I know its a Andreno 220 but how does it fair with something found in Nexus, S2, Tegra 2?
better then Nexus S/ Galaxy S but bit lower then ATT Galaxy S2 and iphone 4S
Take a look at this review
It's a decent gpu except battery consumption and heat problem
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Take a look at this review
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Where is the link?
Sent From My HTC Amaze
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Where is the link?
Sent From My HTC Amaze
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Oh shoot. I'm really sorry. Forgot about link.
http://alturl.com/qr6jh
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I know its a Andreno 220 but how does it fair with something found in Nexus, S2, Tegra 2?
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yes every phone is geared towards something, I believe the amaze is geared towards best picture taking. SGSII seems more of a gaming device to me. although I must say I feel like the CPU on this device makes up for the galaxy tab 10.1 that I have with tegra 2. My videos are much smoother on my phone especially if I overclock, but I rarely watch videos on such a small screen I rather use my tablet. decoders are also a big part of watching movies. right now all the phones I have seen are not able to decode MKV files very well, since MKV is actually a bin that can contain many file formats such MP4 AVI, with the advantage of high quality, soft encoded subtitles and much more verstatile..I have yet to see a good player that plays MKV files smoothly on android!! GPU is more for gaming and can to a great extend be compensated by the CPU, once we get dual core support with ICS you won't have any problems playing games, not that you should have any right now!!! there's also a rom out that supports dual core cpu, you might want to check that out, if you're looking for a good gaming experience.
I could be wrong but I think the tmobile SGSII also uses andreno 220 no?
Adreno 220 outperforms Tegra 2 in Anandtech benchmarks: http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218757
hope this is not too much info: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rhQc666Sg lol
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hope this is not too much info: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rhQc666Sg lol
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Haha
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Yes I was right, the tmobile SGSII runs the same snapdragon processor as the amaze since they needed it for the 42mbps 4g speeds speeds: thus it runs the same gpu as ours...the other SGSII's from Att, verizon, and sprint run the exynos processor which has a better gpu. Right now at T-mobile this is the best you can get
exynos gpu is quadcore but wastes more battery obviously
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277987
more info, snapdragon processor runs 720 an1080p videos better than the exynos, processor according to wikipedia!!
This makes me feel a bit better. My Cousins LG 2X was getting higher score based on him then my AMAZE despite me having more RAM and faster CPU in Quadrant. Stock i score ~ 2.8K and with Custom ROM ~ 3.1K
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This makes me feel a bit better. My Cousins LG 2X was getting higher score based on him then my AMAZE despite me having more RAM and faster CPU in Quadrant. Stock i score ~ 2.8K and with Custom ROM ~ 3.1K
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Those scores mean nothing!!! ask the more experienced people!
holy crap those benchmark results on the exynos thread were ridiculous. I honesly dont care though, my sensation handled eternal legacy and dead space perfect so im not worried. i would rather have a better camera then gpu on a phone, since i game on my laptop and if i wanted mobile gaming id get the playstation vita which i probably am lol
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holy crap those benchmark results on the exynos thread were ridiculous. I honesly dont care though, my sensation handled eternal legacy and dead space perfect so im not worried. i would rather have a better camera then gpu on a phone, since i game on my laptop and if i wanted mobile gaming id get the playstation vita which i probably am lol
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exactly what I said about mobile gaming , psp gives you a much better mobile gaming experience, but having a great camera on a phone you can save money on a point and shoot for the most part, especially with our camera.
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exactly what I said about mobile gaming , psp gives you a much better mobile gaming experience, but having a great camera on a phone you can save money on a point and shoot for the most part, especially with our camera.
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agreed! the vita has crap cameras but ps3 graphics, im sold aha. i liked my sensation camera so i know i will love the Amaze camera. I was supposed to get my Amaze today but it snowed and UPS rescheduled the date
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I have yet to see a good player that plays MKV files smoothly on android!!
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mx video player has dual core support, a little off topic but it works wonders on even the larger mkv files (~10gb) and has hi10p support now..
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mx video player has dual core support, a little off topic but it works wonders on even the larger mkv files (~10gb) and has hi10p support now..
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tried it, still choppy!!! depends how the video was also encoded. I usually get very high compressed mkv's
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agreed! the vita has crap cameras but ps3 graphics, im sold aha. i liked my sensation camera so i know i will love the Amaze camera. I was supposed to get my Amaze today but it snowed and UPS rescheduled the date
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haha, if you like your sensation's camera, Amaze will blow it out of the water...it f/2.2 so takes very macro shots, 28mm which gives you a really side field compared to any phone camera you use today (basically you don't have to move back to get someone entirely in the picture) and backside illuminated for low light conditions... my gf has the sensation, I've tested them with the same conditions. There's no comparison, for the photo enthusiast this is it.
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tried it, still choppy!!! depends how the video was also encoded. I usually get very high compressed mkv's
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hummm..
are you on a stock rom?
because ive tested multiple mkv's (from 170mb to over 10gb) even those at hi10p bitrates, and they run flawlessly on mx.
our adreno 220 is beast imho, coming from the 205 i have noticed a huge difference in the capacity of gaming (sans gta3).
i just wish that the hardware recognized video formats like mkv, ogm and mt2s as native..
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haha, if you like your sensation's camera, Amaze will blow it out of the water...it f/2.2 so takes very macro shots, 28mm which gives you a really side field compared to any phone camera you use today (basically you don't have to move back to get someone entirely in the picture) and backside illuminated for low light conditions... my gf has the sensation, I've tested them with the same conditions. There's no comparison, for the photo enthusiast this is it.
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That's great news ive done some research on it when i was about the get the Radar but ended up with the Sensation. but not getting the Amaze, pretty excited since i love taking pictures and all.
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hummm..
are you on a stock rom?
because ive tested multiple mkv's (from 170mb to over 10gb) even those at hi10p bitrates, and they run flawlessly on mx.
our adreno 220 is beast imho, coming from the 205 i have noticed a huge difference in the capacity of gaming (sans gta3).
i just wish that the hardware recognized video formats like mkv, ogm and mt2s as native..
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oh i'm sorry I havn't tried in on my phone yet, maybe I should, I usually don't like watching video's on my phone, I was referring to my galaxy tab 10.1, with tegra 2, and I don't know how the glaxay tab is formatted but will not let me put more than a 4 gig file on it , I havn't been tweaking my tab as much as my phone lol
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Enjoy! This thing is looking amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1IhrSjMy0Q&feature=youtu.be
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Enjoy! This thing is looking amazing.
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thats what she...
anyway, I cant wait to get my hands on this. I wonder if sprint stores will have them at opening? I got my reserved does that guarantee I will get one?
that was a pretty good first review, he covered most of my questions.
I'll go ahead and ask, why such a dramatic difference in bench scores between the E3D and the SGS2? I know everyone says "scores don't matter", but it begs the question if they are utilizing similar hardware. Also, I understand that the current set of bench marking test probably do not account for a dual core proc.
The benchmarks also don't account for the higher resolution/pixel count on the E3d.
I think the reason he couldn't find The Green Hornet was cause I read that it came preloaded on the microsd card.... or like he said cause its a preproduction phone
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJwRH9Sc51Q
here is another new video, from radioshack
Gotta say I'm.pretty impressed..I'm even more excited..the camera and videos looked great..there is def something up with the benchmarks bc this thing flies
I heard its because quadrant is only reading one core cause they haven't updated for the new snapdragon
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Gotta say I'm.pretty impressed..I'm even more excited..the camera and videos looked great..there is def something up with the benchmarks bc this thing flies
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very low quadrant score 2193, lg optimus 3d has got 2900, SGII 3500
very low smartbench score(game score) 1688 , lg optimus 3d-2822
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very low quadrant score 2193, lg optimus 3d has got 2900, SGII 3500
very low smartbench score(game score) 1688 , lg optimus 3d-2822
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Because a useless horribly made app that isn't even optimized for QHD High resolution screens or dual cores defines a phone in the real world...
Same goes for linpack and smartbench and any other apps that claim to "benchmark" devices
My g2x overclocked to 1.5ghz hit 5100 on quadrant yet it wasn't up to my standards or others at that
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I think the reason he couldn't find The Green Hornet was cause I read that it came preloaded on the microsd card.... or like he said cause its a preproduction phone
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it was on his phone. I saw the icon when he first started talking about the apps. He mustve just missed it
not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere.. but if you go through a cashback site (fat wallet) you get $25 back from wirefly. Pre-ordered mine for 179.99 - $25 cb = $154.99 no taxt and free standard shipping.
still no answer about gorilla glass
The real reason behind the benchmarksbis not because the e3d soc is half as powerful as the others its bc its the only soc that has asynchronous cores..quadrant and other can account for the dual cores ..look at the gs2 its off the chart..but the e3d core does not run the same clock speeds on each core..its actually a benefit..an optimization..take those benchmarks.with a grain of salt..if.the processor suck its couldn't eat through 1080p video or run so smoothly..
Was anyone else impressed with the camera quality? Still shots were pretty good, but the reviewer recorded and showed a video recorded in QHD (960 x 540) resolution. It wasn't even 720p and the video quality and audio quality were pretty damn good, imo.
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Was anyone else impressed with the camera quality? Still shots were pretty good, but the reviewer recorded and showed a video recorded in QHD (960 x 540) resolution. It wasn't even 720p and the video quality and audio quality were pretty damn good, imo.
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I agree I thought they looked great..one of the best I've seen..an evo woth sick camera _phone seks
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Because a useless horribly made app that isn't even optimized for QHD High resolution screens or dual cores defines a phone in the real world...
Same goes for linpack and smartbench and any other apps that claim to "benchmark" devices
My g2x overclocked to 1.5ghz hit 5100 on quadrant yet it wasn't up to my standards or others at that
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I thought i read somewhere that android os wont take full advantage of multi core system untill ICS comes out? That is prob part of the reason as well.
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I thought i read somewhere that android os wont take full advantage of multi core system untill ICS comes out? That is prob part of the reason as well.
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Ice cream will take full advantage of dual core...
But even smartbench claims to be "optimized" for dual core devices... Even though they still have problems reading some dual core frequencies...
My advise don't buy a phone for benchmark scores and reciews....buy it because it will suit your every day needs.... Or dreams (3d video/pictures)
Yes take reviews and benchmarks into consideration but don't base your money on other peoples bias opitions and ****ty coded apps....
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Ice cream will take full advantage of dual core...
But even smartbench claims to be "optimized" for dual core devices... Even though they still have problems reading some dual core frequencies...
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I can add a bit here...
Smartbench 2011 is optimized for multi-cores (4 cores to be exact). It creates 4 identical threads that are assigned with identical workloads. Whether your phone has 2 or 4 cores, Smartbench (version 2011 only, 2010 was not designed to use multi-cores) will keep them busy, I can assure you.
I do have a problem with reading frequency though. One of the ROM developer has kindly given me some clues as to why this is happening. It is mainly around Tegra 2 devices that don't correctly report the right frequency when it is set. Also, the Sensation seems to be reporting it as zero as well. In the future versions, I will try to measure the clock speed during the run time without affecting the benchmark scores. It will be interesting to see how this works out on async processors such as the ones in the Sensation and this.
And once again, here's a article that explains facts on dual-core support for Android OS. It really doesn't require Ice Cream - Froyo with SMP will utilize both cores just fine:
http://bit.ly/jHw7Ga
I realize that this is the Vibrant forum, but it is the general section... so dont get too pissed about me posting a thread not really vibrant related.
So just thinking about processors (that may come come in the Nexus Prime), the two being rumored are Samsungs Exynos and the TI OMAP, from what i can tell.
How do these processors compare? In general the Exynos is generally regarded as better then the snapdragon (not trying to argue either way), but there are plenty of comparisons and topics on this comparison, but how does the Exynos compare to the OMAP? I can really find too many topics on it..
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Doesn't really matter how it compares right now, because Google can optimize ICS to run fast on Ti-OMAP 4460 while slow on other processors.
The same way when Froyo came out, the Snapdragon processors were able to gain a huge boost in CPU intensive tasks because they took full advantage of the Dalvik optimizations in Froyo. Hummingbird although newer than Snapdragon was not taking full advantage of Dalvik optimizations, thus it ran slower despite being a newer processor.
Nexus Prime running a Ti-Omap 4460 will be faster than any xynos because Google will make sure ICS is perfectly tuned to Ti-OMAP 4460.
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This is assuming nexus prime has a Ti-OMAP 4460.
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Doesn't really matter how it compares right now, because Google can optimize ICS to run fast on Ti-OMAP 4460 while slow on other processors.
The same way when Froyo came out, the Snapdragon processors were able to gain a huge boost in CPU intensive tasks because they took full advantage of the Dalvik optimizations in Froyo. Hummingbird although newer than Snapdragon was not taking full advantage of Dalvik optimizations, thus it ran slower despite being a newer processor.
Nexus Prime running a Ti-Omap 4460 will be faster than any xynos because Google will make sure ICS is perfectly tuned to Ti-OMAP 4460.
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thanks for the response. anyone else have any ideas on the two processors?
So, i watched the presentation last night, i did not see them announce the processor...
have any of the reviews confirmed which processor and GPU?
Its the omap 4460, TI made an announcement on it.Gpu wise its weaker than the exynos in the texture department as it has the sgx540. The biggest advantage it has over the NS or vibrant is the CPU and ram (hardware wise) benching the NS vs the Droid3 or Bionic shows the NS doing fairly close with the differences being probably due to the omap having a higher gpu clock and a processor that can feed the data to the gpu faster.
I can tell you that the chip has great performance, even at that higher resolution, I believe the blackberry playbook has it and that thing runs beautifully =D
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everything i'm reading about the omap is saying it's built for better HD performance, however clocking, number crunching and GPU it's weaker then the exynos found in the sgs II. actually there comparing the gpu to the one found in our Vibrant.
as dismal as this sounds, i'm still going for the Galaxy Nexus due to the stock interface and HD resolution...
or i can wait longer (god knows how much longer) and grab the sgs II HD thats currently only in Korea.
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qoutes from Extremetech website
"So now the OMAP4460 is getting quite a lot of scrutiny, even though it isn’t exactly a new chip. This dual-core SoC is clocked at 1.2GHz, and uses ARM Cortex-A9 architecture, just like the Exynos. That’s not a problem, but the older GPU, the PowerVR SGX540 is. We were hoping for a step up in the graphics department.
Why did Google choose the OMAP for its new Nexus? Well, it might not live up to the high graphical standards set out by the iPhone, but it is a solid chip in its own right. The OMAP4 platform makes use of an additional hardware accelerator called IVA 3 that makes encoding and decoding HD video a snap. The Galaxy Nexus has an HD screen, so this hardware focus on video is a big plus.
Google engineers were likely also drawn to the OMAP for its use of a dual-channel memory controller. Android’s multitasking system means that data is constantly being moved into, and out of, active memory. This is definitely a strength of TI’s OMAP parts"
hopefully that answers some of your questions.
Weak GPU, ****-tastic camera, no microSD slot, small battery, really high pricing (preliminary)...and once again plastic?
I don't get why Google felt they need to repeat the iPhone 4S announcement failure. The screen of the thing is amazing and its OS is. But the actual phone? Not so much.
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And I was so hyped about the "One phone to rule them all". . .
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Weak GPU, ****-tastic camera, no microSD slot, small battery, really high pricing (preliminary)...and once again plastic?
I don't get why Google felt they need to repeat the iPhone 4S announcement failure. The screen of the thing is amazing and its OS is. But the actual phone? Not so much.
:/
And I was so hyped about the "One phone to rule them all". . .
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The phone is still worth getting. It will always have the latest version of Android, and Android will run smoothly on it.
I'm never repeating my Vibrant mistake ever again. Running CM-7 with half ass GPS and no 911 calling, no thanks. Next time a Nexus only phone. Just wish it wasn't made by stupid Samsung, errrrr.
Or maybe Motorola phone now that Google owns them, higher chance of getting updates. Just my opinion though.
One last thing. I do agree about the lack of microsd. I was shocked when Nexus S didn't get it, and now again. Hmmmmm. You would think they would want a dev phone to have a microsd slot.
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Weak GPU, ****-tastic camera, no microSD slot, small battery, really high pricing (preliminary)...and once again plastic?
I don't get why Google felt they need to repeat the iPhone 4S announcement failure. The screen of the thing is amazing and its OS is. But the actual phone? Not so much.
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And I was so hyped about the "One phone to rule them all". . .
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Weak GPU? It is more than enough to drive a 720p screen at 60fps, as demonstrated consistently throughout the Galaxy Nexus hands-on videos.
How is the camera at all, as you so eloquently put it, '****-tastic'? From what I have seen (and trust me, it isn't nearly enough to make much of an impression to make a final call on its quality), the pictures look decent, with little chroma noise and balanced colours. The zero shutter-lag feature sounds most excellent as well, as most cellphone pictures turn out awful because of the nature of the beast (shaky hands and such). If your judgment is purely based on "Hurr because it's 5MP" then you are a moron.
Though I can lament the loss of a MicroSD card slot, most cards readily available to consumers (read: not newegg or amazon buyers) cannot even fathom being able to record 720p video, much less 1080p featured on the Galaxy Nexus. And using your smartphone as a primary MP3 player is only viable if you have no other use for the phone besides MP3 playing and occasional internet browsing, which would be just a flagrant waste of the ~$80 monthlies people pay for their plans.
And the 1,750mah battery is actually above-average (considering 1,450-1,500mah the standard), along with ICS' built-in 'app-freezing', carrier bloat will never be a cause for unnecessary battery drain again). The battery could last for days depending on your usage (Your mileage may ****ing vary, of course).
Really, high pricing? Really? If the previous two Nexus phones are any indication, it will cost $529 unlocked. Of course, it seems like a lot of money when you work retail or some other **** job, but then you shouldn't be playing with such expensive toys in the first place.
And plastic? Well this explains everything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
Your post gave me cancer.
Camera---Look at the Nexus S photos at Engadget and the Galaxy Nexus ones. They look IDENTICAL except for colors on the GN looking a bit worse actually. Last I remember, the Nexus S camera is on the level of the Vibrant...it's great for a 5MP but its nothing compared to the competition nowdays. Not backlit sensor, not f2.2 or lower, not even high resolution. No shutter lag? I use Camera360 on my Vibrant and have had that feature for MONTHS. As Engadget comments, the no shutter lag is because the camera on the Galaxy Nexus does not focus. It is just NO competition to a Galaxy S2 or Iphone 4S sadly.
GPU-It is a 1.6 or 1.7 times faster than the Vibrant. We already have a good GPU but...for crying out loud. It is half as slow as the Galaxy S2 one. And THAT itself is already getting old...been on the market for over 6 months. Shall we compare to the new iPhone 4S? Difference of 7 TIMES? I HATE iphones but Samsung and Google seriously didn't try here.
Battery. I am CURRENTLY running a Samsung-made OEM 1800mah in my Vibrant. Same size as our original 1500mah. Should I remind you the Vibrant runs on a 4.0 screen and is NOT HD resolution? For a device that is as big as the Galaxy Nexus (4.6 inches) and with that huge and beautiful screen, 1750 is just TINY. At LEAST a good 2000 or more should have been put in it. And its' not impossible to do at all. Samsung HAS the technology. The phone HAS the space. It's fatter than the Galaxy S2 (and godforbid the new Razor)...doesn't have a MicroSD slot. There is no excuse except laziness.
Pricing---Several retailers in Europe have already priced it. Cheapest one is ~700...typical one is 800 and some go all the way up to 950. Look up the gsmarena.com article if you wish. Off contract it will be an arm and a leg. On contract it will be $300. That makes it the MOST expensive phone both on and off contract. $530? Yeah...maybe at that price it would be something to consider but 800? For an amazing screen and software? Heh.
Like I said, the real star of that presentation was the software. Ice Cream sandwich is amazing. GPU Acceleration anyone?
The phone though it comes on? A letdown sadly. Trust me, I was going to buy it. Was waiting for it for 3 months now. No more. May either get a Galaxy S2 now or wait for a Galaxy S2 HD for the Nexus HD screen and the Galaxy S2 performance and features.
In the OMAP 4460, the SGX540 is clocked at 384 MHz which gives it a total output of ~6.2 GFLOPs. In comparison, the Mali-400 MP4 clocked at 200 MHz produces about ~7.2 GFLOPs, and ~10.8 GFLOPs at 300 MHz. So yeah, it's a step back from the Exynos but still very good.
Everything yea saying don't matter its all about optimization an camera looks great to me
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Camera---Look at the Nexus S photos at Engadget and the Galaxy Nexus ones. They look IDENTICAL except for colors on the GN looking a bit worse actually. Last I remember, the Nexus S camera is on the level of the Vibrant...it's great for a 5MP but its nothing compared to the competition nowdays. Not backlit sensor, not f2.2 or lower, not even high resolution. No shutter lag? I use Camera360 on my Vibrant and have had that feature for MONTHS. As Engadget comments, the no shutter lag is because the camera on the Galaxy Nexus does not focus. It is just NO competition to a Galaxy S2 or Iphone 4S sadly.
GPU-It is a 1.6 or 1.7 times faster than the Vibrant. We already have a good GPU but...for crying out loud. It is half as slow as the Galaxy S2 one. And THAT itself is already getting old...been on the market for over 6 months. Shall we compare to the new iPhone 4S? Difference of 7 TIMES? I HATE iphones but Samsung and Google seriously didn't try here.
Battery. I am CURRENTLY running a Samsung-made OEM 1800mah in my Vibrant. Same size as our original 1500mah. Should I remind you the Vibrant runs on a 4.0 screen and is NOT HD resolution? For a device that is as big as the Galaxy Nexus (4.6 inches) and with that huge and beautiful screen, 1750 is just TINY. At LEAST a good 2000 or more should have been put in it. And its' not impossible to do at all. Samsung HAS the technology. The phone HAS the space. It's fatter than the Galaxy S2 (and godforbid the new Razor)...doesn't have a MicroSD slot. There is no excuse except laziness.
Pricing---Several retailers in Europe have already priced it. Cheapest one is ~700...typical one is 800 and some go all the way up to 950. Look up the gsmarena.com article if you wish. Off contract it will be an arm and a leg. On contract it will be $300. That makes it the MOST expensive phone both on and off contract. $530? Yeah...maybe at that price it would be something to consider but 800? For an amazing screen and software? Heh.
Like I said, the real star of that presentation was the software. Ice Cream sandwich is amazing. GPU Acceleration anyone?
The phone though it comes on? A letdown sadly. Trust me, I was going to buy it. Was waiting for it for 3 months now. No more. May either get a Galaxy S2 now or wait for a Galaxy S2 HD for the Nexus HD screen and the Galaxy S2 performance and features.
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lmfao, best post all day. Gotta pay to play and $530 is pocket change for what you're getting in return.
Galaxy Nexus is clearly the device to get imo.
New Galaxy Nexus was just uncovered to only have 768MB RAM. Not a full GB.
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New Galaxy Nexus was just uncovered to only have 768MB RAM. Not a full GB.
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Uncovered by whom?
Probably that's all that is available after boot up.
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New Galaxy Nexus was just uncovered to only have 768MB RAM. Not a full GB.
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It's 1 GB.
My Tab 10.1 only shows 768 MB as well, but it's 1 GB. The Android System uses part of the RAM to operate. The rest you get as free RAM.
How do I know? Supercurio's Twitter.
"supercurio François Simond:
I read several websites listing #GalaxyNexus with 1GB RAM.. hmm, it's not quite what I found. Linux says: 648MB in total, 630 Available""
Now. He further investigated and Samsung did the same thing they did with the Vibrant. All of the memory combined on it is indeed 1GB. HOWEVER, they are reserving a ****load of memory for the GPU and other functions. Hence of that 1GB (the phone DOES have 1GB), on average there is SIGNIFICANTLY less. How much less? Read the Twitter status posted here. This is the equivalent of the HTC Sensation which has 768MB of RAM and actually IS listed to have 768MB.
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How do I know? Supercurio's Twitter.
"supercurio François Simond:
I read several websites listing #GalaxyNexus with 1GB RAM.. hmm, it's not quite what I found. Linux says: 648MB in total, 630 Available""
Now. He further investigated and Samsung did the same thing they did with the Vibrant. All of the memory combined on it is indeed 1GB. HOWEVER, they are reserving a ****load of memory for the GPU and other functions. Hence of that 1GB (the phone DOES have 1GB), on average there is SIGNIFICANTLY less. How much less? Read the Twitter status posted here. This is the equivalent of the HTC Sensation which has 768MB of RAM and actually IS listed to have 768MB.
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Great find. Thank you.
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can anyone point me to some really good hands on videos? i saw the one on phandroid and engadget the night all was announced. but are there any good videos that show a little more in depth?
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How do I know? Supercurio's Twitter.
"supercurio François Simond:
I read several websites listing #GalaxyNexus with 1GB RAM.. hmm, it's not quite what I found. Linux says: 648MB in total, 630 Available""
Now. He further investigated and Samsung did the same thing they did with the Vibrant. All of the memory combined on it is indeed 1GB. HOWEVER, they are reserving a ****load of memory for the GPU and other functions. Hence of that 1GB (the phone DOES have 1GB), on average there is SIGNIFICANTLY less. How much less? Read the Twitter status posted here. This is the equivalent of the HTC Sensation which has 768MB of RAM and actually IS listed to have 768MB.
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Supercurio already has a Galaxy Nexus one day after announcement? Didn't know the devs got it that fast.
why cant our dual core 1.5ghz phones even play 1080 flash videos smoothly
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why cant our dual core 1.5ghz phones even play 1080 flash videos smoothly
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Technically, Gingerbread does not fully support dual core processors...
hyphydragon said:
why cant our dual core 1.5ghz phones even play 1080 flash videos smoothly
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you mean youtube 1080p or something like that??? good question, guessing our phones don't have the decoders to do that and do not take full advantage of the gpu and cpu. But in any case our screens are not 1080p its not even 720p, it's qhd meaning 1/4 of actual 1080p. so there would be no point anyways..
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hasoon2000 said:
Technically, Gingerbread does not fully support dual core processors...
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hmm, I didn't know that, so technically we have a phone that's not using its full potential at the moment, its kinda like when all these dual core computers came out with windows xp, when it wasn't even supported...The players also have to support hardware encoding and there's a lot of other factors..
seansk said:
you mean youtube 1080p or something like that??? good question, guessing our phones don't have the decoders to do that and do not take full advantage of the gpu and cpu. But in any case our screens are not 1080p its not even 720p, it's qhd meaning 1/4 of actual 1080p. so there would be no point anyways..
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hmm, I didn't know that, so technically we have a phone that's not using its full potential at the moment, its kinda like when all these dual core computers came out with windows xp, when it wasn't even supported...The players also have to support hardware encoding and there's a lot of other factors..
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Pretty much. lol. You can see that multi-core support was added to Honeycomb.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
hasoon2000 said:
Pretty much. lol. You can see that multi-core support was added to Honeycomb.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
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Hah whats funny is that I have a galaxy tab 10.1 and my phone runs videos that the tab can't and a better smoother performance too...lol...it has a lot to do with the player and the decoders as well and how they use the system. samsung is the master of that, they include a lot of good support for video and audio play on their phones...but unfortunately I refuse to upgrade to touchwiz on my tab and rather stay stock honeycomb and just convert videos on my desktop and watch them later on my tab.
i had the sensation before the amaze and it played 1080 perfect with the exact same cpu/soc and less ram and lower clock 1.2ghz, and ill respectfully disagree that playing videos in 1080 doesnt make a difference as it clearly does
720p cant read small text on streams and in 1080 i can read it perfect just its going at 2 fps >,<
btw i had faux kernel on my sensation and i also have it in my amaze
hyphydragon said:
i had the sensation before the amaze and it played 1080 perfect with the exact same cpu/soc and less ram and lower clock 1.2ghz, and ill respectfully disagree that playing videos in 1080 doesnt make a difference as it clearly does
720p cant read small text on streams and in 1080 i can read it perfect just its going at 2 fps >,<
btw i had faux kernel on my sensation and i also have it in my amaze
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I don't know, maybe its not true 1080p or true 720p, they might have been encoded with loss of quality to save space...ask others see what they think. If you think that's the case download this program it converts all files to other files...and convert the flash videos to mp4 1080p files
http://www.freemake.com/
seansk said:
I don't know, maybe its not true 1080p or true 720p, they might have been encoded with loss of quality to save space...ask others see what they think. If you think that's the case download this program it converts all files to other files...and convert the flash videos to mp4 1080p files
http://www.freemake.com/
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thank you for being so helpful but the video i m referring to is on live streams like on twitch.tv justin.tv or own3d.tv
hyphydragon said:
thank you for being so helpful but the video i m referring to is on live streams like on twitch.tv justin.tv or own3d.tv
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make sure to have adobe flashplayer installed
Felinos11 said:
make sure to have adobe flashplayer installed
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also make sure you're getting decent reception wifi preferably, so the data can come in clearly and not choppy. what is it that you're trying to watch I'll try it on my phone and see if I have the same problem then try my gf sensation and see if I see a difference... unless its something inappropriate lol
I imagine ics has dual core support right? I mean, its built on honeycomb, hopefully well have hd on YouTube lol
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Hi there,
I'm confused regarding any speculations, etc if the HTC EVO 3D records 1080p video. The official specs say that it records 720p on 2D now.
Is there a custom rom which allows recording in 1080p? If yes, which is it?
Do you think it's worth the money over the HTC Sensation / Sensation XE? 300eur / 350eur / 399eur
Thanks
It doesn't do 1080p last time I checked. This is more or less a hardware limitation. I would just save my money and wait for the One series instead of considering this phone or the Sensation. Both are pretty outdated now.
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Its not really a hardware limitation. They are 5megapixel so they have enough for 1080p...
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ceyo14 said:
Its not really a hardware limitation. They are 5megapixel so they have enough for 1080p...
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1080p is about 2 mp so you're right. But I'm not sure if there's any limitation on processing the 1080p recording. Compressing is more work than decompressing. And even more work for 3d. Not saying it can't be done, but that could be another limitation. I'm not sure where anyone got stuck trying to achieve this.
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sensation does 1080p and our evo is technically more powerful, it is software because the wtsb rom does it using gpu rendering.
I think the One S is overpriced for it's specs. It has a Krait 1.5Ghz CPU and Adreno 225 and 8MP. The only thing it has is a better picture and video sensor. Also the 16GB onboard memory is not expandable! (no MicroSD) ;/
The One X is way to big to keep in my hand - 4.7inch. more than 4.3inches screen is an overkill for me ;/
The One X would be a revolutionary phone, though the size is what keeps me back.
Would consider spending 300eur vs 500eur? 200eur difference!
Also is the wtsb rom stable enough? Heard it has bugs in messages, 3D games, and some more. Have these been fixed?
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I think the One S is overpriced for it's specs. It has a Krait 1.5Ghz CPU and Adreno 225 and 8MP. The only thing it has is a better picture and video sensor. Also the 16GB onboard memory is not expandable! (no MicroSD) ;/
The One X is way to big to keep in my hand - 4.7inch. more than 4.3inches screen is an overkill for me ;/
The One X would be a revolutionary phone, though the size is what keeps me back.
Would consider spending 300eur vs 500eur? 200eur difference!
Also is the wtsb rom stable enough? Heard it has bugs in messages, 3D games, and some more. Have these been fixed?
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LOL, One S is way better than One X and One XL is better than both.
The Dual-core krait is a lot more powerful than Quad-core tegra 3.
Search "tegra3 vs krait" on google and see benchmark tests and reviews.
ceyo14 said:
Its not really a hardware limitation. They are 5megapixel so they have enough for 1080p...
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mp its not the issue here, frames/sec while sustaining those mp it is...
if the camera requires more than 1/60 of sec to elaborate those pixels you cant use it for video, only for still images.
Ah I see, I think it's worth the wait for the One S then. I've compared some benchmarks, mainly tegra 3 gets defeated in loads of benchmarks as it's not using its full potential - 4 cores. Although tegra 3 scores higher in GPU intensive stuff.
One S get around the 430eur mark and I'll buy you will it?
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Ah I see, I think it's worth the wait for the One S then. I've compared some benchmarks, mainly tegra 3 gets defeated in loads of benchmarks as it's not using its full potential - 4 cores. Although tegra 3 scores higher in GPU intensive stuff.
One S get around the 430eur mark and I'll buy you will it?
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mostly look like that snapdragon 3 was really memory starved, nearly all the S4 speed increment comes out of moving from a single channel 266mhz memory interface to a dual channel 500mhz one.
point of note, tegra 3 has a 1066mhz dual channel one and still is slower, in this case is just a core efficiency problem, probably the common cache memory is too small and the cores fight for accessing memory between themselves.
meanrom has a 1080p option, but it doesn't work.
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1080p 3D recoding?
Hi guys!
This, allmost 1 year old ROM, in his description says it has not 1080p 2D recording but "1080p 3d recording in cam"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1205331
This is CDMA version, so I cannot try it.
Can anyone test it?
And there are a lot of "Can EVO 3D do 1080p?" questions, and nobody even mentioned this ROM. Why?
The amaze camera app has the 1080p bit rate and you can find it in the dev section
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Does anyone have any benchmarks? I want to see some raw speed results of the SGS3's Quad Core Arm Mali-400 MP4 vs the iPhone 5's Triple Core PowerVR SGX543MP3.
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The iPhone 5 looks so unimpressive compared to the SGS3 on all fronts but I'm not seeing any results for the new GPU they're using.
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....ple iPhone 5&D2=Samsung GT-I9300 Galaxy S III
The iPhone is roughly twice as fast.
AndreiLux said:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....ple iPhone 5&D2=Samsung GT-I9300 Galaxy S III
The iPhone is roughly twice as fast.
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Thanks, looks like if mobile gaming is your thing then the iPhone 5 is the way to go if you don't mind the smaller screen, otherwise, the SGS3 seems to beat the iPhone 5 in every area, for me anyway.
ExEvolution said:
Thanks, looks like if mobile gaming is your thing then the iPhone 5 is the way to go if you don't mind the smaller screen, otherwise, the SGS3 seems to beat the iPhone 5 in every area, for me anyway.
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Even though the i5 doesn't have enough resolution to take advantage of that much power,but the S3 has...
Anyway,it's faster in gpu performance,worse overall for me.
I don,t believe i that test. I ran the same bench here, and everything was running pretty smooth until a warning popped up saying ''vsync enabled''
After that everything became crappy, 11 fps. Every single time i tried the bench. Pretty weird for me. I saw somewhere some complains about wrong results on the test.
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tntgdh said:
I don,t believe i that test. I ran the same bench here, and everything was running pretty smooth until a warning popped up saying ''vsync enabled''
After that everything became crappy, 11 fps. Every single time i tried the bench. Pretty weird for me. I saw somewhere some complains about wrong results on the test.
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First time I hear of such a thing. GLBenchmark is pretty much the industry standard and one of the most reliable ones out there.
woah that Iphone5 gpu seems dammm powerful if thats correct benchmark result one thing i dont get is why there isnt a result yet for much of the iphone 5 I mean if they were going to give it a test why in the hell wouldnt you do all tests. very strange if you ask me
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woah that Iphone5 gpu seems dammm powerful if thats correct benchmark result one thing i dont get is why there isnt a result yet for much of the iphone 5 I mean if they were going to give it a test why in the hell wouldnt you do all tests. very strange if you ask me
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6324/the-iphone-5-performance-preview
ip5 gpu just raped the Mali S3 Daymm, But If the SGS3 was released in September I think it would of beat the Ip5 in that department.. And I really do think the I9305 will help the benchmarks slightly and overall performance but thats about it untill the next SGS4... I really think sammy should reallly become future proof in the next S4 especially if they release it before Ip5
I own a I9300 and soon will get the I9305, I have played with the IP5 - I9300 - I9305 the overall feel and ui performance I LOVE the I9300 and especially the I9305.. Not a single stutter. The GS3 just feels better You cant go from android Jelly bean back to IOS its just going backwards and feels so so so DULLL. I recently was watching a movie on 1080P On my HD LG 40Inch connected to my GS3 OMG its unbeleivable simple thing like that made my day lol seriously im happy with the GS3 and will be alittle bit happier with the I9305.. for a while .. I am in no hurry to get another phone after this next one.
Blah still would rather use Android!
Impressive performance indeed. But the OS lets it down severely. It's like having a 800HP motor in Chinese made Cherry. Rather drive a 206 180GT Peugeot. It'll handle those corners unlike the Cherry and the Navigation system works!
So guessing Apple is fragmented now? So many devices to cater for, different screen resolutions etc. They stuffed up maps, so I wonder how screen resolution scaling is working out for the i5?
Seems it might be an iFail for them with the i5 going from reviews. Check out any Apple forum, there is a flood of negative feedback on build quality.. Seems 1/3 phones have visible scratches out of the box. Fingernails scratching paint off the bezel with ease etc.
Gotta feel sorry for there pedantic fans that are focused purely on image. The Apple is rotten, scratched and bruised.
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Samsung needs to drop Mali and go PowerVR Their GPU is seriously better in every way
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Samsung needs to drop Mali and go PowerVR Their GPU is seriously better in every way
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Samsung doesn't need to drop Mali. The T-604 in the 5250 will be already be faster than the 543MP3. People tend to forget the Mali-400 and its derivatives are about 3 years old by now. You don't just suddenly change GPU licensee every 6 months because the competition has a temporary performance advantage. Rogue is still far away into next year and we'll also see second generation Vithar architectures from ARM by then.
Powervr seems to always be way ahead of the pack on the gpu side.
Look at the new adreno in the S4 only just about matches the iphone 5 in some benches.
The S4 hasn't been out long and look at how badly it compares.
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Well the na s3 has a better GPU too but would not trade my international one for it.
Besides if it has 3 GPUs of the 543 then the PS Vita has 4 of them. Which is cheaper and has better games!!
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I honestly didn't think iPoop5 would beat GS3 , let alone r*pe it like it did here.
S3 was advertised as the Beast of an Hardware can't believe IP5 smokes it
Who gives a **** even if the SGS3 was twice as fast if the entire experience was not upto scruff,
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Samsung needs to drop Mali and go PowerVR Their GPU is seriously better in every way
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you should be happy to see the older architecture of mali (400mp) still gives a run for money with the new comers in the competition like adreno 320. next gen mali (t604,t658) which will debut soon will give them back the performance crown
I heard the Mali is really weak in the triangle part of the benchmark, and it is obvious seeing the results. I do hope the new mali T604 isnt.
I still don't get why no one uses the a15 architecture in the cpu. Anyway, graphics are always going to be faster on newer chips, that's just how it goes. It is suprising that the other benchmarks aren't beating the S4/Exinos/Tegra. I bet the new Mali, tegra 4, next adrenos are going to be harder to beat.
The thing is that now people who have android flagships have no reason to move to ios and people who want a new super flagship phone should probably just wait till Christmas and get something that beats them all! I really don't see the point of spending all that money on something as locked down and limited as the iphone knowing that it already isn't the king in it's sector. The rest should just buy something like the razr m, al lot cheaper and gives you everthing you' d ever need(the fact that it's not going to be sold in europe really p""""s me off)!
The new lumia on the other hand really sounds nice(hope I don't need to defragment the disk every week with windows phone!).
And still while I right this iphone sales are probably hitting 5 million... people are stupid...
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I heard the Mali is really weak in the triangle part of the benchmark, and it is obvious seeing the results. I do hope the new mali T604 isnt.
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Mali 400 is weak in vertex processing because it has fixed units to do vertex processing (1 unit afaik, the rest for pixel processing) :. But that's not the case with new 6 series gpu, all of them are dynamic cores which can share the workload.
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