Hey guys so now there is a great price for this phone in one shop in my country and it's like ~60% cheaper than Galaxy S2, while specifications (RAM, CPU) ain't worse than GS2.
So is it worth buying this phone? I need honest answers, and I really didn't plan to buy a smartphone but this price is sooooo good that I imagine I won't find a smartphone with such specifications in months or years..
So what do you say? I heard big problem is dust under then screen, but is it solvable with phone case?
I would say no one else's opinions matter except yours. People come on here all day long and ***** and moan that they should've went with another phone after buying the EVO 3D, and others come on saying it's the best choice they made. I would say, go try both of them out at the store, make YOUR decision based on that.
Kblavkalash said:
Hey guys so now there is a great price for this phone in one shop in my country and it's like ~70% cheaper than Galaxy S2, while specifications (RAM, CPU) ain't worse than GS2.
So is it worth buying this phone? I need honest answers, and I really didn't plan to buy a smartphone but this price is sooooo good that I imagine I won't find a smartphone with such specifications in months or years..
So what do you say? I heard big problem is dust under then screen, but is it solvable with phone case?
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absolutely. it is a great devise and has TONS of development support. especially if it is a great price. even though it is now about 6 months old it still holds its own against the new crop coming out. the 3d is my first android phone coming from many years on blackberry and haven't looked back. rooting it allows you to really got the best performance/battery life.
ultimately, it comes down to personal choice. you are going to have people that love and hate it. just my 2 cents...
Well I don't expect it to be like TOP phone in the market, especially because the price is really acceptable. But why exactly people complain about this phone? Is it something wrong with it I don't know?
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Well I don't expect it to be like TOP phone in the market, especially because the price is really acceptable. But why exactly people complain about this phone? Is it something wrong with it I don't know?
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If you've never owned a smartphone, you won't understand that no one is every truly happy with their phone. There's always something small they want different (which is why rooting and ROM flashing occurs).
eXplicit815, oh then it won't be a problem I guess because I never owned one. I was planning to buy a GS2 this summer, but price was extreme and only now I noticed this one, which does not look really worse than GS2.
So again, how about that dust under the screen? It is possible to avoid that by using a case?
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eXplicit815, oh then it won't be a problem I guess because I never owned one. I was planning to buy a GS2 this summer, but price was extreme and only now I noticed this one, which does not look really worse than GS2.
So again, how about that dust under the screen? It is possible to avoid that by using a case?
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I don't know. I've never had the problem with dust under my screen. I don't use a case either. But I know that if my phone gets dust under the screen, Sprint will either fix or replace my phone for free, no questions asked. I have the insurance plan.
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eXplicit815, oh then it won't be a problem I guess because I never owned one. I was planning to buy a GS2 this summer, but price was extreme and only now I noticed this one, which does not look really worse than GS2.
So again, how about that dust under the screen? It is possible to avoid that by using a case?
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I haven't really heard of this - maybe one posting that I saw way back. Not really an issue. A case can help, but most don't cover the screen anyways.
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I haven't really heard of this - maybe one posting that I saw way back. Not really an issue. A case can help, but most don't cover the screen anyways.
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There were issues with this on the HERO and the EVO 4G, but not a lot, if any, have been reported for the EVO 3D. They seem to have fixed the problem. I wouldn't worry about it, because HTC should stand behind it and warranty it directly for you if it does happen.
It's better then gs2.....in every way except speaker and camera....everything else its better and the 3d is amazing...the EVO 3d is super underrated.....
Prolly going to buy it tomorrow, hope price will still be low tomorrow
And what about the screen? This LCD screen is not much worse than SuperAmoled+?
I change oil for a living, and my phone takes a beating,ive never had dust get under my screen, the EVO 3d is an amazing device, you will be happy with it,
Shot from my sharp shooter in 3d
Just watched some comparison videos with GS2 and noticed browser is quite laggy on Evo 3d if the site has a lot of stuff, while GS2 is always perfect. For example on 12:50 -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY7nHi2Lcbg
Wondering is this browser performance going to be improved in the future by updates or is it hardware limiting for Evo 3d? Because overall Evo got similar amount of RAM, CPU and GPU as GS2.
I think it's because Galaxy S2 browser has full hardware acceleration, unlike the Evo 3D one.
It should be closer to GS2 performance once ICS update is out, since it'll add hardware acceleration to the UI and browser.
I even think that some custom ROMs already have hardware acceleration. Correct me if I'm wrong
with all of the development going on (and more to come as it gets ICS) the evo 3D is the best phone out there in my opinion.
make sure you don't get one with hboot 1.5 though... it will make flashing ROMs a ***** for you.
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I think it's because Galaxy S2 browser has full hardware acceleration, unlike the Evo 3D one.
It should be closer to GS2 performance once ICS update is out, since it'll add hardware acceleration to the UI and browser.
I even think that some custom ROMs already have hardware acceleration. Correct me if I'm wrong
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interesting about the huge effects of HW acceleration... i owned my evo 3D at the same time i had the GS2... signal strength was better on the EVO, clarity in phone calls was better, and the browsers both loaded idenctical web pages in eactly the same amount of time.
HW acceleration is overrated and should never be a selling point of a phone.
I bought my phone for the processor, resolution, and ram. I purchased it on launch day because it was king of the dual core qHD pack at the time. I think its a phenomenal phone. It was its flaws, i for one think the radio is a bit weak, and i never use the 3d, but that said, if you've never owned a smart phone and your getting a good price, go pick it up, you will be absolutely amazed with a phone like this. I call it my pocket linux because its my pocket computer
So i say get it!!
Before i replaced it, i shattered my screen, destroyed t, but aside from being hard to read the screen well because of all the cracks, i used the phone just fine for months that way. Its a very sturdy device. And as fas as the sg2 goes, there very similar phones spec wise, so go for price, the evo 3d is a very powerful phone, and i wouldnt dream of trading it for a sg2.
Hope to see ya around here flashin with all of us
I had the Evo 4g and then upgraded to the Evo 3d. My advice would be to get a device that's 4g LTE compatible if you're looking to get one soon. I would say wait and get the Galaxy Nexus when it comes out if you can wait a month or whatever it is. Unfortunately, I'm not in an area that even gets WiMax, Phoenix is on the bottom of the list it seems. But if it were me, I'd get an LTE phone if you plan to keep it for the next couple years, especially if you're in an area that has 4g now. Sprint will be moving to LTE, which means they'll probably limit or stop the WiMax 4g buildout across the states. So unless you're in an area that has WiMax now, you'll probably never get to use the 4g feature unless you travel to some place that has it.
Carrier IQ was a major turn off for me once I heard about what it collects and that the Evo's have it. I'm not even sure with the latest OTA that they released if they got rid of it yet.
I did the Hboot 1.5 root method today and loaded SenselessROM 2.9.5. This is the best thing I've done to this phone and would highly recommend it! Especially with the hacked Sprint Hotspot feature and removal of Carrier IQ. I'm now glad I own a Evo 3d and think this rooting/rom will hold me over until the quad-core Tegra 3 phones hit the market later this year. Then I'll upgrade to a quad-core with LTE technology, since that's the direction Sprint will be going and all other carriers are.
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So how do I check that my phone won't have hboot 1.5? Or is it impossible to check in the phone shop?
I like this phone. I got it back in July had it rooted as soon as it was available and have been ROM hopping ever since. I just bought one for my wife. She thinks it's the best phone yet and she has gone through a lot of different models. An unrooted phone is very quick and responsive. Battery life is ok stock can't wait to see how it is with the new update.
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So how do I check that my phone won't have hboot 1.5? Or is it impossible to check in the phone shop?
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1.5 isn't a ***** at all. You have a whopping one more step you have to do than someone who has 1.40 or lower.
Rom process for 1.40
reboot to recovery
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flash rom
Rom process for 1.50
Flash kernel through flash image gui
Reboot to recovery
wipe
flash rom
The EVO 3D is still a beast, and if you say the stock browser is slow here's some good news man. You dont have to use the stock browser, there's around 8 browsers out there that all have different pro's and cons. My first EVO 3D could be overclocked to 2.0 GHZ. Technically I had a phone running at 4.0 ghz in my pocket and damn near stable. 1gig of ram is awesome. The screen is awesome. I've got a minute amount of dust under my screen but you can only see it when the screen is off. I say go for it.
Edit: If they'll let you see the phone, take the battery out and put it back in. Hold down the power button and the volume down button at the same time until the screen kicks back on. You should be at a white screen. The text at the top should say Hboot 1.xx.xxxx on the second or third line. Pull the battery out again and you're good to go but tbh it really doesn't matter which one you get. There's ONE limitation to 1.50. You cant change your splash screen, a screen you might or might not see often.
Edit: Actually, where are you from? You might not even have to deal with 1.50 because if you're not in the united states you'll have the GSM version which can be downgraded. It's lengthy but there's a fool proof step by step walkthrough to do it.
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About to purchase this phone. How do you guys like it? Is it a good quality device? About to get for one of my family members? Also is the bootloader unlocked? Lol thanks
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Bootloader is not unlocked. Those phones are not coming out till about Septemberish.
I love my Thunderbolt. No complaints.
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I've had about 12 phones in the last 2-3 years, and the Thunderbolt has been the best phone I've ever owned, development is nuts, not a single problem with it, great performance stock even better rooted/rom'd
I am a recent convert to the Thunderbolt, with a whopping three weeks of ownership.
I originally wanted to support the Sensation on TMobile. But, for various reasons, not the least being the AT&T merger which I suspect will happen (this reducing the quality of TMobile's service, IMHO) and price, I came over to the Thunderbolt and verizon.
Previously I had the Samsung Captivate on AT&T and Evo on Sprint.
It was the commitment and speed of the independent developer community that won me over. The hardware is pretty decent. LTE speeds are extremely impressive when in optimal coverage. Battery is getting better after tweaking the ROM, startup applications and services and usage patterns.
I am definitely happy with it at this time, and upcoming Gingerbread will be very interesting.
Of course, it seems like the Thunderbolt is already being treated as "dated" and something newer and "better" is always around the corner. I would guess that we'll see the $49 price point for new contract in the not too distant future.
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Bootloader is not unlocked. Those phones are not coming out till about Septemberish.
I love my Thunderbolt. No complaints.
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It is unlocked...assuming one has the common sense and patience needed to unlock it through the tutorial stickied in the developer's forum (or one can ask detailed questions that don't involve people having to play 20 questions to help the said person). However, it is not unlocked out of the box or through official channels.
My experience only.
I came over because of an accidental drowning of my Incredible. Honestly, I didn't stay with the Inc2 because I knew we had 4g here and I wanted the speed. I also like HTC phones. I also thought the Bolt would be better.Truth is though, after flashing all the ROMS, I still miss my incredible.
The bolt is a good phone. However, I use my phone for business and reliability is key for me. This phone has been nowhere as reliable as my inc. Random reboots before root and the battery issues since rooting. If it weren't for the Development Community for the Bolt, I would have traded back in for something else. I realize there are plenty of things I could do different to get more battery, but I like 4g, sense 3 elements and GB. I'm stuck with it until Feb. 1, so I will make do until then.
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Ok so it is unlocked or you can unlock it. Is htc sending out an ota update to unlock the bootloader? I think they are doing it for the sensation sometime mid august. But if you can follow a tutorial and do it yourself. Thats not so bad i guess. Sounds like its a great phone according to all you guys. Was looking at the droid 3 just because it has dual core. But the over all screen and build quality of thunderbolt is so much better im sure. Plus its android
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Ok so it is unlocked or you can unlock it. Is htc sending out an ota update to unlock the bootloader? I think they are doing it for the sensation sometime mid august. But if you can follow a tutorial and do it yourself. Thats not so bad i guess. Sounds like its a great phone according to all you guys. Was looking at the droid 3 just because it has dual core. But the over all screen and build quality of thunderbolt is so much better im sure. Plus its android
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The bootloader does NOT ship unlocked. If you want to root your bolt, the goto the Devs section and follow jcase's tutorial. It's the first sticky.
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The bootloader does NOT ship unlocked. If you want to root your bolt, the goto the Devs section and follow jcase's tutorial. It's the first sticky.
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That wasn't what the ??? was about. I believe it was about saying "Plus its android"
since both are android phones, heh.
I've been very happy with the Thunderbolt. The first few days on Android with the phone stock I was extremely disappointed with the battery life. So I went to Verizon and ordered the extended battery. I got home from the Verizon store and started playing with my settings. The next day I thought something was wrong with my battery meter because it was lasting so long but nope, battery life really had improved that much.
One of the biggest things I see among people new to the Thunderbolt is the same problem that I had. I was running 4G enabled and there is no 4G in my area yet. It was eating battery searching for a signal that didn't exist. I typed a few numbers into the dialer and it toggled 4G off, that alone doubled battery life.
The developer support is amazing, there is so much going on right now and the full capabilities of this phone have not even been let off the leash. I was new to Android and I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone before the sim card arrived that Verizon had to mail. It was completely painless.
Someone more familiar with Verizon will have to let you know about what competition is coming in the next six months and if you should wait for it. With what's available right now, I'd definitely choose the Thunderbolt again.
The Tbolt has its quirks, just like any other phone. The battery life isn't the best, but I think the whole issue has been overhyped. You can expect 8-10 hours with the stock rom & battery with 4G always on and typical usage. You can double that time with a custom rom & kernel. You get even more time with the extended battery. I have really enjoyed my Tbolt and I wouldn't trade it for anything except maybe the SGS2 (only if it gets LTE)
Yeah the guy at the verizon store said my family member should get an iphone4 cause the battery life sucks on tbolt. But whatever so what you buy an extended battery. No biggy. Guy at verizon an apple fan. Lol. Trying to make my family members one of the sheep. F_ck apple!!!!!!
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After being a long time BlackBerry owner, for the better part of a decade. I switched to the Motorola Pro, to have Android and a physical keyboard, and then a month later while adding a line for my wife, I saw the thunderbolt. Having already used my upgrade, I purchased it at full retail price.
Even with paying a little shy of $600 for this phone, I don't regret it one bit. The only complaint I had was the battery life. After rooting, flashing decent ROMS/kernels, and choosing the right settings, battery life has improved signifigantly. And 4G LTE is the best hands down in my opinion. Plus its nice to be able to talk on the phone and surf the web at the same time, which iPhone can't do on Verizon's 3G.
I'd just get the tbolt if I were you. If you don't like it, you have 30 days to exchange it for a different phone.
**Sent from my Ziggy powered Thunderbolt, INFECTED by Synergy, the only Virus that doesn't need a cure!**
Thanks for all the help
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This thread strikes me as being similar to walking into the Corvette museum and asking the guys bumming around in there if the like their cars. I've got 3 gripes. First, I have yet to run a ROM on this thing that didn't have some annoying quirk I just had to live with, the LTE coverage and technology still seems to have some kinks that need ironing out, and for whatever reason my digitizer has come loose on the bottom left side and it clicks when I tap the screen sometimes. I'm thinking super glue if it keeps annoying me. The Samsung Charge is the only other one I'd consider, buy no where near the custom development for it.
I just got a Thrill 4G and Im thinking about trading it in for an Atrix. The phone is great but the battery life sucks, and I cannot see the 3D screen with sun glasses on. I live in AZ so they are on every time I go outside so that is an important deciding factor for me.
The Atrix is $49 today so Im thinking about getting one. I'd love to hold out for the SGS2, but who knows when it will be out and it will prob be $199.
So, would you buy an Atrix again if you had to do it over again?
If I wouldn't of had to sell my first ATRIX I wouldn't have. My fave phone!
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No-brainer imo --- the atrix is FAR superior; I'll admit that with stock gingerbread the phone is kinda meh....still an awesome phone but nothing mindblowing. I assume since you're here you'll be unlocking and flashing it...which makes the phone AMAZING. The 3-D stuff just seems so gimmicky to me and won't be perfected/well-implemented for a good amount of time to come.
As far as the SGS2, on paper it looks like an amazing phone but I'll have to wait to see - I had the captivate and was so disappointed with it (anyone that had that phone from the beginning knows how horrendous Samsung's support was). I hope that Samsung has learned a lot since the beginning of the GS line because a phone with such amazing hardware shouldn't have so many problems.
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No-brainer imo --- the atrix is FAR superior; I'll admit that with stock gingerbread the phone is kinda meh....still an awesome phone but nothing mindblowing. I assume since you're here you'll be unlocking and flashing it...which makes the phone AMAZING. The 3-D stuff just seems so gimmicky to me and won't be perfected/well-implemented for a good amount of time to come.
As far as the SGS2, on paper it looks like an amazing phone but I'll have to wait to see - I had the captivate and was so disappointed with it (anyone that had that phone from the beginning knows how horrendous Samsung's support was). I hope that Samsung has learned a lot since the beginning of the GS line because a phone with such amazing hardware shouldn't have so many problems.
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I actually know exactly what you mean because I bought my Captivate a couple days after it was released. I still have it, dont use it, but I was really happy with it after flashing ROMS on it. The development forum on that phone is fantastic.
Yes, I would never have a stock phone. Did they ever get the bootloader unlocked on this phone? I know that was the major reason that people hesitated to get it.
i love my atrix. nothing out there is better to me. im running CM7 beta on it right now. so fast.
With CM7 , everything is happy
Love it, fast, nice camera, nice speaker, good gaming performance with THD games, great community.
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I actually know exactly what you mean because I bought my Captivate a couple days after it was released. I still have it, dont use it, but I was really happy with it after flashing ROMS on it. The development forum on that phone is fantastic.
Yes, I would never have a stock phone. Did they ever get the bootloader unlocked on this phone? I know that was the major reason that people hesitated to get it.
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There's an automatic bootload unlocker in this very forum I won't bash you because I missed it myself, hahaha. It worked like a charm for me though.
Here is the link::
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
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There's an automatic bootload unlocker in this very forum I won't bash you because I missed it myself, hahaha. It worked like a charm for me though.
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I didn't miss it because I wasn't looking for it. I don't have an Atrix and was asking a question.
Everything I've read says that the Atrix also has poor battery life. I saw a thread on a battery calibration and mod that is supposed to help. I dont want to trade ina phone with bad battery life for another phone with bad battery life.
Both have a dual core CPU but the Atrix has 1GB of RAM which is nice IMO. I cant see the Thrill 3D screen with sunglasses on which sucks to me. The 3D is very gimmicky and hurts my eyes, lol. And there is only one ROM and the dev's seems to be bailing on this phone so I don't see a very good future in the Thrill dev threads.
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I didn't miss it because I wasn't looking for it. I don't have an Atrix and was asking a question.
Everything I've read says that the Atrix also has poor battery life. I saw a thread on a battery calibration and mod that is supposed to help. I dont want to trade ina phone with bad battery life for another phone with bad battery life.
Both have a dual core CPU but the Atrix has 1GB of RAM which is nice IMO. I cant see the Thrill 3D screen with sunglasses on which sucks to me. The 3D is very gimmicky and hurts my eyes, lol. And there is only one ROM and the dev's seems to be bailing on this phone so I don't see a very good future in the Thrill dev threads.
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Bad battery life reports are the vocal minority. Most of us here consider the battery to be one of the Atrix's strong points. I can get 2 1/2 days with light usage on mine with CM7 installed on it. Thats with wifi set to never sleep, and with GPS and 3G/HSPA enabled.
I love the Atrix. Literally the only problem I have with it is the pentile display, and even then its a very minor issue.
It has a 1930mAh and all the review sites i've read say the battery life is very good. Flashing a custom rom will make it even better! People have been getting like 16-24 hrs with Wifi and everything on, constantly browsing the internet and playing games (read it on youtube)
This is my first Android phone. Came from 4 years with the iPhone. Ill tell you this...not looking back. This phone was great stock. Now running cm7, this thing is fuggin amazing... battery and performance are nothing short of great.
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I just got a Thrill 4G and Im thinking about trading it in for an Atrix. The phone is great but the battery life sucks, and I cannot see the 3D screen with sun glasses on. I live in AZ so they are on every time I go outside so that is an important deciding factor for me.
The Atrix is $49 today so Im thinking about getting one. I'd love to hold out for the SGS2, but who knows when it will be out and it will prob be $199.
So, would you buy an Atrix again if you had to do it over again?
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The Atrix is an incredibly solid device. Gotta give AT&T credit for getting a top-notch device out of Motorola.
well it sounds like you guys are quite happy with it. If the battery life is that great then it's a no-brainer for $49.99. I do believe hat Im gonna return my thrill today. It a cool phone, but im a power user and ROM flashing addict so it seems i'll fit right in.
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well it sounds like you guys are quite happy with it. If the battery life is that great then it's a no-brainer for $49.99. I do believe hat Im gonna return my thrill today. It a cool phone, but im a power user and ROM flashing addict so it seems i'll fit right in.
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Good choice. The only HTC that is a solid Atrix competitor on AT&T (candybar Android w/o keyboard) is the Inspire4G, but honestly, after several HTC devices and several Moto devices, HTC may come up with cool designs and features, but Moto is great at implementing reliable, high-performing designs. I've never gotten the "oh, that is cheap" feeling with a Moto phone, while Samsung and HTC . . . meh!
Typically find out people who are complaining about battery life have heavy usage that would have even worse battery life on other phones. You had a captivate like I did, so I can tell you this phones battery kicks the **** out of the captivates....and will be even more amazing should you decide to UV it.
If you want to see a GOD AWFUL battery, **** around with an HTC inspire for about 6 hours lol.
Anyway, I think you should at least give the Atrix a try and worst case scenario you don't like it you bring it back within the 30 day window (assuming you will have one).
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I guess I'm the lone dissenter here. I'm not a fan of the Atrix. Maybe I got a lemon but it seems like there are a lot of problems.
The build quality is suspect. Dust and even a very small piece of cat hair has gotten under the screen. The back plate/battery cover feels cheap and creaks when I hold it. The GPS is rarely able to get a lock on my position, rendering it useless. Also, bluetooth connection is unreliable. I've tried 2 vehicle systems and 3 headsets. They are all able to pair fine, but lose connection in the middle of phone calls.
And if you've done research on the Atrix I'm sure you've read all about Motoblur and how ugly it makes the UI. It's all true. I'm on gingerbread and I have to say its hideous. The stock in-call screen, dialer and photo gallery all look like something designed by an elementary student.
Can you flash it and fix the ugliness of the UI? I'm not a techy but from what I've read the answer seems to be mixed. It would appear yes you can just as long as the OTA update of gingerbread has not been installed on the phone. If it has, you're either screwed or prepare to spend the next 3 years of your life reading up on how to hack the device.
On the positive side, believe everything you've seen about the Atrix's speed. By far the fastest phone I've ever used. The screen is nice and bright as well.
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Can you flash it and fix the ugliness of the UI? I'm not a techy but from what I've read the answer seems to be mixed. It would appear yes you can just as long as the OTA update of gingerbread has not been installed on the phone. If it has, you're either screwed or prepare to spend the next 3 years of your life reading up on how to hack the device.
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It sounds like you might have got a lemon. But, I had the ota update and flashed it the very same day with no problems at all so it honestly isn't that difficult.
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I guess I'm the lone dissenter here. I'm not a fan of the Atrix. Maybe I got a lemon but it seems like there are a lot of problems.
The build quality is suspect. Dust and even a very small piece of cat hair has gotten under the screen. The back plate/battery cover feels cheap and creaks when I hold it. The GPS is rarely able to get a lock on my position, rendering it useless. Also, bluetooth connection is unreliable. I've tried 2 vehicle systems and 3 headsets. They are all able to pair fine, but lose connection in the middle of phone calls.
And if you've done research on the Atrix I'm sure you've read all about Motoblur and how ugly it makes the UI. It's all true. I'm on gingerbread and I have to say its hideous. The stock in-call screen, dialer and photo gallery all look like something designed by an elementary student.
Can you flash it and fix the ugliness of the UI? I'm not a techy but from what I've read the answer seems to be mixed. It would appear yes you can just as long as the OTA update of gingerbread has not been installed on the phone. If it has, you're either screwed or prepare to spend the next 3 years of your life reading up on how to hack the device.
On the positive side, believe everything you've seen about the Atrix's speed. By far the fastest phone I've ever used. The screen is nice and bright as well.
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There are many options to get rid of the stock gingerbread Motoblur look. The obvious choice is CM7, which will do away with Blur entirely, and make your phone quite a bit quicker. Most themes available in XDA will get rid of the Blur look, and there is a huge selection in the App and Theme section. I use the ext4 Homebase Rom with his Honeycomb theme, and it significantly speeds up my phone.
I would recommend the Atrix over other Android phones for a few reasons. The biggest reason why I like it so much is because of the form factor. I like the 4 inch screen more than 4.3 or 4.5 or 9.3. Battery life has been pretty good, at least as good as I can reasonably expect from a smartphone. The hardware specs are comparable to any other Android device, and if you're willing to root and flash custom Roms, you will notice a marked improvement over stock performance (which I think is true of any Android phone). What really makes this phone as slick as it is are its accessories. I just bought the lapdock from Vancouver Craigslist for $150 and I love it. I knew when I bought it that it was kind of gimmicky (like the 3D from your Thrill), but for what I need this tool for, it's been outstanding. Nothing beats watching Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad on my hour commute to work while simultaneously charging my phone!
I love my Atrix, and it's a shame the phone got such a bad wrap off the bat due poor implementation of Blur on 2.2, and encrypted bootloader. Now with the unlocked bootloader and better blur, in addition to more and more custom roms being built, this phone is coming closer to its potential. I wish it had a metal back plate, but I understand the potential of worse reception and getting hotter than the plastic cover. All in all, the only phone I would remotely consider exchanging my Atrix for would be the Sensation, and even then I think I'd really have to be sold on the idea. I hope this helps with your decision.
Cm7 is a must on the atrix. I've tried other roms but none ever worked quite right. Annoying fc & other errors - but thanks to those devs for putting in the time & effort. Blur is complete crap: I couldn't even listen to my mp3s without the music stuttering bcuz the phone was busy searching for "suggestions" of similar songs I may like. Damn you, for the unwanted marketing on my device, at&t & Motorola. For a while, I very much regretted trading in my iPhone. But now all is well. Thank you cm7 devs!
So I just got my Atrix
It has 1.2.6 as a build on it, and from reading I'm not finding too much information on that build. I don't think that I want to do the OTA to 4.1.57 though because I keep reading about bricks. I'm going to put a ROM on it, more than likely CM7 so Im not sure what good it would do to update OTA. I'll have to root it though so I guess I can get on that first but all of the root guides are for 1.8.x and up.
Hey guys, I know people usually hate these kinds of threads, but I've been a NS4G user for a while, and an Evo 4g user before that. My family is joining my Sprint plan and I'm thinking of giving my NS4G to the sister and getting a new phone. I like the idea of getting the 3d, but i am worried that it might be getting close to being outdated seeing as how it was released in June. That is pushing me towards the E4GT, but I would much rather have HTC's build quality and Sense over Touchwiz any day. So what do you guys think? Is it too late to get an Evo 3d on contract? Would you guys buy an Evo 3d again today if given the opportunity?
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Hey guys, I know people usually hate these kinds of threads, but I've been a NS4G user for a while, and an Evo 4g user before that. My family is joining my Sprint plan and I'm thinking of giving my NS4G to the sister and getting a new phone. I like the idea of getting the 3d, but i am worried that it might be getting close to being outdated seeing as how it was released in June. That is pushing me towards the E4GT, but I would much rather have HTC's build quality and Sense over Touchwiz any day. So what do you guys think? Is it too late to get an Evo 3d on contract? Would you guys buy an Evo 3d again today if given the opportunity?
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I love my 3D but it has been a very buggy phone. This is my 3rd E3D and if they would let me switch phones I would. I need to take this one back aswell it keeps freezing even with stock. I have to keep hitting my power button to turn the screen off then it works again some times for 5mins and some times 2weeks.
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I love my evo 3d. Never had a problem and rooted it the very first day I got it. It's the best phone i've owned to date. Future phones will probably improve battery life, screen, and be lte compatible. I don't think you need more than dual cores, I think this phone will be competitive for quite a while. This just my personal opinion of course....
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I love my 3D but it has been a very buggy phone. This is my 3rd E3D and if they would let me switch phones I would. I need to take this one back aswell it keeps freezing even with stock. I have to keep hitting my power button to turn the screen off then it works again some times for 5mins and some times 2weeks.
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Thanks for your input. What other bugs did you experience other than the power button bug?
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I love my evo 3d. Never had a problem and rooted it the very first day I got it. It's the best phone i've owned to date. Future phones will probably improve battery life, screen, and be lte compatible. I don't think you need more than dual cores, I think this phone will be competitive for quite a while. This just my personal opinion of course....
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Thanks for your reassurance! I've always been an HTC guy (as you can tell from my phone history in my sig), and I wanna get back to them. I just have heard many bad things about the phone... i'll probably be going to sprint today to make my final decision, but i still would love more peoples input!
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Thanks for your reassurance! I've always been an HTC guy (as you can tell from my phone history in my sig), and I wanna get back to them. I just have heard many bad things about the phone... i'll probably be going to sprint today to make my final decision, but i still would love more peoples input!
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Haven't really had any issues with my 3D besides a really small dead pixel. You really shouldn't go off of what people tell you though because everyone has their own preferences. Take a look through the Dev. forum and check out the roms that the 3D has right now. It is a little behind on the dev side given we don't have CM yet but it all depends on what types of roms you like to run or if you are planning to root.
I was tempted to jump to the ET4G like many others but after seeing some make the jump then coming back to the 3D I decided against it. Just remember Samsung has a history of delaying software updates.
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I love my evo 3d. Never had a problem and rooted it the very first day I got it. It's the best phone i've owned to date. Future phones will probably improve battery life, screen, and be lte compatible. I don't think you need more than dual cores, I think this phone will be competitive for quite a while. This just my personal opinion of course....
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This has been my experience.
The only suggestion I have is what I've been telling everyone who asks. Since everyone is going to LTE, only get a LTE phone. Since Sprint's LTE has not started yet, amd will be rolled out starting late next year into 2013 and they are not dropping WiMax, I don't anticipate needing a Sprint LTE phone till Mid-late 2013. Meaning if you get a EVO 3D (the best Sprint Android phone IMO) through this summer, you will not be missing out on any speed things. Phone tech always is changing, but EVO 3D should get ICS sometime next year and be current enough for 1-1 1/2 years more.
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This has been my experience.
The only suggestion I have is what I've been telling everyone who asks. Since everyone is going to LTE, only get a LTE phone. Since Sprint's LTE has not started yet, amd will be rolled out starting late next year into 2013 and they are not dropping WiMax, I don't anticipate needing a Sprint LTE phone till Mid-late 2013. Meaning if you get a EVO 3D (the best Sprint Android phone IMO) through this summer, you will not be missing out on any speed things. Phone tech always is changing, but EVO 3D should get ICS sometime next year and be current enough for 1-1 1/2 years more.
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Thanks guys, I think i may be going to pick one up today. I just hope I can live without Super Amoled. That is my favorite thing about the Nexus S. But I'm hoping with the qHD resolution I won't miss it too much. Thanks for all of your input!
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Thanks guys, I think i may be going to pick one up today. I just hope I can live without Super Amoled. That is my favorite thing about the Nexus S. But I'm hoping with the qHD resolution I won't miss it too much. Thanks for all of your input!
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I moved from AMOLED (Legend) to SLCD Evo 3D and I don't regret. Black is not so black as it was on amoled, but all other colors are better.
The only problem I've had was a busted antenna, but swapped that phone out and it's been all good since
The EVO 3D is a superb phone. Build quality is unmatched, as you're well aware as a longtime HTC owner. The only thing i wish they'd done differently is put an AMOLED screen on it, because the screen on this phone drains the battery faster than an AMOLED screen would.
GOT IT!
I picked it up today and I have been very pleased so far. Thanks guys for all of your input. I can't wait to get this thing unlocked and rooted(preferably not through HTC's unlocker(hboot 1.50)) in the next few days to see what this baby can do!
I got mine yesterday or the day before (nightshift messes up my brain!)
Anyway, I got it as a replacement for the Epic 4G..
I worked for Sprint in the past & have had nearly every Android that is worth having..
But most recently, I've had the EVO 4G & the Epic 4G, I usually have one for a few months and then want to go back to the other. I had this lated Epic off of a Craiglist trade (traded my white EVO 4G, straight trade... my last 3-4 of them have been Craigslist).
Anyway, like I said, this was a replacement, but this EVO 3D came from Sprint.. I took my Craigslist Epic into the store the other day because I was having data & GPS issues (since the 2.3 update) like the Galaxy series is known for & wanted to have another Epic (refurb or not). This was my first time going to the Sprint store for repairs (not any store that knows I used to work for Sprint, since it's in TX & I'm from FL), and they offered me a replacement right away.. EVO 4G, EVO 3D, EVO Shift, Galaxy Nexus (had that one the day it came out so I had the slow downloads, but don't like non-expandable storage).. I was blown away the system offered me a EVO 3D, so yeah, I jumped on that.......
I love my EVO 3D. I had been whining recently about needing a dual core, even wanted to go to the next iPhone whenever it hits sprint (4G or LTE compatible), but now I'll be sticking with this phone because the dual core really is superb. I mean ya, maybe I'd like a Galaxy S II better since it has better optics for the camera, but I've already had too much fun with the 3D novelty.
Plus, it's an EVO with a camera button, I LOOOOVE that. It's also the nicest build quality of any phone I've had. Oh, and it has Gorilla Glass... I hate screen protectors.
I'm also satisfied that I don't need to use APP 2 SD for a while since it has plenty of space compared to the Epic.
Not sure about the battery life yet, but this is the one phone I'll finally buy a Seidio battery for if need be, since it's worth it.
It actually doesn't have Gorilla Glass (the corning one). It only has HTC's Gorilla glass equivalent, so god knows how good it actually is.
Wow, good to know... I swear it says Gorilla Glass somewhere official though. Of course it's been out so long I know it's already been discussed LOL
Here's the most official I can find for now, straight from Corning
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/htc
I've grown into my 3D. I received it as a replacement for my Evo 4G, which was having GPS reboot issues. At first, I didn't like it. It felt laggy, and didn't seem like much of an upgrade to the 4G. Now, when I use my wife's Evo 4G, that phone feels "held back", for lack of a better term. Although, I do not use the HTC sense launcher. It has nice eye candy, but the software isn't optimized, so it doesn't run very well. I like the sense apps, just not their launcher. I do prefer the size ratio of the 4G, compared to the 3D. And the 3D runs games like a champ, compared to the choppiness you will see on the 4G.
I'd still prefer the Epic Touch 4G, as that screen trumps the 3D's screen any day of the week.
I had been using LauncherPro, but every few hours I would get hit with the "use Sense or LauncherPro" defaults question... like ?! I already answered this question (it wasn't going back home from somewhere I hadn't set the answer to yet), so I went back to Sense, oh well. I'm happy with a folder instead of more icons I suppose.
Im just curious to see if anyone has returned their Evo yet?
I am still debating. I absolutly love this phone but the signal and data speeds are killing me. I am hoping it is a software issue and they are able to fix it with an update. There is no other phone on Sprint I would even consider.
The GSIII looks like crap and I would never go for an iphone. I wish they would just fix the 3g issues I am having. Data speeds jump all around. Sometimes I am at .11mbps then I can jump up to 2.2mbps. within 30 seconds in the exact same spot.
Yup, I gave up on mine after the reboot/3G data/WiFi hand-off issues just became too much to bear. My OG EVO now feels like a frustratingly slow dinosaur in my hands, but on the plus side its signal is reliable and it's much more stable. C'est la vie.
No, mine has been great. When I heard about the 2GB ram in the GS3 I thought about it for maybe 5 minutes. But, then I remembered how disappointed I was with the pentile screen on the nexus s and how the phone felt compared to the evo shift it replaced.
I don't want another glossy plastic phone with a pentile display.
One thing I really do miss though is the app noled which was so awesome for notifications on an amoled screen. Now we get a green blinking light that times out after 5 minutes. That's a huge step back and the only thing I am really disappointed about.
I've highly been considering switching to a OneX on ATT. My data speeds are ridiculous with the evoLTE. My 3D would hit speeds of around 800kbs down on 3G, Vs. the LTE at 200 kbs, or sometimes won't even connect.
ATT has HSPA+ in my area with speeds around 8Mbs
Hell no best phone I have ever owned! This thing kicks ass lol.
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I'm about 90% convinced to return it.
Updating Google Play apps stops if you do anything else, and Airdroid stopped transferring files once the screen shut off.
I'm tired of forums reloading, web pages reloading, everything reloading, and there being no memory left thanks to an overly bloated Sense 4. I thought reviews were accurate that Sense 4 was slimmer, but that's just the launcher. It's in more things than ever, ruining everything.
I played around with my EVO 3D last night, running ICS and Sense 3.6. It's MUCH more responsive, fluid, and doesn't have any multitasking issues. I hate that I downgraded the phone, so I'm just going to return it and enjoy the better experience, which is sadly achieved on a phone 1 year older.
Going to miss a good camera though, and will probably end up getting the S3 unless dev community magically has CM9 in 5 days.
Nope, and I'm not going to. Just had it replaced last night for a light leak issue from the Home button. This new one is flawless. It's worth waiting til fall for LTE.
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Yup, I gave up on mine after the reboot/3G data/WiFi hand-off issues just became too much to bear. My OG EVO now feels like a frustratingly slow dinosaur in my hands, but on the plus side its signal is reliable and it's much more stable. C'est la vie.
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I had the same problem exchanged my phone and it's fine.
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I thought about it but no android phone comes out perfect and i really love the hardware and design of my EVO LTE so im keeping mine.
i tired to return it once i found out that the s3 was coming to sprint, but i was over the 14 return days, i was on day 16 -_-.
all well.
the only thing that sucks with this phone is like a few people said data.. on my og evo and evo 3d i had NO problems.. i used to get 4g in my house.. 3g was hella fast but on the lte sometime when i download an app it takes mad long.. spots where i would get 4g my 3g bearly works on the lte.. other than that i love the phone.. i wish there was something to fix this.. im hoping when the next update comes it fix's this problem.. because i never had that problem with the other 2 evo's i had??
Obviously this thread has been done ad nauseum, but I was so close to returning for the GSIII that I had a return kit shipped to my house.
Reasons to keep EVO LTE:
1> screen
2> stock camera app is amazing
3> build quality/materials are amazing
4> holy damn the developer support took off on this thing
5> physical camera button is great and often rare addition these days
Reasons to get to get rid of EVO LTE:
1>Multitasking is super terrible garbage and if you don't want to root your phone and install minfreemanager or a new ROM immediately, then this phone is neutered and terrible. Would never recommend to my non-techie friends. And HTC's response of "it's a feature" (thanks ghost of steve jobs acting there) makes me want people to return the phone on principal.
2>If you are in a borderline signal place, many people are having signal problems. When I visited my folks, I noticed it. Signal worse than OG EVO. But I live in a major metropolitan area and the phone works better here than it did on my OG EVO.
3>stock rom compresses MMS and has basically ruined my MMS experience.
The GSIII wins on:
1> RAM
2> maybe future support as the phone is expected to be highly ubiquitous. But that's just a maybe and it'll more probably be a wash
3>no multitasking problems
4> stock memory partitioning
GSIII loses on:
1>hideous physical home button
2>plastic plastic plastic
3> history of terrible antennas from samsung
4> history of terrible software update from samsung
5> screen
6> no physical camera button
7>no kickstand (I use it)
So more RAM (possible future proof for one extra android upgrade??), no multitasking problem, better memory partitioning.
Keep the EVO LTE if you are going to add a big SD card (I use a 64GB and it works despite the quoted limit of 32GB) and root it.
Get rid of EVO LTE if you want to buy a stock phone and keep it that way for a while or if you are in a place that the signal isn't working for you.
Anybody wants to sell there LTE gmail me [email protected]
No way, why would I return it?? This phone is the fastest phone on the market with the most features and best screen. My speeds are good and I really have no complaints. Sucks to be in a bad area as far as reception, but im in a perfect area and wouldn't consider getting rid of this beast.
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i tired to return it once i found out that the s3 was coming to sprint, but i was over the 14 return days, i was on day 16 -_-.
all well.
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I thought Sprint has 30 days?
I was told 14 days when I got mine and I have no plans on returning it. Just gonna wait for wrinkles to get ironed out and keep on keepin' on
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Does anyone know how Best Buy's return policy works.. say I return the LTE, get the S3, and then find out that I like the LTE better? Can I just return the S3 again and buy the LTE again?
I would never return it.... Best phone I've owned by far, LTE is coming nv too, im lucky I'm on wifi most of the time. I think even if i wasn't i would deal, I'm certainly not going back to that crappy 3 d
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Does anyone know how Best Buy's return policy works.. say I return the LTE, get the S3, and then find out that I like the LTE better? Can I just return the S3 again and buy the LTE again?
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Yes which is why I love Best Buy. By the time the GS3 comes out, I will have my EVO for 3 weeks and still have the option to return it for a GS3, which I'm guessing I won't do unless the GS3 blows me away.
Hellz no I'm not returning. This device has exceeded my expectations. I admit I've been, and probably still am to some degree, a Samsung fanboy. So I really was planning on holding out for the s3. But I saw the screen on the EVO LTE and immediately could see what people meant by the drawback of a pentile display. So I said "hey, I got an upgrade available. Let me try this evo out for two weeks and if I don't like it ill return it and get the s3." I'm so glad I did cuz this device has been awesome. Data speeds haven't been an issue for me (and I'm on 3g still) and the build quality is superb. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the s3 will be awesome but I'm happy with this badboy right now and I don't think you'll notice too much difference with that extra gig of RAM--not till developers build apps to take advantage of that. By that time, knowing me, ill have a new device anyway. Dev support is awesome too here!
BTW, with regard to return policies, I have plenty of experience...lol. Best buy does give u 30 days but IF u want your upgrade back from Sprint, u must return within 14 days.
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I just read an article on goodandevo.net about how the og evo is just over 2 years old now. I'm not sure if this post belongs in the evo 4g section or the lte one, but It pertains to both.
My og evo could do anything, native hotspot, overclock, underclock, roam only, undervolt, virtually anything I asked of it, it could do. Short of printing out money for me to pay my bill, it was all I needed. And thats pretty much what this is about.
I don't know if Its the evo 4g lte itself, or just me, but I'm finding it hard to, I don't want to say like this phone, but I guess its on the line of that or give this phone a chance.
Going from a phone that has had every single thing hacked, any rom you could ever imagine, any kernel, any app, you could dream of... To a phone that still has bugs and issues to be worked out is more of a challenge than I originally even though about.
My only real concern that I had when I got this phone about a month ago was wifi hotspot. I use it as my daily internet source. With my og evo I used open garden for a while, it was the most reliable for me, then I switched to Swagged Out Stock rom and it had the native hotspot and tethering app unlocked.
But now that I'm on the lte, I'm realizing just how much more I depended on that phone. I miss the kernals, the unlimited amount of roms, the different radios I could flash, I bricked my og evo 3 times, sent it into bootloop I can't even count how many times, and even had the screen smashed twice. One of the times I ran it over with my truck after forgetting it under there using it as a flashlight.
I am excited for what the lte holds in store but Im quickly reminded of the "you don't know what you'you've got till it's gone" syndrome.
What are some of the things you guys are missing from your og evos and 3d's?
What are some of the things youre looking forward to with the evo 4g lte?
Sorry for the rant btw.
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never had an evo or a 3d but i have had phones of that era. i miss the wifi hotspot and tethering FOR FREE... but then companies decided to get greedy.
I got error 67 a few times on my old evo 4g, then I learned all about rooting, and flashing and especially things like nandroid backups, its killing me when I try to tether on this phone and one minute it will work and the next it won't
Plus my data is always disconnecting, on my og evo, that usually meant it was time to call sprint and have an extension put on my bill because i forgot to pay it.
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I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.
These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?
I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?
This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.
So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
This phone can native hotspot for free...
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I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.
These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?
I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?
This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.
So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
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I actually read that whole post. And I agree.
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This phone can native hotspot for free...
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Clockwork tether works too. And you don't have to be rooted
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ms79723 said:
I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.
These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?i
I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?
This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.
So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
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I agreeeeeeeeeee!!! The only thing wrong with this phone is the multitasking and ram issue which I think is a ram leak and will definitely be fixed over time. I play around with both my Evo's Og and the LTE and the difference is night and day. I swear I fully charged my Evo og yesterday and took it off the charger and let it sit with only wifi on and played with my LTE evo with close to 80% battery and the Og died while doing nothing. While my LTE was still going strong. Mind you I played airport city, browsed the net, pandora, poweramp, Gtalk, Facebook, streamed some pics and about 30 minutes of a movie to my Xbox 360 from the imediashare app and a phone call and my battery was good. People just nitpick for no reason. Single people do this. Because, they're never satisfied.
I really like this phone. I set roaming to automatic and it does almost as well as my OG did in Sprint only mode. I also don't have to worry about having extra batteries. Rooting was fun too, I got to learn all about the 14 cycles of unbricking.
The slide action keyboard and it's uncanny ability to preclude the addition of any spaces after punctuations and inability to retroactively capitalize, saves a lot of processor power, and letts me get familiar with the space bar. ShapeWriter keyboard which is too small in this huge resolution screen was written years ago, and needed to be replaced, only wish the functionality had been brought in.
Seriously keeping the EVO OG incase I bend this one.
OP I understand where your coming from. Kinda had a feeling like that on the first day with this phone, but then I realized how much HTC finally improved everything from OG. Granted I'm S-Off for the future but I'm still on stock with root, and its amazing that a majority of people are still very happy on it.
If your wanting every type of mod similar to the OG, time is not your friend for now. Give it 8 months to a year for stuff to start changing in that direction. Until then, enjoy what HTC envisioned, because it could be worse!
Totally agree with ms79723.
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I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.<br />
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These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?<br />
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I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?<br />
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This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.<br />
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So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
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I understand what youre saying, and I do love this phone, I'm fully just being inpatient, and I know I am. Thats life. I was spoiled with everything I could do by the end of my run with the og evo, that not being able to do as much in terms of flashing is a bumming me out. I didn't flash roms because I needed to, I did it purely for fun, I would read reviews about a new one (and they're still being updated today) and flash it for a couple of days. I would flash multiple kernals a day. And I got used to the luxury of it.
Don't get me wrong, I love this phone, the graphics, the camera, its fast, plenty of storage, and when the ball really gets rolling with this phone, and I mean everything gets working its gonna be astounding. I can't wait.
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What I really don't miss about flashing roms is having to restore all my old apps and resync all my email accts, etc. Really don't miss the random reboots from unstable roms or in the later life of the og EVO low memory from trying to run roms too powerful for it.
I really like the EVO LTE. The battery lasts 3x as long as the og EVO did. The screen is beautiful and just as impressive as the og EVO was on day 1. Overall, if the S3 wasn't released within a month of the EVO LTE it would be up there with the og EVO in terms of popularity.
If we had a good 6 months head start on the S3.... Man, I can only speculate.
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How awful was the og evo's battery right? Loving my LTE. This phone feels like a big upgrade unlike the EVO 3D.
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The new EVO LTE does everything the OG EVO does/did in my opinion and 4x the speed etc. Remember, source was just released, a lot more to come with JB source as well etc.
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I just miss the data speed of wimax because 3g in the SF bay area is anywhere from barely ok to holy crap this is slower than my 56k modem. Other than that the phone on the whole is an upgrade across the board. The 2 evos i have are being used as remotes for my living room and bedroom now.
Same here. I had the og evo since it came out and used it until the ltevo came out. The ltevo has been a huge downgrade in real world function despite the far superior hardware nominal specs.
About the only things that are better are more flash so that my apps no longer are out of room, and google wallet is kind of fun to use, and battery life is a little better.
But I had managed to get by with app2sd before and, and google wallet is merely fun to play with, not an actually important function yet. Even the larger screen isn't that bigvof a deal bc tge og evo screen is pretty big already.
Camera doesn't focus right, links to maps and youtube don't open the native app even after rooting and applying the supposed fixes, radio reception sucks, wifi constantly fails to hand off to 3g or other wifi nets when you drive away from one you were connected to, neither the stock nor any other car mode works worth a crap, of course the well known multitasking, I really can't even think of all the unneccesary problems when I try to list them like this because they are so many that I am forced to get good at dealing with them and moving on 30 times a day. It's so many little things that it adds up to a constant, somewhat crappy experience. I wish I could have two phones use the same number because I would actually use my og evo a lot of the time right now rather than fight with this thing. Heck there's another one, writing this post, for some reason it's a lot harder for me to write on this keyboard than the og evo. And why do the arrow keys appear sometimes and not others? I make mistakes a lot and re-word things a lot and I need the arrow keys for editing, but here iin the xda-premium app, no arrows. Other apps they're there. Some things are not necessarily htc's fault but they're still a downgrade from the og. Like the damned lack of menu button, forcing the on-screen button to appear in most apps that were great before, again such as xda-premium.
The phone is cool if you never owned a phone before, but a lot of user experience crossing t's and dotting i's are missing and all in all it's a downgrade from the og.
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Lol
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ms79723 said:
I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.
These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?
I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?
This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.
So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
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I agree with this completely. I made the mistake of buying the 3D assuming it would have the same dev support was going to be as legendary as the Evo 4G's (a phone which I never had the chance to own). Needless to say, it constantly made me feel like my phone wasn't good enough, even though software wise there was nothing wrong with it (hardware though, that was a different story).
Now that I have this phone, I've come to appreciate what the stock experience offers. I'm using Flex's optimized stock ROM, and I find myself keeping my current ROM and less interested in flashing things for the sake of flashing them.
I've arrived at a point with Android where I want my phone to be my phone, I don't want to keep wondering "can I push it harder". I'm going to let other people do the testing for me, and when they do, when I'm ready, I'll use the end product and I want to enjoy it.
Afterall, Google Now (whenever we get JB) needs a long time to fully understand your life before it becomes as useful as they say. Can't exactly establish that if I keep switching ROMs
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Same here. I had the og evo since it came out and used it until the ltevo came out. The ltevo has been a huge downgrade in real world function despite the far superior hardware nominal specs.
About the only things that are better are more flash so that my apps no longer are out of room, and google wallet is kind of fun to use, and battery life is a little better.
But I had managed to get by with app2sd before and, and google wallet is merely fun to play with, not an actually important function yet. Even the larger screen isn't that bigvof a deal bc tge og evo screen is pretty big already.
Camera doesn't focus right, links to maps and youtube don't open the native app even after rooting and applying the supposed fixes, radio reception sucks, wifi constantly fails to hand off to 3g or other wifi nets when you drive away from one you were connected to, neither the stock nor any other car mode works worth a crap, of course the well known multitasking, I really can't even think of all the unneccesary problems when I try to list them like this because they are so many that I am forced to get good at dealing with them and moving on 30 times a day. It's so many little things that it adds up to a constant, somewhat crappy experience. I wish I could have two phones use the same number because I would actually use my og evo a lot of the time right now rather than fight with this thing. Heck there's another one, writing this post, for some reason it's a lot harder for me to write on this keyboard than the og evo. And why do the arrow keys appear sometimes and not others? I make mistakes a lot and re-word things a lot and I need the arrow keys for editing, but here iin the xda-premium app, no arrows. Other apps they're there. Some things are not necessarily htc's fault but they're still a downgrade from the og. Like the damned lack of menu button, forcing the on-screen button to appear in most apps that were great before, again such as xda-premium.
The phone is cool if you never owned a phone before, but a lot of user experience crossing t's and dotting i's are missing and all in all it's a downgrade from the og.
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I got better reception with my og evo I think, data connection didnt drop off like it does with this phone.
Again dont get me wrong, I'm.obsessed with this phone, but I'm not a dev, so I'm waiting, hoping, and praying that itbgets the same support the og evo is STILL gettingml.
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I got better reception with my og evo I think, data connection didnt drop off like it does with this phone.
Again dont get me wrong, I'm.obsessed with this phone, but I'm not a dev, so I'm waiting, hoping, and praying that itbgets the same support the og evo is STILL gettingml.
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I'll echo this.
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