Well, we all know the ray has 512 MB of RAM built in. But if you use tools like Android Assistant, it tells you you can only use about 332 MB of it. I searched in other forums and found out, the "hidden" part of the RAM is reserved for the gpu. My question now: is there a way to reallocate the RAM and get some of the reserved available for user apps? Because i constantly get freezes wit oom.
I dont how to do it , but i am also disappoint when i saw ray has only 315+ RAM , sony site says ray has 512 MB
I am sure if we try to re allocate it we will get problems , why not you try cyanogenmod ?
it is faster and less RAM intensive
i am running on cyanogenmod 7.2 , but if i use launchers like spb shell 3d , my free ram, even at reboot, max caps at 110 mb. thats nothing.
JayanWarden said:
Well, we all know the ray has 512 MB of RAM built in. But if you use tools like Android Assistant, it tells you you can only use about 332 MB of it. I searched in other forums and found out, the "hidden" part of the RAM is reserved for the gpu. My question now: is there a way to reallocate the RAM and get some of the reserved available for user apps? Because i constantly get freezes wit oom.
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i think is possible but it will be worst! most of the phone speed is given by the gpu (example samsung galaxy ace has 800MHz but lower gpu alocated memory and the phone speed is a disaster)
I think the only way to 'gain' some extra RAM is enabling SWAP.
On my old samsung, I once had a swap partition of 256 to extend the memory.
The good: you have real extra ram
The bad :
-swapping is slowing down the phone, as the sd-card speed is never sufficient.
-SD-card will die sooner, as you read/write a lot to same partition.
So swapping is not advised to my opinion, and others.
Some way to make some memory free (and speed up your phone) :
Use a clean rom (like 4pda.ru) and with the "autostarts" tool, try to disable android apps that automatically try to start itself at boot, startup or other events.
I found out that a lot of android apps try to start themselves even when you plug in the power cable (google maps for example), or connectivity changed, application installed etc.
With the autostarts tool (or rom toolbox) you can influence these triggers to prevent apps to startup themselves in the background.
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Hello!
I've had the atrix for a couple of days now, and have noticed that some ram is disappearing.
I use advanced task killer, but I don't have it set to autokill. Instead, I just press the widget as a kill button occasionally throughout the day. I haven't modded the application to kill certain things, or to not kill certain things. It is functioning just as it is downloaded.
So in the morning, after a fresh restart, i pressed the kill switch and i had 550 mb of ram (roughly). This was constant for a few hours. then around lunch time, i pressed kill switch and i had 460 something. Than now around dinner time I have only 370 something mb of ram.
Is there something that I'm missing? Like system apps opening throughout the day that are unaffected by task killer?
Anyone have any advice as to managing apps because the atrix (and motoblur) try to run a lot of them.
Also, I thought this phone has 1 GB of ram. I guess some of it is tied up in things behind the curtain
Check the ram usage on your computer, install a few programs that have services that run, then look at your ram usage.
Same thing.
regarding the ram usage. I cant figure out what the phone is doing with 500mb of ram all the time. This os is able to run on other android devices with only 512mb of ram and consistently have 200-300 free mb of ram. What is the Atrix doing with all that ram?
being prepared for docking...
Webtop/media center/ etc...
skaboss610 said:
regarding the ram usage. I cant figure out what the phone is doing with 500mb of ram all the time. This os is able to run on other android devices with only 512mb of ram and consistently have 200-300 free mb of ram. What is the Atrix doing with all that ram?
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RAM not used is analogous to RAM not present in a way.
Android loads and keeps apps ready in memory for quick launch times. They are just loaded and kept, 0 CPU usage for any of them.
If u want to know more, check the thread 'android memory management' (link in my signature).
How much free ram memory xperia mini have ?
And does it have 512mb total ram or something like 418mb ?
Story is the Xperia has 512M of RAM, but 177M or so of RAM are taken up by the O/S. Leaving something along the lines of 335M free for other apps.
I don't know why all the programs that report memory don't show the memory reserved by the O/S.
Would be interested in knowing if such an app exists.
Mike
can u post screenshot of ram memory status ? so if i'am understand u, xperia have 335mb free ram with stock rom ? thats cool
Sejk97 said:
can u post screenshot of ram memory status ? so if i'am understand u, xperia have 335mb free ram with stock rom ? thats cool
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That's the theoretical amount of memory, when I run max kill, I end up with 191MB.
If you go by the utilities they show you total memory its 335mb
Mike
ok, than it have 355mb ram not 512mb is 191mb of ram enought to run hd games ?
Sejk97 said:
ok, than it have 355mb ram not 512mb is 191mb of ram enought to run hd games ?
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It's truly 512MB RAM, but the operating system (Android) also occupies RAM, for example in panamamike's case, the OS uses 191MB for its running so the amount of RAM left for other programs is about 512 - 191 = 355MB RAM.
I haven't tried any HD games but you can watch these videos :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tf5SpYnvII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wNx6ZnUgvM
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It's truly 512MB RAM, but the operating system (Android) also occupies RAM, for example in panamamike's case, the OS uses 191MB for its running so the amount of RAM left for other programs is about 512 - 191 = 355MB RAM.
I haven't tried any HD games but you can watch these videos :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tf5SpYnvII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wNx6ZnUgvM
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Actually, the math goes like this.
512MB total - 177MB [Hidden by Android for system] - (166-170MB) [Android O/S apps] 22MB [Kernel] approx 143MB available to the user. Max Kill, kills some of the Android O/S stuff, but it starts right back up automatically. I don't know enough to determine if I can really turn some of that stuff off, but ATM I'm just letting it go.
Also note, if we could root the phone, there are applications that SE has installed as part of the O/S that could be removed to free up more memory.
It's a bit disheartening to see such little memory truly available. I don't know what typical HD games need to run.
Mike
i don't understand, if system hide 177mb ram for system, why he(system) double use ram memory ? 1. 177mb and 2. 166-177mb(for os and apps) why ?
never mind, thast cool phone..
Most apps/games store the big files /data on yer sdcard. The app needs to have this feature implemented.
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I have a " samsung galaxy player 4 ". I was wounder how much memory ( RAM ) it has ?
I thought i had 512.... but its only showing like half that, why ?
Thanks
savvymatthew said:
I thought i had 512.... but its only showing like half that, why ?
Thanks
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The OS e.g. Android and Touchwiz use up about 100mb RAM for itself leaving only 300-400mb for the user. My HTC Desire S has 768mb but really i can only use 623mb hope this helps.
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The OS e.g. Android and Touchwiz use up about 100mb RAM for itself leaving only 300-400mb for the user. My HTC Desire S has 768mb but really i can only use 623mb hope this helps.
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Is there a way to install a mod to free up some of the RAM the OS uses? Or a lighter android that doesn't use quite as much?
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Is there a way to install a mod to free up some of the RAM the OS uses? Or a lighter android that doesn't use quite as much?
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I would recommend a 3rd party launcher like ADW Launcher on Android market very light weight, also a app like memory booster which frees RAM. Their are no such mods to change the file system usage as changing the amount of RAM the system needs could result in a unstable device. I have a Galaxy wifi 5.0 with 512mb RAM and the 200mb left is enough for me without lag etc. hope this helps
I recommend using Advanced Task Killer. It has a very easy interface, and frees up ram quickly.
What does it say for ram on the player.... I have seen 377... and 345.
I have 345 and Im pretty pissed about it.
I have 342mb of RAM available. But I heard that around 100+ mb are dedicated to the gpu on the galaxy s phone, and the galaxy player has the same hardware so should be the same. So I think it still has 512mb of ram, but just 342 is usable by Android.
Have a look at the output of dmesg (e.g. run the following in a terminal and copy the resultant file to your PC to view: dmesg > dmesg_output.txt) and it tells you how much memory you have and how much has been set aside. Note you will probably want to reboot before you do this as otherwise the interesting messages have scrolled out of the kernel message buffer.
I've been using an app called Fast Reboot Pro. It appears to simply close processes that are running in the background. It then shows you how much memory was was freed. I hit every so often and especially when things appear to lag. Seem to work pretty well.
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I've been using an app called Fast Reboot Pro. It appears to simply close processes that are running in the background. It then shows you how much memory was was freed. I hit every so often and especially when things appear to lag. Seem to work pretty well.
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Gingerbread/Samsung has it's own task manager which in turn has it's own widget which does this. No need to install an app for this
I to use fast reboot, find it much more effective than what the player comes with. I also use ram manager pro witch is a very good tool to set different ram profiles, I like "balance (more free memory)" the best. I first select my profile, then I run fast reboot, very effective! The more you run fast reboot, the more memory it frees up, witch is great for big games like asphalt 6. Also, I use zeam launcher, very lightweight, perhaps the lightest, but still a great improvement over touchwiz. Another thing, NO LIVE WALLPAPERS is an absolute necessary! These things eat WAY more ram than they say on taskmanager. THEY CAN EAT 50+ MB OF RAM!! Also, services like widgetlockscreen and such will eat your ram. If you want to play a heavy game, go to running services and kill as many as you can, you can also clear cached apps by hitting the menu button in running services. Hope these tips help you to make the most of our small supply of ram!
Hmm, after more testing, it would appear that wifi burns around 25mb of ram when on! So, if your really short on ram, just turn on airplane mode to kill all antennas. I just played modern combat 3 with 25mb free ram throughout the whole level I had 190mb free originally, that game sure eats the stuff :s The CPU rides at 1000mhz through the whole game, lol, could always use some more of that stuff! That's what oc is for
Does anybody know - why virtual space crashes while playing online game???* i use call of duty : mobile*| my ram is ~ 3 gb
i checked, when i normally play [without virtual] my free ram is :700+- [not accurately]
but when i play in virtual space,*my free ram is :500+- [not accurately]
i edited*LOW MEMORY KILLER*- VISIBLE APP to 0 mb, so that virtual doesnt crash... but yet, it crashes...*
i checked many popular & unpopular virtual... some crashes at loading point | some crashes at gaming period
does anybody have any theorical knowledge - how & why it happen??
ANY INFORMATION IS APPRECIATED
App's name is errleading, IMHO. Virtual Space (VS) is simply an app cloner what puts a copy of apps / games into an isolated / separated space in your device's storage memory. VS is a hacking tool.
VS can be considered as an Android emulator where you can launch apps from. VS itself eats some MBs of device's RAM ( as you noticed ~200MB ) because it's merely an app like any other Android app. COD eats ~1.5GB RAM. Thus running COD via VS takes at minimum ~1.7GB RAM.
My suggestion: Completely clear phone's recent list to ensure no apps are running in background.
BTW: Android OS ( depends on version ) takes ~500MB RAM.
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App's name is errleading, IMHO. Virtual Space (VS) is simply an app cloner what puts a copy of apps / games into an isolated / separated space in your device's storage memory. VS is a hacking tool.
VS can be considered as an Android emulator where you can launch apps from. VS itself eats some MBs of device's RAM ( as you noticed ~200MB ) because it's merely an app like any other Android app. COD eats ~1.5GB RAM. Thus running COD via VS takes at minimum ~1.7GB RAM.
My suggestion: Completely clear phone's recent list to ensure no apps are running in background.
BTW: Android OS ( depends on version ) takes ~500MB RAM.
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normally, when i m in home & not running anything i have 1300+- mb free...
btw another thing, i saw a thing... when the match started & i m just standing...not moving at all... then games run...
but when i move... within 5-6 second, game crash...
so, i thing this is codm protection, right?
i also tried sudohide... but no chance
nishat islam said:
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my ram is ~ 3 gb
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normally, when i m in home & not running anything i have 1300+- mb free...
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Wondering what is taking up 1.7GB RAM?
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Wondering what is taking up 1.7GB RAM?
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check these screenshot
@nishat islam
As I suspected: the memory problem is homemade, you have too many apps open.
Hiya, when i play a game, PowerAmp and other music apps gets killed, here's the error message PowerAmp gives.
Poweramp was killed
Poweramp has detected it was killed during an active playback, probably by some battery saver, task killer, etc.
Please disable such optimization for Poweramp and Poweramp full version
Unlocker (botch can be killed together) in the apps settings
all help appreciate
Add some GB of RAM.
This never happened before though, all i have changed since is, changed the launcher and the new launcher uses even less RAM :/
Also, as far as my knowledge, you can't add more RAM to a Amazon Fire 7
ComputerTech312 said:
Also, as far as my knowledge, you can't add more RAM to a Amazon Fire 7
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You always can use a certain amount of internal storage memory as SWAP memory ( read: virtual memory ). More info here:
android virtual ram – Make an innovation of technology!!!!
Posts about android virtual ram written by droidappspro
droidappspro.wordpress.com
Yeah my phone isn't rooted though, and i won't root incase of bricking my phone :/
This seems good though
SWAP - No ROOT - Apps on Google Play
Create SWAP file without ROOT.
play.google.com
Hm, does that just create a swap file? or does it actually work?
IMO phone's Android must be rooted to set up a SWAP file. Reason is the SWAP file must get added to Android's system file named /fstab in order to get mounted when Android boots up. And operating on Android's system files requires root.
See also here:
[TOOL][ADB][WIN][ROOT]Android Virtual RAM Creator
THIS TOOL REQUIRES ANDROID IS ROOTED ! In order to work properly an Android device depends on having an adequate amount of RAM ( read: physical memory ). Simply saying that there can never be enough. The more RAM is installed the better it is...
forum.xda-developers.com
Yeah, it's a shortage of RAM. The Amazon tablets are great values but with only 2GB of RAM, it often kicks background processes out of memory.
svetius said:
Yeah, it's a shortage of RAM. The Amazon tablets are great values but with only 2GB of RAM, it often kicks background processes out of memory.
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1GB RAM on mine
although before upgrading to new launcher, it never did this before, and i found out the new launcher uses less RAM than the old one :/