Hey guys,
it's me and my german Prime again. I want to share some of my impressions and findings with the ICS upgrade after some days of use.
First lets think again about the issues I had with HC:
Wifi range was worse than other devices (speed was way better btw)
HDMI screen mirroring was cut at the bottom
HDMI audio was only on the left channel
GPS not working at all (barely one single satellite)
Boottimes were horribly long (2 minutes or longer)
Bluetooth + Wifi lead to massive bandwidth drops
Touchpad was kinda crappy (two finger scrolling in mouse mode)
Okay, all these issues weren't really any kind of deal breaker for me, I really enjoyed my Prime since the .33 update (before the .33 the touchscreen really sucked)
I got (as I expected) my update somewhere around 8 PM PST on January 11.
The updated installed without any problems in about 10 minutes.
After ICS booted up I did a full wipe to ensure I have as less problems as possible.
Now lets talk again about the pre-ICS issues:
Wifi: Pre-ICS I was not able to connect to my home network due to the Prime not seeing it all. (Range issue)
This is now fixed with ICS. So in fact this means the Wifi range is better now (at least for me). The connection is also a bit more stable.
Both HDMI errors are gone now. Playing 720p and 1080p mkv files with DTS or AC3 sound works perfectly with Diceplayer.
Not a single issue anymore
Touchpad performance is way better now.
I can actually use the mouse mode now for scrolling etc. Nice!
Boottime almost halfed for me. It boots up way faster now.
Wasn't a big issue before, but nice to see they are making improvements here.
As several member here pointed out, the Bluetooth Wifi issue is not a Prime specific issue.
Every single other device I tested had exactly the same problem. No matter if a Desire, Desire HD, Lumia 800, even my Laptop to some extend...
So this "issue" is a non issue for me.
Now to the GPS part: (Please note that this issue is a non issue for me too, I don't care for my tablets GPS, it's only that I want everything to work).
It's actually too cold outside to test the GPS more than two minutes, but after this time I still can't see a single satellite...
So far I never had any kind of GPS lock with my Prime. I am not sure if it just needs more time...
I will test that later.
I tested the GPS for several hours now (actually I just put the thing outside under clear sky and let it rest there for some hours)
It searched constantly for GPS satellites using the "GPS Status" app and didn't find a single satellite. Not even one.
The only reason why I think I don't have a broken GPS chip/antenna is that I saw one satellite back in HC times...
Since then not a single satellite anymore. (Wifi on/off didn't make any difference btw)
As said above, I don't really care, so this totally faulty GPS (it really just doesn't show anything) is a really good point to return it some time later to get maybe a completely new one
I've found also several non-issue related things:
ICS just looks beautiful
Damn ICS is fast! Everything is just that important bit faster than HC. (not that HC was really slow, but ICS is just noticable faster)
The ASUS taskmanager widget just does not work at all.
It just shuts down as soon as you add it to your homescreen. That's a bit embarassing
Some other facts and information:
Do you know about the "Deactivate app" feature? (Settings->Apps->Click on single app) It's awesome!
You can deactivate (like freeze in titanium) almost every app on the prime. Even the system apps.
I deativated quite a bunch of them (about 20) and the system feels even faster now
I just tested my PS3 controller on the Prime. The native (via USB cable) support works quite well for GTA3 or Shadowgun.
Unfortunately the "Sixaxis" app is not completely compatible yet, touchprofiles won't work at all.
The dev already promised a fixed version for next week
The browser performance is really nice No lagging or skipping
After some fiddling around finally browser sync with chrome works too That's really cool! (I needed to delete chromes bookmark data first in google's dashboard, then resync my local chrome. After that the syncing to the Prime worked perfectly.)
So all in all I am super happy with the ICS update. There's still room for improvement, but ICS really made my Prime the device it should have been since the beginning.
My experience with my (DE SKU) Prime is almost the same. Though I had no WiFi issues prior to ICS.
I've only had mine since monday, so I only had 3 days to play with HC before ICS. But even I feel the difference. Everything is just smoother and more responsive. Especially the web browser. And it will actually sync your Chrome bookmarks now. Yay!
I'm exceptionally happy with my device. I bought it to keep me entertained with movies and games during my 2 hours of commuting every day. So far it's been too much fun to play with to get any gaming or movie watching done.
And I'm not sure if it's because my battery is being broken in, but I feel my battery life has gone up since ICS also.
But yes, Asus Taskmanager seems to be broken for me also. Chrashes as soon as it starts. That's the only negative thing I've seen since the ICS upgrade.
This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
Cernunnoz said:
This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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well, my prime actually picked up my university's wifi network and had a pretty good signal while my galaxy s2 struggled to even connect. at home, the prime is just a tad slower than my sgs2 when doing speedtests.
Hi Diamondback2010,
I got my Prime and at this moment debating if I'm going to stay with it. I'm on ICS and the issue for me is the skippy WiFi. I have a 50MB connection at home and all my other devices laptops, desktop have no issues whatsoever streaming media to tv however simply being 15ft from the router on the Prime I'm losing connection simply by browsing webpages and they take long to load. I don't have this problem even on my DHD.
For a WiFi only device WiFi is the most important aspect for me and the intended use is for traveling and connecting to different WiFi networks.
Perhaps the newer Prime would be more suitable for my needs that's coming in a few months time unless the current Prime can be made better or these issues I'm having resolved with a firmware update or something.
Also to mention I can replicate screen flickering on the Prime on ICS by using it for a while opening a dozen apps/webpages and tapping the recent items button makes the screen flicker on ICS.
This isn't very good plus the WiFi issue I might send it back, will further be testing today.
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This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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As much as I also love my SGS2, I've never felt it had particularly good wifi. So my Prime beats it nicely. Especially when it comes to the data flow from some distance (20-30 feet through 2 walls) where my SGS2 will have data drops using speed test, my Prime will see no such issues. And the Prime will have more than 10db better signal strength than my SGS2.
I know you asked for the GS2 or the TF101 but since I have neither of those I compared it to my HTC Wildfire which it beat quite comfortably.
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As much as I also love my SGS2, I've never felt it had particularly good wifi. So my Prime beats it nicely. Especially when it comes to the data flow from some distance (20-30 feet through 2 walls) where my SGS2 will have data drops using speed test, my Prime will see no such issues. And the Prime will have more than 10db better signal strength than my SGS2.
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That sounds great! I know the SGS2 isn't known for the best wifi, but it is good enough to get a connection where I normaly would use the prime. My TF101 is a little bit better than the SGS2. If the Prime is anywhere between those two, I will buy one! You convinced me
It doesn't release here in Norway untill the 30th, but I will get one then. We are only getting the Champagne gold one, originally I wanted the Amethyst more. Any of you got any impressions on the colors? What do you think of the champagne one?
Cernunnoz said:
This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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Hi Diamondback2010,
I got my Prime and at this moment debating if I'm going to stay with it. I'm on ICS and the issue for me is the skippy WiFi. I have a 50MB connection at home and all my other devices laptops, desktop have no issues whatsoever streaming media to tv however simply being 15ft from the router on the Prime I'm losing connection simply by browsing webpages and they take long to load. I don't have this problem even on my DHD.
For a WiFi only device WiFi is the most important aspect for me and the intended use is for traveling and connecting to different WiFi networks.
Perhaps the newer Prime would be more suitable for my needs that's coming in a few months time unless the current Prime can be made better or these issues I'm having resolved with a firmware update or something.
Also to mention I can replicate screen flickering on the Prime on ICS by using it for a while opening a dozen apps/webpages and tapping the recent items button makes the screen flicker on ICS.
This isn't very good plus the WiFi issue I might send it back, will further be testing today.
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Well I can compare it to my laptop and my Desire HD.
My laptop has a really good Wifi reception and it beats my Prime to death
But my Desire HD is a different story. The DHD does have a better range, but that is due to the fact that we (Virtuous Team, creator of the custom ROM I am running) tweaked the Wifi range way beyond stock levels, which leads to really crappy speeds at such ranges.
So in fact my Prime beats my DHD speed wise too. Only thing you really have to keep in mind, is that the Prime's connection is heavily orientation dependant. If the screen shows towards the router (or the general direction) it has quite a bit better recpetion as opposed to the backside towards the router.
I can't really replicate this with m DHD (at least not as much, DHD has Wifi antenna on the backside under a plastic RF window)
With HC I was a bit concerned about Wifi (only range, not the speed), after ICS this is gone.
One gripe is left, but this has something to do with ICS and not the Prime.
You are forced to have some kind of locking mechanism (pin, passwort, gesture) if you want to use an enterprise wifi with certificates (university network)...
That's a bit annyoing... :/
But it's the same on my Desire HD...
Diamondback said:
Well I can compare it to my laptop and my Desire HD.
My laptop has a really good Wifi reception and it beats my Prime to death
But my Desire HD is a different story. The DHD does have a better range, but that is due to the fact that we (Virtuous Team, creator of the custom ROM I am running) tweaked the Wifi range way beyond stock levels, which leads to really crappy speeds at such ranges.
So in fact my Prime beats my DHD speed wise too. Only thing you really have to keep in mind, is that the Prime's connection is heavily orientation dependant. If the screen shows towards the router (or the general direction) it has quite a bit better recpetion as opposed to the backside towards the router.
I can't really replicate this with m DHD (at least not as much, DHD has Wifi antenna on the backside under a plastic RF window)
With HC I was a bit concerned about Wifi (only range, not the speed), after ICS this is gone.
One gripe is left, but this has something to do with ICS and not the Prime.
You are forced to have some kind of locking mechanism (pin, passwort, gesture) if you want to use an enterprise wifi with certificates (university network)...
That's a bit annyoing... :/
But it's the same on my Desire HD...
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I have just been doing some WiFi tests with my HTC Desire HD (running Virtuous Affinity) and Asus Transformer Prime and this is what I'm not happy about
I have a 50MB connection and the desktop with a direct connection is getting 49Mbps so it is a true 50Mbps connection
Now for tests sitting right next to the router which is an N-series router
On my laptop I'm getting 34Mbps
On my HTC Desire HD I'm getting 18Mbps
On the Prime I'm getting 11Mbps
Now for outside in the garden going through 2 walls about 20ft away
On my laptop I'm getting 12Mbps
On my HTC Desire HD I'm getting 6Mbps
On my Prime I'm getting 1Mbps!
I have done this several times and the figures are consistent - this shows my Prime to be under performing compared to my other devices. I would expect the Prime to perform better than the Desire HD but it doesn't.
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I'm not experiencing that at all.. Within 10 feet (or right next to) my router I get over 40Mbps down/5Mbps up (I got a 50/5Mbit connection). This is with a Linksys E4200 v1 router.
20-30 feet away (around 7-10 meters) through 2 walls, I get around 10-14Mbps down/4Mbps up. This is almost the same as my old Netbook (Asus Eee first gen). And alot better than my SGS2.
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I'm not experiencing that at all.. Within 10 feet (or right next to) my router I get over 40Mbps down/5Mbps up (I got a 50/5Mbit connection). This is with a Linksys E4200 v1 router.
20-30 feet away (around 7-10 meters) through 2 walls, I get around 10-14Mbps down/4Mbps up. This is almost the same as my old Netbook (Asus Eee first gen). And alot better than my SGS2.
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I got one of them Asus Eee pad 1000HE's from years ago too and that performs better than my Prime does with WiFi.
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ToneyEricsson said:
I got one of them Asus Eee pad 1000HE's from years ago too and that performs better than my Prime does with WiFi.
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It's better, but only by a tiny amount.. And nothing noticable for me when I do a speedtest (2-3Mbps difference and just as stable). I have to note, that my tests are through drywall, not brick.
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It's better, but only by a tiny amount.. And nothing noticable for me when I do a speedtest (2-3Mbps difference and just as stable). I have to note, that my tests are through drywall, not brick.
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My tests were through brick house walls. Thinking about it its quite amazing that the old Asus 1000HE netbook I have running Windows 7 which I upgraded it with has better WiFi than my Asus Transformer Prime...
I got the Prime for a similar use as the 1000HE for travelling abroad where I connect to loads of WiFi networks. With that low WiFi performance on the Prime I can see I'm going to have problems.
I'm debating to send it back and waiting for the newer Prime which maybe an improvement...
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Have you tried doing a factory reset? I've seen people say that their wifi was fixed after that. Please report back if you try.
Cernunnoz said:
Have you tried doing a factory reset? I've seen people say that their wifi was fixed after that. Please report back if you try.
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I haven't tried a factory reset I will try it and see what happens.
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I'd deffinatly try a factory reset if I was you, as a last resort.. Brick/drywall aside. 11Mbps right next to the router is not right unless you got some serious interference going on.
Just trying a factory reset from settings. Would that be the only reset method to reset or is there some other method with a pin?
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I believe thats the way to do it yes.. The pin is only for force rebooting the device, not a data wipe.
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I believe thats the way to do it yes.. The pin is only for force rebooting the device, not a data wipe.
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I see just doing the data wipe from settings but I see after booting up ICS is showing 4.0.3 as current installed Android version so by the looks its only wiping user data and apps.
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I have not bought this, yet. Just wondering if the wifi issue is a issue or not?
Really? Search?
It's part of the reason why it's so hard to find one at a brick and mortar.
I think you would find a heck of a lot of information regarding your question if you did a search for wifi issues.
ON my Prime the wifi is very fast and shares the signal strength of my father's ipad1.
WIFI - what I found
I had my Prime along side my transformer. The Transformer needle buried to -40 dBm's where the Prime would lay between -50 and -60 dBm's and fluctuate also. I am finding the Transformer has better and stronger WiFi
The wifi issue WAS real. I do not have any issues with my unit.
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oh,its real alright!
I originally bought my wife a toshiba thrive and replaced it with the prime after a week.So far,she hates the prime saying that its much slower at everything it does,and i have to agree with her. But all that speed drop is related to the wifi problem...it disconnects randomly,and when connected,web browsing is sluggish compared to the to shiba. Also had a few fc when playing games wich resulted in having to reboot the prime.
Am trying to explain to her that there will be a solution to this problem pretty soon for sure. Please note that the tablet is updated to asus latest firmware and the wifi problem is not corrected.
My conclusion is that the prime was released too early,but im sure that the issues will be resolved by the goodfolks at asus,or by the geek studs here in the xda community.
So maybe the prime is not ready for the general public,but still very desirable for the techies at heart.
speed4134 said:
oh,its real alright!
I originally bought my wife a toshiba thrive and replaced it with the prime after a week.So far,she hates the prime saying that its much slower at everything it does,and i have to agree with her. But all that speed drop is related to the wifi problem...it disconnects randomly,and when connected,web browsing is sluggish compared to the to shiba. Also had a few fc when playing games wich resulted in having to reboot the prime.
Am trying to explain to her that there will be a solution to this problem pretty soon for sure. Please note that the tablet is updated to asus latest firmware and the wifi problem is not corrected.
My conclusion is that the prime was released too early,but im sure that the issues will be resolved by the goodfolks at asus,or by the geek studs here in the xda community.
So maybe the prime is not ready for the general public,but still very desirable for the techies at heart.
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Play with your AP setting...channel, security, etc. I've had to fiddle with these for almost every new device I get, as annoying as that is.
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The Wifi on my Prime has been more reliable than the Wifi on my old TF1. It is stronger, probably thanks to the dual antenna system, and have had no problem in my house, at work, or any coffee shop. Speeds seems about the same other than the browser loading pages faster thanks to the Tegra 3.
I managed to buy one of the original pre-shipping units that had VERY inconsistent WiFi similar to what has been pointed out in online reviews - signal fluctuating between -40 and -75 on a wireless router in the same room.
Yesterday, I traded that unit for on in the first batch shipped to Gamestop and the difference is noticeable. Pretty steady signal strength between -38 and -45.
Wifi on mine is fine in my house, always pretty much full strength. I have a 4 story townhouse, with an AP on floor 2 and 4. The Prime connects much more reliably than my Galaxy Nexus.
No problemo with my TF201
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No problems on mine. Strong signal even way out in the yard.
Getting inconsistent signal on mines while being only five ft from.my router.
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I've tested mine along side my galaxy tab and they have the same WiFi strength in all areas of my house and even outside/garage etc...Picked my TFP up from GS on the 21st just for reference.
GPS on the other hand....not so great. Not so great meaning not working at all.
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The issue doesn't seem to be getting a signal, it seems to be maintaining it consistently. A couple of people have posted reports from Wi-Fi Analyzer showing there's a bunch of fluctuation on the Prime that doesn't appear on other devices compared side-by-side. That could be an issue when you're not at home and using sketchy signals at airports, restaurants, and hotels. It also would be invisible in things like browsing and downloads but a problem in streaming video or audio. Anyone checking or comparing Wi-Fi should do it using Wi-Fi Analyzer (or similar).
BarryH_GEG said:
The issue doesn't seem to be getting a signal, it seems to be maintaining it consistently. A couple of people have posted reports from Wi-Fi Analyzer showing there's a bunch of fluctuation on the Prime that doesn't appear on other devices compared side-by-side. That could be an issue when you're not at home and using sketchy signals at airports, restaurants, and hotels. It also would be invisible in things like browsing and downloads but a problem in streaming video or audio. Anyone checking or comparing Wi-Fi should do it using Wi-Fi Analyzer (or similar).
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I tested using wifi analyzer and have not noted any difference between my old school(but new) tab and my TFP. I have also not noticed any issue with youtube as of yet although I've only watched a video here and there. I have not done any testing away from home but I have used the prime tethered to my tab and evo with no issues so far. I will create a video if anyone is interested.
And again, sadly, GPS is a no-go.
Edit:// It should be noted too that my router is located centrally in my modest sized home. 1700 squaw feets. Or square even.
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Wifi on my prime works fine. connection strength is strong. no dropped signals or anything. seems right on par with my iPad. so in all I don't have any problems with my device or wifi.
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skeptikal said:
I've tested mine along side my galaxy tab and they have the same WiFi strength in all areas of my house and even outside/garage etc...Picked my TFP up from GS on the 21st just for reference.
GPS on the other hand....not so great. Not so great meaning not working at all.
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I haven't tested my GPS out yet. don't want to take this outside without a case
Guys, I'm averaging about -55dbm from my mobile hotspot. The Prime is right next to the phone. Should I be worried?
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Edit:// It should be noted too that my router is located centrally in my modest sized home. 1700 squaw feets. Or square even.
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1,700 square feet may be modest for TX but it's down right huge in some places. You guys should post what routers you're using too. Samsung devices have a particular distaste for D-Link and perform exceptionally well with NetGear. So it might be interesting to see if the Prime interacts with all routers the same way.
This is the first tablet I have purchased but not the first one I have used and I bought it to accompany my Samsung Galaxy S2 and my iPhone but I must confess I am not a big Apple fan.
Why am I happy?
I have a Quad Core tablet
It's shiny and new
It isn't an iPad
loving the keyboard
generally works quite well
Why am I unhappy?
GPS - I wanted fully functional GPS
Exporting video in Movie STudio it causes the TFP to reboot.
Many applicaton crashes including google apps
in hindsight i should of waited for a 3g model
Im hoping ics will be the answer to my prayers and asus provide a 3g add on module but time will tell.
conner said:
This is the first tablet I have purchased but not the first one I have used and I bought it to accompany my Samsung Galaxy S2 and my iPhone but I must confess I am not a big Apple fan.
Why am I happy?
I have a Quad Core tablet
It's shiny and new
It isn't an iPad
loving the keyboard
generally works quite well
Why am I unhappy?
GPS - I wanted fully functional GPS
Exporting video in Movie STudio it causes the TFP to reboot.
Many applicaton crashes including google apps
in hindsight i should of waited for a 3g model
Im hoping ics will be the answer to my prayers and asus provide a 3g add on module but time will tell.
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I think there are 10's of threads you could have added your opinion to. But, that said, I think if you're hoping for ICS to magically make the Prime a better option for you, you're going to be disappointed. And I'd not hold out for a "3g add on module"--the 3G version of the Prime will be a completely new, redesigned device.
Sounds like you should return your Prime and wait for something that better meets your needs. And just for the record, I only have one app that routinely crashes on my Prime, and it's problematic on other Honeycomb tablets as well. Otherwise, I've found the Prime to be remarkably stable.
conner said:
This is the first tablet I have purchased but not the first one I have used and I bought it to accompany my Samsung Galaxy S2 and my iPhone but I must confess I am not a big Apple fan.
Why am I happy?
I have a Quad Core tablet
It's shiny and new
It isn't an iPad
loving the keyboard
generally works quite well
Why am I unhappy?
GPS - I wanted fully functional GPS
Exporting video in Movie STudio it causes the TFP to reboot.
Many applicaton crashes including google apps
in hindsight i should of waited for a 3g model
Im hoping ics will be the answer to my prayers and asus provide a 3g add on module but time will tell.
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ASUS seriously should have waited for ICS until they sold the Prime. The above post is the perfect example of what happens if you rush a generally super nice device with totally crappy software on it...
@OP: Iam sure you will be less sad with ICS
I'm still hoping that Asus will come up with a plastic window solution like the Ipad for its gps problem, they can easily retool the case and fab the plastic insert.
As far as apps go, its not Prime fault. those apps need updating from developers that made them. Google earth works perfectly now as it was just updated the other day. as far as that movie studio goes, I had the same thing happen. I don't like it really. So you can't fault the device from a software standpoint. because that always can be improved. Plus you can expect alot of apps not to be working in ICS because not all apps updated yet to support it. The apps are getting there but alot still out there that needs ICS support.
The GPS issue I can understand. You can bet though that 3g version will be at a minimum $100 more plus you will be tied into a massive data plan which requires a premium extra fee because its a tablet. Prime is still a Good choice. even without GPS working.
I've had my for three days now. I'm deciding if I'm going to return mine or not.
Pros:
Screen and brightness is second to none. Super IPS actually hurts my eyes. Marvelous.
Wifi works fine for me. Mostly like my OG ipad
Camera quality is great. Video and pictures great.
Games like Riptide and Madden play super.
Flash websites like HBO go.com work great compare to OG Transformer that I owned.
I like the when you correct a word it zooms in on the area without a circle.
Kind of fun to hold. So very thin.
Having 64gb thanks to my SD card
With volume+ app. Speakers very nice.
Charges fast
Battery life continues to get better
No screen lag for me when transitioning.
ICS coming soon.
Cons:
GPS is brutally awful. Not sure if its a deal breaker.
Bluetooth and wifi don't work together like they should.
Lack of accessories.
Do I feel this is better than the first TF (owned for 6 months)? Yes.
Is it better than the current tablets now out (including I pad 2 wifi to wifi)? Yes.
Will this be the Blackberry Playbook of 2012 (considering major flaws for some)? Decisions. The last thing I want to see in a couple months is TF Prime for 299.00 at BB.
This thing is going for a premium on EBay right now as well.
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I know it might be a matter of, "It's a functionality that should work, end of story..."
But can I ask you what your personal use for GPS is in your particular case? I had a Samsung GT10.1 for 8 months and I used the gps maybe three times. And even then it was locked onto a signal fairly quickly because the used the auto assist wifi signal, and I cannot fathom a usage instance that requires gps without wifi.
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ASUS seriously should have waited for ICS until they sold the Prime. The above post is the perfect example of what happens if you rush a generally super nice device with totally crappy software on it...
@OP: Iam sure you will be less sad with ICS
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I'm sure there are voices on both sides
release first then ice, or wait for pics then release.
for all Ive heard before the release were come on, just release it already, pics, hc I don't care.
and not everyone start saying they should wait till pics to release it. tough crowd
It's the current battle of selling points with iCS, gps and 3/4g being the main contenders. Any new tablet that does not feature these will suffer from lackluster sales, imo.
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I know it might be a matter of, "It's a functionality that should work, end of story..."
But can I ask you what your personal use for GPS is in your particular case? I had a Samsung GT10.1 for 8 months and I used the gps maybe three times. And even then it was locked onto a signal fairly quickly because the used the auto assist wifi signal, and I cannot fathom a usage instance that requires gps without wifi.
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I bought this as a work device/toy. At the moment I don't know what I want to use GPS for but I just want my tablet to do what it says it should do on the tin. I don't like Apple but they seem to have set the bar really high and the iPad pretty much does what it says it will do.
I understand what you are saying and it may turn out that I never need it but I paid for it and would at least like the choice to not use it rather than not use it because of an Asus major design flaw.
To add to the list of cons it reboots every morning whether it has been charged or not.
Why wasn't this added to the rest of the gripe threads? Nothing stated here that hadn't already been a rebeating of the dust that used to be the skeleton of the dead horse.
I think we all get it. People always strive to get somethng, then when they get it, they want more.. some more than others.
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Course charting in a boat using Navionics software for one. Saved me thousands on a marine gps unit and I'm using a very old Ipad for it now.
I don't expect everyone would do this, but Come'on these statements like, "I never used gps so I don't know why anyone else would", just expose your lack of imagination.
my 2 cents:
Of the 3 tablets I now own...the tf101, ipad 1, and the prime...the prime easily wins the day. Its the best tablet I have ever used.
There are a few niggles.
1. The tf101 has the best wifi of the three. The prime and the ipad 1 score exactly the same in my testing for wifi performance....which is good enough for me. Not sure why people are griping about wifi so much while mine is par or better than the ipad 1...at 50+ feet and 4 walls from my router I still get 3-4 Mbps. Netflix, etc streams beautifully from the farthest corners in my house.
I don't often bother with bluetooth on my android tablets so I have yet to test this.
2. I rarely use my tablets for GPS so this is not a deal breaker for me. I have an offline GPS system anyway that does not require live data connection which I prefer on the road. I have yet to test the prime GPS...right now GMAPS snaps up my location using IP address I imagine.
After that this tablet plays high profile 1080p mkv files both from my network and from the sdcard without a hitch, has a GORGEOUS display, slim, light, has great battery life and runs honeycomb better than any tablet out there (I've fiddled with just about all of them). ICS will be the icing on the cake.
Sometimes these forums can turn us into quibblers. I never would have noticed the issues raised here on my typical usage of the prime or any of my tablets. For example, I never knew the TF101 has such great wifi performance compared to the Ipad 1 until I tested it because of this forum. The ipad always seemed just fine to me and so does the prime....and really thats all that matters.
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I bought this as a work device/toy. At the moment I don't know what I want to use GPS for but I just want my tablet to do what it says it should do on the tin. I don't like Apple but they seem to have set the bar really high and the iPad pretty much does what it says it will do.
I understand what you are saying and it may turn out that I never need it but I paid for it and would at least like the choice to not use it rather than not use it because of an Asus major design flaw.
To add to the list of cons it reboots every morning whether it has been charged or not.
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In all likelihood it sounds as if the assisted GPS will serve your purposes just fine then. I really do not understand why anyone thought this tablet was going to be a Garmin. I also thought (and suppose I am or could be worng), that this was always advertised as aGPS. GPS does work when it is assisted by wifi, and it works pretty well when it's not. I wouldn't rely on it to drive, but I don't know why anyone would rely on anything other than a dedicated GPS to navigate - I certainly never take off on my bicycle to place unknown with just my phone, I always have my Garmin. If someone needs to navigate then they need to buy a dangerous Garmin and not think they "Got lucky" and scored a $500 tablet that allows included a real GPS that costs at least $100+ app on it's own.
Anyway.....the rebooting thing sounds like a real pain.. Mine has never reboot randomly. You say it happens in the morning, and I wonder what the culprit could Be? Are you powering it up and then it reboots or waking it Up? I wonder if it's an app.
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Anyway.....the rebooting thing sounds like a real pain.. Mine has never reboot randomly. You say it happens in the morning, and I wonder what the culprit could Be? Are you powering it up and then it reboots or waking it Up? I wonder if it's an app.
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It reboots after waking up. I have no plans to give up on the TFP at the moment and I' will persist to iron out as much as I can. I will post any findings.
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Course charting in a boat using Navionics software for one. Saved me thousands on a marine gps unit and I'm using a very old Ipad for it now.
I don't expect everyone would do this, but Come'on these statements like, "I never used gps so I don't know why anyone else would", just expose your lack of imagination.
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I am going to use marine apps as well. Do you guys think if you have a GPS lock the Prime will keep it because the speed of a sailboat is not too fast?
Accuracy doesn`t really matter.
My phone with google navigation is perfect as a GPS, I don't need something four times bigger that won't ever fit anywhere on my car and won't charge on the car adaptator.
aGPS is more than enough for me.
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It reboots after waking up. I have no plans to give up on the TFP at the moment and I' will persist to iron out as much as I can. I will post any findings.
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sounds like an app issue, did you notice it happening after installing anything in particular?
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I am going to use marine apps as well. Do you guys think if you have a GPS lock the Prime will keep it because the speed of a sailboat is not too fast?
Accuracy doesn`t really matter.
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Maybe you will have better luck than me. But, my Prime couldn't keep a lock, motionless, in the same orientation and location. The GPS just seemed to lose everything and started searching again, for no reason. That was a deal killer for me. If Asus had offered to fix this one problem, it would have been a real keeper! Instead the way they handled it just made me lose all confidence in their ability to support a quality product.
Be prepared to hear that you shouldn't expect GPS to work but that's no problem, and why would you want to use it on a tablet anyway? It would appear that most happy Prime users don't get out much or realize that an automobile is not the only use for GPS!
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By the time I got round to editing and exporting a movie I had already installed all my fav appz. I'll start first with removing the MXvideo player
Hi guys,
I went to Best Buy yesterday and got to try your Asus Prime. Wow! I was impress by the speed and the Ics. I was gonna buy it but they freshed out.
However, I did some reading on your Q&A add I see that the little ***** is giving you some trouble. Is it that bad, is it happening to everybody? I currently own a gtb 7510. Is not bad. I have a custom rom Task14 and oc'd to 1.4 with petshoots kernel. Still, the Asus is pretty impressive with its speed is very responsive and the display is beautifull.
Gtap is ok but its still not @ par with the ipad2. I think the asus prime (the one I tried) does size up to the ipad3.
So, is everyone here having issues with the ATP?
Thank you.
Edit- I'm asking all this because I'm still on time to return my gtab.
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welll for me my Asus TF Prime been good do far. Had it for about 3 weeks.
I'm in the UK btw.
Everything is working and running smoothly on this tablet. No crashes whatsoever.
I guess it depends are lucky you are. For me I am lucky i have a 100% perfect Tablet.
But then every product I have brought by far has been good to me apart from the dell streak 5 which lasting for 2 monthes the screen suddenly broke!
I say go ahead buy this tablet, You won't regret it. Did I mention that this tablet looks sexy too!
It does look sexy!
It sure runs everything you throw at it.
I got 1080p .mkv files to play which I couldn't on my first Transformer.
It runs my playstation games great too (emu)
Wireless gamepad (BT) on the go. I am using the ps3 pad.
I do use onlive on my tablet and it is amazing.
Free splashscreen software which I stream my pc desktop to my Prime at times. Can play CS:S on it lol
web surfing is fine by far. No hipcups.
Incredible super IPS+. Makes this look comparable to the new ipad with the brightness full & IPS+
I would use my Prime to type on here but I am currently using it to watch the Engadget podcast lol
Using the keyboard dock is nice. typing won't be as good as what you get on your keyboard but will pass. the batt is amazing. Surfing the net, checking my email, movie watching (1-2) will last me a whole day. when I am playing games and watching movies (2-3), listening to music it will last about 5-6 hours for me. ALL THESE NOT DOCKING THE TABLET INTO THE KEYBOARD DOCK.
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It does look sexy!
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I shade one of the first batches as I got it a couple days before launch day(game stop) and I haven't had any problems with it at all, the new batches will have almost none of the reported problems except GPS but I love it, its great for browsing and movies
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I shade one of the first batches as I got it a couple days before launch day(game stop) and I haven't had any problems with it at all, the new batches will have almost none of the reported problems except GPS but I love it, its great for browsing and movies
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Talking about GPS . I havnt use it and never checked lol I am gonig to check see if mine is ok
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Talking about GPS . I havnt use it and never checked lol I am gonig to check see if mine is ok
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Please let us know how it's working.
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Please let us know how it's working.
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Hi
Yes working with no problems on my device.
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I got mine 1 week ago in Germany, got a C20 serial, and it works perfectly, the GPS is not the best one i have used but does works. Locks relative fast to 10 sat's with no wifi.
Wifi is fast, i get all my 32mb internet speed while testing with Speedtest.net, Bluetooth works wonders.
While using BT a2dp and wifi my internet does get slow but the connection never drops.
Screen quality is amazing and using EZOverclock increased the Performance speed to 1.6ghz making video and gaming experience really good.
I'm very happy with my transformer, I'd buy it again without even thinking.
Edit: video and gaming was perfect even before OC, i just wanted the extra power ^^
It has been a great experience for me. I have no problems with my device. It has nice feel about it and your hands will seldom get tired of holding it with extended use. The battery just keeps going and going.
Mine has also been great and is an early one. Everything works fine and even got gps locks the one time I tested it, haven't needed it since so it has been off for months. Wifi is fine on it so have absolutely no complaints, I really enjoy it.
get it! lol. had my prime since 12/22 and hasn't let me down yet. been using it nonstop. I came fro IOS/Ipad to the prime. The difference in speed, power, and everything is night n day better than my Ipad. if you get one now, chances very slim to get one with issues some experienced. its more than worth it. I'm still amazed at how well mines work and how thin and light this tablet is. plus the battery lasts long as a mofo.
Get it, its a great device I'm really pleased with mine. No issues with it although this is number 3. First 2 had bright spots on the screen when using a white background so make sure u check the screen very closely right away
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I'm really pleased with my Prime. I do get the occasional browser stutter but, apart from that, performance has been fine. I would say that it seemed more reliable once I took Chrome off and re-installed Flash (but this may just be coincidence!). GPS performance is the same as for other people i.e. iffy at best!
Only complaints from me are stock browser stutter, WiFi performance drops off considerably if I use my PS3 controller via BT at the same time, and screen glare (this thing is shiny)!
So I just use another browser besides stock, and use the controller with games that don't need WiFi, or if they do, I switch to my Logitech usb controller.
I've had mine for about 3 weeks, and just had a random reboot last night. I'm completely fine with that, my iPad 2 had a few random reboots in it's time as well.
I installed an anti-glare screen, which works fine.
The keyboard dock is great..!
The only issues I've had with my tablet were caused from unstable custom ROMs like CM9 KANG and AOKP Milestone 4. I'm currently running stock and haven't had any issues. I'll be waiting until an official build of AOKP or CM9 comes to the Prime before switching back away from stock.
paleman27 said:
Hi guys,
I went to Best Buy yesterday and got to try your Asus Prime. Wow! I was impress by the speed and the Ics. I was gonna buy it but they freshed out.
However, I did some reading on your Q&A add I see that the little ***** is giving you some trouble. Is it that bad, is it happening to everybody? I currently own a gtb 7510. Is not bad. I have a custom rom Task14 and oc'd to 1.4 with petshoots kernel. Still, the Asus is pretty impressive with its speed is very responsive and the display is beautifull.
Gtap is ok but its still not @ par with the ipad2. I think the asus prime (the one I tried) does size up to the ipad3.
So, is everyone here having issues with the ATP?
Thank you.
Edit- I'm asking all this because I'm still on time to return my gtab.
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The issues with the Prime are fairly overblown.
Most people don't have a single complaint with regards to their Prime. The vast majority of people who come to XDA looking to talk about the Prime are people who are having some kind of issue they want to resolve and aren't really representative of the overall community or Prime owners.
My experience is that WiFi is just fine. Nearly as good as my Windows laptop and better than my Galaxy S2 phone. It even works well when I am streaming music to a set of Bluetooth headphones.
I have a very slight light bleed in one corner that is only noticeable on the boot screen. However compared to my Dell laptop the light bleed would probably be considered non-existent. Viewing angles, color, saturation etc are all very good.
GPS doesn't work for Navigation which is why Asus removed it from the feature list, however it works perfectly fine for location-based services like Search.
In general there is nothing to complain about. The Prime is very good product and it has basically replaced my laptop as my go-to device for web browsing, email and light office work. If you combine it with the keyboard dock it is an even more useful device and battery life is stellar when compared to any similar laptop/tablet.
I honestly believe that the Prime is one of the best and most useful tablet devices available right now. The only reason that I might want to wait on purchasing it is to see what the TF Infinity will be like. The TF Infinity should be nearly identical to the Prime, but will have a better screen and possible better GPS. It will also cost $100 more.
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The issues with the Prime are fairly
I honestly believe that the Prime is one of the best and most useful tablet devices available right now. The only reason that I might want to wait on purchasing it is to see what the TF Infinity will be like. The TF Infinity should be nearly identical to the Prime, but will have a better screen and possible better GPS. It will also cost $100 more.
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lol..
You have to remember that the people complaining are a small fraction of the total userbase.
The problem with internet ratings is that when you have a problem, you'll be dam sure to look it up and post in the appropriate forum, blog, website.. whatever.
If you have no issue, why would you bother to look for the websites?
My prime is awesome, no issues whatsoever.
I'm only here because I happen to develop some minor stuff for another device on Android and now own a prime. but I'm the small percentage saying this thing rocks.
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No matter which XDA Device thread you read, you will be scared to hell. I mean if I would have a problem with my TFP I would post here, because there are tons of competent people around here.
Never fix your buy-decision on the xda threads of the device. I was happy with the last 3-4 phones I've had, but when I check the xda forums for them it seems like I'm the only one who was happy at all
Hello , i think to buy the prime but i have some quesntions .
1) whats the different between c2 and c3? in my country i found only c2
2) should i wait for t700? i dont need gps , i dont play games , just the wifi problem is the issue i dont buy it know
ill use it only home (big house 3 floors)
Thanks!
According to those with C3s and some ASUS representatives the C3s have substantially better WiFi than the previous Primes.
i have a c3, no wifi problems whatsoever..
gps still very bad..
Isn't that a bummer :-(
I have a c20 which has a better wifi and gps than my previously owned c10... but what about now... sad... just plain sad. The product needed four months of production to finally get better
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why there are no custom roms? like cm9 etc?
thanks
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The product needed four months of production to finally get better
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I have a C1 that is perfect (wifi is very good and gps works) and i know of at least one person with a B0 that has no issues either.
I have C2 here and have no issues with Wi-Fi or GPS...I guess it's just the luck of the draw.
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why there are no custom roms? like cm9 etc?
thanks
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there are .. you are in the wrong forum and wrong thread (look in development area )
My prime is great around the router. It's just bad @ certain areas around the house when its near -70dbm. My other wi-fi devices are also bad @ these areas but the prime takes it to a new level. So the question is how do I fix this.
I'm not much of a tinkerer and I mostly use my Prime @ home. Away from home my Galaxy Nexus tethered to it is absobloodylutely superb. So since my problem is more of a home issue, I went ahead and used an old linksys router w/dd-wrt firmware and turned it into a repeater bridge. Now while it did work for our desktop w/ethernet it didn't perform too admirably with wi-fi devices. It was just too weak. In the end I just bought this here baby:
http://www.amazon.com/Amped-Wireles...0000/dp/B005UBNGY6/ref=cm_pdp_rev_itm_title_2
Okay, it might be overkill but hell yes did it fix my wi-fi issue @ home & backyard like a boss when BBQ'ing lol. Using a C3 while never using any earlier iterations of the prime so can't compare between wi-fi.
Saw this one too though but not much of a traveler/hotel person but may be great for those individuals =)
http://www.asus.com/Networks/Wireless_Routers/WL330N3G/
i saw it , but its not popular like roms on galaxy s II or other devices
why ?
abovebeyondgal said:
i saw it , but its not popular like roms on galaxy s II or other devices
why ?
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i think because prime sales are suffering from the bad reputation and low producion rates...
just install AOPK from jermaine, no need for other roms!
ot: atm i'm using my c3 prime outdoors right now, 3 walls and window between router and me , aprox 20 meters, surfing goes well, streaming video is quite impossible.
Tempie007 said:
i have a c3, no wifi problems whatsoever..
gps still very bad..
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Are you sure that C3 has GPS on board ?
I have a C2... recently purchased from BestBuy... no issues with WiFi... as good as my laptop and Galaxy Nexus... granted GPS is not great, but it does work most of the time when I'm outside...
Another C3 here with good Wi-Fi and GPS performance, even indoors. There's just a limit to how well a low power GPS transmission can be received through multiple walls.
Many phones running GPS indoors are actually triangulating using cell tower signals much of the time, and I find Google Maps is often positioning me through the BSSID of the Wi-Fi AP's it sees instead of through any GPS lock.
That said, I second the endorsement for using a $20 AP (running DD-WRT firmware in repeater mode) to cover blind spots for any Wi-Fi devices. Not as good as the high power options, but they're cheap, only require AC, and are easy to put up.
I have a C2 and getting great (or satisfactory for me) WiFi performance. Could care less about GPS on a tablet. When I'm driving I'd rather be navigating with my phone and not a big tablet that provides a distraction from driving. To me too much is made about the GPS. WiFi issues are a more serious concern in everyday use.
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Pecata said:
I have C2 here and have no issues with Wi-Fi or GPS...I guess it's just the luck of the draw.
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My.c2 wifi is on par with my HD2. Perfectly acceptable.
Indoor GPS locked on to 8.. and saw 11 satellites.
I have a BB from early December and my WiFi works perfectly, even when using Bluetooth for audio streaming. GPS is next to useless but I don't need it anyway (and they are releasing that new dongle).
While the C3's might have a lower chance of manufacturing defect, I don't think that they are any different hardware-wise from the C2 and earlier Primes.
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I have C2 here and have no issues with Wi-Fi or GPS...I guess it's just the luck of the draw.
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It is, doesn't seem that there's any difference with the C3, several users posting their C3 had issues just at the top and in the bt/wifi fallout thread. Looks like you still got to get lucky to get a good one
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It is, doesn't seem that there's any difference with the C3, several users posting their C3 had issues just at the top and in the bt/wifi fallout thread. Looks like you still got to get lucky to get a good one
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I think its been like this from the beginning... There are a small % of primes that have issues, no matter what Serial. Thats the way it is with complex electronic devices
If it was a small %.. there would be a lot more happy posts around this place and the internet in general.. Just sayin.
Good evenig guys i have the following question. I started studying now and i want to have a tablet for it . Now i have seen the transformer Prime and i like it very much but i also ready the GPS and Wifi issues. To be honest, i'll will never use my Prime for Navigation, i have my Samsung Galaxy S2 for this so i dont give a f*uck for GPS. The only Problem for me is Wifi. Are the newer ones now without Wifi problems because a Tablet without working Wifi would sucks realy hard.
I can chose between the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 N and the Prime and i realy would like to chose the Prime
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I can chose between the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 N and the Prime and i realy would like to chose the Prime
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Sorry, and i don't mean this in a bad way, but like you said you really would like to choose the Prime...then what's really the point of this thread?
There are so many comparison threads out there...just look.
My only suggestion, is to just wait for the Infinity.
The thing is that i don't want to have an tablet with Wifi problems, i want a tablet that works fine without hours of troubleshooting. Why shall i wait for the infinity ? Is it so much better ?
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The thing is that i don't want to have an tablet with Wifi problems, i want a tablet that works fine without hours of troubleshooting. Why shall i wait for the infinity ? Is it so much better ?
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As of newer primes i dont think there is much problem with wifi...then again it is all luck as i can gather from reading in the forums...even if you dont care for gps there is a gps dongle provided by asus with the prime...
As far as Infinity goes...it is still not out so who knows what the device would be like...and i guess it ll be a bit expensive than prime owing to improved screen pixel density and other stuff...there is always a chance that devices so complex would not be at par with high expectations we hold...(tf201 and ipad3 for example)
and apart from that i can feel your itch to buy this beauty...
yeah its is realy a beauty. Like i said if Wifi works fully then i would buy it in an instant. But now i have to read like 10000000 to see what i do
WiFi works...its just not as strong as it should be. If you didn't know, it is due to the metal framing.
and if you say not as strong as it should be you mean like what ?....
70 % from 100 ?
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and if you say not as strong as it should be you mean like what ?....
70 % from 100 ?
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Can't really give you an exact number...but here's an example: my ps3 shows 80% connection strength, my laptop shows maybe about the same, but my Prime would only show about 30%. And my router is located downstairs.
Hi there,
Let me tell you something... this is the best android tablet, period.
the new ipad is also a good choice but take this example: right now I'm playing Super mario 64 in my prime using a xbox 360 controller. Yesterday I was watching a movie using the tablet and my 1 tb WD passport. This tablet lets you do stuff you can't with other devices... so is your decision.
good luck!
just read the positive transformer thread in my signature and then buy a prime..lmfao
My prime's Wifi works okay, it always has a weaker connection than other devices such as my iPod Touch and Laptop, but its not very noticeable.
From experience using it at my university which is known for having a terrible wireless network that gets really slow and can be very hard to connect to, I've had no more trouble connecting to the wireless network with my Prime than my other devices. Before the semester started I was really worried (after reading all the posts about wifi) about not being able to connect to the wireless network but its been working fine all semester.
Not on a single occasion have I ever seen my TFP not have a connection when my Galaxy Nexus did, so I sometimes wonder how often the wifi issues actually manifest in normal settings--and I work all over my Uni's campus and never had any problems.
That said though, make sure you know what you're getting into if you're going to use the TFP as a laptop replacement. It can't do many of the things that students in technical/scientific fields will need to do, and of the things it can do, it does a pretty bad job at many (web browsing is painfully slow if you need to do any sort of research--almost always slower than my Galaxy Nexus, and spreadsheets/presentations are gimped out to the point where they're useless in many applications). It doesn't play particularly well with eLearning either.
There are really no problems with wifi performance...it is a subjective matter...if anyway you want to use wifi in places with awfully bleak signal...i suggest you get this modem with loads of feature one useful thing being able to act as universal repeater to boost wifi signal...if you are unsatisfied with performance which i dont think you will be...
http://www.amazon.com/MB-1112-Recha...kberry/dp/B004LYRPOK/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
http://www.sapido.in/productmb1112k.htm
The prime can do a lot... You probably won't be making power points and multitasking could be annoying if you constantly have to switch between two things. For the same price you could build a fairly decent linux box.
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Frankly, most campuses have wifi coverage over the entire campus. I know Notre Dame has wifi coverage even on all of their lawns that students lay on. I have never experienced poor enough wifi reception where it became an issue, and the issue you'll run in to far more often (whenever you're on campus) is that the bandwidth that's being sucked up by everyone will slow the internet down more than a poor wifi connection ever will.
That being said, I use my Prime to read all but one of my textbooks on. If you plan to take this much cheaper route, then I would wait for the Infinity. It is completely inarguable that a higher resolution screen wouldn't be better for reading, especially if you're going to be doing extended session of reading like you would for school.