Alright, so I am not really new to flashing, and rooting, but I am a newb when it comes to S-on devices. If I made a nandroid with the original kernel, andI then flashed an alternate, will I be able to just flash my nandroid, or do I have to change the kernel too? I know typically, the kernel is saved within the backup. Is it the same on a s-on device? Tried finding an answer on many boards, but came up empty. I should stop playing with things I don't understand. Thanks..... from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk
Edit; Also, with the frequencies jumping on a kernel, is this detrimental to the CPU? I get the best battery life on dsb's, but am afraid that the jumping is bad for my phone. I promise this is my last stupid post for the next 30 seconds....
JeramyEggs said:
Alright, so I am not really new to flashing, and rooting, but I am a newb when it comes to S-on devices. If I made a nandroid with the original kernel, andI then flashed an alternate, will I be able to just flash my nandroid, or do I have to change the kernel too? I know typically, the kernel is saved within the backup. Is it the same on a s-on device? Tried finding an answer on many boards, but came up empty. I should stop playing with things I don't understand. Thanks..... from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk
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It's better to ask questions that just randomly doing things. I believe the answer to this question is you'd have to use a recovery that is capable of flashing the boot partition. I think this is why we have to flash kernels separately, because they can't be flashed via any of the recoveries available. Seems that you would be able to do this with full S-Off, just not with S-On.
So the proper thing to do is to flash the original kernel, then my recovery? I just want to get the correct method before I go flash happy. Thanks Mr.Smith for the quick reply....
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JeramyEggs said:
So the proper thing to do is to flash the original kernel, then my recovery? I just want to get the correct method before I go flash happy. Thanks Mr.Smith for the quick reply....
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Flash ROM then Kernel(before you leave recovery). If you're doing a restore, then restore then kernel.
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I am getting ready to root my bolt. I will use the revolution tool.
I want to flash thunderstick genII Rom. In the instructions they say to flash both radios. Is this needed if the phone being rooted has already been updated OTA? Shouldn't the radios be already updated?
Secondly, if it is safe to flash roms with Rom manager, will it know to flash the two radios?
Thanks!
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Radios are flashed in hboot ONLY! Look for a tutorial in the stickied topics
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From looking at the original post for the thunderstick genII Rom it is a sense gingerbread ROM. It will use "MR2+" radios most likely (please don't make add the disclaimer... I'm not responsible for you turning your phone into a paper weight). They will be MR2 or MR2.5 etc.
Long story short, you should use what the dev. of the ROM suggests for the radio. It typically gives the best performance, least chance of bugs, and best battery life for the ROM. Follow the instructions in the post using HBOOT (Power on with the volume down pressed).
From the original post:
"install these radios
To do so,
1 - Downloaded the "CDMA" first file below to the ROOT of your SDCARD,
2 - Name the file PG05IMG.zip and reboot to your boot loader.
3 - Then follow the the prompts to install the update. Delete the file immediately after reboot.
4 - Repeat these steps for the second file "LTE". And you will have a upgraded radio that will work great with this ROM."
Not sure if the address space is accessible from CWR for radios, so you have to use hboot. It can be dangerous. Follow the steps, and if it is you first time, do the research!!!! There are much more involved guides.
I'm guessing that since radios and roms are flashed in different modes - hboot and recovery - devs can't include radios?
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I'm guessing that since radios and roms are flashed in different modes - hboot and recovery - devs can't include radios?
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They wouldn't even if they could. There would be so many pissed users it wouldn't be funny. I'd be one of them. Nobody like flashing radios because its a far riskier deal.
Well to get thunderstick going I need to do both radios.
The tuts for flashing radios made it seem like flashing any other thing. Now you have me questioning doing this. This Rom is what I want from my phone...a tweaked sense rom.
If I'm right CWM let's you get to hboot to flash radios, right. And it let's you get to recovery to flash the Rom.
Jeez I came from a iPhone 3g and Jailbreaking was easy compared to this.
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gcodori said:
Well to get thunderstick going I need to do both radios.
The tuts for flashing radios made it seem like flashing any other thing. Now you have me questioning doing this. This Rom is what I want from my phone...a tweaked sense rom.
If I'm right CWM let's you get to hboot to flash radios, right. And it let's you get to recovery to flash the Rom.
Jeez I came from a iPhone 3g and Jailbreaking was easy compared to this.
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For some reason I've notice a lot of people calling RomManager by "CWM" lately and for some reason it annoys me. ClockworkMod is the "company name" Koush uses to identify his apps/products. The app you are referring to is RomManager and the recovery is called ClockworkMod Recovery.
Anyway, neither CWR nor RomManager deal with hboot. You can place the file on your sdcard and manually boot to hboot (Pwr+VolDwn or the advanced power menu in some roms). Full instructions for this should not be needed here since they are all over the place including the pinned Q/A thread at the top of this subforum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220484
I'm sure this will come off harsher than it was intended. I just wanted to throw those things out there. Anyway, welcome to Android
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For some reason I've notice a lot of people calling RomManager by "CWM" lately and for some reason it annoys me. ClockworkMod is the "company name" Koush uses to identify his apps/products. The app you are referring to is RomManager and the recovery is called ClockworkMod Recovery.
Anyway, neither CWR nor RomManager deal with hboot. You can place the file on your sdcard and manually boot to hboot (Pwr+VolDwn or the advanced power menu in some roms). Full instructions for this should not be needed here since they are all over the place including the pinned Q/A thread at the top of this subforum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220484
I'm sure this will come off harsher than it was intended. I just wanted to throw those things out there. Anyway, welcome to Android
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Thank you for laying all that out there. I really cannot endorse what Absolute_Zero has to say about calling things by their proper names. When people don't do that, it gets VERY confusing when you try to help them.
Concerning ROM Manager, I don't see how it serves any useful purpose. Fixing permissions can be done just as well through a script like ScriptFusion or ClockworkMod Recovery. I know of no ROM dev that endorses flashing, wiping, backing up, or recovering through ROM Manager, which is a nice way of saying DO NOT USE ROM Manager. It's fairly reliable for flashing recoveries, but I've had issues with it even doing that right.
Just follow the instructions I've laid out for flashing radios. I've included all the links to every radio there. If you follow my directions, I can promise you with 99.9% certainty that your radio flash will go perfectly. It's nothing to be afraid of and nothing to really concern yourself with. Just don't go looking for the easy way of doing everything. This isn't a Motorola device and there's a lot more you can do outside of an app than with an app.
Actually being harsh is cool. When I said CWM I meant the recovery. I should have been more clear.
I will stay away from Rom manager and learn to flash the big boy way.
My last question is this...my SD card is pretty messy. What is the best advice to clear out the card after flashing thunderstick?
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gcodori said:
Actually being harsh is cool. When I said CWM I meant the recovery. I should have been more clear.
I will stay away from Rom manager and learn to flash the big boy way.
My last question is this...my SD card is pretty messy. What is the best advice to clear out the card after flashing thunderstick?
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The best way is to clean it up before flashing. Some ROMs install directories to the SDcard, but those should be clearly named. There's not really anything there that you can do that will render the phone junk. For me, it's just been a process of sorting through all the stuff, backing it up, formatting the card, and dropping the stuff I do want back on it.
Is there an option to format the SD card during flashing?
I have backed up my photos and any documents. After I copy over any videos I took, I would clear it out.
After installing a dozen or more apps, the card looks like a mess.
There's three folders with music in it, etc. Why can't there be an app folder with subdirectories for each app?
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gcodori said:
Is there an option to format the SD card during flashing?
I have backed up my photos and any documents. After I copy over any videos I took, I would clear it out.
After installing a dozen or more apps, the card looks like a mess.
There's three folders with music in it, etc. Why can't there be an app folder with subdirectories for each app?
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You can format it either in CWR, Android, or on a computer.
Rooted today with revolution. Pretty easy but it didn't install clockwork. Had to run it again. I noticed Rom manager doesnt recognize clockwork as installed. I wasn't planning on using Rom manager but was curious about this.
One last question before flashing thunderstick...if something fails and I revert to the nandroid backup, does that revert back to the old radio? I need to flash both radios and want to know if I can fall back to the backup if it fails.
Thanks.
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Rooted today with revolution. Pretty easy but it didn't install clockwork. Had to run it again. I noticed Rom manager doesnt recognize clockwork as installed. I wasn't planning on using Rom manager but was curious about this.
One last question before flashing thunderstick...if something fails and I revert to the nandroid backup, does that revert back to the old radio? I need to flash both radios and want to know if I can fall back to the backup if it fails.
Thanks.
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Nandroid backups don't include radios.
gcodori said:
Rooted today with revolution. Pretty easy but it didn't install clockwork. Had to run it again. I noticed Rom manager doesnt recognize clockwork as installed. I wasn't planning on using Rom manager but was curious about this.
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RomManager will only recognize CWR as being installed if RomManager itself is what was used to flash it.
I'm dealing with this same thing (flashing Radios). I recently rooted my device (after having it since release) and froze the bloat. I never flashed a ROM and want to look to see if it's possible to find a ROM for my Thunderbolt that does not need me to change the Radio. If I don't Flash a ROM I'm more than happy with having root and dealing with the crapware and installing apps I couldn't use before. Good Luck. Enjoy your device.
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I'm dealing with this same thing (flashing Radios). I recently rooted my device (after having it since release) and froze the bloat. I never flashed a ROM and want to look to see if it's possible to find a ROM for my Thunderbolt that does not need me to change the Radio. If I don't Flash a ROM I'm more than happy with having root and dealing with the crapware and installing apps I couldn't use before. Good Luck. Enjoy your device.
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What's you apprehension about flashing a radio?
I flashed the 802 radio right after installing NonS3ns3v2 on my Tbolt. Everything went fine and seems to be running smoothly.
I am a serial crack flasher and had a question. If I install a rom and do a Android backup can I restore a previous backup of a different from or do I need to do the whole wipe/restore thing. I wanted to ask cause I know sometimes u need to flash a boot img etc.
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I am a serial crack flasher and had a question. If I install a rom and do a Android backup can I restore a previous backup of a different from or do I need to do the whole wipe/restore thing. I wanted to ask cause I know sometimes u need to flash a boot img etc.
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Nand backup will restore to exactly what was running when it was saved.
Unless that rom he went to had the ability to use a diff kernel right? In that case he'd have to flash his old boot.img to get the original kernel back.. This seems to be one of the biggest reoccuring problems/questions on these threads. Everyone is so used to bringing back their nandroids to full 100% of where they were before, but that is not the case in the current state of s-on only.. I'm very glad we've already come so far but I think there is still a lot of confusion about rom/kernel flashing in particular how it relates to restoring a nandroid.
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Unless that rom he went to had the ability to use a diff kernel right? In that case he'd have to flash his old boot.img to get the original kernel back.. This seems to be one of the biggest reoccuring problems/questions on these threads. Everyone is so used to bringing back their nandroids to full 100% of where they were before, but that is not the case in the current state of s-on only.. I'm very glad we've already come so far but I think there is still a lot of confusion about rom/kernel flashing in particular how it relates to restoring a nandroid.
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yes, kernel would need to be flashed seperately..
I suggest using CleanFLASH by scrosler it works great!!
http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=57
i have a rezound that i have unlock and rooted..
i have been trying to flash roms on the phone but it gets stuck at the white htc screen.. i have been reading some of the threads and im not sure if i understand if im doing something wrong.. when i try to flash a rom i get into recovery the clear factory reset,clear cache,clear dalvtik.... install the the rom from the external sd card. once its done i get into fastboot and install the PH89IMG.ZIP. onces thats done i reboot and thats when i get stuck... im very new to this... i have tried to install clockworkmod on the phone .. the only why that i get into recovery is using the rezound tool kit 2.0. i dont think that,that has anything to do with it but i could be wrong... somebody please help me....
bakerboy81 said:
i have a rezound that i have unlock and rooted..
i have been trying to flash roms on the phone but it gets stuck at the white htc screen.. i have been reading some of the threads and im not sure if i understand if im doing something wrong.. when i try to flash a rom i get into recovery the clear factory reset,clear cache,clear dalvtik.... install the the rom from the external sd card. once its done i get into fastboot and install the PH89IMG.ZIP. onces thats done i reboot and thats when i get stuck... im very new to this... i have tried to install clockworkmod on the phone .. the only why that i get into recovery is using the rezound tool kit 2.0. i dont think that,that has anything to do with it but i could be wrong... somebody please help me....
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don't use clockwork, use the amon recovery.
Use among ra recovery. Other that, how long have you let it sit at that screen? Sometimes it takes several minutes, just be patient.
Also, what rom, and are you on the new leaked firmware?
I could remote into team viewer on your computer and flash amon ra recovery on your phone and walk you through installing a Rom and kernel for you if you want.
But to properly wipe, it should be data, cache, dalvic cache, and system
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425091
that thread helped me alot, do lots of reading before you flash anything. also make sure you have the correct kernel for the rom your using.
i have tried using amon recovery and i get the same result.... i have let it sit for about 10 mins and nothing happens... im trying to flash scottsrom ics.. the latest one....
bakerboy81 said:
i have tried using amon recovery and i get the same result.... i have let it sit for about 10 mins and nothing happens... im trying to flash scottsrom ics.. the latest one....
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Have you ran the leaked ruu and have the new firmware?
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ijustwantmydock said:
Have you ran the leaked ruu and have the new firmware?
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he doesn't need to be on the leaked ruu to use the ics roms. he can flash the old firmware patch too.
I have tried to find the leak ruu but I don't know where to find it and how to install it. I was reading about it earlier but I'm still a little iffy on how to do it ..
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bakerboy81 said:
I have tried to find the leak ruu but I don't know where to find it and how to install it. I was reading about it earlier but I'm still a little iffy on how to do it ..
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just be aware if you use it, your hboot will say "tampered" and you cannot roll back to GB firmware. if your new to this, id do alot of reading before attempting it. if you want a good GB based rom look into chingy's rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420513
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he doesn't need to be on the leaked ruu to use the ics roms. he can flash the old firmware patch too.
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He can so that but its not supported by Scott so if he has any problems he wont get help.
Just because you are against flashing the leaked firmware doesn't make it bad.
To the OP, if you are uncomfortable with relocking your phone to flash the new firmware I would try one of the gb roms. The update for ICS should be anyday now.
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He can so that but its not supported by Scott so if he has any problems he wont get help.
Just because you are against flashing the leaked firmware doesn't make it bad.
To the OP, if you are uncomfortable with relocking your phone to flash the new firmware I would try one of the gb roms. The update for ICS should be anyday now.
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he can also use rezrom which supports the old firmware with a patch. and we have no clue when the ota will be out. i never told him not to flash the ruu but if he doesn't know what he is doing i recommend he reads up alot. stop trying to contradict everything i say in every thread, it's getting annoying.
OP i sent you a pm.
are u sure that your kernel is being flashed in Fastboot? because thats what usually causes freeze ups
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are u sure that your kernel is being flashed in Fastboot? because thats what usually causes freeze ups
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+1 to this
Need to get my ten post over with so I don't need to do image verifications
PHONE IS STUCK ON BOOT LOOP!!! what do i do, i have s-on and i have TWRP 2.0 RECOVERY. help me please
What Rom where u running before u flashed ?
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Since you have a recovery before you did any changes did you create a backup? If not what Rom are you trying to flash and what were you running before?
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i know it was a noob mistake but i didnt make a back up, i was on stock, i unlocked the bootloader and then installed recovery and from there i erased system data cache dalvix or what ever its called, so pretty much i wiped clean then i flashed the boot.img to the phone using adb, then installed a ics rom rom and phone does not want to turn back on at all
i still am able to boot into fastboot and recovery, i reflashed CMW on the phone using adb while the phone was in fastboot thinking that would make a difference but it didnt, i also tried 2 other roms but with still no luck, im i doing something wrong here? i have s-on by the way!!
Thanks in advance guys!
chris.ana25 said:
i still am able to boot into fastboot and recovery, i reflashed CMW on the phone using adb while the phone was in fastboot thinking that would make a difference but it didnt, i also tried 2 other roms but with still no luck, im i doing something wrong here? i have s-on by the way!!
Thanks in advance guys!
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Have you solved the issue?
If not what ROM were you trying to install?
edit: added this it might help u - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575550
You need to specify the rom you were trying to install and when you say stock do you mean gb or ics? What I would do is install the latest leaked ics. You can find many tutorials on how to do that. Then once your phone is updated install eng hboot flash a recovery do a new ics rom
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If u have a recovery ur always able to fix it I've found. If ur flashing an ics Rom, I would follow the s off tutorial and once that is done, flash ur ics framework and Rom threw fastboot if u can't boot it or even recovery if u can still get there. If anything and ur still on gingerbread, find the amaze stock ruu, and "fastboot flash boot boot_signed" then Itl turn on
Another one of these threads? There are multiple threads about "How I Bricked My Amaze" if you don't want an expensive paper weight then I suggest browsing more often.
To flash an ICS Rom you need to be updated to the Official ICS or the Leaked ICS.
Certain threads even explain this before hand in their OP.
Failure to read has been the "IN" thing going on around these forums.
Not reading will get you bricked.
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chris.ana25 said:
i still am able to boot into fastboot and recovery, i reflashed CMW on the phone using adb while the phone was in fastboot thinking that would make a difference but it didnt, i also tried 2 other roms but with still no luck, im i doing something wrong here? i have s-on by the way!!
Thanks in advance guys!
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That isn't how you get to ICS - everything I know thus far says you are supposed to do it by flashing the leaked OFFICIAL image in the bootloader - do a LITTLE research(hint, everything ICS thread has the how-to like the second post). Perhaps there is a way to do it differently, but I have yet to find ONE set of instructions that say to flash it originally thru CWM. If you knew the right way, you'd already have it fixed.
At least you HAVE a recovery you can access - depending on the version of CWM it may not be the best one, but at least you should be able to access the bootloader-- but unless some other noob who had the same issue explains it to you by PM, that is about as much help as you are going to get - at least until anyone can tell you've done some research!
As Double0EK said, there is PLENTY of information that should be easy to find.
OP, have you figured out a solution?
Please tell us what rom ure trying to install and maybe we can help
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chris.ana25 said:
i know it was a noob mistake but i didnt make a back up, i was on stock, i unlocked the bootloader and then installed recovery and from there i erased system data cache dalvix or what ever its called, so pretty much i wiped clean then i flashed the boot.img to the phone using adb, then installed a ics rom rom and phone does not want to turn back on at all
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WOW... Seriously? That whole post is probably a good reason to take a few months and get a clue what you're doing. I'm not sure how much u paid for this phone, but diving in uneducated and blind like that will lead to a fancy coaster before u know it.
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thanks guys i got it going.... i flashed leaked ics and got it going
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thanks guys i got it going.... i flashed leaked ics and got it going
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*claps like the joker*
Lol
glacierguy said:
WOW... Seriously? That whole post is probably a good reason to take a few months and get a clue what you're doing. I'm not sure how much u paid for this phone, but diving in uneducated and blind like that will lead to a fancy coaster before u know it.
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first of all, i rooted many phones already, i know what im doing but i rushed through the process, i have rooted galaxy notes, the sensation and the amaze befor but i just rushed, know how to put phone into fastboot through adb, flash recoverys in fastboot when my mothers phone did not want to get cmw right,
i'm new to rooting, custom roms etc, and i tried to put a custom rom on my htc evo 3d, i read there to change the radio fw, done..then put the rom...the rom installed, and now the phone is blocked at the start..white screen and htc logo...the recovery and hboot is working..but it wont start...what should i do, it's there a solution(i'm disperate(. plase help. (sorry if i've posted this wrong)
Try to factory reset , wipe cache and install Rom again .
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The first time a newly flashed Rom boots up it can take a few minutes to start. Factory reset/wipe and restart the phone. Set it down and walk away for 5 minutes minimum. It can be hard to do with the anticipation but sometimes it just needs to be left alone till its loaded everything
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Don't panic you probably just need to install the kernel boot.img via fastboot.
Turge has provided some very nice instructions in his thread, here
Just make sure to use the boot.img from the rom your trying to install rather than the one in his tut. (it's in the romname.zip file)
Didn't you make a back up before flashing a custom rom? If you did, just try to restore it first.
You need more info about your setup: cdma/gsm, s-on/off, HTC unlocked/locked, hboot version, recovery, etc.
If u are hboot 1.50/HTC unlocked have a look at the guide in my signature.
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hellianowned said:
Didn't you make a back up before flashing a custom rom? If you did, just try to restore it first.
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Good point. U NEVER flash anything without a good backup. I leave the last 2 backups on my ad card and delete the oldest everytime I flash a Rom. That way if one is bad hopefully the other one isn't.
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possible solution
let start of by do you know how to get into recovery? did you follow instructions from site when trying to root? did you follow and understand all steps?
do you have a recovery software loaded like 4xt or clock work mod? do you remember doing a backup? if you can get into recovery then you can fix your phone and its far from bricked.
Is it still broken? have you fixed it and not updated the forum?
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let start of by do you know how to get into recovery? did you follow instructions from site when trying to root? did you follow and understand all steps?
do you have a recovery software loaded like 4xt or clock work mod? do you remember doing a backup? if you can get into recovery then you can fix your phone and its far from bricked.
Is it still broken? have you fixed it and not updated the forum?
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Op hasn't commented in a long time. Last post was a couple days ago.
No point in people commenting now.
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