[Q] Benefits of rooting device without unlocking bootloader? - Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro

Hello guys,im a total noob on android scene,so i would like your advice.I have Neo V without the latest update (4.0.62) and i'd like to root my device without unlock bootloader(with unofficial method is difficult and im not trying official method because i want official ics on April).So what are the benefits of rooting my device with locked bootloader?Can i run cm7?Is overclocking possible?Can i update to ics when se release it?I would like to have control on my own device(remove useless se applications,more battery life e.t.c) and i dont have problem read a lot of guides.Im a total noob,so if you have guides for everything that i should know please share them.
Thanks,
specialistas4

specialistas4 said:
Hello guys,im a total noob on android scene,so i would like your advice.I have Neo V without the latest update (4.0.62) and i'd like to root my device without unlock bootloader(with unofficial method is difficult and im not trying official method because i want official ics on April).So what are the benefits of rooting my device with locked bootloader?Can i run cm7?Is overclocking possible?Can i update to ics when se release it?I would like to have control on my own device(remove useless se applications,more battery life e.t.c) and i dont have problem read a lot of guides.Im a total noob,so if you have guides for everything that i should know please share them.
Thanks,
specialistas4
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Read....read mate. Full forum about rooting with any conditions.
If you want cm7 and overclock option....then you MUST unlock bootloader.
Want ICS....unlock...because we have already unoffical ICS.
Sent via MIUI 2.1.13

Also, you can relock the bootloader if you want an official update.

sdk16420 said:
Also, you can relock the bootloader if you want an official update.
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Thanks guys!how can I do that if I unlock bootloader from Sony's official site?

specialistas4 said:
Thanks guys!how can I do that if I unlock bootloader from Sony's official site?
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how about searching the Neo forums for relock bootloader?
Kiwi

specialistas4 said:
Thanks guys!how can I do that if I unlock bootloader from Sony's official site?
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You can try this

Search and read and you will find it, go to my signature and yes the blue one
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[Q] Further Info Needed

Hi all members & developers.
It has been a long time since I've been here.
So if someone can tell me: what is the best ROM right know, how to install them, an update of 4.0 Ice Cream..
So if anyone has any free time,please respond.
Cheers!
iMatth3w said:
Hi all members & developers.
It has been a long time since I've been here.
So if someone can tell me: what is the best ROM right know, how to install them, an update of 4.0 Ice Cream..
So if anyone has any free time,please respond.
Cheers!
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the only port of 4.0 is still in alpha and not stable,
As for best rom...try wolfs if you like stock, fxp if you like cm and there are loads of miui roms...take your pick
PS, best to unlock bootloader and use doomkernel v06 as well
I know that this is a stupid question, but what is the key of unlocking the bootloader?
iMatth3w said:
I know that this is a stupid question, but what is the key of unlocking the bootloader?
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directly loaded custom kernels with more features.
cwm recovery
cyanogen official support
iMatth3w said:
I know that this is a stupid question, but what is the key of unlocking the bootloader?
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Use latest flashtool and press plugins then unlock and follow the instructions
If u had sim unlocked ur phone using any software on pc or tool then unlocking bootloader will break ur radio
Oh and if u unlocked network using setool2 then u can unlock bootloader but then its a different procedure

Root and OC

Hi, I will have SE Xperia Neo V, and I have 2 questions:
1. Root - I update my phone SEUS and I want to root my xperia. How to do it? am looking for an easy way.
2. OC - I wanted to speed up the phone using OC and Smartass v2. How is the easiest way to upload?
In both cases I will not unblock the bootloader! Must stay stock rom and kernel, only OC and root will be in my phone.
Please help me.
Sorry for english, google translator help me
Make your life better and unlock bootloader
About rooting we have many noob tutorials.
OC you get only with unlocked bootloader.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
Ok, thaks, but if I unlock bootloader via Sony's Official website and I lose official phone updates via SEUS/PCC can I relock bootloader http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134335 and I after that I will be can update to 4.0 ICS with SEUS or PCC?
Pavl0o said:
Ok, thaks, but if I unlock bootloader via Sony's Official website and I lose official phone updates via SEUS/PCC can I relock bootloader http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134335 and I after that I will be can update to 4.0 ICS with SEUS or PCC?
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Very simple... Yes !! But the final ICS is not out yet only beta for unlocked bl.
edit: but why you are starting a new topic?? You can ask this in general thread because there is a general chat for qeustions etc, so its simpler and you get the same answers there
Pavl0o said:
Ok, thaks, but if I unlock bootloader via Sony's Official website and I lose official phone updates via SEUS/PCC can I relock bootloader http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134335 and I after that I will be can update to 4.0 ICS with SEUS or PCC?
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Yes. Unlocking and relocking giving you OFFICAL updates.
And with OTA, SEUS and PC Companion I will be can update after relock?
And I will be update Neo V to official 4.0 and and it is important to me
I recommend use Flashtool!!
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No, only SEUS, OTA, PC Companion, official ICS will be first in this, in flashtool later...
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So, I will be can update my phone via PC Companion, SEUS and OTA after relock bootloader? I use Sony Ericsson official method.
Pavl0o said:
So, I will be can update my phone via PC Companion, SEUS and OTA after relock bootloader? I use Sony Ericsson official method.
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You already got answer so why asking again?
To be honest not sure about ota but pc comp. and seus will work. ota should work 99%.
locked or unlocked your still going to get it but probably before with unlocked boot loader because carrers will still need to push update not that's what's going to take the time
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so close this thread !!
Pandemic said:
so close this thread !!
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lol, why?
Maybe he, or someone else, will have more questions about root and OC
And hopefully next user will find it and post it here if it's related to OP's question, instead opening new thread.
Madfysh said:
lol, why?
Maybe he, or someone else, will have more questions about root and OC
And hopefully next user will find it and post it here if it's related to OP's question, instead opening new thread.
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Hahaha why ???
there is a general chat(look in my sig) so peeps or he, can ask over there thats a way easier.
Edit: so i think thats kinda useless to let this thread open for others because there are many other threads, so he must search and he will find !!
i am also crazy for ICS 4.0 , so i wanna know , OTA update (for ICS)is ok for my rooted NEO V ? not unlocked bootloader , @aarush says no problem will be faced ....
darky22 said:
i am also crazy for ICS 4.0 , so i wanna know , OTA update (for ICS)is ok for my rooted NEO V ? not unlocked bootloader , @aarush says no problem will be faced ....
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lol, ICS is still in beta, so still no official version out
how would you OTA update to ICS??

[Q] Xperia Mini Pro Questions

Hello
Just purchased a SK17i Xperia Mini Pro Black Version that is locked to 02 (UK network). I am obvously new to all this stuff but do have a basic understanding but here are some questions:
1) I am thinking of waiting until Android 4.0 is Officially released by SE to update my phone (btw, anyone know when the update is coming). Was wondering when I update will I still be able to root my phone?
2) When I root (if I can) I want to install Set CPU to overclock my phone. However I have heard this drains batteries? Is this true and if so how can I make my phone faster?
3) I need to unlock my phone. Can this be done for free after rooting? If not, can someone link me to the cheapest place I can get this unlocked from?
Thanks in advance to anyone that answers
Hey dude,welcome to XMP family.
1)According to Xperia Blog,XMP will get the ICS update in the end of May or early June,after the first wave for arcS,neoV and ray.I don't know whether we can root it on official ICS or not,but I think to get a rooted phone is easy once you unlock the bootloader,and besides,there are so many developers here.
2)When it comes to overclocking,apparently it would cause battery drain faster.But with my experience,I hardly feel its difference on SE stock Rom.As for custom rom like FXP's,which I has used for a while,it drains about 2~3% per hour while idle(drop speed is two times than stock.)
3)Certainly you can unlock your phone for free,see this thread & tutorial.But it should be noticed that once you unlock it then you may invalidate your warranty.
Mine is on FXP CM9(ICS) and it's kind of laggy,but I can't tell it's because of the ICS rom or existed bugs.As SE said,we may not have the same experience like Gingerbread if we update to ICS.
noradoor said:
Hey dude,welcome to XMP family.
1)According to Xperia Blog,XMP will get the ICS update in the end of May or early June,after the first wave for arcS,neoV and ray.I don't know whether we can root it on official ICS or not,but I think to get a rooted phone is easy once you unlock the bootloader,and besides,there are so many developers here.
2)When it comes to overclocking,apparently it would cause battery drain faster.But with my experience,I hardly feel its difference on SE stock Rom.As for custom rom like FXP's,which I has used for a while,it drains about 2~3% per hour while idle(drop speed is two times than stock.)
3)Certainly you can unlock your phone for free,see this thread & tutorial.But it should be noticed that once you unlock it then you may invalidate your warranty.
Mine is on FXP CM9(ICS) and it's kind of laggy,but I can't tell it's because of the ICS rom or existed bugs.As SE said,we may not have the same experience like Gingerbread if we update to ICS.
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Hello mate, thanks for the great post
I think I will leave stock ROM once updated actually, seems to be running fine atm as it is.
I think I will still update to the official ICS when it comes out as does look worth it.
Just about no. 3) I think your talking about after rooting, the process to get custom ROMs by unlocking the bootloader? I was talking about the network? lol
Unless I'm mistaken?
Thanks again
subbyhasan said:
Hello mate, thanks for the great post
I think I will leave stock ROM once updated actually, seems to be running fine atm as it is.
I think I will still update to the official ICS when it comes out as does look worth it.
Just about no. 3) I think your talking about after rooting, the process to get custom ROMs by unlocking the bootloader? I was talking about the network? lol
Unless I'm mistaken?
Thanks again
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There is no way to get your phone unlocked from a network for free but WontanServer offers an unlocking for $15. You can try that out. Just type WontanServer in Google and click the 1st link. WontanServer is legit and won't steal your money
Though as a warning you might not be able to update to ICS as it also might unlock your bootloader. Just double check, as I am not 100% sure. Also it will void your warranty
BudgyN1 said:
There is no way to get your phone unlocked from a network for free but WontanServer offers an unlocking for $15. You can try that out. Just type WontanServer in Google and click the 1st link. WontanServer is legit and won't steal your money
Though as a warning you might not be able to update to ICS as it also might unlock your bootloader. Just double check, as I am not 100% sure. Also it will void your warranty
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Thanks alot, will take a look at that website
What do you mean by updating to ICS will unlock my bootloader? Isn't that a good thing? Don't mind about warranty, can have that sorted out but don't understand the bold line mate
Thanks
good thing in the sense? If you don't bother about warranty then you can try custom ROM ics.but the problem is some bugs are not fixed by developers they will take time.main bug is camera not working..i am using ics so just check k? Good luck
Xperian8~ click thanks if it helps...
subbyhasan said:
What do you mean by updating to ICS will unlock my bootloader? Isn't that a good thing? Don't mind about warranty, can have that sorted out but don't understand the bold line mate
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He meant that the Wotanserver network-unlock method might unlock your bootloader (which it does). This bootloader unlock, whilst giving you access to custom ROMs etc, might not behave with official SONY updates (such as ICS) - I'd link you for proof but I'm not allowed to due to my low post count .
Also, Google 'Omnius Unlock'. They will unlock your phone for free over the next few days (Easter promotion). I'm not sure how reputable those guys are though so you'll want to check.
Thanks for that Omnius Lock thing, looks great and will check it out
So, if I unlock it I may be unable to upgrade to 4.0? That is a bit stupid to say the least? Anyone on an Xperia that was unlocked then ugraded to 4.0? Did it become locked again?
subbyhasan said:
Thanks for that Omnius Lock thing, looks great and will check it out
So, if I unlock it I may be unable to upgrade to 4.0? That is a bit stupid to say the least? Anyone on an Xperia that was unlocked then ugraded to 4.0? Did it become locked again?
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If your phone's bootloader is unlocked you can not recieve any official update through Sony as it will brick your phone but you can install a ICS ROM.
subbyhasan said:
Thanks for that Omnius Lock thing, looks great and will check it out
So, if I unlock it I may be unable to upgrade to 4.0? That is a bit stupid to say the least? Anyone on an Xperia that was unlocked then ugraded to 4.0? Did it become locked again?
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Well I'm not sure about 'stupid', you'll have to weigh it up. If you look in the development section, there's already a very useable version of ICS (look for MiniCMSanwich), which is potentially better than Sony's bloatware-infused and themed version (not to mention probably unrootable) due in a couple of months.
I think it's mainly FOTA bricks that happen (over-the air updating from Sony), and some bootloader unlocks allow for this by just patching the bootloader to make it seem unlocked (any SETool unlock will do this). So there are a number of options.
Be careful also of some bootloader methods stripping the DRM keys, these are used by Sony services like TrackID, which will cease to work (permanently) following a bootloader unlock.
Edit: There's a distinct difference between a network unlock and a bootloader unlock, the former will nearly always also execute the latter, but the latter can be done by itself (obviously only on unbranded phones). The method of getting a custom ROM is basically network unlock > bootloader unlock > root > install custom kernel > install custom ROM. Root can be done before the unlocks, I believe.
I'm new to all this too, only trying to explain because I know how much of a total pain it was to work it all out .
BudgyN1 said:
If your phone's bootloader is unlocked you can not recieve any official update through Sony as it will brick your phone but you can install a ICS ROM.
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He is talking about network lock.
Network lock stays away, updating probably won't lock it again, but no one has tried and we do not have any sure information
Sent from my WT19i using xda premium
notoxa said:
Well I'm not sure about 'stupid', you'll have to weigh it up. If you look in the development section, there's already a very useable version of ICS (look for MiniCMSanwich), which is potentially better than Sony's bloatware-infused and themed version (not to mention probably unrootable) due in a couple of months.
I think it's mainly FOTA bricks that happen (over-the air updating from Sony), and some bootloader unlocks allow for this by just patching the bootloader to make it seem unlocked (any SETool unlock will do this). So there are a number of options.
Be careful also of some bootloader methods stripping the DRM keys, these are used by Sony services like TrackID, which will cease to work (permanently) following a bootloader unlock.
Edit: There's a distinct difference between a network unlock and a bootloader unlock, the former will nearly always also execute the latter, but the latter can be done by itself (obviously only on unbranded phones). The method of getting a custom ROM is basically network unlock > bootloader unlock > root > install custom kernel > install custom ROM. Root can be done before the unlocks, I believe.
I'm new to all this too, only trying to explain because I know how much of a total pain it was to work it all out .
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Ah, right. Makes everything at lot clearer thanks
So if I do unlock through the Wotanserver place, my bootloader will be unlocked but I wouldn't be able to get official ICS, but a just as good if not better copy? Is the ROM fully stable as in does everything function fine? I have heard of an ICS ROM which stopped HD recording on Xperias. Does this have any such problem?
Someguyfromhell said:
He is talking about network lock.
Network lock stays away, updating probably won't lock it again, but no one has tried and we do not have any sure information
Sent from my WT19i using xda premium
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Hopefully will but doubt I can update now anyways
Can I just say thank you to every single poster on this thread. You have all been immensely helpful. There are few forums which reply so quickly and as well as many people on here have done so thanks a lot to everyone
ya noob question
but help..
im not able to load the ftf file or even see it from the flashtool
i put it in the firmware folder
check the image i attached and see if you can help
lord.tomriddle said:
ya noob question
but help..
im not able to load the ftf file or even see it from the flashtool
i put it in the firmware folder
check the image i attached and see if you can help
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What you on about mate? Make your own thread
Also, just a quick question to add: Do I have to go to SE to get my boot loader unlocked? Or will it automatically unlock with Flashtool when I flash the Kernel?
Thanks
subbyhasan said:
What you on about mate? Make your own thread
Also, just a quick question to add: Do I have to go to SE to get my boot loader unlocked? Or will it automatically unlock with Flashtool when I flash the Kernel?
Thanks
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MY flashtooll aint showing the ftf files..
and you need to unlock bootloader..
got to http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
you can also use the program called SE Bootloader unloker-relocker.Its very simple to unlock it,easyer than ofical way on se website.
piotrasss87 said:
you can also use the program called SE Bootloader unloker-relocker.Its very simple to unlock it,easyer than ofical way on se website.
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Thanks for that, do you have a link for me which I can use?
And just generally, can I add that this is the way to get MiniCMSanwich ROM on my XMP:
Root (zerg's software) (not needed but useful so might as well do it then)
Unlock Bootloader (from SE's website or the link which hopefully the above poster/someone else gives me)
Kernel Installation (Flashtool)
Finally, flash the ROM and Gapps using Clockwork Mod Recovery
Thanks
piotrasss87 said:
you can also use the program called SE Bootloader unloker-relocker.Its very simple to unlock it,easyer than ofical way on se website.
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It is the same unlock method, just everything brought to one place by that app maker.
Rooting your phone before custom ROM installation is not needed, because old ROM(stock) gets deleted anyway and custom ROMs include root already.
Someguyfromhell said:
It is the same unlock method, just everything brought to one place by that app maker.
Rooting your phone before custom ROM installation is not needed, because old ROM(stock) gets deleted anyway and custom ROMs include root already.
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Ah, right will probably leave it then
Thanks a lot
As I said its make much easyer
there you go mate http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560613

[Q] Need a little guidance for rooting

Ok so i want to root my sk17i ...
but its updated to .62 firmware....
I have seen this thread ... that it will downgrade n root my device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842366
Q1)when i'm done with that can i update n still stay rooted?
Q2) What is bootloader n after following above thread will my bootloader b unlocked? if not do i need to unlock it using this method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1879750
Q3) what are kernels and roms?
Q4) I want to install jelly bean in it? can u suggest a good stable rom for it? with no or minimum bugs that is final n not in testing stage? i'm asking for this coz i read some users installed wrong rom got their touch bricked
Q5) before doing anything i want to take backup? can u tell me a thread how to back up n restore just in case i mess up?
thnx in advance
tarunjeet said:
Ok so i want to root my sk17i ...
but its updated to .62 firmware....
I have seen this thread ... that it will downgrade n root my device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842366
Q1)when i'm done with that can i update n still stay rooted?
Q2) What is bootloader n after following above thread will my bootloader b unlocked? if not do i need to unlock it using this method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1879750
Q3) what are kernels and roms?
Q4) I want to install jelly bean in it? can u suggest a good stable rom for it? with no or minimum bugs that is final n not in testing stage? i'm asking for this coz i read some users installed wrong rom got their touch bricked
Q5) before doing anything i want to take backup? can u tell me a thread how to back up n restore just in case i mess up?
thnx in advance
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If you follow that thread i think you can be on .62 gb rooted, otherwise search for another
After rooting bootloader is NOT unlocked. Unlocking it allows you to install custom kernels in order to improve performance or get more ROMS like cyanogenmod jelly bean. It's a whole different story unlocking it
A kernel tells the device what to do, basically. ROMs are modified system files by users to mod their device. This is really base explained
Jelly bean is still experimental so all roms will have bugs. You need to unlock your bootloader for it
Well, the best would be back up with cwm but you cant, so if you wanna save all your data, search for some backup app
tarunjeet said:
Q1)when i'm done with that can i update n still stay rooted?
Q2) What is bootloader n after following above thread will my bootloader b unlocked? if not do i need to unlock it using this method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1879750
Q3) what are kernels and roms?
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1. Read the last few lines of the first link.
2. Type any "what is" type question in to google before asking here, and read the first link in my sig, will go a long way to helping you understand things a bit better.
XperienceD said:
1. Read the last few lines of the first link.
2. Type any "what is" type question in to google before asking here, and read the first link in my sig, will go a long way to helping you understand things a bit better.
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ok i understood almost everything
i will downgrade n root
then i will unlock bootloader (i know if i do this i will lose drm rights n track id and i will not be able to update ota)
only then i will be able to install kernels n custom roms right?
is there a stable ics rom?:good:
can u recommend a good rom.. there are so many m confused
tarunjeet said:
ok i understood almost everything
i will downgrade n root
then i will unlock bootloader (i know if i do this i will lose drm rights n track id and i will not be able to update ota)
only then i will be able to install kernels n custom roms right?
is there a stable ics rom?:good:
can u recommend a good rom.. there are so many m confused
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Firstly you don't need bootloader unlocked for custom roms(just root is needed) but u need it unlocked for installing custom roms.....and please don't ask about best/fast/good Rom since these type of thread are discouraged and u won't get your answer instead a hell lot of people mocking you for this....please be careful next time
Regards,
AJ
Sent from my SK17i using Tapatalk 2
tarunjeet said:
ok i understood almost everything
i will downgrade n root
then i will unlock bootloader (i know if i do this i will lose drm rights n track id and i will not be able to update ota)
only then i will be able to install kernels n custom roms right?
is there a stable ics rom?:good:
can u recommend a good rom.. there are so many m confused
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You don't need to downgrade to root if you want to unlock the bootloader. Just unlock it and flash a prerooted kernel like rage kernel and you will be rooted and cwm or TWRP recovery are built in
Try some and you will find your personal best rom :good:

[Q] [Huge HELP needed] XMP orange FW

Hello all,
I have Sk17i with 2.3.4 ORANGE firmware, which doesn't allow update to ICS and/or even root. Also, it says, that my bootloader can't be unlocked, so I can't flash other ROM manually. I was looking in this forum something similar but didn't find anything, so I started this topic. I HOPE SOMEONE WILL HELP ME :crying:
XMP LTU said:
Hello all,
I have Sk17i with 2.3.4 ORANGE firmware, which doesn't allow update to ICS and/or even root. Also, it says, that my bootloader can't be unlocked, so I can't flash other ROM manually. I was looking in this forum something similar but didn't find anything, so I started this topic. I HOPE SOMEONE WILL HELP ME :crying:
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Updating from GB to ICS?
Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690704
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730874
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700717
I doubt you real did a search, but anyway some links for you
mauam said:
Updating from GB to ICS?
Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690704
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730874
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700717
I doubt you real did a search, but anyway some links for you
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I doubt you understood me corectlly.. I can't upgrade it with sony companion or update center, because it says, that phone is up to date. I can't update it by flashing it, because my bootloader is locked. I can't unlock my bootloader because my phone says that is not allowed.
U cant flash ftf file using flashtool eventho ur on locked bootloader.
Sent from my SK17i using xda app-developers app
If you think nothing can be done why start the thread, and given that you don't know what you're doing I suggest you READ the links before replying again.
Sent from Myushi
You can flash official ICS .ftf on orange locked bootloader phones using flashtool just fine. I did it a few months ago when I still had locked BL (unlocked it later thanks to WotanServer). I wouldn't recommend updating your phone to ICS if you're a gamer. ICS from sony is a bit slow and honestly I think it's better to stay on GB when you've got locked BL.
Koloses said:
You can flash official ICS .ftf on orange locked bootloader phones using flashtool just fine. I did it a few months ago when I still had locked BL (unlocked it later thanks to WotanServer). I wouldn't recommend updating your phone to ICS if you're a gamer. ICS from sony is a bit slow and honestly I think it's better to stay on GB when you've got locked BL.
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Thank's for your opinion.
But I can't get vice city working on GB ;/

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