screen looks overexposed - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

So I've got my prime today, I'm verry happy about the tablet.
There's just one problem that I've got with it.
The screen looks overexposed. The whites looks way brighter than I feel it should be.
And the colors are also a lot lighter than they are on my Desire.
(I've tested it with this app).
Is this common for a ips plus display or is it a software / hardware problem?
EDIT: Screen settings are IPS+ off at +-20%.

Share some settings!
Is that with the IPS+ on? What's the backlight at?
Granted that pic does show crappy blacklevel, but you're probably the first to biatch about the screen.

curreyr said:
Share some settings!
Is that with the IPS+ on? What's the backlight at?
Granted that pic does show crappy blacklevel, but you're probably the first to biatch about the screen.
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Yea sorry about not mentioning the settings.
It's IPS+ off at +- 20%
Maybe I'm just spoiled by the amoled of my desire. But when I've got an 'legacy' app that has a pup up that turns the rest of the screen dark. It seems to me that that's the way the screen should always be.

I agree it is a bit overexposed over 50% brightness and if the IPS+ is on. Really like it when using it outdoors! Not many tablets are even useable outside......

Danny80y said:
I agree it is a bit overexposed over 50% brightness and if the IPS+ is on. Really like it when using it outdoors! Not many tablets are even useable outside......
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I agree it's awesome outside, but what does it mater if it looks weired inside..

I have a bit different overexposure problem.
I noticed that white becomes overexposed after watching some sort of video. For example when I watch something and then hit home button the white label texts below icons are harder to read and icons look a bit too pale. Then in about 20 seconds it gradually becomes normal. I'm not sure if it was like that right from the start, most likely no (I own it about 10 days).
It happens for Default Player, DICE Player, MX Video Player, ZiXi Player, YouTube app. Didn't happen for YouTube videos played full screen in browser.
Any idea what is happening?
I'll try to make some pictures tomorrow.

I think its because of that Didim technology which saves battery by adjusting contrast and brightness. http://phandroid.com/2011/11/18/nvi...logy-didim-reduces-display-power-consumption/ and its so f/in annoying while watching movies.
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MirQoo said:
I think its because of that Didim technology which saves battery by adjusting contrast and brightness. http://phandroid.com/2011/11/18/nvi...logy-didim-reduces-display-power-consumption/ and its so f/in annoying while watching movies.
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This is indeed the culprit in my experience, and it's easily resolvable: don't use Power Saving mode!
When Power Saving mode is enabled, some parts of the interface / apps seem over-exposed, also text looks a little bit more faded somehow. After switching to Balanced or Performance mode, that's all gone.

Sjaakbanaan said:
This is indeed the culprit in my experience, and it's easily resolvable: don't use Power Saving mode!
When Power Saving mode is enabled, some parts of the interface / apps seem over-exposed, also text looks a little bit more faded somehow. After switching to Balanced or Performance mode, that's all gone.
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MirQoo said:
I think its because of that Didim technology which saves battery by adjusting contrast and brightness.
and its so f/in annoying while watching movies.
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Thanks! Yes, I guess that's because of that DIDIM technology. But it happens also in balanced mode, only in performance mode I have no overexposure.

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Grainy video playback

I don't watch Netflix on my phones that much, but i was bored today on lunch and decided to watch a Doctor Who episode. I noticed that the video playback was very dark and grainy (brightness all the way up). I'm sure others have noticed this as well but i couldn't find any posts about it. I know that the phone is capable of 1080p playback so i fired up an HQ youtube video and it looked anything but high quality. The pentile display could be the culprit in this case, but it seems like it would be the gpu because it still seems like the resolution is low. Thoughts? Comments?
Hd on my phone looks great. I won't deny the pentile display leaves a lot to be desired, but not on pictures and videos. At least for me.
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The graniness during playback is a negative characteristic of the pentile display that some people notice and others don't. The graniness is greatly reduced (even eliminated) when you turn the brightness down. I would recommend turning the brightness down to the lowest setting. The photon's display is so bright that you will probably never need to turn it up.
I noticed the dark grainy too, I thought it was just the program I was watching.
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The graniness during playback is a negative characteristic of the pentile display that some people notice and others don't. The graniness is greatly reduced (even eliminated) when you turn the brightness down. I would recommend turning the brightness down to the lowest setting. The photon's display is so bright that you will probably never need to turn it up.
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I've tried that and the quality was a bit better, however the contrast ratio on this phone is so great that the darks are dark as hell. I don't notice the pentile "screen door effect" unless i am looking for it, or if it catches my eye for a split second. Oh well, i still love the phone, i guess the Iphone's retina display spoiled me.
I dont think its the videos or the software playing the video. Its the Display Technology Moto chose to run with. Ive been on 30+ android / windows mobile / ios phones and this phone has the worse Display I have ever seen.
Its great that the display is in QHD res but the colors are awful on this phone. Coming from Evo 3D / Nexus 4G those 2 phones alone have bright colors. Especially the Nexus since it uses a AMOLED screen.
The photon is a GREAT phone but the display is just crazy bad. All my pictures / videos don't have enough color to them which then give it that grainy look. Shouldn't have to turn brightness down but even while doing that, there is still grainy picture.
Ima hold on to the photon for a lil while longer and then might jump to GSII.
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I dont think its the videos or the software playing the video. Its the Display Technology Moto chose to run with. Ive been on 30+ android / windows mobile / ios phones and this phone has the worse Display I have ever seen.
Its great that the display is in QHD res but the colors are awful on this phone. Coming from Evo 3D / Nexus 4G those 2 phones alone have bright colors. Especially the Nexus since it uses a AMOLED screen.
The photon is a GREAT phone but the display is just crazy bad. All my pictures / videos don't have enough color to them which then give it that grainy look. Shouldn't have to turn brightness down but even while doing that, there is still grainy picture.
Ima hold on to the photon for a lil while longer and then might jump to GSII.
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Oh boy, brace yourself for the wrath that will ensue... Let me run for cover.
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Oh boy, i think i can smell whats coming... sorry for starting Display War II.
The blacks being to dark is black crush. This can be fixed with software. Hopefully something like voodoo will come out to allow us to make these changes.
Also note that display also has white sub pixels in addition to RGB which is supposed to increase the perception of brightness without being brighter. At least that is what i understood.
Last note when watching netflix, 4g and wifi seem best. Not sure if the limited 3g bandwith could be lacking the addition black information making the blacks crush.
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The blacks being to dark is black crush. This can be fixed with software. Hopefully something like voodoo will come out to allow us to make these changes.
Also note that display also has white sub pixels in addition to RGB which is supposed to increase the perception of brightness without being brighter. At least that is what i understood.
Last note when watching netflix, 4g and wifi seem best. Not sure if the limited 3g bandwith could be lacking the addition black information making the blacks crush.
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Black Crush. That is exactly what it is. Everything else in this phone is near perfect. GPS locks in seconds. Speaker for music is loud and clear. Camera takes beautiful pictures. The camcorder is beautiful also at 720p 30 frames per sec. Phone is beast. Only draw back i see is the display BUT phone is nice and bright while outside in direct sunlight. As for the display i guess thats when DLNA and Micro HDMI come in LOLOL.

New update and poor image quality.

Just wondering if anyone else noticed yet...
Before the new update you could switch power modes and notice a major decrease in image quality in power savings mode, then notice it get a lot better once switched to balance mode or normal...
Well with the new update it seems to be stuck in the poor image quality mode that it gave before while in power savings mode. Also switching modes has no effect at all on image quality.
You can only get good colors now with super IPS mode turned on.
Maybe it is just your TFP, I had no such issue before or after the update.
Maybe you just didnt notice... Before the update it clearly adjusted brightness and contrast of the screen when in power saving mode...
It no longer does this and seems to be stuck with low contrast and washed out colors. I had no problems before the update because I would use it on balanced mode which let the colors out of the bag. But now with the new update every mode looks washed out.
I noticed that too. I don't know if it is the lower or higher quality, but it doesn't matter that much. All I care about is this stupid dead/stuck pixel.
I think it did adjust brightness but I am not sure it adjusted "quality". And not everyone is going to notice or see a difference because if some people always use auto-brightness then I don't think their screens every changed when they switched power modes (I don't recall my friend's changing).
So while I do think you might be correct that the new update has stopped the screen from changing brightness when you switch between power modes, I am not at all sure about the quality.
I wonder if we can assign screen brightness and quality to the power settings somewhere now? (or could before?)
I remember hearing months ago that Nvidia had this new idea to save battery life with the whole dynamic contrast and brightness thing.
But after using the device as an ereader for a while, the constant flickering was more than I could bare.
I'm glad its gone, now I can read in peace. I didn't notice any change in quality. Color temp perhaps...
No this is not what im talking about, It would change the image quality... not just the brightness...
Making images more detailed and colors more vivid. But its gone now, strange and kinda of sucky...
Any TFP users that knows what im talking about please chime in.
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It seems that the tegra 3 auto image quality is working (not in the modes but according to what your viewing) but I really wish they would just take it out all together..
If you have a dark colored wallpaper your colors will seem washed out because its adjusting the brightness, contrast and colors to be weaker.
If you have a white bright wallpaper your colors will be more vivid, sharper and screen brighter...
This is why the homescreen may appear washed out to some, and others dont see it. It all depends on what colors your viewing.
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Just wondering if anyone else noticed yet...
Before the new update you could switch power modes and notice a major decrease in image quality in power savings mode, then notice it get a lot better once switched to balance mode or normal...
Well with the new update it seems to be stuck in the poor image quality mode that it gave before while in power savings mode. Also switching modes has no effect at all on image quality.
You can only get good colors now with super IPS mode turned on.
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I see what you mean.i just updated for the very first time.Its not poor image quality but when i hit my buttons it doesn't do anything screen stays the same.
Are you able to compare it with another device? Try to have the same icon on your home screen on each device. For me the TFP is noticeable different (even with a white wallpaper). I compared opera,market and google music icons, they seem to have less color and appear washed out on the TFP.
I am glad you noticed what I am talking about with the modes.
Screen brightness adgusts on mine even with auto brightness on which is expected to help battery life, but I see no change in quality of images on mine.
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If you didnt notice the modes adjusting this (colors and brightness) before then you may not know what I am talking about. Yes even with auto-brightness off it will adjust brightness but this is not what I am talking about.
Before the update it most defiantly changed the brightness and image quality in low power mode. But not it does not and appears to be stuck in bad image quality mode, If you did not notice this before the update then you wont be able to notice the poor image quality unless you compare it to another android device.
Notice how the colors are off and appear washed out in comparison.
Not sure if I agree. I spent quite a bit of time examining the picture quality prior to the update. I do not see any significant difference in picture quality now.
I have a pretty good eye for picture quality (I was part of a team who set the picture quality for KURO televisions).
I am very pleased with the picture performance of the Prime. What I would love to see is local dimming......
Walkamo
Don't notice a difference. Seems about the same quality to me.
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jzen said:
No this is not what im talking about, It would change the image quality... not just the brightness...
Making images more detailed and colors more vivid. But its gone now, strange and kinda of sucky...
Any TFP users that knows what im talking about please chime in.
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It seems that the tegra 3 auto image quality is working (not in the modes but according to what your viewing) but I really wish they would just take it out all together..
If you have a dark colored wallpaper your colors will seem washed out because its adjusting the brightness, contrast and colors to be weaker.
If you have a white bright wallpaper your colors will be more vivid, sharper and screen brighter...
This is why the homescreen may appear washed out to some, and others dont see it. It all depends on what colors your viewing.
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I see what you mean.i just updated for the very first time.Its not poor image quality but when i hit my buttons it doesn't do anything screen stays the same.
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I think he is finally on to something for once..lol. He is correct in the sense that the major change in contrast from balanced or normal mode to power savings is not apparent anymore. I described this change in contrast and detail in the first week Prime was received. Its not in permanent poor image quality though or power savings look. Before you could hit power savings mode and instantly see the screen contrast change, it wouldn't look as detailed. at first it would look like the brightness dropped a lil but its actually the contrast being adjusted. the icons would have a cartoonish look to them. then once you press balanced or normal mode it would instant switch back. NOW, there seems to be no change at all. like its stuck in either balanced or normal mode color scheme. I just switched various wallpapers, light and dark and colorful ones. its all the same. But there is no loss in quality though of pictures. we just don't see the change anymore immediately. of course when hitting super ips+ mode the colors and screen brightness gonna jump up. it's from the dramatic increase in screen brightness. which for me is too bright, especially at night time.
Good find though Jzen. I didn't notice until you made this thread. as I never use powersavings mode. I only noticed the change in the beginning because it was so prevalant. now the switch isn't anymore. Maybe like he said Tegra3 is doing it all automatically. I can't get it to look like the powersavings mode look like before though. Display still looks as great as it did before. just now the contrast doesn't immediately drop when putting it in powersavings mode. it is seeming like battery life has increased even more though somehow. if this is related to situation mentioned, then its a good thing as there's no loss in quality or contrast. Super ips+ mode is a battery drainer though. keep switching it on and off and you'll see battery life drop in multiple numbers. not just gradually one by one. lol.
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jzen said:
If you didnt notice the modes adjusting this (colors and brightness) before then you may not know what I am talking about. Yes even with auto-brightness off it will adjust brightness but this is not what I am talking about.
Before the update it most defiantly changed the brightness and image quality in low power mode. But not it does not and appears to be stuck in bad image quality mode, If you did not notice this before the update then you wont be able to notice the poor image quality unless you compare it to another android device.
Notice how the colors are off and appear washed out in comparison.
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I would notice as I was the first one to mention the drop in contrast weeks ago in various threads and my Different Performance modes thread. it is not stuck in poor image quality mode. you just thinkn that because you don't see the immediate switch and drop in contrast when going into powersavibgs mode. cutting on super ips+ will look dramatic no matter what before or after update so that can't really been used. you are only partially correct in your find. and that is there is no drop on contrast anymore. To me it seems as if its stuck in the balanced or normal mode look from before. cause before when contrast dropped in powersavings, all the icons would look funny and catoonish looking. now it just looks normal no matter what mode you in or wall paper you using.
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Not sure if I agree. I spent quite a bit of time examining the picture quality prior to the update. I do not see any significant difference in picture quality now.
I have a pretty good eye for picture quality (I was part of a team who set the picture quality for KURO televisions).
I am very pleased with the picture performance of the Prime. What I would love to see is local dimming......
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The display and picture quality is still great.
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Don't notice a difference. Seems about the same quality to me.
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corrrect but if people never switched the modes before then it'll be hard for them to notice there is no longer a drop in contrast when going into powersavings mode. its all looks great now what mode you in. maybe it does it very slowly and gradually in powerssvings mode so the change won't be so noticeable like before. either way Best Display by far of any tablet.
This is definitely not true for me. It is correct that the switching feature is gone, but it is not stuck in low quality mode. my screen looks as awesome as before. maybe you were in powersaving mode before updating and this is another updater bug?
Yes even with auto-brightness off it will adjust brightness but this is not what I am talking about.
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Sorry if i jump in at this point with wrong subject, but - so this is a known bug on the prime? I already wondered about the automatically de- and reincreasing brightness while scrolling websites even if auto-brightness is turned off...
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Sorry if i jump in at this point with wrong subject, but - so this is a known bug on the prime? I already wondered about the automatically de- and reincreasing brightness while scrolling websites even if auto-brightness is turned off...
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it is not a bug it is a feature seriously this is really intended, but maybe a bit buggy...
I notice my sig's image looks very blurry in the browser on the Prime than from the browser on my desktop PC.
My PC res is 1920x1080, with the prime having a lower res shouldn't the sig look better only bigger?
I ran the firmware update almost immediately after using my prime for the first time and connecting to my wifi. Didn't even think to look at images through it yet.
OT: I thought the clouds on the background image move. Perhaps I have been wrong from loving all the videos of this online. Will there ever bee a desktop background to have such a feat?
Ok this is my post from few days. So am not crazy? You noticed the same thing?
got a question about the screen. Some times I can sense and see that despite of auto brightness off that the screen adjusts its brightness by itself. It is a little change but my sharp eyes can see this... Do you have a similar thing? it looks like prime adjust the contrast / brightness by it self even if autobrightness mode is off. it happenes while watching youtube, browsing www or playing. it happenes like this on all 3 performance modes but it is more aggresive on battery mode (power saving mode)
Do you notice the similar thing?
i just recieved another update for my prime. The "feature" of brightness instability while scolling seem to be fixed, but yes - after using the power save mode and changing the background image i noticed a really poor color/compression in all backgrounds i set, doesnt matter which one. Restart and changing the modes to high performance or balanced doesnt help, same with setting up a live wallpaper for a while..

PLS screen as compared to other IPS screens

With the significant drop of SuperAMOLED quality control or just plain bad luck on my end I've decided to call it quits and look at other screen technologies and suffice to say the rumored Tab 11.6 is peaking my interest and probably that device will come with PLS.
I've had a chance to compare the Tab10.1 and Ipad2 but I really didn't do so extensively, I was comparing the TF201 , Ipad2 and Tab7.7 and after a lot of testing I've concluded that SuperAMOLED only offers better blacks, the rest is just a subjective preference like color saturation, even viewing angles are superior on the TF201 and Ipad2.
My primary usage is video playback then web browsing, Im also particular with white tones across all brightness levels and with my current Tab7.7 the white tones at low brightness are just horrible compared to the TF201, Tab10.1 and Ipad2
Anyone with extended experience on the said devices can share their opinions between the PLS on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 vs the IPS on the Ipad2 or TF201?
BUMP for my post, how does the Tab 10.1's screen perform in terms of movie viewing?
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BUMP for my post, how does the Tab 10.1's screen perform in terms of movie viewing?
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Pretty good when the brightness is turned all the way up, This being on Dice Player @ 255/255, Better contrast and color, I think Bravia engine can be added to enhance the colors.
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Pretty good when the brightness is turned all the way up, This being on Dice Player @ 255/255, Better contrast and color, I think Bravia engine can be added to enhance the colors.
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about 95% of the time I use the device at the bed room, so 0-33% brightness might be up my alley. When you say better contrast and color is that in comparison to the Ipad2 screen ?
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about 95% of the time I use the device at the bed room, so 0-33% brightness might be up my alley. When you say better contrast and color is that in comparison to the Ipad2 screen ?
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I watch a lot of series and some movies on my Tab while in bed and imo it's pretty great (especially when they're 720p ). It's almost always at night so no problems with the sun shining on the screen though. With the sun shining directly on the screen, I doubt you could really enjoy any movie ...
I have my brightness set somewhere between 50-100/255 on Dice Player, depending on the movie and if I have any lights on in the room.
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I watch a lot of series and some movies on my Tab while in bed and imo it's pretty great (especially when they're 720p ). It's almost always at night so no problems with the sun shining on the screen though. With the sun shining directly on the screen, I doubt you could really enjoy any movie ...
I have my brightness set somewhere between 50-100/255 on Dice Player, depending on the movie and if I have any lights on in the room.
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Yeah around daytime it's best on 255 but around night time I keep it to 150 or such, any higher at night is like an alien abduction
Hmm on a superamoled screen i keep it at 46 only. But that doesnt really matter as long as the whites in web pages remain white unlile oled.
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Hmm on a superamoled screen i keep it at 46 only. But that doesnt really matter as long as the whites in web pages remain white unlile oled.
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I've been wondering the same too, On my desktop it shows XDA is creamish/pink but on the tablet it shows that xda is white o.o
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I've been wondering the same too, On my desktop it shows XDA is creamish/pink but on the tablet it shows that xda is white o.o
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Strange, it shows the same color for me both on computer and on the tablet. I *did* have the "white xda" problem in the past though, both on my desktop, laptop and tablet. Thought it had something to do with a faulty .css or something similar though, haven't seen it in a long while now.
What I mean is on low brightness levels the white tones on the SuperAMOLED screen becomes either grainy or may turn into yellowish,pinkish or blueish depending on the the screen you've got. Though movie quality is great I also noticed it makes an actual scene darker crushing detail.. Samsung tried to fix this with a different gamma profile on the Galaxy Note but it ends up giving blocky blacks.
I've come across a store demo unit and sadly I cant transfer over my media files, BT just takes to long and the Tab10.1 has no wifi direct.
Is backlight bleeding a common issue on the pls screen?
EarlZ said:
With the significant drop of SuperAMOLED quality control or just plain bad luck on my end I've decided to call it quits and look at other screen technologies and suffice to say the rumored Tab 11.6 is peaking my interest and probably that device will come with PLS.
I've had a chance to compare the Tab10.1 and Ipad2 but I really didn't do so extensively, I was comparing the TF201 , Ipad2 and Tab7.7 and after a lot of testing I've concluded that SuperAMOLED only offers better blacks, the rest is just a subjective preference like color saturation, even viewing angles are superior on the TF201 and Ipad2.
My primary usage is video playback then web browsing, Im also particular with white tones across all brightness levels and with my current Tab7.7 the white tones at low brightness are just horrible compared to the TF201, Tab10.1 and Ipad2
Anyone with extended experience on the said devices can share their opinions between the PLS on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 vs the IPS on the Ipad2 or TF201?
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PLS is plane line switching where as ips is in plane switching. The only difference between the Displays is the light thourough put is higher in Pls that ips hence the more vibrant colors and brighter backlight
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Any way to lower the contrast?

I love my new Amaze. As with any device,though, there are a few issues. One that's been nagging me is what I would describe as excessive contrast. In other words, at 50% brightness the dark areas of a video are so dark that it's impossible to make out any detail. Raising the brightness to 100% helps some, but its still hard to make out details and the whites become blindingly bright. That also causes a lot of battery drain. Is there any way to increase the detail of dark areas of the screen without dialing up supernova brightness?
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I love my new Amaze. As with any device,though, there are a few issues. One that's been nagging me is what I would describe as excessive contrast. In other words, at 50% brightness the dark areas of a video are so dark that it's impossible to make out any detail. Raising the brightness to 100% helps some, but its still hard to make out details and the whites become blindingly bright. That also causes a lot of battery drain. Is there any way to increase the detail of dark areas of the screen without dialing up supernova brightness?
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I tried to find an application that does this, but apparently, they don't have an application that can play a video and be able to change video settings such as contrast.
The only solution as of now might be processing your video before watching it. This would be ideal if you are putting a movie on the phone, but not so much if you are playing a video that you previously took.
I'm not sure of programs that can process the video, but I'm sure that a quick search on google should do it. Watch out though, as some programs will actually watermark the processed video and make it ugly.

[Q] Prime users : would you abandon Super IPS+ ? (pad 300)

Hi,
new to the forum, wondering to buy 300 (for gps w/o dongle) or prime (and can't decide !)
To prime users, I would like to know how you consider Super IPS + Mode, for outside (browsing especially) : gadget, usefull, essentiel ?
Do you use this mode every time outside or only in very bright conditions ?
I've found some videos on it but hard to see what it gives in real life.
Any commments appreciated ! Thanks.
Super IPS+
I use the Super IPS+ quite a lot. Anytime I have glare on my screen from Indoor lights or when Im sitting on my porch during daylight. It is bright enough also that I use it in the middle of the night to see the keys on the Docking Keyboard.
Super IPS+ is an amazing feature that I have come to love and would not get another tablet unless it has Super IPS.
I find it useful. I'm able to sit outside, with my sunglasses on in the sun, and read the screen clearly. I use to have problems doing the same with my Nook Color which was considered to have a decent screen for outdoor viewing. The difference when you turn the IPS+ mode on is very noticeable. If it's necessary for you to see it outdoors, then it's a worthwhile upgrade.
What applications/are you looking to get done with GPS? Just so we can assess what kind of GPS performance would be acceptable for your usage cases.
get the prime. read the thread in my signature called the positive transformer thread. super ips+ makes the screen and colors pop more. can be used indoors also.
I use the ISP + feature almost daily, whenever I'm outdoors.
Would I not consider any other tablet simply because it didn't have ISP+?
No. But it would certainly swing things in the favor of any tablet that did have that feature!
Hardly a "gimmick"...
super ips + is more than just a brighter screen compared to regular ips. super has higher contrast ratio. better color reproduction, blacks are blacker, whites are whiter..etc..colors more vibrant ans so on.
ips is good but super ips+ is a newer technology. before new ipad came out, prime was toted as having the best screen display of any tablet
Thats funny, some of the Devs working on the prime, have mentioned IPS+ is just the brightness turned all the way up (an exeptional bright screen yes), apparently the prime was artificially blocked from going to its brightest setting, and then slapped slapped with an 'IPS+ 'feature', which turns on its highest brightness setting.
This is what ive read some devs saying, im by no means an expert in the matter, so cant attain to its validity, but devs i tend to trust in these matters
Its a nice bright screen, no doubt, i guess we'll have to wait until the 300 comes out, to see whether its just as 'bright'
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Thats funny, some of the Devs working on the prime, have mentioned IPS+ is just the brightness turned all the way up (an exeptional bright screen yes), apparently the prime was artificially blocked from going to its brightest setting, and then slapped slapped with an 'IPS+ 'feature', which turns on its highest brightness setting.
This is what ive read some devs saying, im by no means an expert in the matter, so cant attain to its validity, but devs i tend to trust in these matters
Its a nice bright screen, no doubt, i guess we'll have to wait until the 300 comes out, to see whether its just as 'bright'
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They're obviously not drinking enough of the kool aid
Thank you all for your feedbacks !
demandarin said:
get the prime. ....
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I might, considering what you say on super IPS+, and I believe the screen quality is essential.
If anyone is interested in, I found some benchmarks on the french site "Les numériques" for the prime :
> Contrast 1224:1 for IPS and 1138:1 for Super IPS+
> Brithness 387 cd/m2 for IPS and 619 cd/m2 (!) for Super IPS+
banderos101 said:
... i guess we'll have to wait until the 300 comes out, to see whether its just as 'bright'
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I haven't thought 300's normal IPS could be different than Prime's one, so I might wait some tests indeed.
irishtexmex said:
What applications/are you looking to get done with GPS? Just so we can assess what kind of GPS performance would be acceptable for your usage cases.
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I would like to use GPS in car for some real-time traffic mapping based on floating car data and/or for (legal !) community speed camera alerts (like wikango, icoyote..). But actually I don't know if either is possible without 3G (I do not have a 3G smartphone so no tethering). So I might only dream ?

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