Hey there, I've recently rooted my phone, and want to test various kernels, and possibly even ROMs, what can I use to test them?
Antutu Benchmark, Quadrant is out-dated
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The only real test is real world use. Scores can be faked by rom edits but don't do anything for real performance at all.
agreed with zelendel. what matters is the stability and the actual smoothness of transitions/animations. i would prefer a rom that can get 1000 on quadrant that is super smooth than one with 3500 that doesn't feel snappy at all.
Antutu Benchmark is the most used now but as said above a benchmark is not something to reveal the real "feeling" of your phone.
Of course using a benchmark you'll see different scores among your different roms and versions... and sometimes it will let you feel better or... worse
Thanks guys.
Yes, I know that sometimes it will actually be different from the scores and feel better with a ROM that has scores that are a bit lower, but still I'd like to have some kind of measurement.
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I regularly flash new roms to see what's around but I'm curious about how accurate quadrant scores for each are? Some roms seem faster but get lower quadrant scores than others that feel slow? If quadrant's no good, what's a good ap for testing speeds of different roms?
general use is the best test
No.
If you really have to rely on benchmarks, AnTuTu seems to be better.
No, you can easily cheat to get an amazing score with quadrant. Even more proof is the fact that my captivate with a score of 1600 will run as smooth as my sgs 2.
Here is my issue, i decided to randomly run quadrant and found out i had bad results.
Around 3000, i had very low memory and i/o scores, memory being 2000 and i/o around 5000. I then flashed speedmod kernel and got even lower results, 2811 quadrant and 1500 memory, which is far from the default expected values. This happened in GB whith checrom V6 and Siyah Kerner, CM9 and SlimICS with both speedmod and fluxx kernel.
Antutu scores are lower then 6000 ranging from 4900 with SlimICS 5400 with GB and 5300 with CM9, i got back to Slim and cleared cache and got 5900, but quandrant still was performing poorly
You shouldn't rely on quadrant scores to decide whether the ROM is good or not, you should make that judgement for yourself. Sometimes, developers of ROMs make tweaks to purposely increase the quadrant scores.
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You shouldn't rely on quadrant scores to decide whether the ROM is good or not, you should make that judgement for yourself. Sometimes, developers of ROMs make tweaks to purposely increase the quadrant scores.
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I was just trying to see if there was something wrong with my phone. Not that i would keep the highest numbered ROM. That's why i got worried, the scores were low in almost all of them
Really want to test, flash stock rom and see the numbers flying
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you can try using different kernels with different cpu governors to see a difference in benchmarks.
Bench marking and quadrant scores are for *******.
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Basic problem is benchmarks vary from one run to another and are not reliable .
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Will a higher score change the way you use your phone?
What difference do the scores mean? Does it make your phone unuseable when you get a lower score? What answers are you hoping to get?
Dont use benchmarks....they arent needed, we already know our phone is fast...just use the phone and enjoy it
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Bench marking and quadrant scores are for *******.
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lmao
Its all relative to the rom you're using. CM9 I found scored lower on benchmarks, but on real life usage people report better performance
CM7 scored higher for me then stock based GB roms, quite comfortably. So that was the other way round.
However, WanamLite ICS which im using now scores between 6200 and 6300 for me, highest being 6330.
Again its all very relative to the rom you're using. If you're really that bothered flash a stock based ICS rom, run some benchmarks, see the higher values, get content, then either stick or go back to CM based roms with whatever wisdom you've aquired!
By the way all the above was using Antutu.
First off, let me say that this is more a question out of curiosity so I can learn more about the android system then real concern.
That having been said, I have noticed that AOSP roms consistently score lower on benchmark software (Antutu to be exact) then Sense based roms, even though its immediately obvious that the AOSP roms are faster in the "real world". I have read on another phone's forum that it was OpenGL based for that phone, is it the same thing for our Rezounds, or are there other factors at work?
I do realize that benchmark scores are not the end all for performance representation, however the fact remains that there has to be something that is bringing down the AOSP score, hence why this is a question of curiosity .
That is an observation I have not made. The scores are pretty much the same for me. Just ran a 6336 on Antutu. Without overclocking, I run about the same on Sense.
I just had to rerun to make sure I wasn't making an a** of myself....
Both runs were using Neo's roms (adrenaline and rage)
on adrenaline with dsb's kernel and no OC I got a 7125
on rage running the bundled kernel i got a 6577
I've never seen over 7k on this phone without some heavy overclocking. What version of dsb's kernel are you using? A lot of them don't hold stable clocks. Try a benchmark with the stock kernel. It's a much more fair test since the AOSP is basically stock.
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I was running his 2.01 kernel with 192 min and 1.5 max using smartassv2 gov for the posted score.
Will have to get back to you on the stock kernel numbers as I am currently back on AOSP since I am playing around with themeing it, however for what it's worth this phone consistently (10-12 different benchmark runs) scored between 7000 and 7200 on the dsb kernel.
Yup I got over 8200 with my friends class 10 card in... With the standard one I get just under 7800 with OC and around 7200 without on DSBs kernel on 2 different roms...
Does anyone even use geekbench?
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First off, let me say that this is more a question out of curiosity so I can learn more about the android system then real concern.
That having been said, I have noticed that AOSP roms consistently score lower on benchmark software (Antutu to be exact) then Sense based roms, even though its immediately obvious that the AOSP roms are faster in the "real world". I have read on another phone's forum that it was OpenGL based for that phone, is it the same thing for our Rezounds, or are there other factors at work?
I do realize that benchmark scores are not the end all for performance representation, however the fact remains that there has to be something that is bringing down the AOSP score, hence why this is a question of curiosity .
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Well Rezound is built for sense so you can expect it to be, but once we get a working OC kernel you will see asop jump up in benchmarks
In Antutu, I get around 6500 with "stock" based Sense 3.6 roms. Then Sense 4 came out and the Antutu scores are 1000 higher, my top was 7700. I don't know why Sense 4 runs so much faster, especially since it was ported to our phone. AOSP I think scores were in between, 7000 range? But I'm not certain. Anyway Sense 4 is blisteringly fast, Sense 3.6 is garbage, and AOSP roms are the fastest going between apps/launcher. Once AOSP gets more solid, I will probably switch full time, but ViperREZ Sense 4 has sooooooo many features (and speed) it is hard to put down.
i am a bit of a benchmark nerd, and i was wondering what would be the best combination of rom/kernel overclock settings etc... to get the best benchmark scores i can get on our device?
Flash them. Use them. Judge for yourself. Benchmarks are useless and are only really for people who wanna compare how big their balls are. I've run some ROMS that scored low bench marks but ran really smooth.
Like Phalanx said, benchmarks are utterly useless. I've ran hd games at a smoother frame rate on lower-score benchmarked roms than on ridiculously high-scored roms.
I could make you a rom that scored over 9000 in benchmark but runs slow and crappy. As stated above benchmarks mean next to nothing.
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Hey guys, i was wondering if anyone of you knows why cm10 has lower 3D performance then cm10 (measured by quadrant, and I had some laggy experience with certain games, but nenamark2 scores are the same). I noticed that some games works better on cm9. I'm not a phone gaming fan, I asked this question just for satisfying my curiosity I had several different devices with cm9/cm10 support, and that's why I noticed this ˝misbehavior˝ hope you can give me some answer.. Thanks in advance
Am not a gamer either but haven't seen any noticeable difference between the two but then again that could be because i play less resource hungry games . Don't know if vsync caps in cm10 are affecting games
In fakt, Benchmark give a lower Score for CM10 than 9. But(!) in practice CM10 is really much smoother and better than 9. Its actually my experience with that. But i think, it's on the huge spectrum of phones on every phone some other thing
from my experience, cm10 is better..
dont trust too much with benchmark tools, you know better about your phone
I believe its all up to the devs who build em...I guess...all I do know is I am running slimbean over cm10 and it smokes it...never gamed on my phone better...
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