I am a serial crack flasher and had a question. If I install a rom and do a Android backup can I restore a previous backup of a different from or do I need to do the whole wipe/restore thing. I wanted to ask cause I know sometimes u need to flash a boot img etc.
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mpetruzz said:
I am a serial crack flasher and had a question. If I install a rom and do a Android backup can I restore a previous backup of a different from or do I need to do the whole wipe/restore thing. I wanted to ask cause I know sometimes u need to flash a boot img etc.
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Nand backup will restore to exactly what was running when it was saved.
Unless that rom he went to had the ability to use a diff kernel right? In that case he'd have to flash his old boot.img to get the original kernel back.. This seems to be one of the biggest reoccuring problems/questions on these threads. Everyone is so used to bringing back their nandroids to full 100% of where they were before, but that is not the case in the current state of s-on only.. I'm very glad we've already come so far but I think there is still a lot of confusion about rom/kernel flashing in particular how it relates to restoring a nandroid.
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Unless that rom he went to had the ability to use a diff kernel right? In that case he'd have to flash his old boot.img to get the original kernel back.. This seems to be one of the biggest reoccuring problems/questions on these threads. Everyone is so used to bringing back their nandroids to full 100% of where they were before, but that is not the case in the current state of s-on only.. I'm very glad we've already come so far but I think there is still a lot of confusion about rom/kernel flashing in particular how it relates to restoring a nandroid.
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yes, kernel would need to be flashed seperately..
I suggest using CleanFLASH by scrosler it works great!!
http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=57
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Hi guys!
Sorry if this already has posted but i couldnt find.
We just love to flash, update roms but sometimes we forget the essential and wanna go back.
So my question is: is there a way to backup and save from a original stock Atrix, things like pds, kernel, webtop, do a whole full backup of everything?
You mean like a Nandroid backup?...
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if you do a nandroid backup from cwm or rom manager it will back up everything on your current rom.
Thanks a lot for your attentio guys!
Doing these backup, even system unique files like pds, kernel, webtop, boot?
yes, its kinda like a ghost backup for a pc. it takes an image more or less.
xpc21 said:
Thanks a lot for your attentio guys!
Doing these backup, even system unique files like pds, kernel, webtop, boot?
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It makes an image of your current phone setup that you can come back to like if you get stuck, or if you want to come back from another ROM...
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Thanks a lot guys! But to use CWM or Rom manager i will have to unlock my boot, so i was wondering if there is a way to do this keeping Atrix untouchable and with this backup?
xpc21 said:
Thanks a lot guys! But to use CWM or Rom manager i will have to unlock my boot, so i was wondering if there is a way to do this keeping Atrix untouchable and with this backup?
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I think nandroid backup requires root and if you want to flash another rom you'll have to unlock the phone.
AizenSousuke92 said:
I think nandroid backup requires root and if you want to flash another rom you'll have to unlock the phone.
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Hum, thanks but to flash another rom i dont need to. I can enter in RSD and flash it without doind anything. Only if i had to flash in fastboot prompt i will need to.
Alright, so I am not really new to flashing, and rooting, but I am a newb when it comes to S-on devices. If I made a nandroid with the original kernel, andI then flashed an alternate, will I be able to just flash my nandroid, or do I have to change the kernel too? I know typically, the kernel is saved within the backup. Is it the same on a s-on device? Tried finding an answer on many boards, but came up empty. I should stop playing with things I don't understand. Thanks..... from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk
Edit; Also, with the frequencies jumping on a kernel, is this detrimental to the CPU? I get the best battery life on dsb's, but am afraid that the jumping is bad for my phone. I promise this is my last stupid post for the next 30 seconds....
JeramyEggs said:
Alright, so I am not really new to flashing, and rooting, but I am a newb when it comes to S-on devices. If I made a nandroid with the original kernel, andI then flashed an alternate, will I be able to just flash my nandroid, or do I have to change the kernel too? I know typically, the kernel is saved within the backup. Is it the same on a s-on device? Tried finding an answer on many boards, but came up empty. I should stop playing with things I don't understand. Thanks..... from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk
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It's better to ask questions that just randomly doing things. I believe the answer to this question is you'd have to use a recovery that is capable of flashing the boot partition. I think this is why we have to flash kernels separately, because they can't be flashed via any of the recoveries available. Seems that you would be able to do this with full S-Off, just not with S-On.
So the proper thing to do is to flash the original kernel, then my recovery? I just want to get the correct method before I go flash happy. Thanks Mr.Smith for the quick reply....
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JeramyEggs said:
So the proper thing to do is to flash the original kernel, then my recovery? I just want to get the correct method before I go flash happy. Thanks Mr.Smith for the quick reply....
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Flash ROM then Kernel(before you leave recovery). If you're doing a restore, then restore then kernel.
Hello guys.
What is the best way to wipe my phone, so its completely ready for new ROM?
Sorry if its alrdy out there. But hopefully you can help, im a bit new.
There area couple of things I would do and they are as follows
1. Do a backup of all your apps with Titanium or some other program like that
2. Do a full Nandroid back up of your current rom just incase you soft brick your phone.
3. Back up your EFS folder once that is gone its pretty hard to get it back. I have never had a problem but others have.
4. Make sure you wipe your cache/user data with CWM and also dalvik cache. This is to insure you dont have any issues with your old rom conflicting with the new one its sucks I have done this even if it says NO-WIPE rom.
5. Install your new rom whatever that may be
TLR
MAKE BACKUPS OF YOUR APPS
MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP
iCon878 said:
There area couple of things I would do and they are as follows
1. Do a backup of all your apps with Titanium or some other program like that
2. Do a full Nandroid back up of your current rom just incase you soft brick your phone.
3. Back up your EFS folder once that is gone its pretty hard to get it back. I have never had a problem but others have.
4. Make sure you wipe your cache/user data with CWM and also dalvik cache. This is to insure you dont have any issues with your old rom conflicting with the new one its sucks I have done this even if it says NO-WIPE rom.
5. Install your new rom whatever that may be
TLR
MAKE BACKUPS OF YOUR APPS
MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP
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In addition to the steps, you can also format the system and emmc, If you want a clean slate. Just remember to place New ROM and nandroid backup on ext SD card before formatting
I was a bit hasty when flashing, and did not get a original rom backup(nandroid). Am I completely ****ed now? My current rom works just fine, just wondering if my next flash softbricks it. Could I back up my current rom and return to that?
Also, if I flash a original sammy rom from the original rom thread(the one I presume my phone came with), will I be able to update through the built in sammy function(Search for updates)?
Sorry for hijacking, but this thread seemed suitable rather than starting a new.
Cheers!
edgenet said:
I was a bit hasty when flashing, and did not get a original rom backup(nandroid). Am I completely ****ed now? My current rom works just fine, just wondering if my next flash softbricks it. Could I back up my current rom and return to that?
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Sure, any backup of a working ROM is good. You can always pull an official firmware from Intratech's thread to flash back to stock if you need to in the future.
edgenet said:
Also, if I flash a original sammy rom from the original rom thread(the one I presume my phone came with), will I be able to update through the built in sammy function(Search for updates)?
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Maybe. I see a Norwegian flag in your profile. If you flash back to stock, it MAY work for you. Doesn't for me, but that's because I'm in the US, and no one officially carries this phone here.. so neither Kies nor OTA work for updates for me.
edgenet said:
I was a bit hasty when flashing, and did not get a original rom backup(nandroid). Am I completely ****ed now? My current rom works just fine, just wondering if my next flash softbricks it. Could I back up my current rom and return to that?
Also, if I flash a original sammy rom from the original rom thread(the one I presume my phone came with), will I be able to update through the built in sammy function(Search for updates)?
Sorry for hijacking, but this thread seemed suitable rather than starting a new.
Cheers!
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No, not suitable at all.
Hijacking bigtime and not using "search" either - good start, you'll not be popular if you carry on like this...
Since like me you're in Norway and can't sleep either I'll try to help - no links though, you gotta search:
If you're careful with flashing the softbrick chances are small. Yes, you can back up your current ROM.
No, you can't update via "search for updates" on the phone. It's an OTA feature that's never been implemented in Gingerbread - at least not here in Norge.
And you can't "presume" what your original firmware/ROM was - you either know it or you don't.
To be honest, you don't sound like you're ready for custom ROMs yet. I'd do a lot more reading here if I were you.
Lykke til.
If i format system and emmc ..will i have to root the phone again?
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If i format system and emmc ..will i have to root the phone again?
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Do you mean format /system? I'm thinking if you format /system, you'll have to re-flash the phone's firmware.
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That does a full wipe, whilst keeping root.
If you change Roms, you will lose your root.
But when you install a custom kernel, most auto root anyway.
Finally words of advice, ALWAYS be sure what your doing if flashing anything!
Don't rush into Anything until YOU KNOW what your doing.
Not sure about something, ask. (dont guess or assume)
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Thanks..
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I'm on amonra 3.12b, I've tried several times to restore a backup. I was recently on Scott's GBE rom and wanted to try out Joelz new ICS rom. Well his ICS rom was giving me problems so I tried to restore the GBE rom backup, but my phone wouldn't boot up, I was stuck at a black screen, but it was still backlit.
I did the nand backup properly, I didn't get any errors. I left all the options as they where I don't touch anything with the check boxes. I then did a wipe/factory reset and then I restored the nand backup of the GBE rom I made earlier. It restored fine, no errors. I don't understand why my backups arent working? Thankfully I still had Scott's rom on my sdcard so I just flash that again and it worked. I have no problem flashing roms, for some reason I just can't seem to restore any backups.
Yesterday, I went through this same problem but with a different error. I was trying to flash Joelz rom but it wouldn't work, so I tried restoring my GBE nand backup but amonra gave me an error. "oops...something went wrong! please check recovery log".
As you can see I'm having a tough time troubleshooting this problem so any help would be very much appreciated, b/c it's getting to be a pain having to re-flash a rom every time I wan't to switch and having no safety net in case something happens, can't backup anything. Thx!
u gotta flash the the boot.img
Read the very bottom where it says more info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459347
Yeah...you will need to flash a GB kernel when going back to GB from ICS.
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Yeah...you will need to flash a GB kernel when going back to GB from ICS.
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So if I'm on an ics rom and want to restore a backup that was on gb I need to flash the gb kernel after restoring the gb rom? And than vice versa..
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Yep that is it.
bal1985 said:
So if I'm on an ics rom and want to restore a backup that was on gb I need to flash the gb kernel after restoring the gb rom? And than vice versa..
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That's correct but you may get a mainver error when you try to do that depending on what kernel/mainver you have.
I have run into that a couple times but it is simple to fix by editing the text file in the kernel to match the mainver version.
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That's correct but you may get a mainver error when you try to do that depending on what kernel/mainver you have.
I have run into that a couple times but it is simple to fix by editing the text file in the kernel to match the mainver version.
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Or just flash the kernel in fastboot. Then you don't have to worry about mainver.
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Or just flash the kernel in fastboot. Then you don't have to worry about mainver.
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True, either way works fine.
I think it's easier to simply edit that file, but it's really easy either way.
Do I need to restore the ROM I made my nandriod from first? Or can I restore my previous nandriod off any ROM I'm currently using?
I'm sure this has had to been asked before, but maybe I'm using the xda search wrong.
Thanks
platinumthomas said:
Do I need to restore the ROM I made my nandriod from first? Or can I restore my previous nandriod off any ROM I'm currently using?
I'm sure this has had to been asked before, but maybe I'm using the xda search wrong.
Thanks
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Just wipe in Aron Ra and then restore from your nandroid. I commonly jump from Rom to Rom, just make sure you wipe in between.
Yupyup your nandroid reverts you to whatever that particular nandroid saved..
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Thanks guys. I'm not sure what is wrong with my phone. Clean ROM 4.3 was the only one that would work for me, until this morning. I finally got RAGE1.8 to work. All other ROMs would boot loop, including all Clean ROMs after 4.3. I had been reinstalling Clean ROM and then restoring the nandriod, I'm glad I can skip one step if I need to go back.
Make sure you wipe before you restore a nandroid. If you don't it could cause it to bootloop.
Also if you're s on it could be an issue with kernel compatibility
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I am S on. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought loading the PH98IMG file in the bootloader was loading the kernel.
First, you really should S-Off, it will make it a whole lot easier, it will allow you to jump from Rom to Rom a lot easier. Be careful because some new roms call for the latest firmware to run correctly.
platinumthomas said:
I am S on. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought loading the PH98IMG file in the bootloader was loading the kernel.
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It has to be the ph file from the rom you are on