I'm a recent Lumia 800 owner and impatient for updates. With the availability of 8107.11501 from DPM (downloaded OK) I might give it a go. Perhaps someone could tell me the difference between, say, a UK image and a DE image? And what difference is there between a Cyan and Black image?
Thanks.
conorn said:
I'm a recent Lumia 800 owner and impatient for updates. With the availability of 8107.11501 from DPM (downloaded OK) I might give it a go. Perhaps someone could tell me the difference between, say, a UK image and a DE image? And what difference is there between a Cyan and Black image?
Thanks.
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There are not so much differences.
1) Some countries have very specific apps bundled (example: switzerland has a train schedule app)
2) Some countries don't have all nokia apps preinstalled. Example: HK version is missing nokia drive, nokia music, and so on.
3) The default Language after first boot may be different. Example: the Netherlands ROM starts with the NL Language by default. You can change it.
Otherwise the ROM are identical and you can easily add\remove missing or unneeded apps from marketplace app, so what is really important is the firmware version
4) Avoid far east ROMs, they usually don't have nokia drive, that is the only app that you can't install later from marketplace
The difference between colours are related to default theme colours and i guess some camera software settings to balance the effects of phone colour on the pictures you take.
Thank you for a very complete explanation.
Which Country Variant ROM is having all the apps that are preloaded like Nokia Drive, Nokia Maps, Nokia Mix ????
UK has them.
Well, not Nokia Mix, because that doesn't exist... I presume you're referring to the Mix Radio function of Nokia Music?
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Which Country Variant ROM is having all the apps that are preloaded like Nokia Drive, Nokia Maps, Nokia Mix ????
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My unbranded UK version came loaded with Nokia Music, Nokia Maps, and a place marker for Nokia Drive. I had to go to the market place to actually get Nokia Drive installed.
It also came with a bunch of other special apps unique to Nokia. I removed many of them.
Mine had drive pre-installed, wonder why yours only had a marker. But yes there was also some stuff that was instantly removed.
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Mine had drive pre-installed, wonder why yours only had a marker. But yes there was also some stuff that was instantly removed.
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When I went to open Nokia Drive, it loaded a page telling me to get it from the Marketplace. Odd.
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Hi Fellow XDA'ers!
I have a touch dual (with WM6.5).
I like the look of the Hero but have a few reservations.
Firstly, I read posts that it struggles to sync with Outlook!!?? - can this be sorted? - ActivSync (by BTooth) is very handy and does the job well.
Secondly, I like having the apps such as IGO8 or TOMTOM to hand on my phone, should I need it.
Can I install these apps (or similar) on the Hero?....In other words - can WM apps work on Android?
thanks
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Firstly, I read posts that it struggles to sync with Outlook!!?? - can this be sorted? - ActivSync (by BTooth) is very handy and does the job well.
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I think syncing with Outlook over Bluetooth is out of the question. It can sync Contacts and Calendar (only those two) over the USB cable with the use of the 'HTC Sync' software. That software is not available _yet_ on the HTC site, but apparently it IS included on the memorycard included with the Orange bundle that is now shipping.
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Secondly, I like having the apps such as IGO8 or TOMTOM to hand on my phone, should I need it.
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Those two applications are not (yet?) available for Android. There are a few other navigation solutions available, but I'm under the impression they are not the level of iGO or TomTom. Also, I have no idea on which countries they support or what price they are available at.
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Can I install these apps (or similar) on the Hero?....In other words - can WM apps work on Android?
thanks
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No. There are a whole bunch of Android apps, but software made for Windows Mobile will simply not work (and never will) on Android. They will have to make a special Android version for it, and for utilities and tweaks that is simply not easily done.
dipje said:
There are a few other navigation solutions available, but I'm under the impression they are not the level of iGO or TomTom. Also, I have no idea on which countries they support or what price they are available at.
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ALKs CoPilot Live 8 is available on the market and is quite competitively priced at £22.60 for a one region version (e.g. UK maps).
I've not played with it extensively, as I bought it as a backup for my regular Garmin satnav unit, but it is definitely much slicker than some of the other alternatives for Android that I've tried (e.g. AndNav).
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
ALKs CoPilot Live 8 is available on the market and is quite competitively priced at £22.60 for a one region version (e.g. UK maps).
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Seems to be a good TomTom alternative! Thanks for the Tip! And they even have 'whole of western europe' or only 'benelux'. That makes it much more affordable if you never leave The Netherlands for example .
Since I'm an Android newbie myself (well, not even an Android newbie, still waiting for my Hero): On the CoPilot site, on 'where to buy' to say to go to the Android market. But they also have three picture, some sort of square barcode. I've seen those more around Android oriented pages. How do they work?
It's a QR code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code) which is essentially a 2-dimensional barcode that can hold a variety of data. In this case, it is holding a URL.
If you download a barcode reader from the market (e.g. Barcode Scanner by ZXing team, which is the one I use) you can use the phones camera to "read" the barcode and it will then allow you to jump to the URL in the browser.
Regards,
Dave
Winmo apps on Android
You never know what could happen guys!
I currently dual boot windows 7 ultimate and Linux Ubuntu.
And as all linux users are aware, there is a nice little app called wine, Wine allows us to run and use many windows apps in a Linux enviroment...
Cant be that much different with Android (linux) and windows mobile.. can it?
Would be a fantastic step and i think possibly the final push for many winmo users!
Im still struggling to choose my self....From HD to Hero?? mmmm
There are few things you need to know about the young android:
1. You cannot save apps to memory card unless rooted.
2. You cannot receive files via bluetooth unless rooted.
overall, Android is a lot better than Winmob
Sorry if this is a stupid question :-(
I run a number of Java applets under WINMO via an applet manager (ESmertec for example). Will these run on Android?
CoPilot is working brilliantly on my Magic and I'll be putting it on my Hero when I get it at weekend.
Here's a great thing - any apps that I've purchased from the Android Market are tied to my google checkout account - When I sign in on my Hero and go to market, those apps will show as purchased and downloadable for me. Also my calendar and contacts will automatically sync to my Hero.
As far as WM apps are concerned, I've used both WM6 and android devices - Not missing anything on my Magic that I had on WM now that Turn By Turn Nav is there. Some apps are already ported over - Docs To go, and recently Touchpal Keyboards.
The ability to search for, find, pay for (if needed) and download software on the fly is just priceless. The fact that most apps are free or very cheap is even better. I'd not go back to WinMo now for anything...
However, you're just gonna have to get one in your hand and see for yourself - its all personal preference amongst the top handsets really.
well my upgrade is being delivered in the morning! yey! HTC Hero on orange..
Wonder if tomtom will port any time soon? should be an easy job considering the tom tom units are linux driven!
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Wonder if tomtom will port any time soon? should be an easy job considering the tom tom units are linux driven!
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I've been a TomTom user (on my HTC Trinity and HTC Touch Pro) for almost 3 years now. My HTC Hero will be arriving on Monday morning and I'm actually pretty excited about the change I'll be making to CoPilot.
Not that there's anything wrong with TomTom, but the newer version of CoPilot looks very cool, and it might be nice to try something different.
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I've been a TomTom user (on my HTC Trinity and HTC Touch Pro) for almost 3 years now. My HTC Hero will be arriving on Monday morning and I'm actually pretty excited about the change I'll be making to CoPilot.
Not that there's anything wrong with TomTom, but the newer version of CoPilot looks very cool, and it might be nice to try something different.
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I have heard a lot of people complaining about the version of CoPilot crashing on the Hero, not sure why this is. TomTom are releasing an iPhone version so who knows, might make its way over to Android in about 3 years?
For me, Copilot certainly crashed. It was not a patch on the stability of Garmin XT. The application felt unfinished with a lot of times when not a full crash, lack of keyboard reponse. Tbh, this failure was the straw that broke the Hero's back
I've not had a single problem with copilot on my magic. Fully tested with postcodes etc and long journeys. Its VERY cheap compared to most satnavs, can be used without any data assistance at all, and very quick to reroute etc.
I have heard about some probs but they have mostly seemed to be related to people trying to hack it or get the maps running without paying, and I know that copilot has added a few layers of security since I bought mine for magic - initially it just installed and needed your google checkout number.
Then it needed that, and you then got a license code and device ID thingy.
I had an update early on from version .303 to .327 which made mine stop loading - One email to support, told me to uninstall ALL, including the maps folder, and it was back working perfectly... I personally think the voices of folks having probs trying to get it running without paying are clouding the issue a bit - I've only heard from one (cbailey) who I know paid, but still got crashes.
Daisy - Was happy with my G1 (since Jan) Happy with my Magic(since beginning of June), and gonna be happy with my Hero I think...
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I've not had a single problem with copilot on my magic.
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You're in the UK right? I have been looking into copilot as a replacement for my old TomTom once I get my Hero. And although copilot said on their website they have european versions, if I browse the store (though Cyrket for example) I only see their USA map pack / application. Is this location / localization dependant somehow? Why can't I see the european maps in the market?
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Daisy - Was happy with my G1 (since Jan) Happy with my Magic(since beginning of June), and gonna be happy with my Hero I think...
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I think we got a big android fan here
In the Market, you get the option for a One Region map - Uk and Ireland comes under that - for £25.99 (Market shows 22 something but then checkout adds VAT for UK)
I think these options are only seen/available on market for android phones. I think they are not offered as products for other platforms, and you only get details once you have bought CoPilot 8 for android.
I personally downloaded CoPilot Central and got my maps via PC through that. You get a Membership name and password when you checkout at google Checkout - I was sent an email with details of that. The actual copilot programe for android downloads to your fone OTA like other apps, but the map fetcher is on PC. I think you CAN get the maps OTA to your fone, but I thougyht that seemed silly and would take ages and be heavy on your data allowance etc.
CoPilot central is free I think - You can get it here
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/central/
Daisy xxx
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I think you CAN get the maps OTA to your fone, but I thougyht that seemed silly and would take ages and be heavy on your data allowance etc.
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You can get them OTA direct onto the phone via cellular data, but the program advises you do it over WiFi.
Regards,
Dave
cbailey said:
For me, Copilot certainly crashed. It was not a patch on the stability of Garmin XT. The application felt unfinished with a lot of times when not a full crash, lack of keyboard reponse. Tbh, this failure was the straw that broke the Hero's back
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No problems at all with CoPilot APART from TouchFlo seems to lock up when I exit. Not sure if anyone else has this problem.
Other than that, it has no lag what-so-ever, which I used to always have with TomTom. Big thumbs up for me, even more so when I sort out the locking issue when exit, but thats no biggie.
I own an LG Optimus P500. The version I bought was a neverlocked version (or so I've been told). The original application pack included, among others : Layar,
CarHome , LG App Advisor, Back-up Utility.
After updating to the latest avaialable version (the one that brings the Android version to 2.2.1), Layar, CarHome, App Advisor and others disappeared. Further more, the SIM Toolkit App (the one that lists the available services) has been renamed to Vodafone, although Orange is my wireless provider and the phone didn't show any sign of previous Vodafone branding.
Could it be because the update was destined to a wider array of devices (including Vodafone branded ones that never really had Layar &the rest of the apps).
Nothing on the subject ?
Not that it matters, I was simply wondering.
I've filed a small complaint mail to LG with my problem. Quite surprinsgly, they called me on the spot and explained to me the next:
-Eastern Europe (Romania in particular) versions are meant to be sold with Vodafone only. The firmware updates for this area are destined for Vodafone locked phones and are developed with Vodafone's input.
-The disappeared apps were seen as ''previously installed''.
-The Vodafone name for the SIM Toolkit stems from the same source.
I've got a non-UK lumia 800 so it didnt come preloaded with nokia drive and music. I've set my regions to UK. anyone know how to force download these apps onto a non-UK phone? (I kinda bought a nokia WP for these apps)
They should be in the Marketplace, check that you have set your Zune account region to the UK.
Nokia Drive/Music only comes preloaded from the factory and are not on the marketplace. You can however get Nokia Maps by searching the marketplace for 'Nokia' and if you can't find them that way in the Windows Phone 7 Development forum there is a post with xap's you can deploy to get marketplaces from various OEM's on your phone.
Hi All,
I'm planning to get the Nokia 920. I've had Samsung Focus (original) since WP7 first launched and have many apps that I've bought.
How does it work upgrading from WP7.5 to WP8?
I know somewhere online on the WP7 site, there is a list of all apps. Is there an easy way to re-download those apps or do I have to search and download them individually? Also, what about other stuff on the phone?
Is there an easy way to back-up and upgrade to Nokia 920?
I've heard about WP8 not supporting Zune and am kind of confused how it works.
Has anybody here upgraded from 7.5 to WP8?
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Hi All,
I'm planning to get the Nokia 920. I've had Samsung Focus (original) since WP7 first launched and have many apps that I've bought.
How does it work upgrading from WP7.5 to WP8?
I know somewhere online on the WP7 site, there is a list of all apps. Is there an easy way to re-download those apps or do I have to search and download them individually? Also, what about other stuff on the phone?
Is there an easy way to back-up and upgrade to Nokia 920?
I've heard about WP8 not supporting Zune and am kind of confused how it works.
Has anybody here upgraded from 7.5 to WP8?
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You can redownload your apps from the web. when you goto your previous purchase's you can "send to phone" in order for it to redownload on the phone.
Also, for purchases you can click buy on the phone as if you were going to buy it again and it will give it to you again for free.
Montastic said:
Hi All,
I'm planning to get the Nokia 920. I've had Samsung Focus (original) since WP7 first launched and have many apps that I've bought.
How does it work upgrading from WP7.5 to WP8?
I know somewhere online on the WP7 site, there is a list of all apps. Is there an easy way to re-download those apps or do I have to search and download them individually? Also, what about other stuff on the phone?
Is there an easy way to back-up and upgrade to Nokia 920?
I've heard about WP8 not supporting Zune and am kind of confused how it works.
Has anybody here upgraded from 7.5 to WP8?
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As far as Zune, Zune has died. Its been replaced in part by Xbox Music. If you had a Zune Pass, it converted to an XBOX Music pass. You can check out the details over at Xbox.com/music.
WP8 does not use Zune to sync anymore. Its a convoluted method but there are multiple ways to get music over to your phone. They involve a new( but not better) content syncing app, and the Cloud.
In general, all your old content should play ok from Zune to Xbox and onto the phone. Some people have had problems and MS is looking into what resolution are available.
Phone updates are now handled OTA and do not require being plugged into an app....that we know of yet.
The general concept of Xbox music is ok. With Cloud based streaming, and availability across all devices, its a good idea. Implementation has been...less than awesome, yet. I've had very few problems with it...but some people have...
Anyway, in general, you shouldn't have a problem.
I see that online on the WP7 website, it shows my WP7 purchases - unfortunately, it doesn't load up all the apps that I have downloaded. Seems like it shows on the paid apps. I have a bunch of free apps and it would be a major pain to try and find them all and install them again on the new phone.
Anybody find a better way to do this?
Hey guys
So today I decided to give the Windows phone a shot. Been an avid Android user and follower since it started But decided that I should really give the other operating systems a shot. I just went and got myself a Lumia 925 and if I'm correct that phone is T-Mobile's variant of the 920 correct? I didn't see a thread for the 925 so I think this is where I belong. So with that here are a few questions I have before I dive into my brand new 925.
Just briefly looking through the forum here, I noticed some ROM's here. Are these different versions of the WP software or are these developers personal tweaks to it? I know with Android depending on what phone you have, you can root it and install the latest version of Android on it, currently 4.3, even if your phone prior is only at 4.1.2.
My other question is what apps does everyone here recommend on getting. I know the app market here is really lacking and its a total shame about that. I am pretty integrated into the whole google network (Gmail, Drive, Music, G+, etc). I use some social media apps but those are't too important to me. Suggestions for other apps would be amazing.
Really looking forward in giving this a test drive and in advance thanks for all of your help! :highfive:
no major differences in many variants of same versions... just every operator have own branded versions of firmware.. no way to root or unlock phone (not talk about SIM unlock)
phone market have enough good applications...
but Google and Microsoft have "cold" war and dont except major Google apps on WP platform
Nokia have own alternative for maps, HERE bunch of apps (Maps, Drive, Transit and City Lens) and very good Nokia Music service...
first at all install SysApp Pusher to easy access to Nokia apps and system apps updates
also check for Store Deals and myFreeApp to get notifications about promotional period of pay apps to get it for free
for Instagram use 6Tag
also check guides on http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8
for offline navigation you can use Nokia Drive+ or pay for Navigon USA, Garmin StreetPilot or CoPilot GPS (if you have legal licences you can use it on CoPilot without purchase new)
GetThemAll to download stuff from websites (videos, etc.)
Stop the Music! for stopping (kill) media player (or free alternative from market, just use search)
dxdy said:
no major differences in many variants of same versions... just every operator have own branded versions of firmware.. no way to root or unlock phone (not talk about SIM unlock)
phone market have enough good applications...
but Google and Microsoft have "cold" war and dont except major Google apps on WP platform
Nokia have own alternative for maps, HERE bunch of apps (Maps, Drive, Transit and City Lens) and very good Nokia Music service...
first at all install SysApp Pusher to easy access to Nokia apps and system apps updates
also check for Store Deals and myFreeApp to get notifications about promotional period of pay apps to get it for free
for Instagram use 6Tag
also check guides on http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8
for offline navigation you can use Nokia Drive+ or pay for Navigon USA, Garmin StreetPilot or CoPilot GPS (if you have legal licences you can use it on CoPilot without purchase new)
GetThemAll to download stuff from websites (videos, etc.)
Stop the Music! for stopping (kill) media player (or free alternative from market, just use search)
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Awesome, thanks for all the info will definitely check out all the apps you suggested. Ya I know Google and Microsoft aren't on the best of terms as of right now which only really hurts the users in the long run. Thanks again for your speedy reply!
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Awesome, thanks for all the info will definitely check out all the apps you suggested. Ya I know Google and Microsoft aren't on the best of terms as of right now which only really hurts the users in the long run. Thanks again for your speedy reply!
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925 is enhanced version of 920 regarding camera, but without wireless charging integrated and also slimmer due this fact
Don't try 920 ROMs on 925 and vise verse..you will brick your phone.
Don't switch. Android might be slower but it has so much more to offer. There is no free video player on the Windows 8 phone. Nothing that can play MKV for free. There is no built in flash support so sites on the web that still use flash don't work. That is an issue with all mobile devices now though. You can't block unwanted calls. There is no app that allows you to do that as there is no app that is allowed access to the kernel thanks to MS protection Nazi's. As soon as my contract ends next year I am going back to G4. This phone is just locked down too tight.
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Don't switch. Android might be slower but it has so much more to offer. There is no free video player on the Windows 8 phone. Nothing that can play MKV for free. There is no built in flash support so sites on the web that still use flash don't work. That is an issue with all mobile devices now though. You can't block unwanted calls. There is no app that allows you to do that as there is no app that is allowed access to the kernel thanks to MS protection Nazi's. As soon as my contract ends next year I am going back to G4. This phone is just locked down too tight.
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Actually in the amber update that is now a built in ability to block both calls and text from specific numbers, though you have always had the ability to save a number and set a blank ringtone for it.
Most of the videos I play are either podcast or streamed via PlexApp both of which work great, and if not, you can always convert them using Zune, granted it is a bit of work.
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This phone is just locked down too tight.
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That's what it makes it so fun fiddling with it!
dont forget about the wifi calling that t-mobile has.. while the other ROMs do not has it.
Since the Amber Update Gmail works fine, as does Google Calendar, both in the Native WP apps.
Get Metrotalk for Google Voice. It takes a few moments to configure but once you do it works as well as Google Voie for IOS including the ability to call from the App.
I too just switched from Android and I'm still on the fence. Most of the Apps I use are here but the are some near dealbreakers like Sirius/XM and my IP Camera app that are not present and probably never will be.
On the other hand, there are a lot of nice included features like SkyDrive and Nokia Pro Cam. Unfortunately, the choice is not clear cut. You have to figure out whats important to you.
I myself was hell bent on being a one device guy. Had the Galaxy Note and Note 2 so I'd have EVERYTHING all at once. Now with the Lumias (especially the 1020) getting such great cameras I may stick with Windows Phone. I do still have an Android Tablet though to get me by.
Then again, Sony's stuff at IFA like the Z1 or the QX cameras are so intruiging. Though, the Lenses won't work with Wndows Phone, or any phone bigger than 5 inches.
So, once again, I'm left scratching my head. Do I go back to the best all around device like the Galaxy Note 3? Or do I stick with the best camera? Or do I compromise, get a middling Android Phone like the S3 or Optimus G so I can slap one of the Sony QX lenses on it? So many decisions!