Related
I got the keyboard dock for the Transformer yesterday and I am kind of on the fence about whether or not to keep it. I think my main issue with it is that, while it improves the output capability of the tablet, in actual usage I find it to be a vastly inferior experience compared to even a 2 year old cheap netbook.
I was hoping that the transformer w/dock would be a good alternative to buying a new netbook, but with a keyboard attached to the thing I find myself slipping out of "screwing around on a tablet" mode and into "lets get some work done on a PC" mode. The problem is that when you actually decide to "get some work done on a tablet" I find that I am encountering far more frustration than productivity.
At this point, I am thinking about returning the dock and putting the $150 toward a new netbook (or rather waiting for the Kal-El netbooks to come out).
Maybe if we could get linux working on the thing it might change my mind...
Well, to each his own, is my feeling on that type of thing. I am typing this on my keyboard dock now and I love it. It is vastly superior to the alternative (search and peck on the on-screen keyboard). While it may not be "as good" as a netbook experience, it is just a different thing. The keyboard dock is meant to compliment the tablet and enhance the user experience. I also like the portability of the combination when the transformer is docked. If I had a bluetooth keyboard it would not be near as portble and the screen would not be protected by being closed in a netbook configuration. Good luck with your decision.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
how is the experience much worse than a netbook? all the buttons are there. when you push the buttons the letters show up on the screen.
i love my dock battery life is crazy long. plus you can still touch the screen for those things that are easier to do that way. i would not enjoy my transformer as much without my dock thats for sure. i have replaced my laptop with the transformer and have not seen anything yet that i need my laptop for. all my videos work emailing document reading and streaming video. i dont do much else on a computer so this is perfect for me. plus the ability to plug my ps3 controller in is cool. has anyone used it for ps1 emulators??
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
Have you actually tried to write and edit a doc in Polaris? Try highlighting some text, copying and pasting it etc. It works, but not well. For quick editing or typing emails it isn't that bad.
Also (and this is a bit off topic) is there a way to bring up the recent/open apps list from the keyboard? It would make multitasking a lot easier.
el_brio said:
Have you actually tried to write and edit a doc in Polaris? Try highlighting some text, copying and pasting it etc. It works, but not well. For quick editing or typing emails it isn't that bad.
Also (and this is a bit off topic) is there a way to bring up the recent/open apps list from the keyboard? It would make multitasking a lot easier.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I often find stock apps to be lacking no matter what device i buy. I'm using quickoffice HD and while the tablet will never be as fast at a netbook until someone makes keyboard shortcuts for copy paste operations, its perfectly fine for most of the writing that i do which is not copy/paste intensive. In polaris i believe you have to keep holding down for the long menu but in quickoffice you long hold once to bring up the context menu, do select text and the copy button should be up top. The part that is different than polaris is with something in the clipboard, the cursor will have a paste icon next to it until you paste the text, so it saves you one long press to paste.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
el_brio said:
Have you actually tried to write and edit a doc in Polaris? Try highlighting some text, copying and pasting it etc. It works, but not well. For quick editing or typing emails it isn't that bad.
Also (and this is a bit off topic) is there a way to bring up the recent/open apps list from the keyboard? It would make multitasking a lot easier.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ive only used out for small docs. But I guess I got used to using my phone keyboard so anything else feels soo much faster and nicer.
why don't you just reach over to the screen and hit the screen button for previously used windows? I always alternate between keyboard and screen touches. Feels natural and fluid to me. But then again my laptop is a touchscreen too so maybe I'm just used to reaching over.
Sent from my X10i using XDA Premium App
It's not that it is really bad.... but the way some things work are just frustrating knowing that it could be done so much better. I guess what it comes down to is that (despite all of the differences) Honeycomb is really just an upsized version of a cell phone OS. I will likely keep the dock because it makes for a nice travel package and is good way to extend battery life, but I guess I was just expecting to be completely wowed by it and I am very underwhelmed.
You have to take into account that the OS itself isn't even six months old, and Google didn't originally plan for it to take off as a laptop alternative. The fact that there at least exists a keyboard dock like this to help bridge the gap between laptops and tablets is pretty incredible in itself, and there are sure to be many more improvements to come.
Growing pains as an early adopter are to be expected. Developers just haven't had enough time yet to flesh out the OS, so you're going to be stuck without a lot of features for a while. Just give it some time, and hopefully by the time the Honeycomb source code gets released you'll see an influx of new features contributed from other frustrated users and developers.
el_brio said:
Have you actually tried to write and edit a doc in Polaris? Try highlighting some text, copying and pasting it etc. It works, but not well. For quick editing or typing emails it isn't that bad.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My girlfriend owns a netbook that is in a drawer some place. Attempting to type a document on it makes me want to punch babies. It, just like the TF, is only good for quick documents/emails and consuming data.
If I really want to do something I use my massive, quad core SSD powered laptop with full keyboard (or its usually docked into a keyboard/mouse and dual 24" screens).
This is a pure mobility machine. I take it with me on weekend travels and vacations, out to cafes to meet with some friends/clients to talk over a document or media. For that its great.
Its actually smaller/lighter than my Dell ultraportable that I "gifted" to my girlfriend. I used to miss that little laptop and its portablility, I have that back now along with touch screen functionality, a superior screen and with the dock double the battery life. Without the dock its less than half the size/weight.
Lets point somethings out. Your dock also has 2 usb ports and an sd card reader. These two features give the dock quite a bit of added flexability when it comes to emulating a full blown laptop. To name just a few ways you can use these features : Portable hard drive, usb flash drives for music, movies, documents and media. ub mouse, usb keyboard (sound redundant but you can do it) charge your phone, connect your camera...
I can go all day, use your imagination. The dock's main draw is easy typing, connectivity, and longevity via battery pack. It's not suppose to turn the tablet into a netbook it's ment to make your tablet better than they other tabelets out there. Which if you want proof, find some tool with an Ipad and pop this thing in and out of the dock and watch his EEEpad envy grow.
lacrossev said:
I often find stock apps to be lacking no matter what device i buy. I'm using quickoffice HD and while the tablet will never be as fast at a netbook until someone makes keyboard shortcuts for copy paste operations, its perfectly fine for most of the writing that i do which is not copy/paste intensive. In polaris i believe you have to keep holding down for the long menu but in quickoffice you long hold once to bring up the context menu, do select text and the copy button should be up top. The part that is different than polaris is with something in the clipboard, the cursor will have a paste icon next to it until you paste the text, so it saves you one long press to paste.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click at the start of the text to be selected, hold down shift, select the text with the arrow buttons, or by clicking on the one of the text.
Then Ctrl + C to copy, Ctrl + X to cut, and Ctrl + V to paste.
probably going to sell mine...just don't use it for much.
I need a calculator app to add up how many times i've charged my phone from my dock already! another adapter is something else i don't need to carry around.
Instant screenshot taking and uploading to the cloud/dropbox.
Hardrive access via USB port.
yadda, yadda, yadda
It's already mentioned in previous posts, however I find my self using it for multiple purposes:
1) Keyboard Dock = portable netbook
2) Desktop Stand
3) Recharges Tablet
4) Adds USB Ports and additional 32gb MicroSD storage
5) Allows connection to portable hard drives
6) USB ports also charge my cell phone and BT ear pieces
The only frustration I still have is the lag when typing in the Browser...but I'm dealing with it until the next update hopefully resolves this known issue.
Sorry but Keyboard Dock =/= portable netbook. If you try to use this as a netbook it fails miserably in my opinion.
Another gripe is that there is apparently no way to configure the sensitivity of the touch pad. Mine is waaaaaay to sensitive. I think a particle of dust falling from the sky would make the thing click on a link.
Azhad said:
Click at the start of the text to be selected, hold down shift, select the text with the arrow buttons, or by clicking on the one of the text.
Then Ctrl + C to copy, Ctrl + X to cut, and Ctrl + V to paste.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^ i was gonna ask if using shift/arrows to highlight and then copy, cut, and paste didnt work... i dont have the transformer yet so i can't comment on actual use of the tablet but i know when using a laptop(full laptop not even a netbook) i do quite a bit of copying, cutting, and pasting with the keys/arrows instead of trying to use the touchpad
for me its easier to just hit shift, push down arrow a few times, ctrl+c or x, then either scroll to or mouse click when i want to paste and hit ctrl+v
guess i'll find out in a week or two when i get my pad, but i dont see how copy/paste issues stop it from being a viable netbook if you can use the keys
and the added benefit of being able to charge a phone from the dock without killing your tablet battery is nice especially if you have a phone that you can use as a hotspot, who needs 3g/4g netbooks when your phone does that for you and now can easily remained charged
Not to disagree with the op but this is a tablet and it's good at being a tablet. No matter what you plug into it or software you install on it - it is what it is. With that said, I leverage what it is as best I can. It's not designed to replace my computer but it sure the heck can remote into my computer and when I have the keyboard attached it's not as good as a netbook, it's far and away better. I can type, watch movies, edit pictures, pop off emails, whatever I need or want to do. If you can find a netbook with a 1280 x 800 IPS display that will provide you with full multimedia remote desktop connection, more power to you... of course, good luck holding the netbook sideways to read a magazine on it and come chat with me after a few hours pass and ask me how my battery life is doing.
recondo1202 said:
4) Adds USB Ports and additional 32gb MicroSD storage
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually it's SD storage (which I believe you can purchase up to 64gb), though you can use MicroSD with an adapter.
I got my dock and I don't see myself using it that much either. I do want it for when I travel instead of taking along a laptop and I can use the SD card reader to offload pictures from my Nikon.
Man, I just got the dock today and I love this thing... it works really really well.
Very very pleased overall.
I've only had the keyboard a few days, and realize there are several shortcuts I'll need to learn to eliminate needing to touch the screen. I couldn't figure out how to scroll down a long web page until someone mentioned using two-finger swipe on the touchpad. I spent 20 minutes just trying to figure out what all the top-row keys do. There really SHOULD be a detailed user manual with all these tips in it.
I was using my TFP while brushing my teeth this morning and noticed something very strange. Did my diligence and didn't noticed anything else on the forums about it.
The TFP was on the counter as I was reading through the morning's posts via Google Reader. I opened a link that went to the stock browser and noticed that after I stopped touching the tablet, it developed some white lines, maybe 3/4 cm long and 3 mm or so apart, all along the length of the left edge of the tablet while it was in landscape orientation.
When I picked it up, the problem went away. When I put it down, it happened again after a second, so I picked it up again, and it went away again. This time I took a closer look to make sure my eyes weren't playing tricks on me, so I was holding it a bit longer. After I put it down, the problem didn't reappear, and hasn't yet happened again, even after carrying it into work with me.
Has anyone else had this problem? The lines went down the entire edge and into the back button. The lines weren't static either, changing length horizontally but not vertically.
I'm not sure if it's a hardware or software problem, but either way, I'm inclined to exchange, return, or RMA it. Starting to have enough minor problems that it's becoming a major fuss.
--edit--
Now that I think about it, I had just showered - humidity could be a factor, but that was like 20 minutes earlier.
white lines
I had something very similar happen yesterday..see pics.
Btw. Steamed music and Bluetooth connected to Bose with no problem.didn't try video.
Received mine via UPS from Best Buy at 4pm, returned it at 8pm. BB ordered a new one, which will arrive 01/14.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
Wow, mine didn't do anything nearly that bad. Maybe that's the next phase of this issue though.
wokka00 said:
I was using my TFP while brushing my teeth this morning and noticed something very strange. Did my diligence and didn't noticed anything else on the forums about it.
The TFP was on the counter as I was reading through the morning's posts via Google Reader. I opened a link that went to the stock browser and noticed that after I stopped touching the tablet, it developed some white lines, maybe 3/4 cm long and 3 mm or so apart, all along the length of the left edge of the tablet while it was in landscape orientation.
When I picked it up, the problem went away. When I put it down, it happened again after a second, so I picked it up again, and it went away again. This time I took a closer look to make sure my eyes weren't playing tricks on me, so I was holding it a bit longer. After I put it down, the problem didn't reappear, and hasn't yet happened again, even after carrying it into work with me.
Has anyone else had this problem? The lines went down the entire edge and into the back button. The lines weren't static either, changing length horizontally but not vertically.
I'm not sure if it's a hardware or software problem, but either way, I'm inclined to exchange, return, or RMA it. Starting to have enough minor problems that it's becoming a major fuss.
--edit--
Now that I think about it, I had just showered - humidity could be a factor, but that was like 20 minutes earlier.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the same thing on my tf300; does anyone know what this is?
thesnaz said:
I have the same thing on my tf300; does anyone know what this is?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my tf201 has this problem occasionally as well.
it seems to be a memory/multitasking issue in android itself.
on my tf201 it happens when switching from a game to a non-gpu or graphics intensive app.
simple solution is that you need to kill some of the tasks in the background, then restart your app. then it goes away.
it seems to be some kind of memory leak in the graphics subsystem...
DaoMingJin said:
my tf201 has this problem occasionally as well.
it seems to be a memory/multitasking issue in android itself.
on my tf201 it happens when switching from a game to a non-gpu or graphics intensive app.
simple solution is that you need to kill some of the tasks in the background, then restart your app. then it goes away.
it seems to be some kind of memory leak in the graphics subsystem...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Whew... As long as it's not some sort of physical damage, I can live with it
It went away with newer firmwares. Pops up once in a while, but I think it's related to the graphics system. If I unload everything from the quickswitch, the triangle issue and this one don't occur anymore.
Anyone figure this out? I get it the odd time as well.
See attached. (The vertical lines in the picture are just from the camera.)
i've been getting the same problem with mine, just recently, i've done a hard reset but it comes right back. I requested an RMA from Asus, is it worth sending in and is it something that is fixable or is it just a software issue with 4.0.3.
And where is this quickswitch that you unloaded everything from..
i mailed it back, i told them i either wanted the wifi & the static lines fixed, a refund or an upgrade to a 700. Not that they care
For some unknown reason, sometimes the keyboard will get stuck in caps lock (without caps lock being on) and other times the typing cursor will go back to the start of a paragraph, usually interrupting a sentence that I'm already typing out.
The pads inside the keyboard dock near the connector are starting to rub off from the cheap glue not holding it properly. Design flaw from not thinking that the Tablet will be frequently removed and inserted into the dock.
The rubber bumper on the bottom of the keyboard dock near the touchpad fell off. Cheap glue is the culprit.
Touchpad is a redundant feature to the Prime, and really has no point in even being on it. I'd rather have better battery life instead of it. (Purely opinion.)
If holding shift while pressing backspace, it will not delete. Keyboard needs multi-press functionality.
Mura on the screen. (Bright spot)
Internal GPS basically doesn't exist since it doesn't work well.
Both the tablet and keyboard dock are very easily scratched. There's more irregular scratch marks on the back of the tablet compared to the laser-etched rings.
The stock browser, even after a factory reset (.28), is completely unstable and hangs/stutters/crashes regularly at least 20 times a day.
The worst part about the browser is that some days it's highly unstable and then another day it works perfectly.
I haven't had issues with Wifi or Bluetooth, Wifi has been fine. I don't use Bluetooth so I'm unsure if it's a problem.
Lastly, while the screen is gorgeous, the colors are a tad warm.
And sadly, my phone performs better than my Prime while simply browsing the internet and handling multiple tasks. (Samsung Infuse 4G)
For those who feel the need to give this thread a low rating, that's fine, because this is (for the most part) fact-based problems with MY Prime. You can pretend your Prime is perfect, but it's not. I may be picky, sure, but these are problems that I'm not just making up with the one I have now.
This also isn't saying "Oh no the Prime is teh worzt tablut evuuurrr dn't buy dis." I'm just sharing the negatives I've experienced with my model of the TF201. Perhaps even informative to ASUS so they'll better know how to refine their next models. (If they even look at this post, which is highly unlikely.)
I still believe the Prime is a premium tablet, but it DOES have issues.
So return it and wait or get something else..... Logic
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
its possible your stock browser still using old data. to remedy this, clear your browser cache then reboot. then hopefully your stock browser will be working fine. just try it if you haven't already
as for the cursor jumping while docked, I have THST issue also. its only happens while the touchpad is enabled. remedy for that is to press the button on dock to disable touchpad. then THST problem goes away. since you don't like touchpad, I would figure you'd disable it anyways.
GPS dongle is the solution to internal GPS. if you don't have GPS dongle, you better send off for one asap. its free and the offer ends very soon. just go to Asus website where you register your prime and fill out the GPS dongle application. then you will receive it in a week or 2.
People need to stop including GPS as a problem there's no use for it on a tablet so it doesn't matter if it doesn't work!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
I would suggest you to download the .28 again, this time from the Asus Webpage, and install it from the SD Card. If you keep having those weird issues I think you got a defective Prime.
I connect/Disconnect my prime from the dock very often, and I have had none of the issues you describe.
If holding shift while pressing backspace, it will not delete. Keyboard needs multi-press functionality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats actually a feature... shift+backspace = sup.
Keyboard has multi-press functionality. There is a file around here in XDA with all the short cuts for the keyboard. (there are A LOT of them).
Both the tablet and keyboard dock are very easily scratched. There's more irregular scratch marks on the back of the tablet compared to the laser-etched rings.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is full Alu man, what did you expect? Any other Alu tab will get scrated just as easy.
Touchpad is a redundant feature to the Prime, and really has no point in even being on it. I'd rather have better battery life instead of it. (Purely opinion.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The TouchPad is also MultiTouch, depending on what you are doing, it IS useful. Specially if you do some precision work and need better accuracy.
ian1 said:
People need to stop including GPS as a problem there's no use for it on a tablet so it doesn't matter if it doesn't work!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do use it man! and quite a bit. I dont use the GPS dongle since I use a TranSleeve, GPS on my Prime works wonders when outside.
joeyddr said:
So return it and wait or get something else..... Logic
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1) Can't RMA it because ASUS will claim CID on it (customer induced damage) because of the dent on the corner. (I'm also not willing to wait 3 weeks just for them to mark it CID).
2) Can't return it, even if I followed the instruction of that one forum post telling you to call ASUS and tell them about not being satisfied, etc etc. PLUS it's way past the 14 day return policy, not just by a month or two, but 5. Plus what I said above about CID. You can't return a damaged product (physically) and expect a full refund.
Logic.
demandarin said:
its possible your stock browser still using old data. to remedy this, clear your browser cache then reboot. then hopefully your stock browser will be working fine. just try it if you haven't already
as for the cursor jumping while docked, I have THST issue also. its only happens while the touchpad is enabled. remedy for that is to press the button on dock to disable touchpad. then THST problem goes away. since you don't like touchpad, I would figure you'd disable it anyways.
GPS dongle is the solution to internal GPS. if you don't have GPS dongle, you better send off for one asap. its free and the offer ends very soon. just go to Asus website where you register your prime and fill out the GPS dongle application. then you will receive it in a week or 2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've factory reset the Prime multiple times. I'm pretty sure that deletes the old data. If not, then I'll give it a try.
The cursor jumping is not the touchpad, I always have it disabled. (Else I'd be a hypocrite!)
I have the GPS dongle, and it's great, it's just that I wish that the internal GPS would have been the same.
@Zephyrot
I'll try installing from the SD Card, this wasn't really supposed to become a Q&A, but it wouldn't hurt to take advice.
shift+backspace=sup. what is that? It doesn't help when I type quickly.
Yes I realize that being aluminum that the tablet would scratch, but I'm just nitpicking at that point.
I don't find the touchpad to be helpful because anything I can do on my touchpad, I can do on my screen. Again, this was a purely opinion based point.
Multiple issue threads already... post your problems in one of those threads, instead of starting a new one, please.
Thread Closed.
Everything I like about the phone is irrelevant. I like it a lot but there are a lot of things I don't like Convince me why the things I hate about it don't matter much?
Screen auto brightness keeps it way too dim in a dark room.
Over sharpening text on certain webpages (Certain text on a light colored backgrounds looks awful until you zoom way in, basically unuseable sites).
On screen buttons mean less screen real estate (screenshot).
Need the ability to hide home row buttons on ALL screens (system apps too).
Knock off doesn't work on Google Now Launcher. (thanks to nfuNk user I discovered this still works if you double-tap the notifications bar, but not a real solution.)
Google Play Services using tons of battery life (no longer the case after first day... problem solved because LG appears to fake battery usage).
Way too much space used by toggles and sliders in notifications drop down. Killing volume slider was a must just to make it usable for other notifications.
Charging port is hard to plug into even with included cable and feels like it's going to bust sometimes. You have to slide in from the top. Very un-inotive.
My MHL adapter won't plug in at all and I found out it's because LG uses Slimport to do HDMI. What was wrong with MHL?
Many 3rd party apps I've installed that I know support multi-window don't show up as an option to use them in multi-window.
Need the ability to change default options for QuickMemo and Voice shortcut when you swipe up from Home button.
Capturing screenshot has no delete or edit in notification panel, Just a share option, better than nothing.
Whites don't look as bright as my GS4, there is even kind of a greyish/pinkish hue to them.
Black don't look black as they do on the Galaxy S4. They are gery instead of black.
Voicemail integration for google voice doesn't work seamlessly with built in voicemail. (see screenshot)
Reverse the order of recent apps (most recent should be at bottom right).
Last.fm isn't scrobbling when listening via Google Play music. Worked on my previous GS4. (edit: fixed by setting Google Play as default music player)
Date naming for the camera filenames is awful. "0911141023.jpg" should be something like 201409111023.jpg for better file sorting.
SwiftKey types but nothing shows up on some web page text boxes until I zoom in/out or scroll the screen around. Happened on my GS4 too but not nearly as often
More than one caller has complained it sounds like I'm cutting out or mumbling when talking.
DashClock takes two touches after returning to home screen to launch some of the associated extension apps (didn't happen on GS4).
Notification LED isn't nearly bright enough and doesn't flash often enough.
Not reading my SD card correctly and randomly deleted a bunch of files (managed to get it working for now despite having to recopy files from a backup, still problems with renaming/moving files)
H/W+ decoder in MX Player resulted in many scenes being very pixelated. Not the case for some video on my GS4.
In the battery stats, when you click on a listed program it doesn't give you the data usage in megabytes or gigabytes for that program. GS4 and stock Android does.
Clip tray doesn't work in large text input fields on webpages.
IR doesn't seem as powerful as GS4. It worked fine on a Sony TV on my GS4, it was finicky on the LG G3.
No ability to add more than 5 default room profiles in the QuickRemote. Lame.
Ten tries at knock code is way too many. Needs to lock you out after 3 or 4 attempts. Often doesn't even recognize a wrong knock code as incorrect.
WiFi is less than stellar (see screenshot)
Just my complaints. Absolutely no pro's are included. I really want to keep this phone because there is a lot about it that I like but much of the cons are making me rethin it. Why aren't their more companies offering good batteries, NFC/Qi backs, etc.?
On number 29, I believe after ten it wipes your phone not lock you out. So ten might be a good idea.
On your overall list I don't see anything that is a big deal except maybe the display seems to bother you quite a bit. All the rest of the stuff are just the usual annoyances. Might not see the exact same issues on another phone but there will be just as many.
That said if the display really bothers you a lot you should return it.
Oh yay, a "convince me" thread. Show some sack, and make your own decisions. If there are things you don't like, only you can decide if you can live with them. How is anyone supposed to convince you?
If you don't like stock screen brightness use Lux.
You can use any other Launcher that supports Gestures and set up Knock Off with that without any issues.
You can try changing your DPI to gain more screen real estate.
You can use Flex Multi Window app to add whatever apps you want to the Multi Window.
You can change your LED for notifications with various apps and mods.
My WiFi works far better than it did on my S4 so not sure why yours isn't?
I think most of your dislikes could be fixed without getting a new phone. Every phone will have it's list of " annoying things " I think the G3 is a great phone myself even without a custom recovery and Roms. Although I'm excited to get that going as well
- Tapatalked from the G3 -
LaTropa64 said:
Everything I like about the phone is irrelevant. I like it a lot but there are a lot of things I don't like Convince me why the things I hate about it don't matter much?
Screen auto brightness keeps it way too dim in a dark room.
Over sharpening text on certain webpages (Certain text on a light colored backgrounds looks awful until you zoom way in, basically unuseable sites).
On screen buttons mean less screen real estate (screenshot).
Need the ability to hide home row buttons on ALL screens (system apps too).
Knock off doesn't work on Google Now Launcher. (thanks to nfuNk user I discovered this still works if you double-tap the notifications bar, but not a real solution.)
Google Play Services using tons of battery life (no longer the case after first day... problem solved because LG appears to fake battery usage).
Way too much space used by toggles and sliders in notifications drop down. Killing volume slider was a must just to make it usable for other notifications.
Charging port is hard to plug into even with included cable and feels like it's going to bust sometimes. You have to slide in from the top. Very un-inotive.
My MHL adapter won't plug in at all and I found out it's because LG uses Slimport to do HDMI. What was wrong with MHL?
Many 3rd party apps I've installed that I know support multi-window don't show up as an option to use them in multi-window.
Need the ability to change default options for QuickMemo and Voice shortcut when you swipe up from Home button.
Capturing screenshot has no delete or edit in notification panel, Just a share option, better than nothing.
Whites don't look as bright as my GS4, there is even kind of a greyish/pinkish hue to them.
Black don't look black as they do on the Galaxy S4. They are gery instead of black.
Voicemail integration for google voice doesn't work seamlessly with built in voicemail. (see screenshot)
Reverse the order of recent apps (most recent should be at bottom right).
Last.fm isn't scrobbling when listening via Google Play music. Worked on my previous GS4. (edit: fixed by setting Google Play as default music player)
Date naming for the camera filenames is awful. "0911141023.jpg" should be something like 201409111023.jpg for better file sorting.
SwiftKey types but nothing shows up on some web page text boxes until I zoom in/out or scroll the screen around. Happened on my GS4 too but not nearly as often
More than one caller has complained it sounds like I'm cutting out or mumbling when talking.
DashClock takes two touches after returning to home screen to launch some of the associated extension apps (didn't happen on GS4).
Notification LED isn't nearly bright enough and doesn't flash often enough.
Not reading my SD card correctly and randomly deleted a bunch of files (managed to get it working for now despite having to recopy files from a backup, still problems with renaming/moving files)
H/W+ decoder in MX Player resulted in many scenes being very pixelated. Not the case for some video on my GS4.
In the battery stats, when you click on a listed program it doesn't give you the data usage in megabytes or gigabytes for that program. GS4 and stock Android does.
Clip tray doesn't work in large text input fields on webpages.
IR doesn't seem as powerful as GS4. It worked fine on a Sony TV on my GS4, it was finicky on the LG G3.
No ability to add more than 5 default room profiles in the QuickRemote. Lame.
Ten tries at knock code is way too many. Needs to lock you out after 3 or 4 attempts. Often doesn't even recognize a wrong knock code as incorrect.
WiFi is less than stellar (see screenshot)
Just my complaints. Absolutely no pro's are included. I really want to keep this phone because there is a lot about it that I like but much of the cons are making me rethin it. Why aren't their more companies offering good batteries, NFC/Qi backs, etc.?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've got until next Thursday to return mine. All of my problems deal in the LGDroid software. If the phone's bootloader is unlocked I will be happier than a hound dog eating steak.
There's an app for that Lux
I haven't noticed this.
I can't live without onscreen nav buttons. There's an app for that: Ultimate Dynamic Navbar
^^^^
Root and install XPosed. You can turn screen off with 2 taps to notification bar (top of screen).
May have been caused by installing all your apps.
I agree. I disabled the volume and brightness slider. I like the AOSP experience here.
Me too. And I have about 3 USB cables that won't charge the phone.
No experience here
There's an app for that, or root and modify a system file to fix.
I agree. You can root and install XPosed framework with G3 app to modify those shortcuts.
Isn't there only the share option in AOSP?
No experience here
No experience here
It worked for me, but after the Hangouts update I look at voicemail in Hangouts.
Yup.
No experience here
Yup. I've switched to Google Camera for my picture taking.
No experience here
No problems here.
No experience here
Yup. There's an app for that: Light Manager
No problems here.
No experience here
That would be nice.
I hate the clip tray.
IR is not powerful. I have to point my phone directly at the devices' sensor I want to control.
Lame.
Me, my phone has no lock screen security
Works for me.
spotmark said:
Oh yay, a "convince me" thread. Show some sack, and make your own decisions. If there are things you don't like, only you can decide if you can live with them. How is anyone supposed to convince you?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just because there are many things I don't like about the phone doesn't mean I won't keep it.
I'll buy it for a dollar.
Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
LaTropa64 said:
Just because there are many things I don't like about the phone doesn't mean I won't keep it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't say you weren't going to keep it. I simply stated that you're the one who has to live with or without it, so how is anyone supposed to convince you, one way, or the other?
spotmark said:
I didn't say you weren't going to keep it. I simply stated that you're the one who has to live with/without it, so how is anyone supposed to convince you, one way, or the other?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fair enough. But I'm use to having spare batteries that are as good as the original for $26 and come with a travel size wall charger. I don't think I'm going to get that with the G3.
LaTropa64 said:
Fair enough. But I'm use to having spare batteries that are as goid as the original for $26 and come with a travel size wall chalger. I don't think I'm going to get that with the G3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On Amazon now you can get an OEM Battery for $30 or you can get the Caseology or Trendon 2 Battery + AC/USB Charger for about $30 as well.
Those ones people are saying are about 90% of what the OEM one is I guess.
- Tapatalked from the G3 -
Mistertac said:
On Amazon now you can get an OEM Battery for $30 or you can get the Caseology or Trendon 2 Battery + AC/USB Charger for about $30 as well.
Those ones people are saying are about 90% of what the OEM one is I guess.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Links please? All the batteries I see on Amazon that have supposed good reviews are stuffed with fake reviews that turned out to be junk when I researched them elsewhere.
I know a lot of Anker batteries aren't all that great but their warranty is fantastic and I have first hand experience with that. It's the reason I have 3 reasonably well working batteries and two compact wall chargers that work more than well enough for traveling for a measly $26 for my GS4. That option doesn't even exist for the G3.
LaTropa64 said:
Links please? All the batteries I see on Amazon that have supposed good reviews are stuffed with fake reviews that turned out to be junk when I researched them elsewhere.
I know a lot of Anker batteries aren't all that great but their warranty is fantastic and I have first hand experience with that. It's the reason I have 3 reasonably well working batteries and two compact wall chargers that work more than well enough for traveling for a measly $26 for my GS4. That option doesn't even exist for the G3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well a friend of mine has the Caseology ones that he ordered right from Amazon. I'll look for the link but it's the ones with 2 Batteries and a Charger.
And I've spoken to a few here on XDA that got the OEM LG Battery off there as well and they've said that Battery is just the same same as the one that came with the phone, even though the writing on the Battery differs a little from the stock one... Same Battery and it's made in LG factory I guess.
I'm with you though.. I miss having my Anker Battery I had for my S4. That Battery was awesome.
LG and the other companies haven't made it easy to get a good spare at all.
- Tapatalked from the G3 -
I got a trendon battery for 15 works just as good as LG battery.
---------- Post added at 10:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:07 PM ----------
mayfield103 said:
I got a trendon battery for 15 works just as good as LG battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And with root you can use xposed gel settings module to fix the knock on issue an the g3 tweaks module to fix every other thing I missed from my nexus 5 I got tired of reading after the first few issues but for me this is an awesome phone an I'm keeping it at least till the next nexus comes out
Ooops
mayfield103 said:
Ooops
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Love the huge screen an the camera is true delight to use
Thanks everyone for all the tips on various apps and ways to fix some of the things that are bothering me. If I keep this phone (and I probably will) I'll look into rooting so that i can do a lot of the xposed stuff.
Root it and just about all your complaining will go away even the on screen buttons
on #1: maybe you are wrong about what is way too dim. when you are in a dark environment with the fone beeing pretty much the only light source you should keep it as dim as possible. give your eyes like half a minute to adapt to it. otherwise you possibly damage the low light reception of your eyes in the long run.
You already made your choice since you list 30 problems.
Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk
d0n s4sh said:
on #1: maybe you are wrong about what is way too dim. when you are in a dark environment with the fone beeing pretty much the only light source you should keep it as dim as possible. give your eyes like half a minute to adapt to it. otherwise you possibly damage the low light reception of your eyes in the long run.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That might be true. Maybe my old phone was just way too bright and needlessly killing battery since I can see this one just fine. It's just a shock and something I noticed right away.
ericzhf said:
You already made your choice since you list 30 problems.
Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not at all. I only listed the negatives. There are plenty of positives about this phone and that's why I needed to point out everything I don't like about it to try and convince myself to save $599. I want to keep it, but not if there is something out there as compact with as big of a screen as this. I'm afraid I won't find it so I'll be "stuck" with this G3.
I'm test driving a iPhone through T-Mobile right now and I absolutely hate everything about it except the fingerprint scanner. It's amazing. I hope LG can copy that tech into the G4 as a back button. It's even better than knock code IMO.
OK. So I'm sure as this tab gets out there more and more, there will be rumblings and grumblings with this generally awesome device. I've had mine (SHT-AL09) for three weeks here in the U.S. and while overall I am very happy, nothing is above some criticism and there are some things I could use some help with.
I've already mentioned in another thread having issues with the position of the volume rocker and power button as well as the overall shape. This device is not boxxy like the X2 I'm replacing and it takes some getting used to.
With this, I am deathly afraid of dropping it because of the shape. I did buy a folio wallet; but ultimately, I want a semi stiff gel case to absorb some shock. I have ordered one from China; but it looks like it could take up to 6 weeks to get it here in the US. So, I can use any advice or links for a gel case for this tab in the US. Also any recommendations for a quality gel case is likewise desired.
Secondly, this tab annoyingly begins playing music ANY TIME it connects to a blue tooth device (not sure if this is Huawei or Android.) This is real annoying when I get into my car first thing in the morning and I am met with Ronnie James Dio blaring at me before I've had my coffee. Anyone know how I can stop this from happening? My sanity demands it (BTW, deleting RJD from my library is not an option.)
Otherwise, I'm loving this tab and totally psyched to have a giant screen with LTE capability and a dialer!! Hopefully, this will set a trend and show the world we are a market best not ignored.
I had been having trouble getting Aquamail to activate the LED indicator on new messages. Supposedly, Huawei is known to make it hard for non-stock apps to activate the LED. However, in this case I eventually realized that the issue was that the LED didn't support the light blue color that was set by default in Aquamail. I changed it to red and new e-mails now trigger the LED.
I have noticed that when I adjust screen brightness via a 3rd party app - i.e. HD Widgets or Setting Profiles Lite - the screen brightness reverts to something different after I turn the screen off and back on again. This might not turn out to be an annoyance, as I kind of like the way auto brightness works on this device.
Is this thing supposed to be VOLTE capable? If so, I imagine it can be enabled via the build.prop file. I don't get VOLTE, nothing I care about too much but it would be nice.
I'd love to be able to customize the appearance/structure of the notification bar and quick settings. I used 'Color Status Bar' for this on my Sony Z3TC and it worked really well. It doesn't seem to work with Oreo.
What opens up automatically to play music when you connect a bluetooth device? That has gotta be an easy problem to solve. Also, I think it has to do with your car stereo more than anything else.
Hey, it's the stock music player. I tried changing the default music player but the stock one still starts playing every time I connect to my car radio. I heard there is a third party app to address this but I'd prefer to stay within the stock system if possible.
What I really find annoying is the bug with keyboard attached: Brightness Controll pops up randomly, interrupting my typing ... really annoying ...
(M5 Pro, Germany)
There are some differences between emui 8 on the M5 and emui 8 on the Mate SE. Didn't expect that. Not pleased about it, as they are things that get used frequently. An AOSP rom would change that of course.
I didn't find the sharp edges very comfortable when typing. Found a soft tpu case that makes things a lot better. Not a fan that the main camera sticks out a bit which seems like it would get damaged when putting the tablet down on a hard surface. Again, the case helped with that.
Didn't like that the navbar was eating up screen space but found an option to use the finger print scanner as the nav bar, which I prefer after getting used to it.
Overall I'm enjoying the tablet, love the display.
Okay, since we're airing grievances
I think the design of their hardware for phones is awesome, works perfectly. I don't think the same design translates to tablets. Tablets are held and used differently than phones, thus need an appropriate sized bezel, weight etc.
Just my .02
AsItLies said:
Okay, since we're airing grievances
I think the design of their hardware for phones is awesome, works perfectly. I don't think the same design translates to tablets. Tablets are held and used differently than phones, thus need an appropriate sized bezel, weight etc.
Just my .02
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I generally agree - but really the only thing I would change on the 8.4 version is the placement of the fingerprint sensor, which is too easy to press on accident when holding the tablet in landscape orientation and typing or what not. It should be nearly to the far right of the tab's bottom area, not dead center.
And really, this would be obvious to any ux designer testing the product, the problem is there is too much emphasis on blindly copying Apple and Samsung. Apple is a cult and Samsung makes extremely high quality hardware that isn't always user friendly.
My two issues right now is that 3rd Party Music apps don't show the album cover and stuff on the lockscreen. And that my device vibrates like twice after rebooting it.
Couldn't find a workaround so far
Here's a minor annoyance - try sending a text message to a number without typing a '1' before the number...you'll get an error message: '(555) 555-5555' is not a valid recipient.' Instead, you have to type out 1-555-555-5555.
Just checkng in. Brought this up when I started the thread, but has anyone found a way to stop the stock music player from starting up every time the tab is connected to any bluetooth audio device?
steveyal said:
Just checkng in. Brought this up when I started the thread, but has anyone found a way to stop the stock music player from starting up every time the tab is connected to any bluetooth audio device?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Music doesn't start playing automatically for me when I connect bluetooth headphones. Maybe it has to do with my config.
Here are some threads that might help you:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/help/bt-auto-plays-music-t3700769
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/help/disable-stock-music-player-stop-auto-t3718770
No updates since March on my M5 8.4" Uk wifi?? WTF Huawei, you never change
@kedge probaly you would like to have a look at HFF, there are several new updates available. Either do a manual update using HFF or wait another few days until the update arrives via OTA.
Only update there seems since the one I have is 151 but not approved.
Still really not a good sign not having monthly security updates.
kedge said:
Only update there seems since the one I have is 151 but not approved.
Still really not a good sign not having monthly security updates.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now it seems that 151 is approved... Then it is probably coming
Inviato dal mio CMR-AL09 utilizzando Tapatalk
Anyone got any opinions on the screen/ratio for reading pdfs and web browsing? I'm on the fence about getting one of these.
I have firmware version .122 i found on FF that there is .123 available and approved for install so i use vpn to force update but during install it fails at few percent that it failed to verify. What to do?
Thanks
Also does the storage option for SD install of apps do something?
Still not able to figure out how to stop the damned music app from blaring every time I connect via bluetooth to my car stereo. I'm thinking the problem may be at the car stereo end as others are not having this issue. My latest nuisance is constantly turning on the screen accidentally. Wondering if there is any way to customize the screen wake up options. Maybe changing the behavior of the front facing button or something else. I was also having problems with applications shutting down mid text while using a third party keyboard. (Swype.) I finally had to delete the keyboard and go back to stock.
So for me the screen density was driving me nuts. Everything was way bigger than my previous tablet, even after setting the view mode to "small".
I fixed this by going into developer options and setting the smallest width to 750. More fits on the screen now. Much better.