoying. I couldn't love a human child as much as I love this phone but the overheating is not cool. I was using my phone to navigate while charging and once it got so hot that it locked up and another time it paused the charging due to thermal issues.
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MonFrayr said:
Something else you might try is removing the battery cover and placing a fan blowing directly on it. I know that is extreme, but so is what is happening to your phone.
Hope this helps.
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I had to do that sometimes when downloading some big files and tethering. Lol
Since my PC is caseless it wasn't that hard pointing a 120mm fan to it.
And yes it did work.

DJSLINKARD said:
I have also experienced this and it's really annoying. I couldn't love a human child as much as I love this phone but the overheating is not cool. I was using my phone to navigate while charging and once it got so hot that it locked up and another time it paused the charging due to thermal issues.
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IIRC entropy mentioned some time ago that he throttles CPU to 800 mhz when using nav and charging...keeps it cooler and allows for slight charge rather than drain...
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Yeah I'd suggest possibly throttling the CPU. I charge my phone while driving and stream Pandora and use navigation. I've got mine set to Max out at 500 while screen off and it works fine.
Ideally our phones should be able to handle sustained 1200 mhz. But then when you add a case and the heat generated while charging I guess it's too much for some. Guess it's the price we pay to have a beast of a CPU
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thanks for the tips on throttling the cpu. i had thought about that and will probably do it but i still thinks its really lame that we have to do this. i dont even have a case on my phone. what are people who arent rooted and cant underclock their cpus supposed to do? oh well i guess

I have started to notice this on my phone. it happens when I'm in the car only though. Here's the situation.
It seems anytime I run Navigation my phone cranks up in heat to the point that I can't touch it. Is this a ROM/Kernel issue, or a problem in the phone itself?

stalked_r/t said:
I have started to notice this on my phone. it happens when I'm in the car only though. Here's the situation.
It seems anytime I run Navigation my phone cranks up in heat to the point that I can't touch it. Is this a ROM/Kernel issue, or a problem in the phone itself?
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Well if your sig is correct and you're running at 1600 MHZ, I'd say that's probably why. Running at that speed for prolonged periods is likely to generate some heat.

twiggums said:
Well if your sig is correct and you're running at 1600 MHZ, I'd say that's probably why. Running at that speed for prolonged periods is likely to generate some heat.
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I run Set CPU and my sig isn't correct. Well, the 1600 mhz isn't at least. I have it capped at 1000. It's just odd that I can multi task any number of applications without a problem. I use navigation and instantly, the only application I can use is that one. Running Pandora or the phone or the phone interrupts pandora or the phone interrupts navigation and I get this error and the screen gets untouchable.

stalked_r/t said:
I run Set CPU and my sig isn't correct. Well, the 1600 mhz isn't at least. I have it capped at 1000. It's just odd that I can multi task any number of applications without a problem. I use navigation and instantly, the only application I can use is that one. Running Pandora or the phone or the phone interrupts pandora or the phone interrupts navigation and I get this error and the screen gets untouchable.
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Hmm possibly reflash your ROM. I can run nav and Pandora fine, and my phone limits my CPU to 500mhz while screen is off. Or at least try reinstallin maps/nav, sounds like its gobbling up way too much CPU for some reason.

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Hmm possibly reflash your ROM. I can run nav and Pandora fine, and my phone limits my CPU to 500mhz while screen is off. Or at least try reinstallin maps/nav, sounds like its gobbling up way too much CPU for some reason.
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I told Pandora to not turn off the screen. I would think that Nav would do that natively or else it would negate the purpose of it. I wonder if maybe telling Pandora to keep the screen on and Nav keeping it on natively makes it think really hard and heat up.

stalked_r/t said:
I told Pandora to not turn off the screen. I would think that Nav would do that natively or else it would negate the purpose of it. I wonder if maybe telling Pandora to keep the screen on and Nav keeping it on natively makes it think really hard and heat up.
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That's probably why
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[Q] overheating problem

hi guys i find that when i use the phone for a little bit like on voice call or playing a game the phone become literally super hot and its reached 45 degrees c according to my battery indicator app is that dangerous and is anyone else had the same problem ?
my sgs2 also overheats! i don't know why
Whatever electric device You switch on and make it work it gets warm. If You make it work HARD it gets warmer to hot.
If You work it in summer and direct sunshine it gets hotter than under the same workload at the Northpole at Xmas.
CPUs produce heat under workload the same do screens. The higher the frequencies the hotter they will get.
It is simple physics. So what ?
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troed said:
Whatever electric device You switch on and make it work it gets warm. If You make it work HARD it gets warmer to hot.
If You work it in summer and direct sunshine it gets hotter than under the same workload at the Northpole at Xmas.
CPUs produce heat under workload the same do screens. The higher the frequencies the hotter they will get.
It is simple physics. So what ?
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i understand that the cpu and other hardware can produce heat however i would have thourght there would be some sort of heat regulator that would underclock it to reduce the temp like in setcpu when rooted. at what do u think is the highest temp the phone could go before killing it self ?
ahmed786 said:
i understand that the cpu and other hardware can produce heat however i would have thourght there would be some sort of heat regulator that would underclock it to reduce the temp like in setcpu when rooted. at what do u think is the highest temp the phone could go before killing it self ?
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Normal cpus can go to 70 - 80 degrees C. I would say now if the phone doesn't go over like 55 degrees it's fine.
I don't think this is normal personally. My phone has become hot a few times now and I think it was wifi sharing process causing it both times.
I ended this process using the System Panel app and carried on using the phone in the same way and the phone cooled right down again.
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N-C said:
I don't think this is normal personally. My phone has become hot a few times now and I think it was wifi sharing process causing it both times.
I ended this process using the System Panel app and carried on using the phone in the same way and the phone cooled right down again.
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I have frozen wifi sharing so I don't know. But my phone almost never gets hot except if I download big files.
the reason the phone gets hot is because the phone is very cramped and cant dissipate heat effectively . the simplest example is a laptop and a desktop, even though both may have the same configuration a laptop gets much hotter than a desktop because it cant dissipate heat effectively as a desktop which has much bigger heat sink
zxz0O0 said:
Normal cpus can go to 70 - 80 degrees C. I would say now if the phone doesn't go over like 55 degrees it's fine.
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lol oright -good to know =]

Does everyone's Atrix get really warm?

I was just curious if everyone's Atrix gets warm in the lower part of of the phone?
I've read on a few forums people just chalk it up the the dual core processor, but mine gets warm even if I'm doing something as simple as just reading Fox News. I don't know how that could be taxing the processor that much. I don't have much else running in memory which could be using a ton a resources.
Mine doesn't get hot, just pretty warm. I guess I am just suprised cause it's the only phone I've ever had that gets warm like that.
I tried our display model at work and it gets really warm also, so I guess exchanging my phone for another would probably amount to ending up with a new phone that does the same thing.
I was just wondering if it is common with everyone.
Yes, its a dual core phone so its to be expected.
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Yeah, mines gets warm too. Maybe try downloading SetCPU and limiting the processor's speed if you can't handle the heat
Anyways, its to be expected especially while running games or watching movies.
How hot is too hot? With fauxs newest kernel mine gets up to 70c
OCd at 1.3 on idle is at 51 celcius. I think its acceptable
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What are normal temps?
Also is there an app which will let me see the temp which works in the stock firmware?
I dropped back to the .7 kernel. My processor was getting way too hot at even 1.2 when under load. 70C+ is not good for any processor. Back to 1.1 for me.
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CaelanT said:
I dropped back to the .7 kernel. My processor was getting way too hot at even 1.2 when under load. 70C+ is not good for any processor. Back to 1.1 for me.
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Plus those temps are like a hot knife going through butter on the battery life...
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dragoncius said:
OCd at 1.3 on idle is at 51 celcius. I think its acceptable
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Which kernel are you using?
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51C at IDLE?! Mine is at 42C!
What OC you have shouldn't matter, as your phone doesn't run at maximum frequency with maximum voltage unless you are actively using it!
But to answer the OP's question, my phone gets pretty warm too. I just read the temperature after watching a 5 minute HD video, and it was at 67C. If you are using the cellular radio i'd imagine it can get even warmer.
That means the dualcore is doing its job
Using setcpu and CPU stress testing & quadrant benchmarking for almost 2 hours straight one day, mine never exceeded 60C.
I think the 1.3OC(v1.9) kernel is wonderful, I've hit 4.9k scores on quadrant standard. It seems to be more friendly with the combination of setcpu & CM7 also, the later kernels kind of crippled my setcpu profiles and would cause my launcher to FC(I suspect?)
Phone idles at 34C.. probably lower because screen off my max freq is 216mhz(AMAZING BATTERY LIFE) in fact, i usually keep my proc throttled down to about 400mhz and don't crank it up until i need it(again. AMAZING BATTERY LIFE)
honestly... at 400mhz the phone still quite snappy.
51c? unnaceptable.
mine runs at about 30c most of the time.
however i did notice a strange issue that the phone gets alot hotter after you charge it and then unplug the charger, a reboot usually fixes this. i make it a habit of rebooting immediately after unplugging the charger and my phone stays most of the day between 30-33c
this also helps the battery life a lot, i can usually get by the end of the day with 60 to 80 percent left.
If you change your oil every 5k miles and put air in the tires and keep your fluids topped off you should be to.... ummm wrong forum. I though this was the nascar forum.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Mine average on 58C to max at 62C.. Idles at 41C.. It's warm! I got used to it.
Has anyone considered the longevity of the phone and battery from the unit staying warm all the time?
Mine is pretty much warm the whole time it is in my hand when being used. Outside in the sun taking pictures even more so.
I don't think I have any runaway processes. After I restart the phone, I use a task killer to kill everything it boots up with initially. Everything which is needed, like about 4 things come right back up, so I excluded them. But I don't use to to autokill stuff. It's just when I boot up I noticed there are like 30 things started up for no reason being as I just turned off the phone.
I figured I know which ones need to be up cause they come right back up after being killed. But things like Google+, Maps, Gallery...etc...which I don't think need to be running at bootup I kill.
+1 on going back to 1.1... OC'd at 1.3 was killing battery and heating up like crazy! OC'd to 1.1 have no problem with UV, heat, and get 30+ hours battery life with moderate use.
It's not just the CPU/GPU usage what's heating up the Atrix...
That specific area of the Atrix contains CPU/GPU and also the GSM/3G/Wifi and Bluetooth radio chip, which can get really hot while broadcasting voice/data. Even if the radio is idle, if you are on a bad reception area it will be constantly searching for coverage and switching from 3G/4G to 2G, which creates heat and battery drain.
My .2 cents
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chocodough said:
I was just curious if everyone's Atrix gets warm in the lower part of of the phone?
I've read on a few forums people just chalk it up the the dual core processor, but mine gets warm even if I'm doing something as simple as just reading Fox News. I don't know how that could be taxing the processor that much. I don't have much else running in memory which could be using a ton a resources.
Mine doesn't get hot, just pretty warm. I guess I am just suprised cause it's the only phone I've ever had that gets warm like that.
I tried our display model at work and it gets really warm also, so I guess exchanging my phone for another would probably amount to ending up with a new phone that does the same thing.
I was just wondering if it is common with everyone.
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It gets warm because Fox News sends messages directly from hell.
On a more serious note, mine gets warm if im playing games.
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When I go camping, if it rains I fire up galaxy on fire 2, and roast marshmallows with my phone. (Pillsbury dough boy giggle.)
I voided my warranty and your mum.

Evo 3d overheating. Common issue among us Evo 3dusers?

My Evo 3d has been overheating a lot lately. My phone has setcpu set with profiles and the highest it goes to is 1193 and that's only when charging. Off the charger the highest is 972 Max 384 min. Anyone else have overheating problems with their Evo? From a simple Google search it seems to be an extremely common problem.
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As a experiment, don't use setcpu for a few days and see if you experience the same thing.
Mine hovers around 38 Celsius during high load times like after flashing a new ROM and getting everything in working order.
Other than that, I think it just gets a little warmer than usual, but nothing to worry about like shutting off to prevent damage.
catdeerduck said:
My Evo 3d has been overheating a lot lately. My phone has setcpu set with profiles and the highest it goes to is 1193 and that's only when charging. Off the charger the highest is 972 Max 384 min. Anyone else have overheating problems with their Evo? From a simple Google search it seems to be an extremely common problem.
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can i ask why the HELL you have your profiles so bass ackwards? lol
just curious why you have it set higher when it's charging... and throttled down when you are actually using it and need it to be performing optimally and at low temperatures...
the phone is plugged in.... and it already gets warmer from simply charging, that's how it works. and you have it spinning all the way up while doing so, and wonder why it is overheating? come on dude.
I'm using an evo 3d gsm and I'm not getting any issues with overheating even when running intense apps like dungeon defenders.I don't think you should be getting any overheating issues with the evo 3d. Perhaps it's something u installed that is causing a wake lock
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cobraboy85 said:
can i ask why the HELL you have your profiles so bass ackwards? lol
just curious why you have it set higher when it's charging... and throttled down when you are actually using it and need it to be performing optimally and at low temperatures...
the phone is plugged in.... and it already gets warmer from simply charging, that's how it works. and you have it spinning all the way up while doing so, and wonder why it is overheating? come on dude.
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Simple battery saving. Also I use it more when it's charging
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Bring it down to about 800 MHz while on the charger, and the same when off the charger.
Simple lesson in physics... If its cooler, its more efficient. Try to keep the battery and processor cool when charging by lowering CPU frequency. It will help.
bastardized rom. it's fast. get some.

Crappy game broke my phone?

So i was playing Rage of Bahamut, and i think my phone had enough.
The game locked up my entire phone at least 30 times in the past 2 days.
The last one had my phone in "safe mode" and upon reboot all my settings widgets folders and etc are gone
So what happened? What can i do? Why is this game so fubar for my phone
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Edgarhighman said:
So i was playing Rage of Bahamut, and i think my phone had enough.
The game locked up my entire phone at least 30 times in the past 2 days.
The last one had my phone in "safe mode" and upon reboot all my settings widgets folders and etc are gone
So what happened? What can i do? Why is this game so fubar for my phone
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It would be difficult to say without knowing how your phone is configured. I've been playing for about a week and have had no problems.
One thing I've noticed is that the phone will get quite hot if I play while connected to AC while playing. But I guess that's to be expected. I have SetCPU set to performance governor and 1200MHz when plugged into a power source. I also have AutomateIt set to turn the screen to full brightness when plugged in.
Could overheating be your problem? If you're sometimes playing while plugged in (to conserve battery, as I am) you might consider using USB instead of AC.
I have been also playing this game for about 2 weeks. No problems... Wait Okay, let me explain my scenario. When i was playing the game on AOKP I experienced the heating problem mentioned above and swapped roms as I thought it was the rom. I uninstalled the game and used AOKP fine for a bit then re installed it and the heating persisted. So I swapped roms to MIUI V4. The problem has been gone ever since <3
I I really don't think my phone is heating up that much.
I've had some games heat my phone to 113 fahrenheit - and sometimes during gaming and charging I'd reach 131 fahrenheit.
I use to use a profile in setCPU that would lower my CPU from 1.6 to 1.2 or something if the temperature got up about 45 degrees celsius but stopped using it because it made my games lag
I don't think my cpu goes above 105 degrees while playing Rage of Bahamut
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Try to bring it to the service center and have t checked
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Edgarhighman said:
I I really don't think my phone is heating up that much.
I've had some games heat my phone to 113 fahrenheit - and sometimes during gaming and charging I'd reach 131 fahrenheit.
I use to use a profile in setCPU that would lower my CPU from 1.6 to 1.2 or something if the temperature got up about 45 degrees celsius but stopped using it because it made my games lag
I don't think my cpu goes above 105 degrees while playing Rage of Bahamut
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Well, it was just a suggestion as to a possible cause. Not knowing how your phone is even set up makes it hard to hazard a guess. Like I said, I have had zero problems with this phone while running RoB.
I was looking at market reviews of the game, narrowed down to our device, and out of four pages of reviews there was only one mention of a GS2 locking up repeatedly.
What kernel are u using and are u trying to overclock? Because if yer running above the 1.2 ghz stock with no undervolting and doing it for long periods of time I mean....its gonna get hot as hell. But that's kinda expected. Almost guaranteed. And yer gonna experience problems if u continue to push it like that, only because of the amount of stress yer putting on the phone .
"Sent from my SGS2 running AOKP. Open source or GTFO."
You seriously overclock your phone all the time?............... you're just asking for issues. I literally have no advice for you besides saying maybe underclock your phone. what do you possibly need to do that the phones stock clk freq can't handle!?
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Would you like being sustained in 113 degrees Fahrenheit? Most likely not. Trust me, your phone doesn't like it either.
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[Q] Phone overheating when using google maps for navigation?

I have a fascinate currently running HellyBean 4.03 and I have an anker 1800mah battery, I have the kernal running smartassv2 and sio with max cpu set to 1200. I used gmaps with navigation (gps plus cell data) last night for about 30 minutes and when I picked my phone up again it was hot. After turning everything off the phone cooled down again but I am curious what would have caused this? Rom? Kernal? Battery? Anyone else experiencing any overheating issues?
I would test the battery myself but unfortunately I cannot get to my original battery until this weekend.
Yeah, that always happens when it has to run at max or near-max clock frequency for a long period of time. As long as it isn't give-you-a-burn hot, nothing is wrong.
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MultipleMonomials said:
Yeah, that always happens when it has to run at max or near-max clock frequency for a long period of time. As long as it isn't give-you-a-burn hot, nothing is wrong.
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If this is normal then is there anything I could do to reduce the temperature? Maybe set max cpu back to 1000? I only ask because I am concerned if I tried to use navigation for a longer period of time the heat would end up causing some damage to the phone.
ulnevrwalkalone said:
If this is normal then is there anything I could do to reduce the temperature? Maybe set max cpu back to 1000? I only ask because I am concerned if I tried to use navigation for a longer period of time the heat would end up causing some damage to the phone.
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No its fine these phones are known for getting a little warm I have mine set to 1.4ghz 24/7 and its fine . back in the days when you could over clock your phone to 1.7ghz LOL I had my over clocked to 1.6ghz and it got so hot it would turn on and off it never hurt it lol
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