http://www.forbes.com/sites/elizabe...-its-bada-os-with-intel-backed-tizen-project/
PS: The King is dead. Long live the King.
WTF ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And i always wondered why is Wave 3 so different even in its core
Well the journey got to its end now....bada is Tizen....Samsung being just Samsung
Please rename this section to Tizen
We are stuck with RTOS based phone now that Samsung think it is low-end device
Sources of 2.0 will never get published
Best Regards
My question is will existing Bada users get pushed to the side or will Samsung ACTUALLY do something for us.And i will be pretty pissed if Samsung push us aside and tell us to f*** off.
so what will happen to Wave 1-2 users???
please anyone explain us.
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waveguru
Well if it's Open source why not...
But I think it's the dead of Bada.
Please Samsung, make your great phone and let other make OS.
It's hard to stay on Bada (middle end device, no open source, no update, no communication about samsung...) when we can easily got all that with Android
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Well the journey got to its end now....bada is Tizen....Samsung being just Samsung
Please rename this section to Tizen
We are stuck with RTOS based phone now that Samsung think it is low-end device
Sources of 2.0 will never get published
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Note that Samsung is emphasizing Tizen's backwards compatibility with existing Bada Apps, not compatibility with existing hardware. Samsung benefits Samsung by keeping their app count up. Samsung is not benefiting their existing customer base by giving them an OS upgrade path. As you said, this is Samsung being Samsung. This can also be seen by the title of the related Forbes article at the bottom of the page: Samsung Playing All Sides To Win. Reviewers were telling us the same thing when Samsung released Bada alongside Android.
Agree with above
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My opinion is we need to start port Tizen to the wave.
I don't think that it will kill Bada. For exemple Samsung seems to have still interest about it as they just have signed a contract with TomTom for a GPS app.
Also I read somewhere that some others manufacturer are taking part of the Tizen project. It would be a OS moreover like the Boot to Gecko project.
=> Every one want to get an mobile OS.
For me Bada is still alive although samsung seems to drown it.
@akuji_bwn : these pictures are not the right one. It is simply Bada 2.0 on the picture.
Here you have some :
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/01/08...nd-the-first-phone-will-be-the-samsung-i9500/
Appstore is powered by bada 2.0 since "1 month +"...
New devices like S8600, S7250 and S5380 are very young... 1 month +
So Samsung will push/support minimum there 3 new bada 2.0 devices 1 year...
Why should Samsung kill there 3 devices now?
I think bada 2.0 will have support to 2013 ...
So we can benefit 1 year with our S8500/S8530 and so on...
Best Regards
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I think bada 2.0 will have support to 2013 ...
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Yes I agree with you it will be supported to ,at least, 2013.
yes bada 2.0 will have support to 2013 but
Wave 3 will get bada 3.0 by the end of this year
bada 3.0 will be bada - Tizen merge OS so it will be open source
The idea is what will Samsung call bada 3.0....bada or Tizen or a very new name ?!.. Probably bada
Again no idea how long will it take from Samsung to merge and update but they are doing it while tweaking 2.0 to make it final
In my point of view 2.0 should be open sourced too to give the whole community a chance to make it better...but Samsung love the way it controls old Wave I/II users because the bought devices with low prices
I am supporting bada until 3.0 appears
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Given the tendency of Samsung to provide lack luster support, the touchwiz style interface of BADA and the general eco system I think I'll pass. probably along with most people.
I don't think they are ever going to opensource any SHP libraries, that platform has been made to be easily built as out-of-kernel, DLL libraries. So they will just opensource kernel, which is very linux-like and most of drivers and GUI will remain proprietary.
Not surprised to see Samsung revealing this. It's clear they have been playing all sides and what ends up happening alot of the time, is one or more sides get burned.
I'm not technical enough to know what Samsung would be meddling with Tizen as it seems so similar to Bada. Better to have just made Bada open source I had felt.
The biggest problem with Samsung is their inability to rollout anything in a timely fashion. There are whole countries still officially stuck on Bada 1.0. They didn't get Bada 1.2 and will have no chance of getting Bada 2.0. That assures a conclusion that all those people will get pissed off and head to another phone OS.
If Samsung were able to push out their updates worldwide at the same time, Bada right now would have been huge. At present it's just lost potential and this trickle of unofficial firmwares leaking out here and there. Plus having no US releases for the Waves has to go down as the stupidest move I've seen a big company make in recent times.
Plus having no US releases for the Waves...
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Why...
Since many years Samsung sells BREW handsets... in US area... 10 years nearly...
You know Qualcomm?
You know BREW?
You know powers of Operator in each country...
Best Regards
don't worry samsung is screwing all of existing customers for software updates.. android + bada ppl will go cry as there are no software updates for most of devices out in market.....
even if they make bada + tizen open source dev will have to work ass off as samsung might not release kernel sources of old devices...
and someone will have to create it from scratch which is difficult task
its about own personal choice but when i look at meego and tizen , MEEGO lookes much better. i mean samaung may screw with the MEEGO aka tizen.
App compatibility
Its funny that they claim app compatibility when they cant even make some popular bada 1.2 apps work with bada 2.
(example shrek kart, shrek's adventure, hero of sparta, tom clancy's hawx, GTA academy, bruce lee dragon warrior,blades of fury etc)
Now they claim bada apps will work with tizen.
I'll believe it when i see it but i dont think it will happen for most of the apps without a recompile.
There's great news but what i see its just SDK brew not kernel....
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I'm a huge fan of illusion labs games for the iPhone and I was dissopointed to learn there were no games like TouchGrind or Sway for android, so I emailed illusion labs to see if they had any plans to port these games or something similar to android. This is the response I received:
Hello,
I'm glad you like our games. We have no plans at the moment to port those games to android at the moment. One of the reasons is that the performance is much lower on Android.
Best Regards
Marcus
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Low performance seems like a lame excuse to me coming from an owner of a beastly Samsung Vibrant. Also, my iPhone 3G under-performs most android phones by a long shot and plays these games perfectly fine. I think performance is a poor excuse with some of the top selling android devices having GPU's capable of pushing more pixels then the iPhone, like the Galaxy S line.
I think illusion labs is seriously underestimating android and the demand for high quality android games on the platform. My proposal? Show them there is damand! Download labyrinth (illusion labs only android port) rate it and leave comments demanding they port the other games! And email illusion labs at: [email protected]
Tell them how badly android needs quality games and how perfectly capable android is at games.
Some screenshots of what we are missing out on.
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Low performance? lol
I did my part. Sent an email. Please do the same and keep it civil.
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I did my part. Sent an email. Please do the same and keep it civil.
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Same Here.
"If Gameloft can do it, you can too."
Hardware fragmentation is going to be a major issue with Android for gaming. Look what happened with angry birds. They have to develop a light edition for low and mid range phones. When there is no hardware standard this is bound to happen. Sadly I may end up buying a win7 phone in place of my vibrant because of this one problem....which sucks balls. I like good games...not tile puzzles, bejeweled knockoffs and the like. What is the benefit of having the fastest gpu on the market when there's sh*t for games....other than Gameloft.
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Hardware fragmentation is going to be a major issue with Android for gaming. Look what happened with angry birds. They have to develop a light edition for low and mid range phones. When there is no hardware standard this is bound to happen. Sadly I may end up buying a win7 phone in place of my vibrant because of this one problem....which sucks balls. I like good games...not tile puzzles, bejeweled knockoffs and the like. What is the benefit of having the fastest gpu on the market when there's sh*t for games....other than Gameloft.
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You don't need to move on to WinMo7, I'm sure you and Illusion Labs are un-aware of the new Hardware requirement list of Gingerbread and the new Gaming API introduced with it for high-end 3D Games. Since this is now going to be a standard requirement for all Android phones, the gaming scenario is soon going to change and be at par or exceeding to that of iOS 4 platform.
gatesmarch123 said:
Hardware fragmentation is going to be a major issue with Android for gaming. Look what happened with angry birds. They have to develop a light edition for low and mid range phones. When there is no hardware standard this is bound to happen. Sadly I may end up buying a win7 phone in place of my vibrant because of this one problem....which sucks balls. I like good games...not tile puzzles, bejeweled knockoffs and the like. What is the benefit of having the fastest gpu on the market when there's sh*t for games....other than Gameloft.
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They don't have to make games compatible with every android device. Newer idevice games don't work on older idevices, yet there are still 10's of millions of older iwhatevers in use. Android game devs could just target newer devices the same way. Fragmentation is a lame excuse.
I read an interview with John Carmack the other day and he said the lack of commitment to android was mainly do to market issues. Limited download size plus lack of built-in DRM means a lot of back end work. Building and supporting a drm system and servers to deliver the games. Not fun stuff. Makes more sence then fragmentation and hardware limits. Hopefully gingerbread fixes this.
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They don't have to make games compatible with every android device. Newer idevice games don't work on older idevices, yet there are still 10's of millions of older iwhatevers in use. Android game devs could just target newer devices the same way. Fragmentation is a lame excuse.
I read an interview with John Carmack the other day and he said the lack of commitment to android was mainly do to market issues. Limited download size plus lack of built-in DRM means a lot of back end work. Building and supporting a drm system and servers to deliver the games. Not fun stuff. Makes more sence then fragmentation and hardware limits. Hopefully gingerbread fixes this.
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Well said, I think looking at Market 2.2.6 and its later upgrades this will be resolved. Google is moving really fast on everything "ITS HIGH TIME".
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Well said, I think looking at Market 2.2.6 and its later upgrades this will be resolved. Google is moving really fast on everything "ITS HIGH TIME".
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Yeah Google is really good. Unfortunately the goodness of Google is useless because of T-mobile/Samsung.
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Yeah Google is really good. Unfortunately the goodness of Google is useless because of T-mobile/Samsung.
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Yea it seems HTC has lost its flare against the awesomeness of Samsung.
I got a reply to the email I sent and thought I should share it here.
Let me explain a bit further what I meant in the mail on the forum.
First of all I think the title of the thread is a bit misguiding. All I wrote in the mail was that we have no plans at moment for those two games. That doesn't mean that we don't have other plans for Android.
The comment on performance may have been a bit short formulated on my part. I know that there are many high performance Android devices that can run any high performance game. But there is also a lot of low end phones that have less performance. The problem is that we can't single out one group and have to release our games on all devices. We always try to get our games to run smooth on all devices they are intended for.
I hope my answer was helpful.
Best Regards
Marcus
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Very simple, they make games for the high end and low end just like other developers. That is their loss if they choose not to.
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HP was emailing out surveys to a select few people people with questions such as, "How satisfied are you with your HP TouchPad?", "What do you want more of?" and, "How much did you pay for your TouchPad?”
Looks like it's full steam ahead for HP, lest we forget, HP is, in fact the largest PC maker in the world, they decided to keep their PC division, that means tablets too. And things haven't been slowing down for them either. First it was the Slate 2, then the Envy Laptop, and now there's rumors of a new TouchPad.
nice renders....
but if there is anything then it would be running windows 8 or something.
I got that survey too----i wouldn't read that much into it. It'd be nice, but I can't see them reversing themselves again
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HP was emailing out surveys to a select few people people with questions such as, "How satisfied are you with your HP TouchPad?", "What do you want more of?" and, "How much did you pay for your TouchPad?”
Looks like it's full steam ahead for HP, lest we forget, HP is, in fact the largest PC maker in the world, they decided to keep their PC division, that means tablets too. And things haven't been slowing down for them either. First it was the Slate 2, then the Envy Laptop, and now there's rumors of a new TouchPad.
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Dunno, looks pretty good, Microsoft may buy webOS to avoid other companies obtaining the patents. Microsoft has been rumored to be purchasing webOS patents, leading to what some believe to be a webOS/Microsoft hybrid.
http://www.informationweek.com/byte/commentary/personal-tech/tablets/231600600
This is a good thing because Microsoft wouldn't necessarily have to buy the patents outright. Whitman has already mentioned a "TouchPad 2.0" and I think the TP is deserving of a second chance now more than ever.
Web site from China mainland ?! how many % can be trust .......hahahaha........
Those images - photoshoppery fakishness.
Ask yourself. Has HP not been on the ball lately? New Slate. (Which is lovely by the way) New Laptop(s). Press Conferences. Site redesigns...
New slate? The Slate 2 is just a HP Slate 500 with a better gpu, and slower cpu, with the rest of the specs essentially the same(well its using a slightly newer n-trig digitizer, but nothing to make a current 500 upgrade). It has a lot of Slate 500 owner actually bothered that it took HP a year to bring out something that is more of the same, and didn't even wait to use the newer Atom N2800 cpu. Can't really say that a company on the ball, just a company not sure what to do until the consumer reaction to Windows 8 comes out.
This stuff is all made up, there is no way Microsoft would be involved in making some "Hybrid" of Windows 8, it's doesn't make any sense, Windows 8 and WebOS are competing platforms, they are not complementary to each other in the least. Also why would it be the Touchpad 3, there has only been one generation of the Touchpad.
Edit: a little bit of Googling reveals that no one else is talking about this, OP is creating his own "news".
There has been a 2nd Gen TouchPad, it was the 7-inch TouchPad Go.
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&cp=18....,cf.osb&fp=fc2de84c48e55787&biw=1366&bih=638
Usually, they run stories like this on Monday. It IS the weekend, but, nobody knows about this yet.
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It IS the weekend, but, nobody knows about this yet.
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Are you lonely?
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No, lol but if anything else comes up, be sure to let us know and I'll be keeping my eyes open too for the next thing!
Looks pretty nice... for that is most likely a made up device. At this point I think it all BS and/or wishful thinking.
How much do we really know about Windows 8 being tested on TouchPads?
Nobody ever said anything about that story and it's everywhere.
But that's besides the point: Are you telling me that, when the whole Windows 8 tablet evolution happens, that HP, the biggest PC maker in the world, is not going to make a tablet with Windows 8 on it for consumers?
Now, that would be crazy. It was wise for HP to halt production of the TP1, Windows 8 is right around the corner.
I bet the TP3 is already made.
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How much do we know about Windows 8 being tested on the TouchPads? Nobody ever shot them down. Are you telling me that, when the whole Windows 8 tablet evolution happens, that HP, the biggest PC maker in the world, is not going to make a tablet with Windows 8 on it for consumers?
Now, that would be crazy. It was wise for HP to halt production of the TP1, Windows 8 is right around the corner.
I bet the TP3 is already made.
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From the data in the image you uploaded it would appear that you just created it in Photoshop and it's a bad Photoshop at that.
Stop trolling.
None of that is even the topic at hand lol,
It's part of the whole process when a device is produced, all screen images are simulated. Have you seen a Galaxy Tab commercial lately or a Nokia commercial, or any commercials?? lol
I digress ...
I'd like Windows 8 tablets as is, but integrated webOS sounds like a really good idea, since Microsoft was supposed to have been purchasing the patents anyway.
The question is: Would the TP3 be able to compete with the iPad 3? Of course.
HP would have an excuse to sell it at a high price point. Microsoft gets those patents to save their OS from being a bunch of boring blocks, and suffering the same fate as their Windows phones. So it works for everybody, on the corporate side at least lol!
Sure HP may make a Window 8 tablet, but that as nothing to do with WebOS or the TouchPad.
I'm patient and for the new tablet, and not shoot it down so quickly.
HP may be deciding how exactly this is supposed to play out. Is it going to be dual boot, is it going to be hybrid, what new features it will have..
They've mentioned the possibility of webOS becoming part of their product line as in computers and tablets, but everything they've said, has all been in support of it, so I like what I see.
Honestly, I'm more excited for this than I am for them continuing webOS just by itself. It's more than profitable for them.
I will keep you informed and I will update you.
I'm currently on android and thinking about getting an iphone, can u guys give me some reasons to support which ever u choose xda has never let me down so let the battle begin!!!!
Check these videos, decide yourself after watch them.
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I'm currently on android and thinking about getting an iphone, can u guys give me some reasons to support which ever u choose xda has never let me down so let the battle begin!!!!
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And somewhat subtle too
http://www.lockergnome.com/android/2011/12/26/five-reasons-to-choose-android-over-ios/
If XDA has never let you down then I'll assume you've actually perused the forums previously. If that's the case you should know the benefits of Android over iOS in most cases and the few instances in which iOS is better. If you can't make a decision based upon that then no words offered here will help you. Happy trolling.
iOS is made of junk. Both hardware and software. If you buy an iPhone take care to "hold it the right way".
stick with android, also, your on an android forum, so the reviews will be biased.
i have had both, and android phones are better.
I develop for both Android and iOS so I'll would hope I'm not biased towards one of the other.
In my experience, development on iOS is easier. The tools you get with XCode are far superior than Android/Eclipse especially when it comes to building your User Interface.
Downside with iOS is that it requires you to buy a Mac and then to spend the time learning Objective-C. For most Java developers, Android is just another library so the learning curve is lower.
Brian
Android without question.
No explanation required. lol
Every things better with Android!! With and android if you don't like some thing you can change it but with IOS you stuck with it weather you like it or not. Plus the custom roms on android is what IOS users dream of.
I've personally owned numerous iOS devices as they progressed and I have owned numerous Android devices as they, too, have progressed. I was also, for a decently long time, a heavy iPhone fan. I can say that iPhone will have Android beat in some cases (depending on what devices you compare), but if you compare both iOS and Android top-of-the-line devices, Android wins, hands down. The product is of better quality, the OS is as simple or as complex as you want to get, the specs are better, and the freedom is outrageously more substantial. With iOS, it is simple, it is more integrated, but it just isn't as great as the customization, enhancement, and freedom that android offers.
Android offers freedom, fun, and customization, whilst maintaining simplicity.
iPhone offers simplicity.
Its still ultimately your call, but I'm gonna side with Android. (This, coming from an old iPhone die-hard.)
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and if you go to an iOS forum,they will tell you to stick with iOS,so,its up to you
Here is a side-by-side comparison I captured from Wirefly. It compares the iPhone 4S to the Hottest Androids right now and then it compares the 3GS to several free Androids.
Sorry about the size. They needed to be big to read.
First
iPhone 4S versus hot Android phones.
Then 3GS versus several free Android phones.
It's The Same Thing... In The End, Your Gonna Make Calls, Texts, And Download Apps.
If you go android don't go cheap to compete with the like of the iPhone you have to have the best ..if you go cheap then you are likely to have freeze ups and etc then complain about how you hate android when in actuality its not android its the hardware and the manufacturers customization to the software..so I suggest you start with the elite in the android world as a start ..also iPhone is nice I'm not going to lie..but its limited by a lot so the only thing cool is the apps but who cares android has all the same apps ...iOS is sort of customizable if you jailbreak it but nowhere near as much as android also sometimes to me when jail broken and all of the stuff you do to customize it Iphones seem less stable ..in the end its really up to you simple and straight forward (iPhone)...or simple as you want it to be (android)
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and if you go to an iOS forum,they will tell you to stick with iOS,so,its up to you
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Good answer
I have both, there are advantages and disadvantages of each.
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Apple is a patent troll that wants to destroy all competition by patenting existing technology and suing others for using it. I would never buy one of their products, I'd go back to using a dumb phone if that was the only other option, and if Apple gets their way dumb phones will be the only other option.
They are both good os but Android is better. iOS is so plan and not funny has so many restrictions Android is free and wild. There are other reasons but this is the first thing I'll say.
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Apple is a patent troll that wants to destroy all competition by patenting existing technology and suing others for using it. I would never buy one of their products, I'd go back to using a dumb phone if that was the only other option, and if Apple gets their way dumb phones will be the only other option.
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lol Same here.
I would honestly go without a phone at all before I bought something from apple.
I would also go without a laptop or desktop, or any other computer before I used ios.
. I would use window$ first
(shudders at the thought).
Cross my heart n hope to die, stick a needle in apples (i). :good:
Today, Android 4.1（jelly bean）is better.
You've all probably seen that both "Return to Castle Wolfenstein" and "Quake 3 Arena" have been ported to Android OS. Both are Quake III - Engine based games and work and look pretty good on the Android !
Now I am hoping that someone with the right knowledge has the time and wants to port this oh so awesome game to Android.
If needed, I'll help in the ways that I can. (I am a SoF2 mapper/skinner but I know a lot about this game + I'm in a Modding clan that has a very good coder who could help too.)
For those who do not know this game, it's a game from 2002 made by Activision and Raven. It is known to be one of the most Gore game ever and people still play it , even after 10 years (So do I). The developers are the same of Call of Duty 4 and Black ops.
It's both Online as Offline.
In Multiplayer it's possible to play in both 1st person and in 3rd person.
The levels are located in Texas, Prague, Kamchatka, Colombia, New York, Hong Kong and Switzerland
Watch HD Gameplay on YouTube
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If you have any questions or are interested in this project, PLEASE reply !
This is a dream that I had since I was a teen.
Make it come true ! :victory:
SOF2 Requirements
400Mhz - 1.5Ghz
96MB - 256 Ram
Example of other Q3 Games ported to Android:
Return to Castle Wolfenstein : http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=388286
Quake 3 Arena : http://code.google.com/p/kwaak3/
My works for SOF2:
http://kennithj.byethost7.com/sof2/
Maybe I should've said this too, but the game runs on OpenGL which might make it easier to port.
I know nothing about coding but I know that source code is neened
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I know nothing about coding but I know that source code is neened
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Well I should've posted it yeah, sorry about that ..
Here's the source code of SoF2 MP so I guess SP won't be possible but still, it's possible to play against bots :good:
SoF2 1.03 Source Code
Ok, I mailed the person who created Kwaak3 (Roma / n0n3m4) to ask if he can or if it's possible to port SoF2 DH to Android and he said that it isn't possible because it's closed-source.
Hmm too bad, hopefully there'll be some kind of emulator then if possible but I doubt it.
bit of an old thread but I want to bring it back to top to see if anyone is possibly still interested in this. SOF2 was a game that I played for years. The MP with OSP mod on top and the competitive community was incredible. Then real damage mode came along and ruined the game... that's when we moved to cs source as competitive sof2 was on its last legs. Saying all that, it would be incredible to play a game which has got so much nostalgia attached to it on a handheld device.
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bit of an old thread but I want to bring it back to top to see if anyone is possibly still interested in this. SOF2 was a game that I played for years. The MP with OSP mod on top and the competitive community was incredible. Then real damage mode came along and ruined the game... that's when we moved to cs source as competitive sof2 was on its last legs. Saying all that, it would be incredible to play a game which has got so much nostalgia attached to it on a handheld device.
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Hi, like yourself i am an massive SOF2 fan, spent many years tearing people apart on mp_italy, shop2 and kam2.... i still play to this day in a server with no bots, just a bunch of us old timers.
I for one would LOVE to see this ported to android, it would be great to have this on the go and play using my nVidia Shield. Like Boyka, i am a mapper/skinner having been part of the original XL group that created the tb_ series maps. I can and would help where needed.
Hello there, I have no idea if this thread remains active or not. I'm a 3D artist, I made some maps back in the days on SOF2 under the name of Hutch (ported dust2 from CS, and made some other "useless" maps). Today I'm a rather good 3D artists, I have tons of props and even more textures I created, all "up to date" for current gen graphics. I'm looking for people who'd like to port the game to UDK4, some kind of sof2 reboot, able to connect on the old servers (sof2 classic), and with plenty of new features when playing on the current gen servers. I won't tell too much about it, this message is a bottle in the sea, but please contact me if you're a coder (good one), an animator, or a maper. Here's my facebook, please don't hesitate.
facebook : eclipsmp (3xw dot facebook dot com slash eclipsmp)
bOyka8 said:
You've all probably seen that both "Return to Castle Wolfenstein" and "Quake 3 Arena" have been ported to Android OS. Both are Quake III - Engine based games and work and look pretty good on the Android !
Now I am hoping that someone with the right knowledge has the time and wants to port this oh so awesome game to Android.
If needed, I'll help in the ways that I can. (I am a SoF2 mapper/skinner but I know a lot about this game + I'm in a Modding clan that has a very good coder who could help too.)
For those who do not know this game, it's a game from 2002 made by Activision and Raven. It is known to be one of the most Gore game ever and people still play it , even after 10 years (So do I). The developers are the same of Call of Duty 4 and Black ops.
It's both Online as Offline.
In Multiplayer it's possible to play in both 1st person and in 3rd person.
The levels are located in Texas, Prague, Kamchatka, Colombia, New York, Hong Kong and Switzerland
Watch HD Gameplay on YouTube
If you have any questions or are interested in this project, PLEASE reply !
This is a dream that I had since I was a teen.
Make it come true ! :victory:
SOF2 Requirements
400Mhz - 1.5Ghz
96MB - 256 Ram
Example of other Q3 Games ported to Android:
Return to Castle Wolfenstein : http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=388286
Quake 3 Arena : http://code.google.com/p/kwaak3/
My works for SOF2:
http://kennithj.byethost7.com/sof2/
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Wow! !
bOyka8 said:
Ok, I mailed the person who created Kwaak3 (Roma / n0n3m4) to ask if he can or if it's possible to port SoF2 DH to Android and he said that it isn't possible because it's closed-source.
Hmm too bad, hopefully there'll be some kind of emulator then if possible but I doubt it.
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can i ask u where is this non3m4?
I think you should work on sof 1 instead of 2
I am vaguely interested in a nexus 9, but the driver gimping is a non starter. I do play some Tegra optimized games, and frankly I refuse to give them up because of Google handiwork. I was considering this device as an alternative to the shield tablet, but if this issue can't be fixed I'm going to stick with nvidia's offering. FYI I do already own the shield tablet, I was just considering a switch due to issues I've been having.
I too am interested in making this possible. Pretty frackin pissed at google for disabling something the hardware supports for no reason. Nvidia has it working for the shield tablet so you know the drivers and libraries are available and it would be a simple task for then to enable.
I don't know where its disabled or what all would have to be done/tried to make it work. I have complained on both Nvidias and googles forums. Currently waiting for nvidia to release the full factory images for lollipop for the shield tablet to try compare + copy files. I'm no developer but may have to learn how to compile kernels and build Roms to properly try and overcome this.
Anyone who has more knowledge of the ins and outs of linking libGL.so and such that can offer any insight on where to poke around or start would be greatly appreciated!
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I too am interested in making this possible. Pretty frackin pissed at google for disabling something the hardware supports for no reason. Nvidia has it working for the shield tablet so you know the drivers and libraries are available and it would be a simple task for then to enable.
I don't know where its disabled or what all would have to be done/tried to make it work. I have complained on both Nvidias and googles forums. Currently waiting for nvidia to release the full factory images for lollipop for the shield tablet to try compare + copy files. I'm no developer but may have to learn how to compile kernels and build Roms to properly try and overcome this.
Anyone who has more knowledge of the ins and outs of linking libGL.so and such that can offer any insight on where to poke around or start would be greatly appreciated!
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it would be much better if we had 1st party support instead of porting it over from the Nvidea shield. but its a start i guess.
Do you have the links were you complained to Google and Nvidea maybe if enough people complain they will do something about it.
Googles Nexus 9 forums...
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-9/HC3Gt7N_3_4
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-9/Kv-XL2cvEJ4
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-9/RwAGufbizTI
Nvidia...
https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/.../is-nexus-9-denver-tegra-k1-a-real-tegra-k1-/
https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/782024/tadp-for-nexus9-wishlist-/#4392958
These are all the places where I found any other information about our problem and trying to raise attention to it.
Latest response from someone at nvidia in the 2nd nvidia link above...
"Hi, Users
The K1 Chip does support OpenGL 4.4 and CUDA from the hardware side. The problem is that HTC made the device and Google controlled the software for that device.*
For Nexus 9, using AEP (Android Extension Pack) you can still achieve a lot graphics boost on K1 as using the modern OpenGL APIs."
So it sounds to me like google are the ones that left full GL 4.4 out. We need to petition google to have it enabled and included in future releases.
The Antutu benchmark for 3d graphics is really close between the Shield and Nexus 9. The N9 doesn't seem gimped in this regard. Is there some specific opengl functionality that was left out but doesn't show up in this benchmark?
What's really odd are the CPU performance numbers for the N9 in Antutu. I have a hard time believing the results, as the numbers seem unusually low.
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Yeah they removed a ton of functionality that can speed up applications, as well as breaking compatibility with a ton of existing apps. The android extension pack is a garbage replacement and is google's apparent reasoning for removing OpenGl support. Also benchmarks should be taken with a grain of salt anyways. They are garbage for real world use.
For anyone reading this thread, show your support and make your voice heard here...
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=80512#makechanges
techiedj said:
For anyone reading this thread, show your support and make your voice heard here...
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=80512#makechanges
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Added a comment.. Hopefully google will listen to us... Or perhaps a gifted developer will be able to port stuff from the nvidia shield device...
is there any progress or its dead
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is there any progress or its dead
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Pretty sure it's dead. The 5.1.1 update 2 months ago was a major update, and it includes no new OpenGL support.
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enriquejones666 said:
Pretty sure it's dead. The 5.1.1 update 2 months ago was a major update, and it includes no new OpenGL support.
Sent from my Nexus 9
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no i meant the porting thing