dear all ,
i tried samsungdive.com with my Samsung galaxy S 3 , and it works very good and it locate my phone in its real place on google map
through the site
but i wonder it sends a confirmation to my phone in order to use it and locate it !!!
i feel its kinda weird coz mostly i will not use this feature but when my phone got stolen or lost it
so imagine that it got lost , and i 'm trying to locate it from samsungdive.com it wont locate it unless the theif will accept the confirmation msg for that , and im sure he WILL NOT accept that to help me ,, !!!
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did i miss domething or what ??? is there is way yo locate it directly if got stolen without permisson msg ?
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little help plz guys
SilentMODE said:
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GPS only drains battery when a app is called up to use it. You must have other apps that are checking for your location in the background. Check Maps and make sure its not constantly updating your location in the settings menu.
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GPS only drains battery when a app is called up to use it. You must have other apps that are checking for your location in the background. Check Maps and make sure its not constantly updating your location in the settings menu.
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can you explain it with more details please ....
Sorry to disappoint you, but anti-theft will only help you when the thief is a absolute moron operating alone.
A simple factory reset gets rid of most apps, and such system-integrated tools such as Dive can be reset through a firmware flash (takes 5min on any computer)
Also, most tools (including Dive) require an active data connection and tracking enabled which is both not a given.
I can recommend Cerberus or WatchDroid as tracking app if the phone gets stolen or your family needs to locate you in case of personal distress (e.g. car accident and not able to react anymore). Against thieves nothing helps short of a 2m fencelink chain of hardened steel which you lock to your phone and your wrist =)
Btw: Wireless network location also heavily drains battery. (Somewhat less than GPS but still very noticeable)
d4fseeker said:
Sorry to disappoint you, but anti-theft will only help you when the thief is a absolute moron operating alone.
A simple factory reset gets rid of most apps, and such system-integrated tools such as Dive can be reset through a firmware flash (takes 5min on any computer)
Also, most tools (including Dive) require an active data connection and tracking enabled which is both not a given.
I can recommend Cerberus or WatchDroid as tracking app if the phone gets stolen or your family needs to locate you in case of personal distress (e.g. car accident and not able to react anymore). Against thieves nothing helps short of a 2m fencelink chain of hardened steel which you lock to your phone and your wrist =)
Btw: Wireless network location also heavily drains battery. (Somewhat less than GPS but still very noticeable)
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indeed , your info's looks very true ,
however i wondered that i have an offer when i buy it that i have 1 year warranty against damage , steal ,.....etc
and they will give me another one immediately if i lost it or if it got stolen ,
i know its seems so weird and unbelievable coz may be someone thinking in pretend that he lost it and then he could have another extra phone , and that company which make this offer is big one and has a good reputation ,so they will not lie about that
so i thought that there are such a good protection on this phone make them sure of that ,
but unfortunately you said that this dive system could be useless
Long story short. I want to turn my old Android phone (HTC Inspire 4G) into a tracking device to catch a thief. The area near my house is plagued by motorcycle thieves who swipe bags from walking pedestrians. My idea is to carry a bait bag with an old, broken laptop in it and sew my phone to the inside of the bag where it will not be found. For my idea to work best, I need software that can perform specific functions, and so I come here for recommendations on how to accomplish this.
I need the device to operate in an ultra-low power mode where it is only listening for text messages and all sound is turned off. I don't know how long I will have to walk around with the bag before the thieves takes the bait, so I need the phone to conserve as much power as possible until the actual tracking operation begins.
Once the bag is in the thieves hands, I need to be able to control and activate the phone via text message. The phone must be in Silent Mode so that the thieves don't hear the incoming text messages. Additionally, I would not want the screen to light up or for any other message indicator to possibly shine through the bag's fabric and tip them off about the presence of the phone.
First, I will be using a "disposable" prepaid SIM card (lets call this the trackingSIM). I don't want to use my actual postpaid account with unlimited internet (lets call this mySIM). I need mySIM to communicate with the trackingSIM. So the problem is that the phone WON'T have unlimited internet access when it is stolen. I'll need to activate that remotely. Usually this is done by sending a specific text message to the Carrier with a code that activates unlimited internet for a period of time and deducts the cost from a balance on the SIM. But since I won't actually have the phone in my possession, I'll need some kind of program that allows me to remote control the phone and tell the phone to send a text message on its own. In summary, I need to send a text message from mySIM to the trackingSIM which will then trigger the trackingSIM to send another text message to a specific number. (like, if I send "SENDTXT 5551212 internets" from mySIM to trackingSIM, then the trackingSIM phone would resend a text message "internets" to the number 5551212)
Once internet is activated, the Carrier sends a text message response confirming that the phone now has unlimited internet access for a specified time period. It would be nice if the phone could forward that reply from trackingSIM to mySIM so that I know the task is complete.
Now that the phone has internet access, I need to actually turn on the 3G radio and the GPS antenna (which should have previously been off to conserve battery) also via text message. Something like "GPS ON" and "3G ON" from mySIM to the trackingSIM would be great. And if the phone could reply with a confirmation text, that would be even better.
The last step would be to activate the tracking software. I need some kind of tracking software that would also activate via text message, and provide a confirmation text if possible.
Once the tracking software is activated, I need the following features:
Realtime tracking via a website. If it can work well on a mobile website as well (like an iPhone's Safari or Chrome browser), even better
Complete tracking history. Even if the signal dies, I want to know their last known location. If they move during the night and I have to sleep, I don't want to lose any data because I was wasn't watching every single moment. I plan to take all this information to the local police, so I need as much data as possible.
Once I have located the thieves loation and brought the police in, I need to be able to find the phone and bag as quickly and easily as possible. I'd like to be able to bring the phone OUT of Silent Mode, again with a text message, and activate an alarm at the highest possible volume setting, again with a text message.
Optionally, once I have Internet access established on the phone, I could possibly accomplish some of these tasks through another form of remote access such as SSH.
Optionally, if I could also somehow initiate a telephone call with the phone once it has reached its "final" location, then I could use the phone as a microphone as well and potentially get more evidence regarding the thieves' names, intentions, or guilt. This would also need to occur in complete silence as I would not want the thieves to hear a ring or see any flashing lights or lit up screen. Somehow I would need the phone to automatically answer a phone call that met some predetermined signal.
Optionally, it would also be nice to be able to initiate a voice recording remotely for the same reasons as 6. A voice recording might be easier to initiate and would probably have better audio quality (but would only be useful after the phone was recovered, whereas 6. could aid in the actual recovery).
Most of what you want can be accomplished very, very easy. If you can root the phone. You would be able to Install avast antivirus. Avast has an anti-theft feature that you can activate from a phone AND/OR the internet. You can lock the phone so no one else can use it, send a text or command from a computer to TRACK THE DEVICE. It will automatically turn on GPS and send location as often as you choose. Avast works on smart phones only. That is the downside. Avast does the alarm thing also. "THIS PHONE HAS BEEN LOST OR STOLEN" with a siren.
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Even better I could build an app for you to do that as avast won't be able to start 3g send message to carrier etc etc it'll need Internet access up and running before hand also no call records while a custom made app can do all of this
If you like the idea just drop me a pm
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Honestly, what do you need 3G for? It doesn't help track. GPS and Wi-Fi do that. Watch your cost. Avast has already been written. Call logs? What for. Check out the play store for an app called M-SPY. You text the phone and it will call you back. Avast does the rest.
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Honestly, what do you need 3G for? It doesn't help track. GPS and Wi-Fi do that. Watch your cost. Avast has already been written. Call logs? What for. Check out the play store for an app called M-SPY. You text the phone and it will call you back. Avast does the rest.
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I want to track the phone while it is on the move on the motorcycle in real-time. How could I do that with Wi-Fi? Additionally, free and open unsecured Wi-Fi hotspots are not available everywhere. There is no guarantee that the phone would be able to connect and send data once it reached its final destination wherever the thieves live/work. In fact, even with 3G there is no guarantee as there are always cellular dead spots.
Thanks for the recommendations.
My point exactly. Avast uses available Wi-Fi along with GPS to track in real time, displayed on a map. I don't believe you can use 3g for that. Avast has the siren, tracking and other features. My-spy has the call feature. Avast will automatically turn on GPS for tracking if it is off. Turn on a siren when you choose, for recovery. Text is for if you want to use your cell. You can do everything from a computer. The thieves will not know, as all this will be hidden, unless you lock the phone. M-Spy can review the text and call you back so you can listen to the noise around the phone without the perps knowing. These two together fit what it sounds like you need. Avast is free for the FULL version, forever. I am not sure about the cost of M-SPY.
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My point exactly. Avast uses available Wi-Fi along with GPS to track in real time, displayed on a map. I don't believe you can use 3g for that. Avast has the siren, tracking and other features. My-spy has the call feature. Avast will automatically turn on GPS for tracking if it is off. Turn on a siren when you choose, for recovery. Text is for if you want to use your cell. You can do everything from a computer. The thieves will not know, as all this will be hidden, unless you lock the phone. M-Spy can review the text and call you back so you can listen to the noise around the phone without the perps knowing. These two together fit what it sounds like you need. Avast is free for the FULL version, forever. I am not sure about the cost of M-SPY.
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So if there is no Wi-Fi available then your solution won't work? That sounds far too risky for my plan to work. The country where I live does not have ubiquitous free Wi-Fi access, especially in the shadier parts of town where the thieves are likely to reside.
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So if there is no Wi-Fi available then your solution won't work? That sounds far too risky for my plan to work. The country where I live does not have ubiquitous free Wi-Fi access, especially in the shadier parts of town where the thieves are likely to reside.
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You really don't want to rely on public wifi anyone can mess with them
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You do not use Wi-Fi for tracking, really. You use GPS and my recommended setup will work
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I use avast, and I'm not sure if gps is all that's needed or not.
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Is your phone rooted with antitheft root installed? Avast uses GPS and Wi-Fi, if Wi-Fi is available, to track the phone. Research it.
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Is your phone rooted with antitheft root installed? Avast uses GPS and Wi-Fi, if Wi-Fi is available, to track the phone. Research it.
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Lol.
I'm a little shocked at someone asking me if my phone is rooted, I'll admit I was literally speechless for a second haha.
What I meant was that I have it installed already but haven't checked out the tracking yet. I tried it once with the gps turned off at work, and wasn't sure how to turn the gps on to see the unit. Theoretically, gps is one way, isn't it? It grabs the satellite signal that's beamed down and triangulates the position. So it would need some sort of data to send that data back to the end user online. Given that wifi access points are not guaranteed among criminals, I'd cast my vote for finding some way to turn on mobile data from the app also.
Btw, he's using an HTC Inspire most likely running my Rom. Yes, I'm sure it's rooted.
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Lol.
I'm a little shocked at someone asking me if my phone is rooted, I'll admit I was literally speechless for a second haha.
What I meant was that I have it installed already but haven't checked out the tracking yet. I tried it once with the gps turned off at work, and wasn't sure how to turn the gps on to see the unit. Theoretically, gps is one way, isn't it? It grabs the satellite signal that's beamed down and triangulates the position. So it would need some sort of data to send that data back to the end user online. Given that wifi access points are not guaranteed among criminals, I'd cast my vote for finding some way to turn on mobile data from the app also.
Btw, he's using an HTC Inspire most likely running my Rom. Yes, I'm sure it's rooted.
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HAD to ask. rotflmao.:silly:
when you installed avast, did you install the antitheft feature ROOTED? IF SO, Access the app on your phone and view all of the settings for it.Also, go online to AVAST and login to your account. Avast will automatically turn on the GPS (NOT Wi-Fi??) on the target phone, SECRETLY. you can set it to report position at any interval. Avast has many more functions, also. maybe the one you mentioned.
AGAIN - LMAO HAHAHAHAHA.:cyclops:
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M-SPY does the phone listening feature.
I tried it when I got it (yes root installed with anti theft in the system partition) but I couldn't get it to work the first time for some reason. I'll try again tomorrow night and see if it works now. It's been a few versions back.
If it does work as advertised, I'd count avast as one of the easiest and most cost effective options you can find.
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I tried it when I got it (yes root installed with anti theft in the system partition) but I couldn't get it to work the first time for some reason. I'll try again tomorrow night and see if it works now. It's been a few versions back.
If it does work as advertised, I'd count avast as one of the easiest and most cost effective options you can find.
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EXACTLY!! IT'S FREE.
Make sure you have setup ALL of the options. ANTI-THEFT and SETTINGS options. It is way easier to send commands from a computer but the "friends" numbers can send the text. on smart phones with a decent size screen, you can send the commands from the browser. one last thing- make sure avast has administrative rights. either in settings or anti-theft options.
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You do not use Wi-Fi for tracking, really. You use GPS and my recommended setup will work
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I'm not sure if you just don't understand how these things work ... the phone uses GPS to track itself: yes. But how to get the GPS data from the phone to me in a different location? The GPS data must be sent wirelessly from the phone.
This requires WiFi or a Cellular (4G, 3G, Edge, etc) connection.
I cannot track the phone with a GPS connection alone.
I can't rely on WiFi to be available wherever the thieves end up.
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I'm not sure if you just don't understand how these things work ... the phone uses GPS to track itself: yes. But how to get the GPS data from the phone to me in a different location? The GPS data must be sent wirelessly from the phone.
This requires WiFi or a Cellular (4G, 3G, Edge, etc) connection.
I cannot track the phone with a GPS connection alone.
I can't rely on WiFi to be available wherever the thieves end up.
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I told you about the app but you weren't interested bad luck bro
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The regular data on the phone will work fine. No need for faster data transfer such as Wi-Fi or 3g. Remotely turning on and off the data can be googled. Maybe there is already a way to do that.
go to the google market and search for XTRASEC PHONE LOCATOR. Sounds exactly like what you want!!
Sorry if I come across rude but try the search function. Everything I have posted to you, I used GOOGLE to find.
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just FYI followup to anyway looking to do the same...
Android Lost (androidlost.com) is an incredible tracking tool and completely free! (though I recommend supporting the developer by buying the "premium" version, all the "premium" features are also available for free)
Also, Avast! Anti-theft as recommended above is also great, and it does report over 3G or Edge or WiFi
I have samsung galaxy S4, how the hell do i disable the E911 GPS ?
I dont want to remove the ICON only..
i want to be able to Disable the E911 GPS.
I have my phone rooted, what next??
this is the newer samsung ME7 From Verizon
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Anybody??? There has to be a way to disable the E911 GPS right????
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Sorry but there is no way to disable the E911 without rewriting that capability in the ROM.
If you turn off all your location services it will make the fix less accurate, but it will still fairly good depending on how many cell towers are within site.
Also, unless you call 911 anybody accessing you location through your cell provide needs a court order.
Also, and you kinda touched on it, but anytime your phone is on VZW knows within a mile or so, where you are. And with a court order they can still turn over where your cell pings. If you are that paranoid about it, don't use a cell, or use burners. I don't like the government anymore than anyone else, but if you use a cell you're open to tracking regardless.
Yup
What about using the gps location with xprivacy? Seems that i can set it to any random location..
Would that actually interfere with gps ?
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What about using the fake gps location with xprivacy? Seems that i can set it to any random location..
Would that actually interfere with gps tracking ability with e 911?
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Doubtful. Because I think they would still be able to triangulate your position via cell towers. I could be wrong, but I don't see it working. Even if 911 can't access triangulation data, your wireless provider still has access to that.
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What about using the fake gps location with xprivacy? Seems that i can set it to any random location..
Would that actually interfere with gps tracking ability with e 911?
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Definitely not.
E911 uses GPS only as a secondary source, and the operators can access your approximate location directly from the carrier.
Using XPrivacy will help with any standard APKs that you protect it with, however.
As has already been mentioned before, you really shouldn't worry about someone tracking you unnecessarily without a court order, as it's a severe punishment to do so, and most people won't bother with the risk.
If you have some legitimate fear for your life, turn off the phone and stop using one that's tied to your name/address - or just stop using one altogether (safest).
just want some privacy.. we have none anymore.
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Definitely not.
E911 uses GPS only as a secondary source, and the operators can access your approximate location directly from the carrier.
Using XPrivacy will help with any standard APKs that you protect it with, however.
As has already been mentioned before, you really shouldn't worry about someone tracking you unnecessarily without a court order, as it's a severe punishment to do so, and most people won't bother with the risk.
If you have some legitimate fear for your life, turn off the phone and stop using one that's tied to your name/address - or just stop using one altogether (safest).
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Happened today. Was peacefully browsing internet with Chrome using my mobile data when suddenly I lost access to the internet. No messages shown on screen or anything.
Chrome won't load pages, showing the DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NO_INTERNET error code. All other apps that use the internet immediately show an error saying theres no internet access. Additionally, when I ping a remote address (eg. 8.8.8.8) via terminal, I'm getting spammed with "Destination Port Unreachable" so much that the terminal app hangs and I have to force close it.
I already confirmed it's not a carrier issue, other SIM cards show the same issue on this phone, when all of them works on a different device. I tried changing between 2G/3G/4G, reinstalling my carrier's VPN profile for internet connectivity, staying in airplane mode for about 10 minutes (per carrier's recommendation), also tried restarting the phone and even wiping the cache partition.
WiFi internet works fine, so does the rest of my mobile functionalities (SMS, calling). Any ideas about that one?
There are many reports of this happening. It has something to do with the fragile antenna connector/wire. You'll have to open the back cover and check if the wire integrity and connector is intact.
If you are in warranty, send it straight to service center.
WiFi and Bluetooth are on one chip. So if one works, the other should work too.
Cellular is on separate chip.
Good luck my friend. I hope you can get your phone fixed.
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There are many reports of this happening. It has something to do with the fragile antenna connector/wire. You'll have to open the back cover and check if the wire integrity and connector is intact.
If you are in warranty, send it straight to service center.
WiFi and Bluetooth are on one chip. So if one works, the other should work too.
Cellular is on separate chip.
Good luck my friend. I hope you can get your phone fixed.
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That's strange, I'd think a loose antenna connection would not be picky about only impacting internet connectivity but not phone calls and messaging?
Either way I can have a look at this, never opened the back cover on this phone, I assume it doesn't void warranty?
Okay, since I was only evaluating MIUI 11 (flashed it a few days after release) and there were already a few things that annoyed me with it, I decided to pull the proverbial trigger and switch to something else.
And I'm glad that I did, giving LineageOS 16 a try (build 17.11.19) and mobile data is now working exactly like it used to do Good news, since it doesn't seem to be a hardware issue, but also bad news, since it seems like MIUI 11 has some sort of an internal issue that can permanently (?) break mobile data. Well, I'm not willing to put up with it, hopefully somebody else more skilled than me can discover what could have been wrong
guys, i just lost my data connection. 4G logo is available but no internet. I swap from Sim1 to Sim2 slot also the same. I have tested my simcard with iphone 6 and it is working.