Good evenig guys i have the following question. I started studying now and i want to have a tablet for it . Now i have seen the transformer Prime and i like it very much but i also ready the GPS and Wifi issues. To be honest, i'll will never use my Prime for Navigation, i have my Samsung Galaxy S2 for this so i dont give a f*uck for GPS. The only Problem for me is Wifi. Are the newer ones now without Wifi problems because a Tablet without working Wifi would sucks realy hard.
I can chose between the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 N and the Prime and i realy would like to chose the Prime
braxas said:
I can chose between the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 N and the Prime and i realy would like to chose the Prime
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Sorry, and i don't mean this in a bad way, but like you said you really would like to choose the Prime...then what's really the point of this thread?
There are so many comparison threads out there...just look.
My only suggestion, is to just wait for the Infinity.
The thing is that i don't want to have an tablet with Wifi problems, i want a tablet that works fine without hours of troubleshooting. Why shall i wait for the infinity ? Is it so much better ?
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The thing is that i don't want to have an tablet with Wifi problems, i want a tablet that works fine without hours of troubleshooting. Why shall i wait for the infinity ? Is it so much better ?
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As of newer primes i dont think there is much problem with wifi...then again it is all luck as i can gather from reading in the forums...even if you dont care for gps there is a gps dongle provided by asus with the prime...
As far as Infinity goes...it is still not out so who knows what the device would be like...and i guess it ll be a bit expensive than prime owing to improved screen pixel density and other stuff...there is always a chance that devices so complex would not be at par with high expectations we hold...(tf201 and ipad3 for example)
and apart from that i can feel your itch to buy this beauty...
yeah its is realy a beauty. Like i said if Wifi works fully then i would buy it in an instant. But now i have to read like 10000000 to see what i do
WiFi works...its just not as strong as it should be. If you didn't know, it is due to the metal framing.
and if you say not as strong as it should be you mean like what ?....
70 % from 100 ?
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and if you say not as strong as it should be you mean like what ?....
70 % from 100 ?
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Can't really give you an exact number...but here's an example: my ps3 shows 80% connection strength, my laptop shows maybe about the same, but my Prime would only show about 30%. And my router is located downstairs.
Hi there,
Let me tell you something... this is the best android tablet, period.
the new ipad is also a good choice but take this example: right now I'm playing Super mario 64 in my prime using a xbox 360 controller. Yesterday I was watching a movie using the tablet and my 1 tb WD passport. This tablet lets you do stuff you can't with other devices... so is your decision.
good luck!
just read the positive transformer thread in my signature and then buy a prime..lmfao
My prime's Wifi works okay, it always has a weaker connection than other devices such as my iPod Touch and Laptop, but its not very noticeable.
From experience using it at my university which is known for having a terrible wireless network that gets really slow and can be very hard to connect to, I've had no more trouble connecting to the wireless network with my Prime than my other devices. Before the semester started I was really worried (after reading all the posts about wifi) about not being able to connect to the wireless network but its been working fine all semester.
Not on a single occasion have I ever seen my TFP not have a connection when my Galaxy Nexus did, so I sometimes wonder how often the wifi issues actually manifest in normal settings--and I work all over my Uni's campus and never had any problems.
That said though, make sure you know what you're getting into if you're going to use the TFP as a laptop replacement. It can't do many of the things that students in technical/scientific fields will need to do, and of the things it can do, it does a pretty bad job at many (web browsing is painfully slow if you need to do any sort of research--almost always slower than my Galaxy Nexus, and spreadsheets/presentations are gimped out to the point where they're useless in many applications). It doesn't play particularly well with eLearning either.
There are really no problems with wifi performance...it is a subjective matter...if anyway you want to use wifi in places with awfully bleak signal...i suggest you get this modem with loads of feature one useful thing being able to act as universal repeater to boost wifi signal...if you are unsatisfied with performance which i dont think you will be...
http://www.amazon.com/MB-1112-Recha...kberry/dp/B004LYRPOK/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
http://www.sapido.in/productmb1112k.htm
The prime can do a lot... You probably won't be making power points and multitasking could be annoying if you constantly have to switch between two things. For the same price you could build a fairly decent linux box.
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Frankly, most campuses have wifi coverage over the entire campus. I know Notre Dame has wifi coverage even on all of their lawns that students lay on. I have never experienced poor enough wifi reception where it became an issue, and the issue you'll run in to far more often (whenever you're on campus) is that the bandwidth that's being sucked up by everyone will slow the internet down more than a poor wifi connection ever will.
That being said, I use my Prime to read all but one of my textbooks on. If you plan to take this much cheaper route, then I would wait for the Infinity. It is completely inarguable that a higher resolution screen wouldn't be better for reading, especially if you're going to be doing extended session of reading like you would for school.
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This is the first tablet I have purchased but not the first one I have used and I bought it to accompany my Samsung Galaxy S2 and my iPhone but I must confess I am not a big Apple fan.
Why am I happy?
I have a Quad Core tablet
It's shiny and new
It isn't an iPad
loving the keyboard
generally works quite well
Why am I unhappy?
GPS - I wanted fully functional GPS
Exporting video in Movie STudio it causes the TFP to reboot.
Many applicaton crashes including google apps
in hindsight i should of waited for a 3g model
Im hoping ics will be the answer to my prayers and asus provide a 3g add on module but time will tell.
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This is the first tablet I have purchased but not the first one I have used and I bought it to accompany my Samsung Galaxy S2 and my iPhone but I must confess I am not a big Apple fan.
Why am I happy?
I have a Quad Core tablet
It's shiny and new
It isn't an iPad
loving the keyboard
generally works quite well
Why am I unhappy?
GPS - I wanted fully functional GPS
Exporting video in Movie STudio it causes the TFP to reboot.
Many applicaton crashes including google apps
in hindsight i should of waited for a 3g model
Im hoping ics will be the answer to my prayers and asus provide a 3g add on module but time will tell.
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I think there are 10's of threads you could have added your opinion to. But, that said, I think if you're hoping for ICS to magically make the Prime a better option for you, you're going to be disappointed. And I'd not hold out for a "3g add on module"--the 3G version of the Prime will be a completely new, redesigned device.
Sounds like you should return your Prime and wait for something that better meets your needs. And just for the record, I only have one app that routinely crashes on my Prime, and it's problematic on other Honeycomb tablets as well. Otherwise, I've found the Prime to be remarkably stable.
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This is the first tablet I have purchased but not the first one I have used and I bought it to accompany my Samsung Galaxy S2 and my iPhone but I must confess I am not a big Apple fan.
Why am I happy?
I have a Quad Core tablet
It's shiny and new
It isn't an iPad
loving the keyboard
generally works quite well
Why am I unhappy?
GPS - I wanted fully functional GPS
Exporting video in Movie STudio it causes the TFP to reboot.
Many applicaton crashes including google apps
in hindsight i should of waited for a 3g model
Im hoping ics will be the answer to my prayers and asus provide a 3g add on module but time will tell.
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ASUS seriously should have waited for ICS until they sold the Prime. The above post is the perfect example of what happens if you rush a generally super nice device with totally crappy software on it...
@OP: Iam sure you will be less sad with ICS
I'm still hoping that Asus will come up with a plastic window solution like the Ipad for its gps problem, they can easily retool the case and fab the plastic insert.
As far as apps go, its not Prime fault. those apps need updating from developers that made them. Google earth works perfectly now as it was just updated the other day. as far as that movie studio goes, I had the same thing happen. I don't like it really. So you can't fault the device from a software standpoint. because that always can be improved. Plus you can expect alot of apps not to be working in ICS because not all apps updated yet to support it. The apps are getting there but alot still out there that needs ICS support.
The GPS issue I can understand. You can bet though that 3g version will be at a minimum $100 more plus you will be tied into a massive data plan which requires a premium extra fee because its a tablet. Prime is still a Good choice. even without GPS working.
I've had my for three days now. I'm deciding if I'm going to return mine or not.
Pros:
Screen and brightness is second to none. Super IPS actually hurts my eyes. Marvelous.
Wifi works fine for me. Mostly like my OG ipad
Camera quality is great. Video and pictures great.
Games like Riptide and Madden play super.
Flash websites like HBO go.com work great compare to OG Transformer that I owned.
I like the when you correct a word it zooms in on the area without a circle.
Kind of fun to hold. So very thin.
Having 64gb thanks to my SD card
With volume+ app. Speakers very nice.
Charges fast
Battery life continues to get better
No screen lag for me when transitioning.
ICS coming soon.
Cons:
GPS is brutally awful. Not sure if its a deal breaker.
Bluetooth and wifi don't work together like they should.
Lack of accessories.
Do I feel this is better than the first TF (owned for 6 months)? Yes.
Is it better than the current tablets now out (including I pad 2 wifi to wifi)? Yes.
Will this be the Blackberry Playbook of 2012 (considering major flaws for some)? Decisions. The last thing I want to see in a couple months is TF Prime for 299.00 at BB.
This thing is going for a premium on EBay right now as well.
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I know it might be a matter of, "It's a functionality that should work, end of story..."
But can I ask you what your personal use for GPS is in your particular case? I had a Samsung GT10.1 for 8 months and I used the gps maybe three times. And even then it was locked onto a signal fairly quickly because the used the auto assist wifi signal, and I cannot fathom a usage instance that requires gps without wifi.
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ASUS seriously should have waited for ICS until they sold the Prime. The above post is the perfect example of what happens if you rush a generally super nice device with totally crappy software on it...
@OP: Iam sure you will be less sad with ICS
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I'm sure there are voices on both sides
release first then ice, or wait for pics then release.
for all Ive heard before the release were come on, just release it already, pics, hc I don't care.
and not everyone start saying they should wait till pics to release it. tough crowd
It's the current battle of selling points with iCS, gps and 3/4g being the main contenders. Any new tablet that does not feature these will suffer from lackluster sales, imo.
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I know it might be a matter of, "It's a functionality that should work, end of story..."
But can I ask you what your personal use for GPS is in your particular case? I had a Samsung GT10.1 for 8 months and I used the gps maybe three times. And even then it was locked onto a signal fairly quickly because the used the auto assist wifi signal, and I cannot fathom a usage instance that requires gps without wifi.
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I bought this as a work device/toy. At the moment I don't know what I want to use GPS for but I just want my tablet to do what it says it should do on the tin. I don't like Apple but they seem to have set the bar really high and the iPad pretty much does what it says it will do.
I understand what you are saying and it may turn out that I never need it but I paid for it and would at least like the choice to not use it rather than not use it because of an Asus major design flaw.
To add to the list of cons it reboots every morning whether it has been charged or not.
Why wasn't this added to the rest of the gripe threads? Nothing stated here that hadn't already been a rebeating of the dust that used to be the skeleton of the dead horse.
I think we all get it. People always strive to get somethng, then when they get it, they want more.. some more than others.
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Course charting in a boat using Navionics software for one. Saved me thousands on a marine gps unit and I'm using a very old Ipad for it now.
I don't expect everyone would do this, but Come'on these statements like, "I never used gps so I don't know why anyone else would", just expose your lack of imagination.
my 2 cents:
Of the 3 tablets I now own...the tf101, ipad 1, and the prime...the prime easily wins the day. Its the best tablet I have ever used.
There are a few niggles.
1. The tf101 has the best wifi of the three. The prime and the ipad 1 score exactly the same in my testing for wifi performance....which is good enough for me. Not sure why people are griping about wifi so much while mine is par or better than the ipad 1...at 50+ feet and 4 walls from my router I still get 3-4 Mbps. Netflix, etc streams beautifully from the farthest corners in my house.
I don't often bother with bluetooth on my android tablets so I have yet to test this.
2. I rarely use my tablets for GPS so this is not a deal breaker for me. I have an offline GPS system anyway that does not require live data connection which I prefer on the road. I have yet to test the prime GPS...right now GMAPS snaps up my location using IP address I imagine.
After that this tablet plays high profile 1080p mkv files both from my network and from the sdcard without a hitch, has a GORGEOUS display, slim, light, has great battery life and runs honeycomb better than any tablet out there (I've fiddled with just about all of them). ICS will be the icing on the cake.
Sometimes these forums can turn us into quibblers. I never would have noticed the issues raised here on my typical usage of the prime or any of my tablets. For example, I never knew the TF101 has such great wifi performance compared to the Ipad 1 until I tested it because of this forum. The ipad always seemed just fine to me and so does the prime....and really thats all that matters.
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I bought this as a work device/toy. At the moment I don't know what I want to use GPS for but I just want my tablet to do what it says it should do on the tin. I don't like Apple but they seem to have set the bar really high and the iPad pretty much does what it says it will do.
I understand what you are saying and it may turn out that I never need it but I paid for it and would at least like the choice to not use it rather than not use it because of an Asus major design flaw.
To add to the list of cons it reboots every morning whether it has been charged or not.
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In all likelihood it sounds as if the assisted GPS will serve your purposes just fine then. I really do not understand why anyone thought this tablet was going to be a Garmin. I also thought (and suppose I am or could be worng), that this was always advertised as aGPS. GPS does work when it is assisted by wifi, and it works pretty well when it's not. I wouldn't rely on it to drive, but I don't know why anyone would rely on anything other than a dedicated GPS to navigate - I certainly never take off on my bicycle to place unknown with just my phone, I always have my Garmin. If someone needs to navigate then they need to buy a dangerous Garmin and not think they "Got lucky" and scored a $500 tablet that allows included a real GPS that costs at least $100+ app on it's own.
Anyway.....the rebooting thing sounds like a real pain.. Mine has never reboot randomly. You say it happens in the morning, and I wonder what the culprit could Be? Are you powering it up and then it reboots or waking it Up? I wonder if it's an app.
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Anyway.....the rebooting thing sounds like a real pain.. Mine has never reboot randomly. You say it happens in the morning, and I wonder what the culprit could Be? Are you powering it up and then it reboots or waking it Up? I wonder if it's an app.
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It reboots after waking up. I have no plans to give up on the TFP at the moment and I' will persist to iron out as much as I can. I will post any findings.
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Course charting in a boat using Navionics software for one. Saved me thousands on a marine gps unit and I'm using a very old Ipad for it now.
I don't expect everyone would do this, but Come'on these statements like, "I never used gps so I don't know why anyone else would", just expose your lack of imagination.
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I am going to use marine apps as well. Do you guys think if you have a GPS lock the Prime will keep it because the speed of a sailboat is not too fast?
Accuracy doesn`t really matter.
My phone with google navigation is perfect as a GPS, I don't need something four times bigger that won't ever fit anywhere on my car and won't charge on the car adaptator.
aGPS is more than enough for me.
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It reboots after waking up. I have no plans to give up on the TFP at the moment and I' will persist to iron out as much as I can. I will post any findings.
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sounds like an app issue, did you notice it happening after installing anything in particular?
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I am going to use marine apps as well. Do you guys think if you have a GPS lock the Prime will keep it because the speed of a sailboat is not too fast?
Accuracy doesn`t really matter.
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Maybe you will have better luck than me. But, my Prime couldn't keep a lock, motionless, in the same orientation and location. The GPS just seemed to lose everything and started searching again, for no reason. That was a deal killer for me. If Asus had offered to fix this one problem, it would have been a real keeper! Instead the way they handled it just made me lose all confidence in their ability to support a quality product.
Be prepared to hear that you shouldn't expect GPS to work but that's no problem, and why would you want to use it on a tablet anyway? It would appear that most happy Prime users don't get out much or realize that an automobile is not the only use for GPS!
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sounds like an app issue, did you notice it happening after installing anything in particular?
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By the time I got round to editing and exporting a movie I had already installed all my fav appz. I'll start first with removing the MXvideo player
I am looking to buy the Prime as it was offered as a birthday present, and on the 12th we were set to pick it up but I was warned that there were serious WiFi and Bluetooth problems as well as the original GPS issues. I want it for general use such as browsing, playing games, a bit of word processing and mainly because I just want a tablet. I was offered an iPad 2 as a second option but much prefer everythif about the Prime. I have read Amazon.com reviews and they haven't mentioned Bluetooth issues just the wifi and said it was better than some people say it supposedly is? I was just looking for general pointers including positives and negatives on the Prime Tablet (TF201) and wondering how bad the actual wifi is and if a wifi signal booster on the router at home would solve the issue?
Any help would be much appreciated
Yes you should buy it there is zero problems with any of the Primes ignore any threads that might say otherwise people are just complaining to see themselves type.
I say it is a good buy. My wifi works fine at home and work which are the only places I have tried it. I have only tested Bluetooth and wifi concurrently with a Bluetooth controller and had no issues with either. The wifi on my prime is better than my Droid charge's wifi in fact.
As far as GPS is concerned, I can get locks without wifi though the accuracy is poor compared to my phone, Garmin handheld, and Garmin navigation devices. I have not tested the GPS at any higher rated of speed or over more distance than walking in my front yard so also can't comment on its use for navigational purposes.
I am happy with my prime and have no remorse about the purchase.
Yes, unlike all the people complaining here.... I have found it to be very nice haven't had any issues yet!
Be warned that a good percent of the tablets are defected by some sort of issue. In my case, the WiFi wouldn't work at all but Best Buy is now doing a swapping program for the tablet. I am so happy Best Buy is doing this for me
Be aware that Asus removed the gps from the specs, the metal backplate also affects wifi and bluetooth to a lesser extent. If possible ask for a demo of the features before you buy it.
Buy it! The progress with root and overclocking without even the unlocked bootloader has been amazing. I think we're in for a really awesome, dev-friendly tablet. Don't miss it!
If you don't need reliable GPS and can stay reasonably close to your AP then yes, it is a good choice. But if you want those things then wait and get the 700 which appears to be what we thought we were getting in the first place.
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Yes. Absolutely. Just get one that works. I'm ROCKING Out quad core 1600mhz!!!!
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Yes you should buy it there is zero problems with any of the Primes ignore any threads that might say otherwise people are just complaining to see themselves type.
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Now that's not true is it?
I say go ahead and get it, unless the GPS is a big thing to you
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Yes you should buy it there is zero problems with any of the Primes ignore any threads that might say otherwise people are just complaining to see themselves type.
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You forgot the /sarcasm tag at the end.
Reality check: The problems are not as widespread as one might think after looking at the forums here but there is a substantial percentage of chance that you might run into one of several problems. This, ignoring the Wi-Fi and GPS ones, which may or may not be a problem for you depending on your hardware setup around the house and need for a navigation enabled tablet.
It is truly a great product, but there are times when the software does hickup. That is nothing to worry about, because ICS is brand new and is only like 4 devices (officially). Plus we are getting unlocked bootloaders and then will be able to do some pretty amazing things. Ironically, we still can do amazing things, due to having root and being able to overclock. With time software issues will be fixed, as ICS only became available over the air updating 2 days ago. It will be perfect within a month or so.
The magic 8 ball says : too early to tell
Its personal preference, do you ride gnarly wave that's the cutting edge tech of android and have these sort of growing pains or do you play it safe and go with a solid proven device that won't play with any of your files without hacking it , not to mention you selling your soul to a single manufacturer if you go Apple..
That said I'm happy with mine and have little issues and feel my tablet will be future proof for a bit longer then what else is on the market, if you go with the prime prepare yourself for an exchange it seems to be 50/50 on getting a good one and from what i can see here is the people who managed to get good ones love em,myself included , take it FWIW...
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Hey guys,
it's me and my german Prime again. I want to share some of my impressions and findings with the ICS upgrade after some days of use.
First lets think again about the issues I had with HC:
Wifi range was worse than other devices (speed was way better btw)
HDMI screen mirroring was cut at the bottom
HDMI audio was only on the left channel
GPS not working at all (barely one single satellite)
Boottimes were horribly long (2 minutes or longer)
Bluetooth + Wifi lead to massive bandwidth drops
Touchpad was kinda crappy (two finger scrolling in mouse mode)
Okay, all these issues weren't really any kind of deal breaker for me, I really enjoyed my Prime since the .33 update (before the .33 the touchscreen really sucked)
I got (as I expected) my update somewhere around 8 PM PST on January 11.
The updated installed without any problems in about 10 minutes.
After ICS booted up I did a full wipe to ensure I have as less problems as possible.
Now lets talk again about the pre-ICS issues:
Wifi: Pre-ICS I was not able to connect to my home network due to the Prime not seeing it all. (Range issue)
This is now fixed with ICS. So in fact this means the Wifi range is better now (at least for me). The connection is also a bit more stable.
Both HDMI errors are gone now. Playing 720p and 1080p mkv files with DTS or AC3 sound works perfectly with Diceplayer.
Not a single issue anymore
Touchpad performance is way better now.
I can actually use the mouse mode now for scrolling etc. Nice!
Boottime almost halfed for me. It boots up way faster now.
Wasn't a big issue before, but nice to see they are making improvements here.
As several member here pointed out, the Bluetooth Wifi issue is not a Prime specific issue.
Every single other device I tested had exactly the same problem. No matter if a Desire, Desire HD, Lumia 800, even my Laptop to some extend...
So this "issue" is a non issue for me.
Now to the GPS part: (Please note that this issue is a non issue for me too, I don't care for my tablets GPS, it's only that I want everything to work).
It's actually too cold outside to test the GPS more than two minutes, but after this time I still can't see a single satellite...
So far I never had any kind of GPS lock with my Prime. I am not sure if it just needs more time...
I will test that later.
I tested the GPS for several hours now (actually I just put the thing outside under clear sky and let it rest there for some hours)
It searched constantly for GPS satellites using the "GPS Status" app and didn't find a single satellite. Not even one.
The only reason why I think I don't have a broken GPS chip/antenna is that I saw one satellite back in HC times...
Since then not a single satellite anymore. (Wifi on/off didn't make any difference btw)
As said above, I don't really care, so this totally faulty GPS (it really just doesn't show anything) is a really good point to return it some time later to get maybe a completely new one
I've found also several non-issue related things:
ICS just looks beautiful
Damn ICS is fast! Everything is just that important bit faster than HC. (not that HC was really slow, but ICS is just noticable faster)
The ASUS taskmanager widget just does not work at all.
It just shuts down as soon as you add it to your homescreen. That's a bit embarassing
Some other facts and information:
Do you know about the "Deactivate app" feature? (Settings->Apps->Click on single app) It's awesome!
You can deactivate (like freeze in titanium) almost every app on the prime. Even the system apps.
I deativated quite a bunch of them (about 20) and the system feels even faster now
I just tested my PS3 controller on the Prime. The native (via USB cable) support works quite well for GTA3 or Shadowgun.
Unfortunately the "Sixaxis" app is not completely compatible yet, touchprofiles won't work at all.
The dev already promised a fixed version for next week
The browser performance is really nice No lagging or skipping
After some fiddling around finally browser sync with chrome works too That's really cool! (I needed to delete chromes bookmark data first in google's dashboard, then resync my local chrome. After that the syncing to the Prime worked perfectly.)
So all in all I am super happy with the ICS update. There's still room for improvement, but ICS really made my Prime the device it should have been since the beginning.
My experience with my (DE SKU) Prime is almost the same. Though I had no WiFi issues prior to ICS.
I've only had mine since monday, so I only had 3 days to play with HC before ICS. But even I feel the difference. Everything is just smoother and more responsive. Especially the web browser. And it will actually sync your Chrome bookmarks now. Yay!
I'm exceptionally happy with my device. I bought it to keep me entertained with movies and games during my 2 hours of commuting every day. So far it's been too much fun to play with to get any gaming or movie watching done.
And I'm not sure if it's because my battery is being broken in, but I feel my battery life has gone up since ICS also.
But yes, Asus Taskmanager seems to be broken for me also. Chrashes as soon as it starts. That's the only negative thing I've seen since the ICS upgrade.
This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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well, my prime actually picked up my university's wifi network and had a pretty good signal while my galaxy s2 struggled to even connect. at home, the prime is just a tad slower than my sgs2 when doing speedtests.
Hi Diamondback2010,
I got my Prime and at this moment debating if I'm going to stay with it. I'm on ICS and the issue for me is the skippy WiFi. I have a 50MB connection at home and all my other devices laptops, desktop have no issues whatsoever streaming media to tv however simply being 15ft from the router on the Prime I'm losing connection simply by browsing webpages and they take long to load. I don't have this problem even on my DHD.
For a WiFi only device WiFi is the most important aspect for me and the intended use is for traveling and connecting to different WiFi networks.
Perhaps the newer Prime would be more suitable for my needs that's coming in a few months time unless the current Prime can be made better or these issues I'm having resolved with a firmware update or something.
Also to mention I can replicate screen flickering on the Prime on ICS by using it for a while opening a dozen apps/webpages and tapping the recent items button makes the screen flicker on ICS.
This isn't very good plus the WiFi issue I might send it back, will further be testing today.
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Cernunnoz said:
This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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As much as I also love my SGS2, I've never felt it had particularly good wifi. So my Prime beats it nicely. Especially when it comes to the data flow from some distance (20-30 feet through 2 walls) where my SGS2 will have data drops using speed test, my Prime will see no such issues. And the Prime will have more than 10db better signal strength than my SGS2.
I know you asked for the GS2 or the TF101 but since I have neither of those I compared it to my HTC Wildfire which it beat quite comfortably.
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As much as I also love my SGS2, I've never felt it had particularly good wifi. So my Prime beats it nicely. Especially when it comes to the data flow from some distance (20-30 feet through 2 walls) where my SGS2 will have data drops using speed test, my Prime will see no such issues. And the Prime will have more than 10db better signal strength than my SGS2.
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That sounds great! I know the SGS2 isn't known for the best wifi, but it is good enough to get a connection where I normaly would use the prime. My TF101 is a little bit better than the SGS2. If the Prime is anywhere between those two, I will buy one! You convinced me
It doesn't release here in Norway untill the 30th, but I will get one then. We are only getting the Champagne gold one, originally I wanted the Amethyst more. Any of you got any impressions on the colors? What do you think of the champagne one?
Cernunnoz said:
This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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Hi Diamondback2010,
I got my Prime and at this moment debating if I'm going to stay with it. I'm on ICS and the issue for me is the skippy WiFi. I have a 50MB connection at home and all my other devices laptops, desktop have no issues whatsoever streaming media to tv however simply being 15ft from the router on the Prime I'm losing connection simply by browsing webpages and they take long to load. I don't have this problem even on my DHD.
For a WiFi only device WiFi is the most important aspect for me and the intended use is for traveling and connecting to different WiFi networks.
Perhaps the newer Prime would be more suitable for my needs that's coming in a few months time unless the current Prime can be made better or these issues I'm having resolved with a firmware update or something.
Also to mention I can replicate screen flickering on the Prime on ICS by using it for a while opening a dozen apps/webpages and tapping the recent items button makes the screen flicker on ICS.
This isn't very good plus the WiFi issue I might send it back, will further be testing today.
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Well I can compare it to my laptop and my Desire HD.
My laptop has a really good Wifi reception and it beats my Prime to death
But my Desire HD is a different story. The DHD does have a better range, but that is due to the fact that we (Virtuous Team, creator of the custom ROM I am running) tweaked the Wifi range way beyond stock levels, which leads to really crappy speeds at such ranges.
So in fact my Prime beats my DHD speed wise too. Only thing you really have to keep in mind, is that the Prime's connection is heavily orientation dependant. If the screen shows towards the router (or the general direction) it has quite a bit better recpetion as opposed to the backside towards the router.
I can't really replicate this with m DHD (at least not as much, DHD has Wifi antenna on the backside under a plastic RF window)
With HC I was a bit concerned about Wifi (only range, not the speed), after ICS this is gone.
One gripe is left, but this has something to do with ICS and not the Prime.
You are forced to have some kind of locking mechanism (pin, passwort, gesture) if you want to use an enterprise wifi with certificates (university network)...
That's a bit annyoing... :/
But it's the same on my Desire HD...
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Well I can compare it to my laptop and my Desire HD.
My laptop has a really good Wifi reception and it beats my Prime to death
But my Desire HD is a different story. The DHD does have a better range, but that is due to the fact that we (Virtuous Team, creator of the custom ROM I am running) tweaked the Wifi range way beyond stock levels, which leads to really crappy speeds at such ranges.
So in fact my Prime beats my DHD speed wise too. Only thing you really have to keep in mind, is that the Prime's connection is heavily orientation dependant. If the screen shows towards the router (or the general direction) it has quite a bit better recpetion as opposed to the backside towards the router.
I can't really replicate this with m DHD (at least not as much, DHD has Wifi antenna on the backside under a plastic RF window)
With HC I was a bit concerned about Wifi (only range, not the speed), after ICS this is gone.
One gripe is left, but this has something to do with ICS and not the Prime.
You are forced to have some kind of locking mechanism (pin, passwort, gesture) if you want to use an enterprise wifi with certificates (university network)...
That's a bit annyoing... :/
But it's the same on my Desire HD...
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I have just been doing some WiFi tests with my HTC Desire HD (running Virtuous Affinity) and Asus Transformer Prime and this is what I'm not happy about
I have a 50MB connection and the desktop with a direct connection is getting 49Mbps so it is a true 50Mbps connection
Now for tests sitting right next to the router which is an N-series router
On my laptop I'm getting 34Mbps
On my HTC Desire HD I'm getting 18Mbps
On the Prime I'm getting 11Mbps
Now for outside in the garden going through 2 walls about 20ft away
On my laptop I'm getting 12Mbps
On my HTC Desire HD I'm getting 6Mbps
On my Prime I'm getting 1Mbps!
I have done this several times and the figures are consistent - this shows my Prime to be under performing compared to my other devices. I would expect the Prime to perform better than the Desire HD but it doesn't.
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I'm not experiencing that at all.. Within 10 feet (or right next to) my router I get over 40Mbps down/5Mbps up (I got a 50/5Mbit connection). This is with a Linksys E4200 v1 router.
20-30 feet away (around 7-10 meters) through 2 walls, I get around 10-14Mbps down/4Mbps up. This is almost the same as my old Netbook (Asus Eee first gen). And alot better than my SGS2.
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I'm not experiencing that at all.. Within 10 feet (or right next to) my router I get over 40Mbps down/5Mbps up (I got a 50/5Mbit connection). This is with a Linksys E4200 v1 router.
20-30 feet away (around 7-10 meters) through 2 walls, I get around 10-14Mbps down/4Mbps up. This is almost the same as my old Netbook (Asus Eee first gen). And alot better than my SGS2.
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I got one of them Asus Eee pad 1000HE's from years ago too and that performs better than my Prime does with WiFi.
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I got one of them Asus Eee pad 1000HE's from years ago too and that performs better than my Prime does with WiFi.
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It's better, but only by a tiny amount.. And nothing noticable for me when I do a speedtest (2-3Mbps difference and just as stable). I have to note, that my tests are through drywall, not brick.
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It's better, but only by a tiny amount.. And nothing noticable for me when I do a speedtest (2-3Mbps difference and just as stable). I have to note, that my tests are through drywall, not brick.
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My tests were through brick house walls. Thinking about it its quite amazing that the old Asus 1000HE netbook I have running Windows 7 which I upgraded it with has better WiFi than my Asus Transformer Prime...
I got the Prime for a similar use as the 1000HE for travelling abroad where I connect to loads of WiFi networks. With that low WiFi performance on the Prime I can see I'm going to have problems.
I'm debating to send it back and waiting for the newer Prime which maybe an improvement...
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Have you tried doing a factory reset? I've seen people say that their wifi was fixed after that. Please report back if you try.
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Have you tried doing a factory reset? I've seen people say that their wifi was fixed after that. Please report back if you try.
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I haven't tried a factory reset I will try it and see what happens.
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I'd deffinatly try a factory reset if I was you, as a last resort.. Brick/drywall aside. 11Mbps right next to the router is not right unless you got some serious interference going on.
Just trying a factory reset from settings. Would that be the only reset method to reset or is there some other method with a pin?
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I believe thats the way to do it yes.. The pin is only for force rebooting the device, not a data wipe.
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I believe thats the way to do it yes.. The pin is only for force rebooting the device, not a data wipe.
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I see just doing the data wipe from settings but I see after booting up ICS is showing 4.0.3 as current installed Android version so by the looks its only wiping user data and apps.
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I currently have an ipad1 and been holding out for a tablet my options right now are prime or ipad3 i really dont believe the ipad3 is an option for me. just want feedback on the prime and your thoughts if I should wait
If the New Pad is not an option for you then thats leaves you with the asus line and a few others.
sounds like you have made up your mind already....even if you dont even know it.....
Wait until the iPad 3 benchmarks come out before making your final decision.
Go for the prime! Read the positive thread in my signature. You will make up your mind after reading it.
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I currently have an ipad1 and been holding out for a tablet my options right now are prime or ipad3 i really dont believe the ipad3 is an option for me. just want feedback on the prime and your thoughts if I should wait
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I'd revise my considerations to either the iPad 3 or the tf700.
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I currently have an ipad1 and been holding out for a tablet my options right now are prime or ipad3 i really dont believe the ipad3 is an option for me. just want feedback on the prime and your thoughts if I should wait
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What system (in order of importance):
1) runs the software that you absolutely need?
2) does the job for the lowest cost (reliability and performance issues can soften this a bit)
3) will continue to do 1 and 2 for the longest period of time
4) provides other benefits that may be of use.
No other analysis makes any sense unless you can buy more than one.
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Wait until the iPad 3 benchmarks come out before making your final decision.
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Why? These aren't old PC's. This has so little to do with what makes a tablet good to use.
Im in the same boat as you OP , i really am interested in the prime but the wifi issues that ive heard of are unacceptable to me.
hi, i hope you guys can help me to make a decission, im from El Salvador and i want to buy a prime from amazon because my brother will be here in may but i was reading all your post and i dont know... sorry for my english
This is a good thread because I'm also considering the Prime or the TF700.
I just sold my iPad 2 (whew!) and got a decent price for it so I have the money, just trying to figure out what Android tablet to buy.
Seems like I can't find the Prime any where so my decision might be made for me. I think I heard the TF700 wasn't coming out until June! I don't know if I want to wait that long.
Has anyone heard when ASUS will fix their supply problems and will the next batch of Transformer Primes have current wifi, BT and GPS problems fixed? I don't really care about GPS.
Guardsix said:
This is a good thread because I'm also considering the Prime or the TF700.
I just sold my iPad 2 (whew!) and got a decent price for it so I have the money, just trying to figure out what Android tablet to buy.
Seems like I can't find the Prime any where so my decision might be made for me. I think I heard the TF700 wasn't coming out until June! I don't know if I want to wait that long.
Has anyone heard when ASUS will fix their supply problems and will the next batch of Transformer Primes have current wifi, BT and GPS problems fixed? I don't really care about GPS.
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If you are going to get an android tablet the prime will be best unless you don't care about paying an extra $100 in "June" for the tf700. I have a prime and with all the updates the wifi and Bluetooth works fine. GPS struggles a little depending on where I am located. It works off an on but it does function. At $499 its the best.
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If you are going to get an android tablet the prime will be best unless you don't care about paying an extra $100 in "June" for the tf700. I have a prime and with all the updates the wifi and Bluetooth works fine. GPS struggles a little depending on where I am located. It works off an on but it does function. At $499 its the best.
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So the wifi is working fine now? How is your signal?
I received my prime today and I am loving it, a lot more than the galaxy tab 10.1 i had. WiFi seems fine to me, works better than my sgs1 and as good a sgs2. Have no complaints at all. Will do a network test later I am Done playing with it.
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I had a prime with the wifi/bt dropoff problem and I returned it since repair solutions seem uncertain. There were many things I loved about the prime, just too much instability in the wifi performance. I presently am watching to see if asus comes up with more consistent results from their manufacturing process or possibly for the tf700 with its redesigned backplate.
I do not like IOS, so the ipad 3 is really not an option for me. I am using an HP Touchpad with CM9 while I wait and watch......
i pre order again the prime from amazon, i'll take the risk because i live in El Salvador and i cant return it or for a refund.. i really want it and since i had my atrix 2 i love android instead ios
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So the wifi is working fine now? How is your signal?
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My signal is good, the updates that Asus has sent out which has been about 4 has greatly improved wifi.
mrboss23 said:
If you are going to get an android tablet the prime will be best unless you don't care about paying an extra $100 in "June" for the tf700. I have a prime and with all the updates the wifi and Bluetooth works fine. GPS struggles a little depending on where I am located. It works off an on but it does function. At $499 its the best.
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I read some where on this forum that ASUS had some news coming out on or about the 12th of March. Also, I've heard that new parts have been applied to later Prime tablet builds to fix the wifi/BT problems. Might just wait until Apr.
Thanks for the response.
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So the wifi is working fine now? How is your signal?
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My wifi has always been fine. It seems its hit and miss with some units or even different wifi router configurations. Personally have had zero problems connecting at university in many places, a couple hospitals and a doctors office, two airports now and two hotels. My macbook pro gets a stronger signal but matches throughput with my prime at home from across the house. The signals are equal between the prime and my Samsung phone.
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My wifi has always been fine. It seems its hit and miss with some units or even different wifi router configurations. Personally have had zero problems connecting at university in many places, a couple hospitals and a doctors office, two airports now and two hotels. My macbook pro gets a stronger signal but matches throughput with my prime at home from across the house. The signals are equal between the prime and my Samsung phone.
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Thanks for the answer. I really want the prime, especially after the "new ipad " announcement. Its a good tablet but i had an ipad 2 so besides the huge difference in screen resolution, its pretty much the same. Ive come to learn that with apple products its good to skip one year. But i really like the prime but i dont want to take any chances over the wifi issues so ill get the new ipad for now and will wait till the tf700 i think its called comes out later.
barondebxl said:
Thanks for the answer. I really want the prime, especially after the "new ipad " announcement. Its a good tablet but i had an ipad 2 so besides the huge difference in screen resolution, its pretty much the same. Ive come to learn that with apple products its good to skip one year. But i really like the prime but i dont want to take any chances over the wifi issues so ill get the new ipad for now and will wait till the tf700 i think its called comes out later.
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The tf700 has now been dubbed the transformer infinity by ASUS.
I have had my prime for less than a month. My two things that I dont care for on it.
1. I am not a fan of the wireless range. I ordered a Wifi extender that I shall install later this week. Hopefully will fix the range. My older TF101 connected and worked well. My Prime. Not so much.
2. I have light bleed. Especially when I have a pure black screen to look at...I don't really see it otherwise.
So why are so many people *****ing about the Prime? I am missing something about it? I just cant find a reason to hate it and not buy an ASUS product again..
acdcking12345 said:
I have had my prime for less than a month.
So why are so many people *****ing about the Prime? I am missing something about it?
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Well, first off, let's hope you feel the same way a year from now.
However, I've had my Prime for about two months, and still love it!
I have excellent range with wifi (I have an Apple Airport wireless router, at my home) both at home and away.
I don't notice any particular excessive light bleed, and frankly don't use my GPS, other then wanting it to notify certain programs about my current location, which seems to work fine (I haven't noticed it NOT working, if, say, I open Fandango and want to find movies in my area. It seems to always show the area I'm in)
That said, I do realize that other people HAVE had major issues with their WiFi, with rebooting, poor GPS, etc.
It's a pity, because when the Transformer Prime is working properly, it's simply an amazing device!
I'd love to see Asus have major success with the T300 and TF700. I'm sure Asus didn't sit down and decide to develop a fantastic Android tablet, but hey... let's make sure it has several issues with it's wifi and GPS...
The Prime, T300 and soon the TF700's ability to dock to a nice keyboard, it's quad core processor, thin and elegant designs (all of 'em) show that Asus has put a LOT of work to put out a fantastic Android device! I, for one, am grateful, in spite of the issues they've faced! I hope they don't give up on Android Tablets!
This thread really should be merged with the Positive Prime Thread, but I agree.
The Prime is an excellent device. Every piece of technology has it's downfalls and the ones that I experience aren't all that bad for me.
If you check out posts by Gary Key, he explains that a lot of people are lying/exaggerating after following up with support tickets.
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Have you tried bluetooth and wifi together?
Do you ever want a functioning gps?
Wifi by itself works but it's a lousy signal. My wife uses it and likes it but when you pat top dollar for a device it should work like a top dollar device. Also what do you expect Gary to say, it's a pos?
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