Hadn't used my dock for a couple of days and plugged in my Prime tonight to see how the dock held its charge. I was impressed to see the dock at 98%, which is right where I had left it. That's about perfect.
Just thought I'd make note of a significant positive.
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Great findings can't wait for arrival of my dock
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build quality on my dock sucked. the small screws in the bottom holding it all together werent flush, im returning it tomorrow and asking for a replacment, other than that its awesome!
may I note that when the prime is docked it does not go into deep sleep thus reducing the total battery life if you kept the 2 seperate...
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may I note that when the prime is docked it does not go into deep sleep thus reducing the total battery life if you kept the 2 seperate...
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Yes, that's something that ASUS needs to resolve. I get about 1.5%/hour usage when the Prime is docked and closed (and thus on standby), vs. about .25%/hour on standby for the tablet by itself.
That's better than what I get with my original Transformer when it's docked, which is closer to 2.5%/hour usage. But, it would be great if ASUS can figure out a way for the dock to not stop the tablet from entering deep sleep.
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may I note that when the prime is docked it does not go into deep sleep thus reducing the total battery life if you kept the 2 seperate...
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that's very disappointing to hear actually...
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that's very disappointing to hear actually...
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I don't see it as that much of a problem. If there's truly something about the dock that makes deep sleep on the tablet impossible (I have no idea if there is or not, and it really does remain to be seen), it's not an unreasonable solution to simply store them separately. Even carrying them separately isn't a problem, really.
I do hope that ASUS can enable deep sleep when docked, but if they can't it doesn't really reduce the usefulness of the dock for me. In fact, I use my tablet by itself the majority of the time in any case and thus tend to keep the two separate.
The fact that the dock maintains its charge when undocked is far more important to me, and it does that quite well.
Just a guess but I would assume it doesn't enter deep sleep because it will turn on the screen when you open it. If it is docked and you close it, the screen shuts off but it still needs to monitor the dock to see if you open it again. It would be nice to have an option to have it conserve power (as if it isn't docked) and you have to manually turn the screen on again.
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I don't see it as that much of a problem. If there's truly something about the dock that makes deep sleep on the tablet impossible (I have no idea if there is or not, and it really does remain to be seen), it's not an unreasonable solution to simply store them separately. Even carrying them separately isn't a problem, really.
I do hope that ASUS can enable deep sleep when docked, but if they can't it doesn't really reduce the usefulness of the dock for me. In fact, I use my tablet by itself the majority of the time in any case and thus tend to keep the two separate.
The fact that the dock maintains its charge when undocked is far more important to me, and it does that quite well.
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I'm not saying it's the end of the world, but one of the attractions of the dock is to make a clamshell shape that will protect the tablet and keys during transport. sucks if it will drain the battery whenever you want to take it somewhere.
Mine does go into deep sleep, make sure in asus customized setting you put it in battery facet dock mode, then the keyboard doesn't wake the tab.
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Mine does go into deep sleep, make sure in asus customized setting you put it in battery facet dock mode, then the keyboard doesn't wake the tab.
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I didn't know that. Very helpful, I'll check that
I have something setup wrong because my tablet sucks my dock dry in about 3 hours in use - it just never stops pulling the charge from the dock. I only let them sleep together once and it was a disaster ......dock was drained, tablets had rebooted I suppose because it was in some sort of different "mode", it still had life, but it was alien like life!
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Mine does go into deep sleep, make sure in asus customized setting you put it in battery facet dock mode, then the keyboard doesn't wake the tab.
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Is that the last setting in that section? I have that box checked.
Hmmm, I don't know then. What is your wifi sleep Policy?
My wifi is set to never.
I last charged my tab on thursday night, its between mostly idle since then(like 3 hours total use since then) still have 77% on tab and 37% dock.
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I'd been wondering how well it would hold a charge while docked, so last night I fully charged both the tablet and dock then left it closed from midnight (UK time.)
It sat on my desk like that until I got home from work at 17:15 this evening, opened it up and the dock was showing 99% and the prime 98% full charge.
I've not changed any of the power settings or docked settings yet, so that's running out of the box (post updates of course.)
Of course it's possible the battery indicator isn't accurately reflecting the amount of charge it's used, but based on those numbers it doesn't seem to be a problem.
Somewhat anecdotal evidence, I'll test it out a bit further this week and see if its actually entering deep sleep (presumably it is.)
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Somewhat anecdotal evidence, I'll test it out a bit further this week and see if its actually entering deep sleep (presumably it is.)
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This has been my experience as well. The dock does not seem to keep the screen any more awake than when they are not connected. I do love how the screen automatically comes up when you open it and turns off when you close it.
Man I love the two of these things together.
I have the Asus setting checked but my tab is like a vampire and sucks the dock battery dry in just a few hours time. There needs to be a deep sleep setting. It isn't really practical for me to disconnect the dock every time I stop using it. That takes away a good part of the portability aspect.
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I have the Asus setting checked but my tab is like a vampire and sucks the dock battery dry in just a few hours time. There needs to be a deep sleep setting. It isn't really practical for me to disconnect the dock every time I stop using it. That takes away a good part of the portability aspect.
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Do you mean when the Prime is completely charged (which is what this thread is about) or when the dock is charging the Prime? Because the dock battery IS smaller than the Prime's, and thus it will certainly discharge at a faster rate when charging the Prime's battery (until it runs out, of course).
Indeed, the dock shouldn't discharge AT ALL until the Prime is at 70% or less. So, if your Prime is 100% charged and it still sucks the dock battery dry in a few hours, then you're experiencing some other problem.
Again, this is about the Prime and dock both being at 100%, and whether or not the Prime enters deep sleep. It's not about the impact on the dock battery when the dock is actually charging the Prime from a less-than-70% state.
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I have the Asus setting checked but my tab is like a vampire and sucks the dock battery dry in just a few hours time. There needs to be a deep sleep setting. It isn't really practical for me to disconnect the dock every time I stop using it. That takes away a good part of the portability aspect.
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I think we have the same dock exactly what happens to me. I am assuming user error, a setting i don't have rught, but I'm not sure where else to check. My wifi is set t to never.
slugbug2010 said:
I think we have the same dock exactly what happens to me. I am assuming user error, a setting i don't have rught, but I'm not sure where else to check. My wifi is set t to never.
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As I said in the post just before yours, if your Prime is at 70% or less, your dock will charge it which will definitely discharge the dock pretty quickly. If your Prime is at 100%, then it shouldn't be discharging the dock at all. If it is, then something's broken.
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Do you mean when the Prime is completely charged (which is what this thread is about) or when the dock is charging the Prime? Because the dock battery IS smaller than the Prime's, and thus it will certainly discharge at a faster rate when charging the Prime's battery (until it runs out, of course).
Indeed, the dock shouldn't discharge AT ALL until the Prime is at 70% or less. So, if your Prime is 100% charged and it still sucks the dock battery dry in a few hours, then you're experiencing some other problem.
Again, this is about the Prime and dock both being at 100%, and whether or not the Prime enters deep sleep. It's not about the impact on the dock battery when the dock is actually charging the Prime from a less-than-70% state.
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Yes, from 100%.
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As I said in the post just before yours, if your Prime is at 70% or less, your dock will charge it which will definitely discharge the dock pretty quickly. If your Prime is at 100%, then it shouldn't be discharging the dock at all. If it is, then something's broken.
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Would there be log file that might shed light, like logcat or something? I don't know enough about this, I'm asking. I do know how to grab logs.
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Looks like ASUS has some work to do with the Prime dock, just like they had with the original Transformer. Short story: my Prime does not enter deep sleep when docked (with the setting on to disable waking via keyboard, a.k.a., MobileDock battery saving mode is checked).
When not docked, I can get as low as .25%/hour battery use, and CPU Spy shows the unit mostly in deep sleep. When docked, I get between 1.5%-2%/hour battery use, and CPU Spy shows zero time in deep sleep.
Anybody getting a different result? While standby is better with the Prime+dock than my original Transformer, it still doesn't seem to be where it should be.
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Looks like ASUS has some work to do with the Prime dock, just like they had with the original Transformer. Short story: my Prime does not enter deep sleep when docked (with the setting on to disable waking via keyboard).
When not docked, I can get as low as .25%/hour battery use, and CPU Spy shows the unit mostly in deep sleep. When docked, I get between 1.5%-2%/hour battery use, and CPU Spy shows zero time in deep sleep.
Anybody getting a different result? While standby is better with the Prime+dock than my original Transformer, it still doesn't seem to be where it should be.
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Under Asus Customized settings did you check MobileDock Battery saving mode? That might be the cause.
Edit: Nvm didnt get your first sentence till i read it again, if thats not the case then idk... sorry
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Under Asus Customized settings did you check MobileDock Battery saving mode? That might be the cause.
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Yes, a.k.a., "the setting to disable waking via keyboard." And, I can verify that the keyboard does NOT wake the device.
Curious
This might explain my problem too. I plugged my prime into the dock (after ensuring the wake up) and my battery was drained much faster than expected. Ill have to check my CPU usage when I get home.
my dock is waiting on my doorstep...i'll test tonight.
Oh, and how bout those battery stats?
i can confirm i get the same results.
also one setting that needs to be de-coupled is the keep wifi activated while plugged in.
if you turn that on wifi will never shut off when docked, the ATP sees being docked the same as being "plugged in" and keeps wifi enabled forever.
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i can confirm i get the same results.
also one setting that needs to be de-coupled is the keep wifi activated while plugged in.
if you turn that on wifi will never shut off when docked, the ATP sees being docked the same as being "plugged in" and keeps wifi enabled forever.
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I wonder if that alone is enough to account for the extra battery drain? Guess op may have already had that off though.
Where are you all getting your docks from? I want one, but cant find it anywhere
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I wonder if that alone is enough to account for the extra battery drain? Guess op may have already had that off though.
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I have wifi at the default setting (which is to keep wifi on during sleep) because I've been getting such good standby performance. Apparently wifi being on does NOT stop the device from entering deep sleep.
Incidentally, I do wonder what "deep sleep" means on the Prime given the companion core. I know that I still receive email and other notifications while on standby and deep sleep, so maybe the companion core is still running even when Android considers the device to be in its "deep sleep" mode.
Kind of busy and need to think more about that, actually...
My dock is down to 29% with most of the day of non use.
How do you turn off the wifi when docked but in sleep? Can't seem to find the setting for that.
Also, another newbie question, does the lock key (upper right key) on the dock serve the same function as the power key on the tablet?
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i can confirm this now. I'm down to 89% after 6 hours of basically idle, wifi set to always on. Without the dock i would have been in the mid 90's, all things being equal.
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How do you turn off the wifi when docked but in sleep? Can't seem to find the setting for that.
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there isn't a setting, my earlier comment was directed towards asus, sorry. they need to provide us an option for that. i have gotten into the habit of just shutting wifi off when it's docked and i'm not using it :/
Is anyone else also not receiving notifications when you're docked and closed? If i leave it open (but locked) i seem to still get notifications.
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Is anyone else also not receiving notifications when you're docked and closed? If i leave it open (but locked) i seem to still get notifications.
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I can hear my e-mail notifications when it's docked and closed.
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Is anyone else also not receiving notifications when you're docked and closed? If i leave it open (but locked) i seem to still get notifications.
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I hear notifications as well when docked and closed. Woke up my wife once cause I forgot to silence the thing .
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I hear notifications as well when docked and closed. Woke up my wife once cause I forgot to silence the thing .
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well i discovered for some reason the speaker had stopped outputting any sound. a reboot fixed it.
I'm reforming my opinion on the battery issue though...the dock inherently uses some battery, and at the same time CPU Spy seems to think deep sleep is behaving normally. I'm guessing with normal usage i will be getting an extra 4 hours or so with the dock...definitely an improvement, but the end result is a little difficult to predict when you're watching those batteries drain while one is recharging the other...
i think as long as you're getting an acceptable (ie, within advertised range) extension of battery life from the dock, i'm not going to look at it too closely.
If i didn't see any time spent in deep sleep, then i might be more concerned.
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tdrussell said:
well i discovered for some reason the speaker had stopped outputting any sound. a reboot fixed it.
I'm reforming my opinion on the battery issue though...the dock inherently uses some battery, and at the same time CPU Spy seems to think deep sleep is behaving normally. I'm guessing with normal usage i will be getting an extra 4 hours or so with the dock...definitely an improvement, but the end result is a little difficult to predict when you're watching those batteries drain while one is recharging the other...
i think as long as you're getting an acceptable (ie, within advertised range) extension of battery life from the dock, i'm not going to look at it too closely.
If i didn't see any time spent in deep sleep, then i might be more concerned.
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Well, hmm... Seems like since ICS mine is now going into deep sleep as well. Hadn't checked, but mine was docked but closed (and asleep) almost all day today. CPU Spy shows it having been in deep sleep 73% of the time, which certainly seems right.
I'm still getting about 1.5%/hour on standby when docked, but then again it's keeping updated with emails, Twitter, calendar events, etc., with audible notifications. So, that's actually pretty good, all considered.
I unplugged at 100% dock and tablet power this morning a little bit before 7. wi-fi has been off all day and i haven't used it at all. at 6pm tonight, 11 hours after unplugging, the dock is at 100% and tablet at 99%.
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I unplugged at 100% dock and tablet power this morning a little bit before 7. wi-fi has been off all day and i haven't used it at all. at 6pm tonight, 11 hours after unplugging, the dock is at 100% and tablet at 99%.
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That thing was hibernating like a grizzly bear.
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Don't mean to steal the thread but where are you getting the docks from?
Hey guys i tried looking through for a bit and didnt find much on this...how is your TFP`s battery life? I`M not too happy to be honest, for instance today my battery is at 20% been on for 6 1/2 hours and havnt really done anything too intensive, mostly just web browsing and downloading apps, played a game for about 5 minutes. My touchpad seemed to get similar if not better battery life... anyone notice this too?
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Man, I have to try to kill the battery in a full days time. And that was before I got the keyboard.
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Man, I have to try to kill the battery in a full days time. And that was before I got the keyboard.
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I wish, I am at 3% and 7hrs 20m ...this really isnt good at all, brightness is at 50% ..any suggestions? I feel like i should be getting another 2 hours out of this.
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jb9217a said:
I wish, I am at 3% and 7hrs 20m ...this really isnt good at all, brightness is at 50% ..any suggestions? I feel like i should be getting another 2 hours out of this.
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It really depends on your setting, or how you use it... but saying that..
it isn't as "good" as Asus advertised, nor some other media/blogs have reported from their "hurried" interviews.
ICS update probably has something to do as well... I really don't think Asus and Nvidia has fully worked out Tegra 3 with ICS yet.
I think in normal use the processor is kept at too high a frequency. I rebooted about an hour ago, and since then mine has spent well over half the time at 1200MHz. Given what I've been doing, that seems like overkill. I think ASUS is still tweaking the power profiles, which might account for the apparent variation between revisions.
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plus wifi is a major killer if its set to ON while sleeping, or screen off. when i have wifi off, it lasts much longer
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I've been satisfied with battery life, not that I've timed it.
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I've timed it several times. Its your settings. I get longer than what you posted on my 1.6Ghz vipercontrol overclock. Stock settings easily get 9 or more hours. I always have my brightness low as its bright enough. Having it at 50% or more is a waste unless you outside LR have bad vision. At night I know you can't be having brightness up like that or you'll hurt your eyes looking St that bright screen. DISPLAY BRIGHTNESS is the biggest drainer of battery. Along with web surfing, watching flash videos, or streaming movies. If you doing all that, maybe use power savings mode instead. You can still surf web n all that with no problems plus battery will last even longer.
For me, my prime easily gets Asus advertised battery life n more sometimes. If I can run a 1.6Ghz overclock n get better than what y'all posted then you need to adjust your settings.
As with all battery life situations on Android, make sure you pay attention to the following:
Screen timeout, make sure the screen does not stay on for long when you are not using the device.
Look at your applications that schedule background tasks and auto synchronizations as well as the sync settings in your Accounts & Sync. Don't sync data that does not need to be sync'ed.
Use the balanced performance mode most of the time.
Turn off features that you do not need, such as GPS or bluetooth, if you are not using them.
Under developer options turn off 'animation scale' settings. This will make moving around menus more snappy since there's no transition time and it also saves a little bit processing power if you move around in Android menus a lot.
If you do not use WiFi, keep it off or at least turn off available network notifications so it would not constantly search for them.
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[*]Under developer options turn off 'animation scale' settings. This will make moving around menus more snappy since there's no transition time and it also saves a little bit processing power if you move around in Android menus a lot.
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On ICS it should be done by GPU, so I think it will affect battery life very, very little.
My concern is more about the keyboard/dock battery life.
It seems to drain a lot faster than the tablet and it never stays long at 100% ; always fall to 99 or 98% although the tablet is not under 90% yet.
I wonder if this is because I first charged the dock alone instead of charging it with the tablet on it.
Anybody sharing these feelings with me ?
I would say the reason is that dock always charges the tablet. I've also notified that dock's battery is empty in the morning if I left tablet and dock together during a night.
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My concern is more about the keyboard/dock battery life.
It seems to drain a lot faster than the tablet and it never stays long at 100% ; always fall to 99 or 98% although the tablet is not under 90% yet.
I wonder if this is because I first charged the dock alone instead of charging it with the tablet on it.
Anybody sharing these feelings with me ?
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Please use search, the 98%-99% thing has been discussed and asked over and over again for ages. Your battery never stays at 100%, neither the tablet or the dock.
Once battery reaches 100%, it stops being charged, otherwise it can damage the battery.
Dock battery discharges quicker because the dock battery is smaller than the tablet battery. The dock does not 'double' the battery life.
As of TF201 (differently from original TF101), dock starts charging the tablet once tablet falls near 70%. This makes sure that battery on the tablet (and dock) are used more efficiently and lasts longer (it goes through less cycles in the end). While this means that dock does not keep tablet at 100% all the time (so you can remove the tablet at 100% always), it does mean that battery life will not diminish as quick as before and you're prone to less hardware problems in battery in the long run.
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I wish, I am at 3% and 7hrs 20m ...this really isnt good at all, brightness is at 50% ..any suggestions? I feel like i should be getting another 2 hours out of this.
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The 50% brightness is most likely why you are seeing lower than expected battery life. Also, you should be in power saving mode if you are wanting to extend the battery as long as possible.
ASUS claims the Prime's battery lasts 12 hours using the following criteria: "Battery life tested under power saving mode, playing 720p video playback, Brightness:60nits, default volume with headphones."
http://usa.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201/#specifications
Not sure what 60nits corresponds to on the brightness selector but I am assuming it is low.
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The 50% brightness is most likely why you are seeing lower than expected battery life. Also, you should be in power saving mode if you are wanting to extend the battery as long as possible.
ASUS claims the Prime's battery lasts 12 hours using the following criteria: "Battery life tested under power saving mode, playing 720p video playback, Brightness:60nits, default volume with headphones."
http://usa.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201/#specifications
Not sure what 60nits corresponds to on the brightness selector but I am assuming it is low.
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Yeah , 60 nits is very low, especially since prime Max brightness is significantly way higher than that. Like 380 nits(unit of measurement for brightness) or more. BRIGHTEST tablet/display on the market today.
After posting last night I messed with YouTube and browsed for about an hour and only lost about 5% or so. Seems good to me.
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Please use search, the 98%-99% thing has been discussed and asked over and over again for ages. Your battery never stays at 100%, neither the tablet or the dock.
Once battery reaches 100%, it stops being charged, otherwise it can damage the battery.
Dock battery discharges quicker because the dock battery is smaller than the tablet battery. The dock does not 'double' the battery life.
As of TF201 (differently from original TF101), dock starts charging the tablet once tablet falls near 70%. This makes sure that battery on the tablet (and dock) are used more efficiently and lasts longer (it goes through less cycles in the end). While this means that dock does not keep tablet at 100% all the time (so you can remove the tablet at 100% always), it does mean that battery life will not diminish as quick as before and you're prone to less hardware problems in battery in the long run.
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Sorry, I red and searched a lot already in this forum but I missed that.
Just didn't think there was such a gap between a 22Wh battery and a 25Wh one. Thank you for your answer.
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Sorry, I red and searched a lot already in this forum but I missed that.
Just didn't think there was such a gap between a 22Wh battery and a 25Wh one. Thank you for your answer.
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I've noticed on both the Prime and my original Transformer that the dock battery does seem to discharge more quickly than expected when charging the Prime. It's not directly proportionate, I don't think, i.e., 22Wh is about 10% less than 25Wh, but I don't think the dock only discharges 10% faster when charging the Prime.
I think there's something about the charging process that makes it less efficient than simply powering the unit. Perhaps some power experts can chime in here and explain it... Certainly, I've noticed that charging the Prime from 70% to 100% can just about completely discharge the dock.
I've noticed the dock discharging faster if it's plugged into my usb port in my PC. I think the media mount takes more power than I thought it would.
When not connected to my PC through usb, the battery life is pretty long when doing regular web browsing and video watching.
Playing games obviously causes the battery to drain faster. Also the brightness also has a large affect on my overall battery life.
As others have said, turning off wifi when you're not using it will massively extend the battery life.
I got my prime last week and I keep my prime docked all the time except when I play games. This is because I dont have a proper casing for my prime and docking it would be the best way to protect the screen.
My question here is, will docking it 24/7 disrupt the battery life of the tablet?
Since it charges the tablet at random intervals, is it bad to constantly charge the tablet from the dock?
It doesnt charge randomly, it starts charging at around 70% until 90%, which is actually a good range to charge Lithium-Ion batteries! So you should be fine, relax
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I got my prime last week and I keep my prime docked all the time except when I play games. This is because I dont have a proper casing for my prime and docking it would be the best way to protect the screen.
My question here is, will docking it 24/7 disrupt the battery life of the tablet?
Since it charges the tablet at random intervals, is it bad to constantly charge the tablet from the dock?
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I am in same situation as you. I have ordered the Dual Case made by Minisuit from Amazon but I won't get it until later in March. I keep my Prime Docked 99% of the time and turn it Off and Keep on Charger when not in use.
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It doesnt charge randomly, it starts charging at around 70% until 90%, which is actually a good range to charge Lithium-Ion batteries! So you should be fine, relax
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true story
my prime is always docked, only when I'm playing games or occasionally while surfing on the sofa will I take it off the dock
The one annoying thing about keeping it docked is I haven't yet got any good data on what the battery life of the docked Prime is. The data shown in the settings only show the time that it is undocked or when the dock has run out of battery.
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This is because I dont have a proper casing for my prime and docking it would be the best way to protect the screen.
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FYI there have been a few reported cases of screens being cracked while docked without any drops or accidents. Some people seem to believe that the dock can put pressure on the screen because of how it closes. So keeping it in the dock might not actually be the best way to protect your screen. I never had the dock so I can't speak to the issue but check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530660
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498237
Mine is docked all the time. I am not at all worried about the screen cracking but if it does, I have a squaretrade ADH warranty
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Mine is docked all the time. I am not at all worried about the screen cracking but if it does, I have a squaretrade ADH warranty
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Same here.. but I'm adding in a screen protector, just in case.. not sure if that'll help much if the cracking is pressure related, but I figure what the heck.. why not?
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The one annoying thing about keeping it docked is I haven't yet got any good data on what the battery life of the docked Prime is. The data shown in the settings only show the time that it is undocked or when the dock has run out of battery.
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Try this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.flexlabs.widgets.dualbattery&hl=en
Stick it on the home screen, wait a day or so for it to collect data then click on the widget. The graph there is far better than the stock stats.
Hi boys and girls!
I bought a TFP (with sn: C3O) less than a week ago from NetOnNet in Sweden. I'm loving it! Damn what a piece of hardware . But I did notice one thing. The only problem I had with it. When docked and sleeping, the battery would drain insanely fast!!
I found that many ppl pointed at the option; "Stay Awake - Screen never sleeps while charging". But making sure that it's unticked doesn't seem to be enough. After digging some more online. I found that ticking it and then unticking it again made all the difference! . And it did for me too!
I went from losing (not actual numbers) 12% battery/hour to losing only 0,2%/hour. Hope this info helps. And if it does, spread the word! .
Edit: I polished the numbers abit. My Prime is crazy efficient nowadays, and have been ever since the fix . I just wanna add that you MAY have to redo the fix after installing a new firmware.
I'm sorry but where exactly is this stay awake option?
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Nevermind, it's in Developer Options (A quick google was enough )
currydude said:
I'm sorry but where exactly is this stay awake option?
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Nevermind, it's in Developer Options (A quick google was enough )
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Ahh yes, sorry bout that! I dont have me TFP here atm but it's in the Settings and then Developer Options. Me thinks atleast :$. It's the one that whines that performance may suffer if you tamper with them .
EDIT: Oh lol. Just saw that you Googled it >.<.
Mr_President said:
Hi boys and girls!
I bought a TFP (with sn: C3O) less than a week ago from NetOnNet in Sweden. I'm loving it! Damn what a piece of hardware :O. But I did notice one thing. The only problem I had with it. When docked and sleeping, the battery would drain insanely fast!!
I found that many ppl pointed at the option; "Stay Awake - Screen never sleeps while charging". But making sure that it's unticked doesn't seem to be enough. After digging some more online. I found that ticking it and then unticking it again made all the difference! :O. And it did for me too!
I went from losing (not actual numbers) 8% battery/hour to losing only 0,5%/hour. Hope this info helps. And if it does, spread the word! .
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I can confirm that this works, did it last night and no drain overnight.
fazerrider said:
I can confirm that this works, did it last night and no drain overnight.
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Awesome! . Nothing better than the feeling of helping others. If you install a new firmware you might have to redo the fix. Not sure about that since my came with the latest version available.
im still quite new to the tablet, can i just confirm that people are seeing this drain when the tablet is shutdown with a battery below 70%?
or is this happening when the tablet is left on and the dock is just emptying?
Hawke84 said:
im still quite new to the tablet, can i just confirm that people are seeing this drain when the tablet is shutdown with a battery below 70%?
or is this happening when the tablet is left on and the dock is just emptying?
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Yes, below 70% the dock kicks in and drains to 0% or something like 30%.
I think that depend on how low the tablet was and I think the dock stops charching the tablet when it has reached around 90%?
Shis really sucks, I would like to be able to stop the dock to auto-charge. That way I would be able to keep battery levels identical as when undocked and the tablet should only be charged when it's docked and in use.
Will this option ever be possible in stock or custom rom? Or is this "hardware-coded"?
Hawke84 said:
im still quite new to the tablet, can i just confirm that people are seeing this drain when the tablet is shutdown with a battery below 70%?
or is this happening when the tablet is left on and the dock is just emptying?
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For me the problem existed because the setting, Stay Awake, was "stuck". Which means that when the dock is connected to the tablet. The tablet thought that it was being charged, so it stayed awake. Using up lots of battery 24/7. Even when it was just idle/locked. And when the battery in the tablet dropped below 70% then the dock started charging it.
Problem is that since the tablet was using up lots of power, the docks power got drained. Cause it never managed to get the tablets power to 90%. At 90% it would've stopped charging it til the tablets power would've dropped below 70% again. Whew. Hope this answers your question .
I'm thinking that you could have the tablet and dock connected but instead of having them idle/locked you could turn them off completely. Should work. But that's not very practical now is it? =/.
Thanks will try this out!
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Yes, below 70% the dock kicks in and drains to 0% or something like 30%.
I think that depend on how low the tablet was and I think the dock stops charching the tablet when it has reached around 90%?
Shis really sucks, I would like to be able to stop the dock to auto-charge. That way I would be able to keep battery levels identical as when undocked and the tablet should only be charged when it's docked and in use.
Will this option ever be possible in stock or custom rom? Or is this "hardware-coded"?
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I believe there is an option in the dock settings to change what percentage it starts to charge the tablet I'm not positive though because I don't have my prime in front of me but do remember seeing something about it.
Again I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure you can change it.
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Frostbiter said:
I believe there is an option in the dock settings to change what percentage it starts to charge the tablet I'm not positive though because I don't have my prime in front of me but do remember seeing something about it.
Again I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure you can change it.
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I don't think there is, I can't find one
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Hawke84 said:
I don't think there is, I can't find one
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Me neither..that's the main reason I asked
But...stilll..... it could solve all my (and many others) dock-drain-problems
Hey guys,
Has anyone figured out a way to limit the charging from the dock to the tablet? As in not for the tablet to charge at 75% battery life, to drop it to say 25% the only charge to 50% to try and preserve the life of the batteries, as it seems the tablet will lose battery life due to a 'constant' charge
like a laptop you can set power settings up so that your laptop doesnt charge unless needed when plugged into the power source.
I just want to know if it can be done
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84DGR said:
Hey guys,
Has anyone figured out a way to limit the charging from the dock to the tablet? As in not for the tablet to charge at 75% battery life, to drop it to say 25% the only charge to 50% to try and preserve the life of the batteries, as it seems the tablet will lose battery life due to a 'constant' charge
like a laptop you can set power settings up so that your laptop doesnt charge unless needed when plugged into the power source.
I just want to know if it can be done
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I honestly never thought of this, but I gotta say that's a really good idea. What's the point of charging through the dock if eventually, the battery in the dock is gonna run out? I would love it if anyone could figure this out.
Likewise, i know it's somewhere in the power settings yet its fnding out how to do it, and hopefully you dont have to root it or be running a custom rom, if it could be an app install that does it even better, there are some apps that look at the power consumption yet this one would be to turn off / edit the charge protocol
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From what i have seen even when keyboard dock says no battery (after completely transferring it to tablet) it runs without any problem. It either has some reserve or gets powered by tablet.
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Gabewalters said:
I honestly never thought of this, but I gotta say that's a really good idea. What's the point of charging through the dock if eventually, the battery in the dock is gonna run out? I would love it if anyone could figure this out.
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By charging from the dock when the Prime runs down to around 75%, it keeps the Prime charged up longer as in for around 18 hours instead of the 12 hours the tablet alone is rated to deliver.
Even if the keyboard dock becomes completely depleted, it will still work fine as it draws current from the tablet's battery even while it is "charging" the tablet.
The battery in the dock is only there to charge the tablet, it serves no other purpose.
I interpreted the question as 'this mode of operation is bad for the battery cause it can only cope with XXX charge cycles'
I think it's a limitation in the charging circuit that makes it impossible to run off DC input only (with the battery offline), and the battery technology prohibits a constant float charge of the cells.
It might be possible to tweak the end-of-charge current to closer match the 'on' consumption of the tablet (but in what state), so 95-99% charge takes much longer, but probably only in the kernel. It's not worth the effort for my money...
ksekhar said:
From what i have seen even when keyboard dock says no battery (after completely transferring it to tablet) it runs without any problem. It either has some reserve or gets powered by tablet.
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Pretty sure it just draws power from the tablet once the dock battery is dead.
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you're right on the money,
so that i could leave it plugged in for extended amounts of time, I dont want the battery life to die out before i get a good amount of use out of it
I have started to notice it is already not last the 18 -19 hrs as promised and ive had mine for about 3 months
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