Connect a Camera? - Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet

Now as the Nook tablet does not have a camera, I was wondering if there was any thought of the possibility of somehow getting an external camera to work with it. Whether this be some sort of webcam or what I have no idea. I just thought I'd throw the idea out there and maybe someone has some brainstorming thoughts that could help.
So, any thoughts on rigging up some sort of camera setup or how we could approach this?

It's not possible atm with the stock B&N os. USB hosting has to be activated with custom ROMs in order for you to connect the digital camera via the micro USB port.

hwong96 said:
It's not possible atm with the stock B&N os. USB hosting has to be activated with custom ROMs in order for you to connect the digital camera via the micro USB port.
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on that note then, are there cameras that can be used with the android os that we could take advantage of when cm9 is made public?

Any digital camera should be able to connect to the Nook Tablet once the USB hosting mode is enabled in the custom ROM. The Nook Color with CM7 allows users to review digital camera pics when connected to the micro USB in host mode. Fattire and other devs are working on CM9 for Nook Color to allow USB host. Now that the bootloader is cracked, custom roms and CM9 are sure to follow. Patience.

I'm perfectly patient thanks. My question was simply to do with if its possible at all and if theres any precedence in the matter. After doing some research (some of which was I found similar to what you stated) it seems that it is, it'll just take a bit of work, as with any of this tinkering.

Apparently the hardware has Bluetooth, so it CM9 can harness that power, there will be another potential connection point for an imaging device.

Looks like no antenna though, so range will be <1m.

That wouldn't be so bad for such peripherals like a camera or keyboard.
In fact, the only bluetooth devices I use with my Xoom are my keyboard and mouse.

tinycam sure works well and is visible in the market so no need to do the tb/db shuffle. I haven't tried it for a dedicated cam but if it works with all the others I don't see whay it shouldn't.

probably a bad idea
How about using a wifi based camera? We know wifi works reliably.

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DSLR Remote for Android ?

the Iphone works with an DSRL Remote app. I have an HTC HD2 and it works with winmobile 6 and with android now. Does somebody know an app which works on android or winmobile 6 like the DSRL Remote camcorder app ?
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Carsten
been thinking of that for some time now, would LOVE that. But I read somewhere that it may be a problem to use the USB port as host...
http://www.gphoto.org/ ?
i recently found out that it is possible to do this with a nintendo ds but it requires some DIY work or paying someone to do this for you, surprisingly even in germany there seem to be some people building these.
my uncle bought one of these cables/modules for his canon 5dmk2 a few weeks ago. since i got my hands on it I thought about how awesome such a feature would be (preferably wireless) on an a phone.
I would love something like that! An android phone would make the holy grail of dSLR remote controls. Time intervals, exposure settings, super-smooth HDRI with bracketing of multiple photos, live view, hell even motion activated shooting (figure out a way to detect motion from image through the live view and trigger a shutter release every time that happens).
Anyone up for this?! I'll be getting both my SGS and 5DMKII in about a month, super willing to beta-test
I'd love this too for Nikon Devices!
minus30 said:
I'd love this too for Nikon Devices!
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It is possible. Only drawback is that a laptop is needed like with the iphone app.
So a possible setup would be like this:
Camera <-> USB cable <-> Laptop running Linux <-> WLAN/Edge/3G <-> Android
The only big dislike is the laptop in that chain
klaus27 said:
It is possible. Only drawback is that a laptop is needed like with the iphone app.
So a possible setup would be like this:
Camera <-> USB cable <-> Laptop running Linux <-> WLAN/Edge/3G <-> Android
The only big dislike is the laptop in that chain
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It's the same setup used for the iPhone, it's basically a remote control setup and I can't really see how it helps that much, it feels like more of a gimmick rather than something helpful since you still need to carry a laptop with you.
Now, if the camera could be directly connected to the phone, that'd be awesome, since you pretty much carry a phone with you at all times.
zeusalmighty said:
It's the same setup used for the iPhone, it's basically a remote control setup and I can't really see how it helps that much, it feels like more of a gimmick rather than something helpful since you still need to carry a laptop with you.
Now, if the camera could be directly connected to the phone, that'd be awesome, since you pretty much carry a phone with you at all times.
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That's the point. It is not possible... well, everything is, but the effort cannot be worth the outcome.
It is more likely to do it with an Arduino board with Wlan chip and USB host.
But then again, you have to reverse engineer the Nikon and Canon protocols or use the linux library.... Should be possible, but you need to buy some hardware anyway.
Check this:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...h/gphoto/remote.html&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de
Cheap plug-computers like sheevaplug or this one: http://www.ionicsplug.com/cumulus.html would make it kind of easy as they run linux, have USB connector(s) and have WLAN (sheevaplug needs USB WLAN stick).
Cross-compiling gphoto library, writing a software which talks through gphoto to the cam and report the capabilities back to the connected Android / Iphone.
Only (major) drawback is that those plug computers need a power supply. I have seen someone running sheevaplug with solar panel .
Sheevaplug is around 75€, so quite affordable.
I need to connect my 5DM2 and check whether things like touch-focus, live preview and stuff would be possible...
What do you think about the power plug issue?
Hehe, I like how you assumed that I can understand these things I dont
At work atm but will try to read through the article, but as I understand so far, this guy uses a small linux computer that can communicate through a WLAN adapter so you basically have a wifi remote control. Looks pretty darn cool, especially for the money, and using a solar panel would be awesome!
Only thing is that it doesn't have that much to do with android as far as I can tell, if it's a web interface then you can use it with any device, right?
What I was thinking was more in the likes of a replacement for the $100+ timer triggers with your phone. I think it should be possible but maybe people wouldn't invest in it (though I think they should).
BTW, I just remembered that you can also trigger the camera through the headphone jack, as with those diy remote releases. Do you think there could be a way to use the SGS headphone jack to cause shutter releases? You wouldn't get any control of the settings from the phone, but you could still program time intervals or bulb shots! Hey, even motion sensing shots, provided you dock your phone some place. And you have to admit it doesn't sound too difficult, right?
See the diy thing here: http://www.instructables.com/id/Rem...or-Canon-Cameras/step2/Cut-off-the-ear-peice/
If/when someone does make something like this, I would think a small netbook would be sufficiently portable, compared to a 15" or 17" laptop, to use as the "host" device.
zeusalmighty said:
Hehe, I like how you assumed that I can understand these things I dont
At work atm but will try to read through the article, but as I understand so far, this guy uses a small linux computer that can communicate through a WLAN adapter so you basically have a wifi remote control. Looks pretty darn cool, especially for the money, and using a solar panel would be awesome!
Only thing is that it doesn't have that much to do with android as far as I can tell, if it's a web interface then you can use it with any device, right?
What I was thinking was more in the likes of a replacement for the $100+ timer triggers with your phone. I think it should be possible but maybe people wouldn't invest in it (though I think they should).
BTW, I just remembered that you can also trigger the camera through the headphone jack, as with those diy remote releases. Do you think there could be a way to use the SGS headphone jack to cause shutter releases? You wouldn't get any control of the settings from the phone, but you could still program time intervals or bulb shots! Hey, even motion sensing shots, provided you dock your phone some place. And you have to admit it doesn't sound too difficult, right?
See the diy thing here: http://www.instructables.com/id/Rem...or-Canon-Cameras/step2/Cut-off-the-ear-peice/
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I see. The thing is there are ready to use solutions out there which do exactly what you are requesting.
My approach was a different one. I wanted to be able to mount the camera somewhere, connect sheevaplug, then go somewhere and remotely control the camera in every aspect. Imaging you have to shoot a marriage. You could place the camera somewhere, take a seat somewhere and see exactly the live-view image from the camera, can point somewhere on the touchscreen to focus on that point, control exposure settings and hit the button to take the shot.
That was my approach. If I would be able to achieve this just with a sheevaplug computer for 75€, that would be great. But there still is the issue with the power necessary to run the computer.
Another problem would be to gain the time needed to write the app. I am able to do that, but time is rare...
I can understand the appeal, as I said it would be awesome to have such a setup, just not for me so far. I'll try to understand how the shutter release works through the remote and report here, i think the headphone jack would be really nice considering that no amount of extra equipment would be necessary, apart from the cable.
Just a quick question, why would you require any coding on the phone, why not use a VNC-like application and install the official canon application on windows?
zeusalmighty said:
I can understand the appeal, as I said it would be awesome to have such a setup, just not for me so far. I'll try to understand how the shutter release works through the remote and report here, i think the headphone jack would be really nice considering that no amount of extra equipment would be necessary, apart from the cable.
Just a quick question, why would you require any coding on the phone, why not use a VNC-like application and install the official canon application on windows?
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have you ever tried to watch a movie through a VNC connection?
Sheevaplug is driven by a Marvell ARM CPU, no x86 which would be needed by Windows. So only possible way would be to install linux with virtualization, setup windows XP in a container, install EOS software and a VNC server, then use a crappy VNC client on Android to control my camera? Sounds like a crappy setup to me
Having a small, slick and performant native UI would be muuuuuuch better.
I personally don't think that you will succeed with this headphone jack thingie. But I wish you good luck
Hehe, thanks
Good luck with ur project.
Lookie what I just found...
Googling aroud on more general terms for this topic, i found someone pointing to libgPhoto, a multi platform camera control lib: *crap, cannot post links, wtf*
*edit* google for libGphoto, it also has a remote.
Looking a bit further, i came across this:
google for : gitorious agphoto2 commits / master
Now i haven't found any more info on the project yet, but this looks like a project that some of us here on XDA could maybe join in on.. The only problem that then remains is the usb-usb cable There's an actual start on porting an existing lib available!
Just to keep this discussion running (I am not a programmer).
Take a look at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00321.html They are making progress on a workable solution...
klaus27 said:
I see. The thing is there are ready to use solutions out there which do exactly what you are requesting.
My approach was a different one. I wanted to be able to mount the camera somewhere, connect sheevaplug, then go somewhere and remotely control the camera in every aspect. Imaging you have to shoot a marriage. You could place the camera somewhere, take a seat somewhere and see exactly the live-view image from the camera, can point somewhere on the touchscreen to focus on that point, control exposure settings and hit the button to take the shot.
That was my approach. If I would be able to achieve this just with a sheevaplug computer for 75€, that would be great. But there still is the issue with the power necessary to run the computer.
Another problem would be to gain the time needed to write the app. I am able to do that, but time is rare...
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You just want cash
I'm in for this and would pay for software like this. I even got time for programming but cant do this alone. Just got my nikon D5000
Revisit: Direct Tether for xoom?
With all of our marvelous hacking friends, I don't see why we couldn't expect direct tethering for a DSLR on Xoom or other tabs with usb capabilities.
TheZuneLune said:
With all of our marvelous hacking friends, I don't see why we couldn't expect direct tethering for a DSLR on Xoom or other tabs with usb capabilities.
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I am teaching myself how to use my DSLR, and I begin thinking... "Wow, a lot of these settings could be a lot easier and more intuitive to control... why isn't there a DSLR powered by Android?"
Anyway, I found this thread and I figured I'd post my Xoom hooked up to my Canon. ..Not that either recognizes the other.

[Q] Use Android Tablet as USB, touch screen, monitor

I have been searching lately and haven't found anything . Is
there a way to use a 7" Android Tablet (rooted Nook Color
running CM7 ) as a graphics tablet for pc? Such as the ones
made by Wacom where you can see what you are drawing
on the tablet and on the pc screen. I know you could
technically use a remote desktop program but that's awfully
laggy. I was hoping there may be a way to use the usb cable
to plug up the tablet to the computer and simply use it as a
editable surface to draw on .
If this is obvious, I 'm sorry. I have just been thinking about
this a lot as I currently own a Bamboo Fun tablet as well but
I' d like to see more detail on the tablet itself.
I tried iDisplay and it 's too laggy. A usb method would
be optimal and I figured since I'm rooted someone may
have figured something out ...
Also, I have USB hosting active on the tablet if thats
necessary.
I know it has come up before (about 6 months ago from my searches) and was wondering if anything has happened at all. I would prefer that I have the option of extending my screen (for entertainment) or duplicating it (for art work)
Me too
I wish I was bringing you an answers but instead, I'm asking the same question. Every few weeks I scour the web for an alternative to iDisplay, specifically something that is wired for speed. I travel over half the year and I'm in the habit of lugging a small monitor with me so I can work efficiently. I know Toshiba has a portable usb monitor...isn't there a way to make our tablet's function this way as well?
If there is anything out there to try/buy or support? I'm in. Any guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks for putting your name on the list! I have been looking everywhere for something that could work with no luck. It doesn't seem like it should be hard to tap into the screen of a tablet through usb. Especially seeing as we have the drivers and what not.
Tapping into the monitor would be nice but to take it a step further, integration would be optimal. Such as the integration of the two touchscreens in the acer notebook. Your android device could be used as a virtual navigation device, you could use it to hold windows or play media, or you could even use it in art related programs as a drawing tablet.
It seems like there should be a bigger demand for this. I'm surprised there isn't
I've been interested in developing stuff like this for a while now, but unfortunately, I just haven't found the time to devote to such Android development.
For this to work, your PC would be acting as the USB host. The tablet would still just be a USB device connected to your PC like it always is (you would not be using your tablet as a hosting device for this). The PC would need the proper driver software (which, as noted, already exists). But software on the tablet would also have to advertise and implement additional usb profiles/protocols in order to inform the host that it has additional USB monitor/touchscreen functionality. This is the part that to my knowledge, does not yet exist. (if it does, let me know, ya'll may have done more research on this than I have)
In other words, yeah, there are drivers for a PC that know how to talk to a usb monitor/touchscreen. But on the other end there needs to be software that knows how to act as a usb monitor/touchscreen and fulfill the other half of that conversation. When you buy a usb monitor/touchscreen from Wacom or Toshiba, they're providing a device which already knows how to act and talk as a usb monitor/touchscreen. But that software is running on their device, so unless they've made some libraries available somewhere or there are some standard libraries available somewhere for this, it isn't as easy as one might think.
This might make more sense if you consider a simpler device like a usb keyboard. Your PC knows how to receive keystrokes from a usb keyboard because it has the appropriate driver software. However, if you wanted your tablet to act as a usb keyboard, you would need software on the tablet that knows how to send keystrokes over USB using the standard usb protocols/profiles.
Hope that makes sense.
~Troop
WM8505 Generic Chinese Android Tablet
CPU VIA WM8505 400MHZ ARM926EJ-S
Memory DDR2 128MB
HDD 2GB
Screen Size 7 inch TFT High Clear DigitalScreen
Resolution 800*480; 262,114 colors
It's running a modded Android 1.6. I'm just wonderign if anyone knows if it's possible to use this as a USB monitor. Or even remove the screen to mod it to be used as a USB monitor. I don't care if it's touchscreen or not.

[Q] Hooking up a USB keyboard to a Nook Tablet

It is my understanding that android natively supports usb. My question is, if I get a micro usb to usb adapter, and then plug in a usb keyboard, I would be able to use the keyboard to type documents. Any thoughts?
(I have a rooted nook, but I got the update before I could block them, will revert back soon)
currently no. The android or in this case nook skinned android kernel has to support usb host and usb keyboard inputs which it doesn't. But it probably will in the future when the devs release android 4.0, because ICS needs a different kernel then the current nook tablet kernel. But anyway what keyboard do you have, because you can only connect bluetooth keyboards and also only if the developers can enable bluetooth on the nook.
It also depends on the hardware support. I don't know if the TI chip has a host-only port, or if it supports OTG (On-The-Go) dual mode operation. It probably does, but I've not seen anybody verify that.
it doesn't support USB keyboards. I have a female USB to micro USB for my galaxy S2. I tried to get a USB sick and 2.4GHz mouse and keyboard on the nook but nothing worked, and yes it both works on my galaxy with the stock ROM
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The NT can support usb gadgets and usb hubs but it need to be enabled in the rom and the must have the module, the NC has this feature and i hope our great devs can implement this on the NT.
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im looking to use a usb 3g modem myself with my tablet ,
ive read a bit on the latest engadget article about the other older e paper nook that was done with a usb keyboard i even went as far as to contact the guy who did it and he told me what to look for , hardware wise to see if the NT could do it ,
yet without kernel support or the module being compiled into the kernel we have already on the tablet , theres not much hope , but i believe it can and will be done , if not im gonna have to get an ipad with a 3g data card in it cause i have to have data access wifi hotspots just not cutting it..

[Q] A/V output.

Hello everybody,
I know that the scene is working really hard making and porting ROMS for the NT, now that CM7 (ALPHA) is out... I'm curious if is a CHANCE or light in the future to use a micro USB/HDMI output to be able to connect the tablet to a HD TV using MHL.
PS: Is the CM7 KERNEL capable of mounting or recognize keyboards, gamepads etc etc with micro USB port.
apavoratiago said:
Hello everybody,
I know that the scene is working really hard making and porting ROMS for the NT, now that CM7 (ALPHA) is out... I'm curious if is a CHANCE or light in the future to use a micro USB/HDMI output to be able to connect the tablet to a HD TV using MHL.
PS: Is the CM7 KERNEL capable of mounting or recognize keyboards, gamepads etc etc with micro USB port.
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I'm pretty sure that video output would require some hardware support, soas far as I know that won't be possible.
I don't know about using the USB for external devices, but if they ever figure out the "magic number" it should be possible via Bluetooth.
apavoratiago said:
Hello everybody,
I know that the scene is working really hard making and porting ROMS for the NT, now that CM7 (ALPHA) is out... I'm curious if is a CHANCE or light in the future to use a micro USB/HDMI output to be able to connect the tablet to a HD TV using MHL.
PS: Is the CM7 KERNEL capable of mounting or recognize keyboards, gamepads etc etc with micro USB port.
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MHL is pretty cool .But AFAIK Nook does not have a HDMI out function. B&N would've advertised the **** out of this feature , coz it would have been a great advertising feature .IIRC most 7" tabs lack video output .
USB OTG has not been described as a feature and seems very unlikely .
If the bluetooth module (present but disabled) is unlocked and drivers installed , then BT keyboards, gamepads possible in the distant future .
Hav fun
Gwindli said:
I'm pretty sure that video output would require some hardware support, soas far as I know that won't be possible.
I don't know about using the USB for external devices, but if they ever figure out the "magic number" it should be possible via Bluetooth.
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It is possible to pipe the display signal with software plugin and rebuild in PC via normal USB connector. It works in PSP.
Can someone send me the internal zip for cm7 please
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scotthall1515 said:
Can someone send me the internal zip for cm7 please
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This would be awesome.

[Q] 3g on nook tablet

Hello,
Here comes a noob question I guess. Is it possible by moding the nook tablet say with CW7 to use the usb stick in order to attach a usb stick that will give 3g internet? Similarly to what you do with a laptop when you need 3g capabilities.
I'd imagine one would rather use a portable hotspot isn't that pretty much the standard now-a-days?
Well, since I am will be using it in situations that the less I carry the better (i.e., borring army service) I would rather use the stick. Still I didn't know about the hotspot. Good to know they exist.
How would you connect the stick?
if you are carrying around a rooted android based smartphone you can always tether your nook to that for 3g
OMAP4430 CPU, whick Nook Tablet has, supports USB OTG, so could act as the host for 3g stick. However, there're many obstacles on that way:
1. There may be few USB ports in OMAP, not all having OTG capability, and it's unclear which is connected externally on NT.
2. I personally yet have to see a microUSB to USB female cable, if someone has a link, I'd appreciate it.
3. You most likely would need to recompile kernel to enable OTG support as well as drivers for 3g modems.
4. Would need 3g connection app on your Nook (suppose the easiest, as there should be few for Android).
So, it may be too complicated if you just look towards using it at once, but for should would be a fun hacking project ;-)
Thanks guys for the suggestions. I guess it did not occur to me the whole tethering deal (probably because nook is the my first android powered device). I guess I will go with that option once I get a new android phone.
I heard Nexus 7 had chance to connect 3G OTG, will the nook tablet have any chance?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798631

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