No games for android says illusion labs :( - Vibrant Themes and Apps

I'm a huge fan of illusion labs games for the iPhone and I was dissopointed to learn there were no games like TouchGrind or Sway for android, so I emailed illusion labs to see if they had any plans to port these games or something similar to android. This is the response I received:
Hello,
I'm glad you like our games. We have no plans at the moment to port those games to android at the moment. One of the reasons is that the performance is much lower on Android.
Best Regards
Marcus
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Low performance seems like a lame excuse to me coming from an owner of a beastly Samsung Vibrant. Also, my iPhone 3G under-performs most android phones by a long shot and plays these games perfectly fine. I think performance is a poor excuse with some of the top selling android devices having GPU's capable of pushing more pixels then the iPhone, like the Galaxy S line.
I think illusion labs is seriously underestimating android and the demand for high quality android games on the platform. My proposal? Show them there is damand! Download labyrinth (illusion labs only android port) rate it and leave comments demanding they port the other games! And email illusion labs at: [email protected]
Tell them how badly android needs quality games and how perfectly capable android is at games.
Some screenshots of what we are missing out on.
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Low performance? lol

I did my part. Sent an email. Please do the same and keep it civil.

mmas0n said:
I did my part. Sent an email. Please do the same and keep it civil.
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Same Here.

"If Gameloft can do it, you can too."

Hardware fragmentation is going to be a major issue with Android for gaming. Look what happened with angry birds. They have to develop a light edition for low and mid range phones. When there is no hardware standard this is bound to happen. Sadly I may end up buying a win7 phone in place of my vibrant because of this one problem....which sucks balls. I like good games...not tile puzzles, bejeweled knockoffs and the like. What is the benefit of having the fastest gpu on the market when there's sh*t for games....other than Gameloft.
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gatesmarch123 said:
Hardware fragmentation is going to be a major issue with Android for gaming. Look what happened with angry birds. They have to develop a light edition for low and mid range phones. When there is no hardware standard this is bound to happen. Sadly I may end up buying a win7 phone in place of my vibrant because of this one problem....which sucks balls. I like good games...not tile puzzles, bejeweled knockoffs and the like. What is the benefit of having the fastest gpu on the market when there's sh*t for games....other than Gameloft.
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You don't need to move on to WinMo7, I'm sure you and Illusion Labs are un-aware of the new Hardware requirement list of Gingerbread and the new Gaming API introduced with it for high-end 3D Games. Since this is now going to be a standard requirement for all Android phones, the gaming scenario is soon going to change and be at par or exceeding to that of iOS 4 platform.

gatesmarch123 said:
Hardware fragmentation is going to be a major issue with Android for gaming. Look what happened with angry birds. They have to develop a light edition for low and mid range phones. When there is no hardware standard this is bound to happen. Sadly I may end up buying a win7 phone in place of my vibrant because of this one problem....which sucks balls. I like good games...not tile puzzles, bejeweled knockoffs and the like. What is the benefit of having the fastest gpu on the market when there's sh*t for games....other than Gameloft.
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They don't have to make games compatible with every android device. Newer idevice games don't work on older idevices, yet there are still 10's of millions of older iwhatevers in use. Android game devs could just target newer devices the same way. Fragmentation is a lame excuse.
I read an interview with John Carmack the other day and he said the lack of commitment to android was mainly do to market issues. Limited download size plus lack of built-in DRM means a lot of back end work. Building and supporting a drm system and servers to deliver the games. Not fun stuff. Makes more sence then fragmentation and hardware limits. Hopefully gingerbread fixes this.
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They don't have to make games compatible with every android device. Newer idevice games don't work on older idevices, yet there are still 10's of millions of older iwhatevers in use. Android game devs could just target newer devices the same way. Fragmentation is a lame excuse.
I read an interview with John Carmack the other day and he said the lack of commitment to android was mainly do to market issues. Limited download size plus lack of built-in DRM means a lot of back end work. Building and supporting a drm system and servers to deliver the games. Not fun stuff. Makes more sence then fragmentation and hardware limits. Hopefully gingerbread fixes this.
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Well said, I think looking at Market 2.2.6 and its later upgrades this will be resolved. Google is moving really fast on everything "ITS HIGH TIME".

Jibreil said:
Well said, I think looking at Market 2.2.6 and its later upgrades this will be resolved. Google is moving really fast on everything "ITS HIGH TIME".
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Yeah Google is really good. Unfortunately the goodness of Google is useless because of T-mobile/Samsung.

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Yeah Google is really good. Unfortunately the goodness of Google is useless because of T-mobile/Samsung.
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Yea it seems HTC has lost its flare against the awesomeness of Samsung.

I got a reply to the email I sent and thought I should share it here.
Let me explain a bit further what I meant in the mail on the forum.
First of all I think the title of the thread is a bit misguiding. All I wrote in the mail was that we have no plans at moment for those two games. That doesn't mean that we don't have other plans for Android.
The comment on performance may have been a bit short formulated on my part. I know that there are many high performance Android devices that can run any high performance game. But there is also a lot of low end phones that have less performance. The problem is that we can't single out one group and have to release our games on all devices. We always try to get our games to run smooth on all devices they are intended for.
I hope my answer was helpful.
Best Regards
Marcus
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Very simple, they make games for the high end and low end just like other developers. That is their loss if they choose not to.

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Galaxy S2 vs iPhone 4S

Well, the new / upgraded iPhone has been announced. All I can say is I'm glad I didn't wait for the iPhone 4S and went with the unlocked SGS II. I can't believe they didn't upgrade the screen size!
Here is a run down of the specs:
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I was waiting for someone to post this.......
SGSII win!!
What a huge let down, samsung is releasing tons of sgs2 varients(att/tmo/sprint/intl/lte/hd lte/note/prime) while apple simply upgrades the soc and camera after all this time and says its new and magical.
Screen size
Micro SDXC 64GB+
MKV + others
drag n drop media/files
Better Customization
This is what's lacking for me to even consider changing sgs 2
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All hail s2
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No offence to the OP but YET ANOTHER damn iPhone thread on XDA there must be at least 10 already doing the rounds on the various forums
In a nutshell as ive already said i will never purchase anything Apple related regardless of the specs while they are "closed" and not open source.
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just been reading the article on MSN news about the the release and it has a 'APPARENTLY' new feature called the siri double tapping the home button and you can him/her whatever that is,a question... a simpler version was already implemented into sgs2 (vingo) and with all the sueing battles going on between apple and samsung....shouldnt samsung sue apple for this
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just been reading the article on MSN news about the the release and it has a 'APPARENTLY' new feature called the siri double tapping the home button and you can him/her whatever that is,a question... a simpler version was already implemented into sgs2 (vingo) and with all the sueing battles going on between apple and samsung....shouldnt samsung sue apple for this
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LOL true
in fact we had it since Galaxy S 1
AllGamer said:
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LOL true
in fact we had it since Galaxy S 1
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they just introduced the microphone button on keyboard LMFAO
they are no where near samsung
And they took the Android's roller blind notification.
Apple we're great for kicking the arse of the smartphone back in 2007, but they have fallen behind. Quite disapointing really. If they don't come up with something more "Magical" next year, they might become the new Nokia?
In graphic department the iPhone 4S wins even at a higher resolution (iPad for instance beats all other smartphone and tablets even if they have lower resolution).
Second it wins by more apps also iOS5 is pretty cool although it copied some Android features I guess. But they made it look more sexier, like the notification and widgets look alot better on iOS.
But the downside would probably be it being down clocked to either 700-800mhz since the iPad 2 is at 900Mhz.
But Samsung Galaxy S2 wins everything else
I was very close to buying a iphone 4. Thank god i went for the sgs 2. What a beast of a machine.
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Lol siri was free on thr app store and now that apple bought siri its been removed from the app store and its treating it as a exlcusive selling piont.. Typical apple making u pay for something that was free and making you believe its revolutionary.. The galaxy s 2 had voice input since day one.. That site is wrong because i can tap my phone and it will do wat ever i tel it to, wether thats writing a message or navigating me to a certain place i tell it to and it does it well
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blunted09 said:
I was waiting for someone to post this.......
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Snap me too lol
Bopster1888 said:
I was very close to buying a iphone 4. Thank god i went for the sgs 2. What a beast of a machine.
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I was on that boat too SG2 for president!!!!
pr0n. can close the topic now. jk
Hmmm…..
Again some people bash out against Iphone and say hallelujah to the SG2. I don’t, to neither side.
But my personal view is that Apple has created a product that attracts tens of millions of people. And I believe that the majority of the buyers of the Iphone just want a telephone simple in use, and to show to the outside world that they are trendy.
Not everyone phone users are interested in flashing and tweaking, like us reading XDA. If people want to by a quite expensive Iphone, let them do so. I have been doing it and maybe I will do it again someday, but not the 4S.
Right now there is two SG2 and one TAB 10.1 in our family. And I’m not impressed by the build quality of none of them. On the SG2’s, random boots, loose home button. And the TAB with Newtons rings that has to be put in the freezer for 5-10 minutes, as a temporary fix. Never have I been using the freezer for anything other than food and ice cubes, before now.
Well, they have been sent for repair today, and I hope the TAB shelf in the freezer can be used for other things when I get it back.
So why did I buy Samsung you ask? Well, I bought these units within 45 days and I didn’t know it would be so many problems with 3/ 3 Samsung products. But I give Samsung a chance and hope they will be okay when I get them back.
Some years ago, in a social event, I met the national sales director of a Japanese car company. After a few drinks he started bashing out on the quality of the cars on his biggest competitors.
One other person asked this sales director if he regularly test drive these competitors’ cars? The sales director hesitated a few seconds before he answered ‘Yes of course!’ . But no one believed his answer, and I think almost everyone present didn’t feel he was credible.
And neither do I, when people are bashing out on products that never have been in their hands.
Love my sgs2 but it appears graphics wise the 4gs will trump the s2, based off how well the ipad 2 performs. Not something I care about that much because I don't use it for games or graphic intensive operations, but I know some people on here will secretively wish for that kind of performance.
If those battery stats are right it looks like it will trump the s2 in that department.
Although I wouldn't personally own an iphone, mainly due to the hype being over the top, anyone denying this will challenge or beat the s2 in a few departments is in plainn denial.
A lot of iphone users had already bought the thing before knowing what the specs were... Mmmm no comment. Mind you I'm sure there are some samsung users out there that would do the same
Hmm that's pretty boring because actually nothing changed (for my kind of user at least) : iOS is still the best platform for games and ease of use, Android is still the best platform in terms of actual choice of the hardware and freedom of use. An iPhone will work the exact same way with a dual core processor, the only thing that may change is the quality of the games, which i do not care about since i don't care about gaming on a phone in general.
It's also kind of interesting to see this pathetic attempt of Apple at convincing iFans that they don't need a bigger screen, good luck with that...no wonder Apple shares dropped by a nice 4% just a couple minutes after the 4s was revealed

[Q]Why should i use Android?

Hello all XDA Members
i wanted to know WHAT´s the reason why i should use an Android Phone instead of an iPhone.
iPhone got nice Apps ( high Quality ) & also the Phone itself looks nice. But im not sure if i should buy an iPhone or SGSIII
Hope you can gimme some good reasons
Greetz SpeedYY
Watch the videos here for some good reasons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
sweetnsour said:
Watch the videos here for some good reasons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
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but i hope that the SGSIII wont have these "On Screen Buttons" :/ i hate them somehow - i wanna get a feedback when i push a button and not just a vibration
You'd be happier without Android.
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If your okay with Apple's limitations and price point then the iPhone isn't a bad choice. What limitations you ask?
-Non-removable battery
-Non upgradable memory
-Proprietary charging cable (not a con if you already own some)
-Can't sideload apps without jailbreaking
-Device choice
-Custom launchers, keyboards, widgets, etc
Some people want something that just works, but others want something they can tinker with and personalize and don't mind dealing with issues. Sort of like the car enthusiast who buys the classic muscle car that might need some work compared to the average car driver who buys something new and reliable.
Also try checking this out.
I can't remember this list I came across at the moment but go to google and type in 20 things iPhone users can't do that android users can. If I find it tomorrow I'll post it.
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For me, the advantage of Android in contrast to Apple is that the most - and quite - Apps in the Play Store are for free.
One - and the almost - point is that you can change the battery in Android phones and in the iPhones series not. Also if your iPhone would be long used the memory effect takes effect and you can throw it away because repairing is more expensive than a new modell.
In Android phones you can change the battery if you have feeling that the battery lifetime is low.
SpeedYY said:
Hello all XDA Members
i wanted to know WHAT´s the reason why i should use an Android Phone instead of an iPhone.
iPhone got nice Apps ( high Quality ) & also the Phone itself looks nice. But im not sure if i should buy an iPhone or SGSIII
Hope you can gimme some good reasons
Greetz SpeedYY
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Nobody mentioned that you can't use flash with an iphone and you can't just download things on the Internet
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Cuerrix said:
Nobody mentioned that you can't use flash with an iphone and you can't just download things on the Internet
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indeed! plus a 3.5" screen is just too small these days...
You will love iPhone iOS if :
1.You want something that is working for you and you willing to live with the same thing for quite a long time.
2.You won't bother if your neighbour's phone, your school teacher's phone, your auntie's phone, your baby sitter's (if you have kids ) phone are having ALL THE SAME design for hardware and software.
3.If you think that a phone can represent your status in the social.
4.If you are a boss (just kidding... it might be true sometimes, at somewhere...)
5.If you always worrying people find out what you did in last summer.
You will love Android phones if :
1.You easily get bored with what the stock is having and wish that you can do something about it.
2.You can't sleep well for few nights thinking why your neighbour's phone UI looks exactly the same as yours.
3.If you think that a smartphone must capable of doing more things and having more freedoms than iPhone.
4.If you want to take control over the phone instead of letting it control the way you live with it. (e.g : remove system apps that you don't want from your phone)
5.If you don't mind someone knows what you did in last summer.
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You can use flash on an iphone.
Dave
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kemmo123 said:
indeed! plus a 3.5" screen is just too small these days...
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Beats the living hell out of a 4.5" screen. Or even worse, some bloated turd like the Note.
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This is the way I've started describing it:
iPhone = Automatic transmission car: All you have to do is hit the gas and it goes, you don't have as much control but you don't really realize it because of how nice it feels and how easy it is to drive.
Android = Manual transmission car: You have way more control and the potential to have more speed and power if you are a good driver. But it's not nearly as easy as an automatic and not everyone can handle it.
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This is the way I've started describing it:
iPhone = Automatic transmission car: All you have to do is hit the gas and it goes, you don't have as much control but you don't really realize it because of how nice it feels and how easy it is to drive.
Android = Manual transmission car: You have way more control and the potential to have more speed and power if you are a good driver. But it's not nearly as easy as an automatic and not everyone can handle it.
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i own a WP7 right now xD so it´s comparable with that Automatic transmission car either - nearly not customization- but works and the user doesn't realize it. And im sick of WP7 because they don´t have as many apps as all other OS' got. The second thing i hate about it is the way how you have to unlock it... COMPLICATED :/ ( i bricked my WP7 :'D ) - The third thing i hate about WP7 are the high prices for apps... ( 2,99€ for Doodle Jump -.- )
Android: custom Roms ( Lite'ning Rom for example - but unfortunately non of my friends is using a custom Rom for Android -.- ), easy sideloading, cheap apps ( dunno about the quality of the apps - if someone could tell me how the quality is like i would thank that guy - )
iPhone: high Quality apps, nice design, MUST HAVE PHONE
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Beats the living hell out of a 4.5" screen. Or even worse, some bloated turd like the Note.
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You must be a troll
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You must be a troll
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Having a 4.7" screen is great but 5.x" like the Note has just sucks...
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Beats the living hell out of a 4.5" screen. Or even worse, some bloated turd like the Note.
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Well the beauty of Android is you can pick the screen size anything from just over 3" to 5". Personally I don't want anything much over 4" and like a keyboard so the Droid 3 was my best choice. Phones shouldn't be one size fits all and manufacturers will build whatever size phones sell. Large screens has been an untapped market so 2012 is the year of large screens. But as long as there is demand for < 4" screens then they will still be produced.

[DISCUSSION] Let's Talk Bootdroid

Obviously we are all Android lovers right?
But as I was skimming around one of the general Android forums, I came upon a thread that was talking about something called "Bootdroid." Assuming that this is not fake, Bootdroid allows you to dual boot Android and iOS 5.
I'm going to be honest, being able to boot into iOS 5 on an Android device seems pretty interesting to me. Booting into (a jailbroken) iOS also means being able to use iOS apps that aren't found in the Play Store. Also, buying those expensive iOS devices won't be a problem because you would now be able to take a cheaper Android device, such as the O1, and boot iOS on it.
Probably the only reason why I would choose iOS over Android (other than the apps) is because of how Android lags due to how it renders the UI:
https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
I would guess that our phone's hardware can probably run iOS smoothly given the specs of an iPhone. While the iPhone has a stronger CPU (1GHz Cortex-A9 compared to our 600Mhz ARM11) and a stronger GPU, both the iPhone and the O1 have 512 MB RAM. Also, on the project page, it says that iOS works well on the Motorola Droid, which has a 600Mhz CPU and 256MB RAM.
What's cool about this Bootdroid is that according to the blogspot below:
Android devices that have screen resolutions that are lower than 960x640, or if you can divide the resolution 960x640 by an integer to equal your current devices resolution, then it will likely be more compatible with the iOS 5 firmware and the pixels will be less diluted.
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Of course, if Bootdroid is fake, this would all just be wishful thinking. But it seems pretty legit to me:
http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid/
https://github.com/Peter42/BootDroid
http://bootdroid.blogspot.com/
What are your thoughts?
Interesting, this would actually benefit us because of the many things in iOS, but then again, Android is awesome. I hope this isn't a fake like the other ones i've seen because it would be pretty sweet to have Android and iOS dual-boot
Looks really cool.... but our O1 resolution is not in proportion to 960x640
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Looks really cool.... but our O1 resolution is not in proportion to 960x640
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Actually it is
Isn't our phone 480x320? We can divide 960x640 by 2 to get the resolution of the O1.
This is one of those few times where having a smaller resolution comes in handy. Good luck to those who have 480x800
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Actually it is
Isn't our phone 480x320? We can divide 960x640 by 2 to get the resolution of the O1.
This is one of those few times where having a smaller resolution comes in handy. Good luck to those who have 480x800
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oh OK...I thought the other way...I thought that the proportion between length and width should be the same... like 480 is 1.33 times of 320 but the same is not the case with 960x640..
and what about phones with hd display...
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and what about phones with hd display...
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Well luckily for us, our phone's resolution is proportional to that of the iPhone. For higher-end phones with a greater resolution (such as 480x800), it's going to be hard to resize everything
Gotta be nice
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I thought the project was at a standstill, but it looks like there is some activity going on. If you check out the blogspot, every previous post seems to be deleted. The only post shows a smiley face with the title "Copyright Infringement: Part II" and the words "The Battle has begun. We'll be back soon." I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but at least something is happening
ios on Android phone sounds good..
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Actually it is
Isn't our phone 480x320? We can divide 960x640 by 2 to get the resolution of the O1.
This is one of those few times where having a smaller resolution comes in handy. Good luck to those who have 480x800
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I actually lolled at that one
However, iPhone 2G and 3G have HVGA display so iOS running on the O1 doesn't seem impossible. Just hope that they based it on iOS 2/3/4 and not 5.
But the HVGA variants (screens have 480×320 pixels (3:2 aspect ratio), 480×360 pixels (4:3 aspect ratio), 480×272 (~16:9 aspect ratio) or 640×240 pixels (8:3 aspect ratio)) doesn't include 640x960.
But I'd love to get iOS on my phone especially because of uber smooth scrolling.
Now it says that he's meeting with his lawyer and the website should be running normally in the next few days
Guys you have been talking about resolutions and things. But i think it should be least of our worries . being the Orwellian philosophy that apple follows, will it be possible to hack and slash it up to our needs. of course its our wet dream but the hardware support, kernels all these things- it Wiil definitely be some time before the greatest devs figure it all out.
I'm sincerely not saying this in derogatory sense, just giving you guys some perspectives.
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A newbie here
Android is laggy because it had no UI hw acceleration on GB... now ICS is soooo smooth
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[Q] Incredible!! Will our EVOs have this kind of processing power as well?

So I came across this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAs3ZiPQl-U&feature=youtu.be&t=21m49s
It shows the sgs3 playing a video and running shadowgun at the same time seemingly flawlessly. I've always been pro-HTC, I went from the Touch Pro to the Evo and now I plan to get the EVO LTE. But despite my fanboyism, I have realized that HTC products usually don't perform as well as their samsung rivals in real world usage despite what the numbers and processors should theoretically be doing. I figured the Evo LTE and just about any high-end phone released in the past year can run everything on the market, who cares? Then I see something like this and it blows my mind. I'm almost tempted to jump ship.. but we'll see. What are your thoughts?
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So I came across this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAs3ZiPQl-U&feature=youtu.be&t=21m49s
It shows the sgs3 playing a video and running shadowgun at the same time seemingly flawlessly. I've always been pro-HTC, I went from the Touch Pro to the Evo and now I plan to get the EVO LTE. But despite my fanboyism, I have realized that HTC products usually don't perform as well as their samsung rivals in real world usage despite what the numbers and processors should theoretically be doing. I figured the Evo LTE and just about any high-end phone released in the past year can run everything on the market, who cares? Then I see something like this and it blows my mind. I'm almost tempted to jump ship.. but we'll see. What are your thoughts?
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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It's a new feature of the sgs3. It's a cool, novel feature I suppose. Maybe if you're playing a game and wanna watch a video of someone else doing it or something. But I'm more impressed with how well it did it all at once!
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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click the link and you'll see. lol
thats honestly kinda cool there...not sure how often id use it but it brings PIP back in play but now on mobile phones.....though I hate TouchWiz with a passion so no way im going that route...
whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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Agreed. At least for mobile phones... Could have some usage on tablets like taking a timed class and watching a video to pass the time.
The 24nm Krait S4 Snapdragon is a very capable chip. It should have no problems doing what you're video is doing or even running 2 HD movies simultaneously while running background tasks all simultaneously even on a screen as demanding as the new Evo's.
Samsung has done alot on the software side of things ..to me its more of a wow factor than something that I would ever use. If your in a store and stuck between two phones ..they show a gs3 doing pip and your sold ..not for me ..a cool but useless feature as well as the s talk or whatever it is ..I just don't imagine using it ..its a good phone tho ..you don't have to iuse those features ..to me the new evo is more desirable..and I believe the s4 is 28nm
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Samsung has done alot on the software side of things ..to me its more of a wow factor than something that I would ever use. If your in a store and stuck between two phones ..they show a gs3 doing pip and your sold ..not for me ..a cool but useless feature as well as the s talk or whatever it is ..I just don't imagine using it ..its a good phone tho ..you don't have to iuse those features ..to me the new evo is more desirable..and I believe the s4 is 28nm
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You sir are correct, apologies for the typo. The Krait s4 snapdragons are indeed 28nm.
I have no doubt the EVO 4G LTE could do this, and probably the galaxy s2 as well. What I really don't know is why you would need or want to do this other than to showoff.
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whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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You could write notes, respond to a text, make an appointment, send an email, etc, without having to pause and back out of the video you are watching.
I think its far from pointless. People seem to assign the words "pointless" "useless" and "gimmick" to any feature that doesn't fit their personal lifestyle. Keep an open mind
Samsung says this is something new and groundbreaking that just came out with. BS!!! There is already an app in the Play Store that can do this on the phone in your hand right now. Check out app developers MBFG, I believe they may even be a XDA member. They have an app called OverSkreen that allows you to have a webpage on top of any other screen on your device. I use OverSkreen on my tablet and love it! They have another app that plays videos on top of any other screen just like the Galaxy S3, it's called Stick It! (and yes the "!" is part of the app's name, lol). Check it out. Funny Samsung lies saying how they created the idea an that the GS3 is the only phone that can do this, when in fact any Android phone with the app Stick It!! can do it!!!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.stickit
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The PIP function on the SG3 is not new. There is an app in the market called stick it, for $1.49 that does the same thing. I bought it a couple weeks ago, and it works very well, even though honestly, there isnt really any practical use for it. Many of the software tweaks that samsung is bui8ldin ginto the SG3 are impressive, but not original. You can duplicate just about every functionality they bragged about at the announcement with apps found in the market, or on custom roms readily available for most phones. Ultimately, because the US version will not have the quad core processor, and because i have always found samsung phones to feel cheap in my hand, im going with HTC, whose build quality is usually very good. Oh yeah, that and the pen tile screen on the SG3.... thats a deal breaker for me too
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The PIP function on the SG3 is not new. There is an app in the market called stick it, for $1.49 that does the same thing. I bought it a couple weeks ago, and it works very well, even though honestly, there isnt really any practical use for it. Many of the software tweaks that samsung is bui8ldin ginto the SG3 are impressive, but not original. You can duplicate just about every functionality they bragged about at the announcement with apps found in the market, or on custom roms readily available for most phones. Ultimately, because the US version will not have the quad core processor, and because i have always found samsung phones to feel cheap in my hand, im going with HTC, whose build quality is usually very good. Oh yeah, that and the pen tile screen on the SG3.... thats a deal breaker for me too
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What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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Theoretically, probably. In reality, probably not, if the EVO LTE has the multitasking issue that the ONE X has, which it probably will as HTC customized the multitasking to be so aggressive/ineffective. Really bummed about this. I hope all this is not the case. Show me wrong, HTC.
This concerns me.
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What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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Check out my post above the one you quoted. I mentioned that app as well, but commenting because you should also try out the web browser I aso mentioned. It's by the same dev as the floating video app. OverSkreen is the browsers name and it's awesome!!
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Back to the topic at hand...
Theoretically, probably. In reality, probably not, if the EVO LTE has the multitasking issue that the ONE X has, which it probably will as HTC customized the multitasking to be so aggressive/ineffective. Really bummed about this. I hope all this is not the case. Show me wrong, HTC.
This concerns me.
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Regardless of HTC botching the multi-tasking of Android, our EVOs will still be able to do this easily. Did you forget what website you're on??
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Regardless of HTC botching the multi-tasking of Android, our EVOs will still be able to do this easily. Did you forget what website you're on??
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After custom rom kernel whatevers, sure. Out of the box, might not be able to. Dunno yet
I can Skype and surf the web!
freeza said:
What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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my first thanks! welcome!

Android or IOS??

I'm currently on android and thinking about getting an iphone, can u guys give me some reasons to support which ever u choose xda has never let me down so let the battle begin!!!!
Check these videos, decide yourself after watch them.
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I'm currently on android and thinking about getting an iphone, can u guys give me some reasons to support which ever u choose xda has never let me down so let the battle begin!!!!
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And somewhat subtle too
http://www.lockergnome.com/android/2011/12/26/five-reasons-to-choose-android-over-ios/
If XDA has never let you down then I'll assume you've actually perused the forums previously. If that's the case you should know the benefits of Android over iOS in most cases and the few instances in which iOS is better. If you can't make a decision based upon that then no words offered here will help you. Happy trolling.
iOS is made of junk. Both hardware and software. If you buy an iPhone take care to "hold it the right way".
stick with android, also, your on an android forum, so the reviews will be biased.
i have had both, and android phones are better.
I develop for both Android and iOS so I'll would hope I'm not biased towards one of the other.
In my experience, development on iOS is easier. The tools you get with XCode are far superior than Android/Eclipse especially when it comes to building your User Interface.
Downside with iOS is that it requires you to buy a Mac and then to spend the time learning Objective-C. For most Java developers, Android is just another library so the learning curve is lower.
Brian
Android without question.
No explanation required. lol
Every things better with Android!! With and android if you don't like some thing you can change it but with IOS you stuck with it weather you like it or not. Plus the custom roms on android is what IOS users dream of.
I've personally owned numerous iOS devices as they progressed and I have owned numerous Android devices as they, too, have progressed. I was also, for a decently long time, a heavy iPhone fan. I can say that iPhone will have Android beat in some cases (depending on what devices you compare), but if you compare both iOS and Android top-of-the-line devices, Android wins, hands down. The product is of better quality, the OS is as simple or as complex as you want to get, the specs are better, and the freedom is outrageously more substantial. With iOS, it is simple, it is more integrated, but it just isn't as great as the customization, enhancement, and freedom that android offers.
Android offers freedom, fun, and customization, whilst maintaining simplicity.
iPhone offers simplicity.
Its still ultimately your call, but I'm gonna side with Android. (This, coming from an old iPhone die-hard.)
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and if you go to an iOS forum,they will tell you to stick with iOS,so,its up to you
Here is a side-by-side comparison I captured from Wirefly. It compares the iPhone 4S to the Hottest Androids right now and then it compares the 3GS to several free Androids.
Sorry about the size. They needed to be big to read.
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iPhone 4S versus hot Android phones.
Then 3GS versus several free Android phones.
It's The Same Thing... In The End, Your Gonna Make Calls, Texts, And Download Apps.
If you go android don't go cheap to compete with the like of the iPhone you have to have the best ..if you go cheap then you are likely to have freeze ups and etc then complain about how you hate android when in actuality its not android its the hardware and the manufacturers customization to the software..so I suggest you start with the elite in the android world as a start ..also iPhone is nice I'm not going to lie..but its limited by a lot so the only thing cool is the apps but who cares android has all the same apps ...iOS is sort of customizable if you jailbreak it but nowhere near as much as android also sometimes to me when jail broken and all of the stuff you do to customize it Iphones seem less stable ..in the end its really up to you simple and straight forward (iPhone)...or simple as you want it to be (android)
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and if you go to an iOS forum,they will tell you to stick with iOS,so,its up to you
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Good answer
I have both, there are advantages and disadvantages of each.
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Apple is a patent troll that wants to destroy all competition by patenting existing technology and suing others for using it. I would never buy one of their products, I'd go back to using a dumb phone if that was the only other option, and if Apple gets their way dumb phones will be the only other option.
They are both good os but Android is better. iOS is so plan and not funny has so many restrictions Android is free and wild. There are other reasons but this is the first thing I'll say.
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Apple is a patent troll that wants to destroy all competition by patenting existing technology and suing others for using it. I would never buy one of their products, I'd go back to using a dumb phone if that was the only other option, and if Apple gets their way dumb phones will be the only other option.
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lol Same here.
I would honestly go without a phone at all before I bought something from apple.
I would also go without a laptop or desktop, or any other computer before I used ios.
. I would use window$ first
(shudders at the thought).
Cross my heart n hope to die, stick a needle in apples (i). :good:
Today, Android 4.1(jelly bean)is better.

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