Vm heap - Motorola Photon 4G

So i am running a stock rooted photon and i was wondering what people had their vm heapsize and windows max events set to on your phones i keep playing with the settings and i cant quit get everything to be as smooth as i would like. So let me know what you guys think or if there are any other tweaks i am missing. I run adw ex launcher. Thanks
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Use a kernel script like speedy7. Script manager for easy install. You can also look into freezing sprint crap apps. Then there is replacing app server with the ics one.
Or install skinny4g/rocko
To get Mega fast you gotta unlock.
abrcrmdl23 said:
So i am running a stock rooted photon and i was wondering what people had their vm heapsize and windows max events set to on your phones i keep playing with the settings and i cant quit get everything to be as smooth as i would like. So let me know what you guys think or if there are any other tweaks i am missing. I run adw ex launcher. Thanks
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Here is a little more reading about heap size: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242691&highlight=heap

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[Q] Skipping music on GB?

I was wondering if anyone is experiencing the skipping music on the rooted GB just like it was on Froyo?
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I'm on completely stock gingerbread, unrooted, and music skips constantly. I don't even have anything open. This is a terribly programmed phone.
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stock update, no issues as of yet, much smoother than 2.2 was in my experiance. Standard Music app.
Stock froyo - music was essentially unplayable
Rooted froyo with v6 supercharger - flawless music
Rooted gingerbread WITHOUT v6 supercharger - some popping and skipping, in general much better than froyo stock though.
Just curious, what format and bitrate are you playing. It seems not to matter on my end, mp3 at 320 kbs is usually just as bad as a 45 minute podcast that uses 8 megs of space (not sure of the bitrate, but probably 16-32kbs)
Just curious, after sbf finished, did you let the phone boot or wipe it before it booted? Did you wipe from recovery or from within the OS? I let it boot and did the wipe from within the OS. Curious to know what you did.
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Stock froyo - music was essentially unplayable
Rooted froyo with v6 supercharger - flawless music
Rooted gingerbread WITHOUT v6 supercharger - some popping and skipping, in general much better than froyo stock though.
Just curious, what format and bitrate are you playing. It seems not to matter on my end, mp3 at 320 kbs is usually just as bad as a 45 minute podcast that uses 8 megs of space (not sure of the bitrate, but probably 16-32kbs)
Just curious, after sbf finished, did you let the phone boot or wipe it before it booted? Did you wipe from recovery or from within the OS? I let it boot and did the wipe from within the OS. Curious to know what you did.
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Im not sure what bitrate off hand but it is better then Froyo. I had to wipe from stock recovery before the phone booted after I sbf because it was in a boot loop.
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I had major issues on Froyo stock and almost took the phone back because of it. V6 super cleared things up quick and only a slight hiccup at the beginning of the first song played IF the player was close previously.
GB skips a bit and then a lot more when trying to multitask but after upping the heap size that's completely gone.
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GB skips a bit and then a lot more when trying to multitask but after upping the heap size that's completely gone.
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Hmm what did you change the heapsize to?
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diabloking said:
Hmm what did you change the heapsize to?
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Stock was 32 and so pushing it to 36 was all the app would let me do.
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Stock was 32 and so pushing it to 36 was all the app would let me do.
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Did you use the app root tools?
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Could someone please explain how to change the heap size. A few sentences about what that means would also be great. Thanks.
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I used the app below for $1.50 and found it had some really neat stuff to boot so the price was worth it.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrummy.roottools&hl=en
If you open the app it's under Tweaks and Hacks, Build properties, and then Dalvik VM Heap. If you use the "get current vm heap size" it should returned 32 and i chose 36m.
Let me know how that works out for you guys...
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I used the app below for $1.50 and found it had some really neat stuff to boot so the price was worth it.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrummy.roottools&hl=en
If you open the app it's under Tweaks and Hacks, Build properties, and then Dalvik VM Heap. If you use the "get current vm heap size" it should returned 32 and i chose 36m.
Let me know how that works out for you guys...
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Quick question: can't you just change it in the build.prop using a file explorer and text editor?
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Quick question: can't you just change it in the build.prop using a file explorer and text editor?
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Ya im pretty sure you can just root tools is easier imo.
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You can edit it yourself but there's much more to the tool so i opted to pick it up and take the hassle out of modifying some other advanced settings.
Changing the heap size (to 36) did nothing for me, as I still get considerable amounts of popping during audio playback. Are there any other suggestions other than sbfing and installing the update again? Thanks.
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Changing the heap size (to 36) did nothing for me, as I still get considerable amounts of popping during audio playback. Are there any other suggestions other than sbfing and installing the update again? Thanks.
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That used to be a kernel issue on the fascinate. The clock freq. would be slow to ramp up during multitasking with audio playing. The fix was to prevent the cpu from dropping to 100mhz. But you had to have a clockable kernel.
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Root tools also has a build prop editor baked in, you don't have to use the values it suggests.
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i was able to address my pausing music w/ the v6 script. you have to be rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16248470&postcount=27
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i was able to address my pausing music w/ the v6 script. you have to be rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16248470&postcount=27
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n/m I just noticed the title of the thread you linked...

[ROM]GerbilSense-6 Shooter-w/Netarchy Kernel-updt 08/08--MORE GOODIES-THE FASTEST ROM

Hello folks and this is my 1st rom for the Evo 3D. I call it the 6 shooter because it is light weight, fast and deadly
even without overclock this rom is FAST! OC just makes it insane!
This Rom includes all the apps, kernels, tweaks, boobies and such that I like to use. If you don't like something sorry, you can find what you want around these forums and add as you like.
Thanks to Netarchy, I love his Kernels and find them to be the best. Also to Mik (unknowingly) i learned alot from following him and asking questions and tearing his roms apart, visit his page and donate to him because without his work i wouldn't be making this rom !
Included is Netarchy's kernel. I find OC'd to 1.7 gives me a very smooth, fast, stable experience, with outstanding battery life. Now onto some goodies....
Odexed (651.7 base)
Adfree
D7 Google Reader
File Expert (easily mounts system to file alterations)
Bloatware can be destroyed in the settings menu
Removed Crappy ringtones and notifications that bugged me (like my marriage)
Mms no compression (she is fat) and max mms 5mb (default setting)
3D Homescreen Display setting
Hotspot hack with usb tether
Extended reboot menu
Browser settings popped loose
Browser tabs unlimited (go wild)
Hidden quicksettings now visible
Removed GPS icon when not in use (thanx Mik)
Removed the ultra annoying (like a nagging wife) USB debug icon (thanks again Mik, love your ideas)
Known Issues
-hot restart in the menu doesn't work, requires battery pull.
Normal and hot restart is determined by the fastboot option in the power settings.
There are not screenies because it is stock..and if you don't know what stock looks like, well you don't have the phone
***Disclaimer***you the end user assumes all the risk and responsibility with flashing this or any rom. I will not buy you a new phone, send you money, give you a voucher or any compensation you can think of because you destroyed your phone. Thanks.
older links removed, onto better things below.............................................
Updated 8/07/2011
-removed more bloat such as
-HTC widgets were removed beside music and calender
-mail app (gmail is all is use, if you need it search forums, its there)
-couple of framework thingAmAjigs
-460mb of ram available
-new Alpharev boot animation
-panoramic camera added
-sync and phone icon missing fixed.
-Green overscroll and sync fix included in zip below
-Battery percentage
Updated 8/8
-removed even more bloat--now 490 free ram---if you flash, skip setup, reboot then look at task manager you will have 470-490mb of ram free
-attatched is stock task bar--will free up even more ram!
When you setup accounts, set up your google first, finish and let it sync. Then you can do all the rest. Noticed for some reason it helps.
Download Here
OR HERE
Many questions about why i removed the email app, because i think it was worthless. I use this one because its faster, and better for enterprise, its from the Epic 4G. Thanks
Thanks to JoelZ9614!!! Panoramic camera-if you downloaded a previous version of this rom otherwise as of 8/6 9:37 EST it is included in rom-push to /system/app...download here
removed widgets-(CLICK THIS ENTIRE LINK TO DOWNLOAD)---place the ones you want in /system/app folder and reboot---if you dont' see it when you click widget at top it will say "browse all HTC widgets and it will be there.
SYNC FIX WITH GREEN OVERSCROLL DOWNLOAD HERE
odexed or deodexed?
Sweet! more DEV
If I may, What base rom was used?
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odexed or deodexed?
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Odex..thanks forgot to put that in OP
Only 3mb. Download wrong.
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wilderckw said:
Only 3mb. Download wrong.
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Link was tested, slow but works...you must have made some mistake..mirror coming up soon
Tried twice and is only a few megs.
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Tried twice and is only a few megs.
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Lots of downloads and you're are the first to have it. Wait for the mirror coming in a few minutes. Hopefully that helps you out. Thanks.
This is a nice ROM keep up the good work. Update. keep it alive.
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This rom is fast. I just had a problem with the mms compression though. 5mb is not available under mms settings.
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inoskedu8o8 said:
This rom is fast. I just had a problem with the mms compression though. 5mb is not available under mms settings.
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Its set as default
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Its set as default
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For some reason it still compresses the picture a lot though. Is anyone else getting this? Any help is appreciated.
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Nice to see another odexed rom.. wish there were more
loving this ROM.. nicely done man
oc'd at 1.7 is insaaaaane
EDIT - I can't seem to get the 'phone' app on my lockscreen.. any ideas?.. it's not in the app menu either , not a big deal, just odd
klubhead said:
loving this ROM.. nicely done man
oc'd at 1.7 is insaaaaane
EDIT - I can't seem to get the 'phone' app on my lockscreen.. any ideas?.. it's not in the app menu either , not a big deal, just odd
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Hmm, mine is there...i'll look into it.
Phone icon on lockscreen issue has been resolved, sorry but you must reflash the rom to correct the issue. Thanks.
Gotta say... Coming from the Droid x where there were like 4 Roms total, I've gone totally flash happy. I've flashed nearly nearly every ROM out there, and this one is awesome!
It might look stock, but it screams along!
Good job!
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Anyone else missing a People widget?
I'll re-flash and see if it was just a bug or something.
wont let me download
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This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!
Kernel?...
Where can I find the Netarchy Kernel you have used for this Rom?

Super charger script

Wow I just ran the super charger 1000 HP and WOW what an improvement. Just heads up for you guys to try it
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What are you talking about I'm intrigued.
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Go to this URL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15948434&postcount=1127
Go to the bottom, download the last attachment...I've that's a pdf, beta 9 6.3. Next go to market download script manager. open script manager, browse as root, then go to you're download location of the file and click on it. Within new menu, clock on SUn near top then click run. Follow the instruction and when all the option show up select option #9, super 1000 HP. Let it finish when the option show up again choose option 26 to reboot. Let it reboot etc. after it reboots open script manager then go to this directory: /data
Look for the 99 super charger.sh file that was created, select it. In new menu select SU and BOOT. Then click safe, then finally turn it off and let it reboot. And voila enjoy your super charged phone.... I noticed a HUGE IMPROVEMENT is sharpness and responsiveness.
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Another vote for it here. Works great.
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do you have the pdf it is not on there no more
Any difference in Benchmarks? I've noticed in other devices this makes gaming laggy
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maxjivi05 said:
Any difference in Benchmarks? I've noticed in other devices this makes gaming laggy
sent from AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note Dual Core 1.83 GHz
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Pretty much the same in AnTuTu and CF Bench for me. What is smoother is the overall UI experience. I don't do much gaming on the Note, I have a TF101 with emulators for gaming if I want to play some mobile games.
I used to run this on my Infuse but was not sure if I wanted to try on my new Note. With no CWM to do a Nandroid backup just in case.
Just installed it and it works great as usual!
Thanks for testing this out!
I'll post the pdf in a few
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I used to use that on my dell streak and it worked.
I find that ROM TOOLBOX provides a more refined way to alter the OOM settings, plus you can increase SD card speeds, access build.prop, sys ctl tweaks - plus u can run them at bootup too... It's a lot easier - give it a try
i followed the instructions. Can someone explain what this actually does, in English?
This thread should be moved to Development.
Does seem to make the device more responsive. I can actually use ADW EX launcher again. Before I did this it had considerable more lag. Now it's almost like using a custom ROM on my SkyRocket.
u have to be rooted though?
i didnt really want to root until CWM and roms are out
and something to prevent triangle and flash count
Root is required to run script manager.
Works great on my Note. Helped to smooth it out and give it a litttle more speed.
When I was on the Infuse a lot of the DEV's included it in their ROM's
changes the out of memory (OOM) settings - androids native task manager - helps keep your launcher in memory too, most ppl will notice that you see ReDraws a lot less and smoother/snappier scrolling
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Root is required to run script manager.
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would'a been nice to know ahead of time, tx for posting Dave.
needs to be moved to AT&T Galaxy Note I717 Android Development i agree.
I used the Super Charge Script on my Epic and Epic Touch so I am familiar with how it makes the device smoother/snappier. But I do have a question. If you have programs like Facebook, Wordfeud, weather apps, timelines, etc., set to check for updates and alerts say every hour, will this kill them to free up RAM and keep you from receiving updates? I never seemed to have any problems with my Epic, but want to know for sure how it works.
Says i don't have
You don't have a /data/local.prop!
BUILD.PROP to be SuperCharged!
This can cause boot loops...
...so have a backup available!
And keyboard won't pop up
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Dsmforlife92 said:
Says i don't have
You don't have a /data/local.prop!
BUILD.PROP to be SuperCharged!
This can cause boot loops...
...so have a backup available!
And keyboard won't pop up
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same Problems here.
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TouchWiz refreshing / redrawing

Hey guys
I've noticed if I'm in an app for a while and hit the home screen or go back to the launcher it refreshes. I see a blank screen (wallpaper only) and I can see the icons and dock get redrawn. I've had the galaxy note before this and that phone never did it. It takes between 2 and 3 seconds to redraw.
It happens with other launchers too.
Anyone know why? It's quite annoying.
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Confirming. Maybe a software issue.
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My best guess would be that the system is low on resources and kills off the launcher. The launcher's OOM value might be too high.
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So best hope at this stage is a custom Rom which addresses the issue??
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Yeah, some sort of "keep launcher in memory" would be nice to have. We won't get this until we get better custom roms though.
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Post to confirm as well. I have also some app lock ups.
This post solved the problem for me. Haven't had the Launcher reload since (Requires Root):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27045272&postcount=15
Try using Apex as that has a "keep in memory" option, Im on Omega v3.0 aswel which I advise all of you to do!
Good luck guys
Post to confirm im facing the same issue
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Does anyone know if the Custom ROM 'Omega v4.0' for the Galaxy S3 has the option (like Apex Launcher) to KEEP IN MEMORY..?
The ONE and ONLY reason i want to change ROMs is because my homescreen widgets and icons are CONSTANTLY re-drawing whenever i exit an app, and its WINDING ME UP!
Does the same for any other launcher!!
Apex launcher (whilst kept in memory) seems to be better, but i would prefer the stock launcher so was thinking of changing to the Omega ROM.
Can the Omega v4.0 ROM be 'KEPT IN MEMORY'..?
No, it does not include a keep in memory function. You could try the SuperCharger script though to make your launcher hard to kill.
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system/ build.prop tweaks
member68 said:
Yeah, some sort of "keep launcher in memory" would be nice to have. We won't get this until we get better custom roms though.
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This works for me.........
Faster home screen scrolling; change value 256m > 128m ;
dalvik.vm.heapsize=128m
Force launcher to stay in memory; add to build.prop
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
Doubt it's placebo, but seems to be working Very little redraw with TW Launcher
Edit: Just make sure you still have ONE clear space as the last line after editing with the in-phone text editor and reboot for changes to stick.
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This works for me.........
Faster home screen scrolling; change value 256m > 128m ;
dalvik.vm.heapsize=128m
Force launcher to stay in memory; add to build.prop
ro.home_app_adj=1
Doubt it's placebo, but seems to be working Very little redraw with TW Launcher
Edit: Just make sure you still have ONE clear space as the last line after editing with the in-phone text editor and reboot for changes to stick.
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Made these changes, been going for half hour so far and FINALLY noticing a difference! Time will tell obviously but for once things like exiting the Market (Play Store) arent making my launcher need to re-draw widgets and icons!
YOU ARE A LEGEND!!
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Made these changes, been going for half hour so far and FINALLY noticing a difference! Time will tell obviously but for once things like exiting the Market (Play Store) arent making my launcher need to re-draw widgets and icons!
YOU ARE A LEGEND!!
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No problem at all.
Credit though to whoever first discovered the tweak, just sharing and trying to help out. I've previously cooked these tweaks (and others) into personal ROMs, and also found in allot of custom public released ROMs I've flashed on various devices here in XDA.
I don't think its placebo, and can see greatly reduced TW Launcher redraw. Clock/weather widget is much better.
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Sobai said:
This post solved the problem for me. Haven't had the Launcher reload since (Requires Root):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27045272&postcount=15
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Nope, just reloaded with 128m. Will try the ro.home_app_adj=1 now.
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No problem at all.
Credit though to whoever first discovered the tweak, just sharing and trying to help out. I've previously cooked these tweaks (and others) into personal ROMs, and also found in allot of custom public released ROMs I've flashed on various devices here in XDA.
I don't think its placebo, and can see greatly reduced TW Launcher redraw. Clock/weather widget is much better.
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I started a thread based on this tweak and later came to know that those build. Prop tweaks won't work on ics and hence deleted the thread. Personally I felt the redraw reduced to some extent,may be a placebo effect
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I started a thread based on this tweak and later came to know that those build. Prop tweaks won't work on ics and hence deleted the thread. Personally I felt the redraw reduced to some extent,may be a placebo effect
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Personally only tested with TW launcher. Seems to do a better job than without, but not always.
Were you using with TW or market launcher?
Secondly, did you use capitals (where required) and reboot after?
Placebo, who knows, all I can say it appears to lessen redraw on TW, never implied eliminate.
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Confirming I also have this issue.
I've read some people saying the new firmware update should fix this issue. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
If not, then I will probably have to look into rooting my phone, getting a bit tired of freeing up RAM every 1½ day.
Perm solution is to increase the ram
That should be the reason why they increase the RAM from 1GB to 2GB
I will be doing it as soon as i can source the 2GB RAM from eBay.
Anyone know this?
1. firware upgrade does not fix this issue
2. if this doesn't happen on the S2 then there is no way this is a ram related issue. it's a software related issue maybe not managing ram correctly. but it can be fixed with a software solution.

CM9 DX2 gutting

I came from a blackberry where gutting the os is a way of life.
What all can be removed without affecting function, while freeing up space?
So far, from system/apps, I have dropped most of the live wallpapers and apps I don't use
I have tried deleting ringtones I don't use but that put me into a boot loop and had to wipe and reload.
Any ideas on how to safely delete more useless files?
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it really doesn't gain you anything other than a placebo effect if you are used to devices with less than sufficient memory. The Dx2 has lots of memory and CM9 doesn't come with bloatware.
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it really doesn't gain you anything other than a placebo effect if you are used to devices with less than sufficient memory. The Dx2 has lots of memory and CM9 doesn't come with bloatware.
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Really?
From what I have already cleaned up I can tell a difference is less lock ups already. The available ram went from 86% used to 69%
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Freezing some apps will free RAM, especially on services you don't use if those apps run by default. However the live wallpaper apk is not running if you aren't using one from that package, therefore it is redundant. If you don't use corporate exchange, try freezing the email.apk and the exchange.apk. If you feel adventurous, nandroid your cm9 and freeze all the apps that don't look important. If you get stuck with a bootloop, simply nandroid back. Simple.
I recommend freezing RomManager (we can't use it).
It wont free up RAM, but it will stop Google Play from updating it.
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What I have been doing is each morning I freeze one app, I use my phone all day and if there are no problems I delete it the next morning and freeze a new one.
So far I think I've done some good with my phone since I have deleted everything I can from the system folder.
The trick to deleting ringtones is confirm all profiles are set to the same ringer and notification. Then delete all the others.
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Really?
From what I have already cleaned up I can tell a difference is less lock ups already. The available ram went from 86% used to 69%
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Well then you have done something amazing, since the Android memory manage strives to keep RAM around 80% full all the time, by design and that's how it works best. If you remove every single app you should be able to achieve around 90% free and everything should run like liquid butter. And yes, this Alpha is more stable if you do not touch the phone or run anything.
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Well then you have done something amazing, since the Android memory manage strives to keep RAM around 80% full all the time, by design and that's how it works best. If you remove every single app you should be able to achieve around 90% free and everything should run like liquid butter. And yes, this Alpha is more stable if you do not touch the phone or run anything.
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Grab a 50lbs weight and go run up a hill. Now do it again with 20lbs. What's easier running with more useless weight or less?
I loaded a task manager widget that shows percentage of memory used (ram) i went from 60/404 to 123/404 after dropping useless files.
With all due respect the Android OS is nothing more than an Iphone with Blackberry problems. I have used all 3 i like Droid best but it has room for improvement, as everything does.
Im applying what i learned from the BBos to this one and it appears to work. Now you can be a negative fly on the wall all you want but someone else will read this topic and try it. Once a few do it and my results are duplicated you'll see it was useful to try something
Plus what's the worst that happens, you boot loop and have to reload?
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Just a little check in.
I booted up this morning at 193/404 that's using 52% ram
I took everything out of system/apps i could and cleaned any app off my phone i don't or can't use. I also enabled "long hold back button to kill apps" instead of jumping back to the home screen when im done in an app i kill it.
All the above are habits i learned to service on a blackberry.
I wish more people would try and get my results.
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with all due respect unless you have rewritten the Android OS, it simply doesn't work like that.
. Android likes to keep memory about 70-80 % full once it settles so that when it needs a task you were using before its faster to reactivate it than to load from scratch. You can kill things, but the OS will load them again anyway. If you fight that with 3rd party mem / task managers, it will degrade performance, not improve it. But if you insist on believing some fantasy about memory management. by all means ....
Maybe im wording this wrong.
Would it help if i changed the title to gutting an android.
I love CM9, ive even bought the developer a case of beer. Hahaha
Im not doubting what the system wants to do. Im just trying to guide it better by removing worthless files and managing ram with white and black lists.
For example I dont need dropbox to be running in the background when im not using it.
Make sense
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JStiner said:
Maybe im wording this wrong.
Would it help if i changed the title to gutting an android.
I love CM9, ive even bought the developer a case of beer. Hahaha
Im not doubting what the system wants to do. Im just trying to guide it better by removing worthless files and managing ram with white and black lists.
For example I dont need dropbox to be running in the background when im not using it.
Make sense
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You will notice a big Jump in performance if you stop using a task manager.
You are better off playing with min free values and oom adj values.
I understand removing apps and files you don't use, I.do the same thing on my nexus.
But when it comes down to it, the task manager app is REALLY doing more harm than good. Of course when you use the task manager its going to seem like its doing what you want it to, thats how the apps are written, so that you FEEL like you're getting results you want.
Fact is, task managers haven't been needed in android OS for a log time now. Most ESPECIALLY if you are running an ICS based rom.
Trust me, if you wanna see an increase in overall smoothness, mess with min free and oom settings, and dump the task manager.
Or just keep doing what you're doing, just don't get offended when almost everyone tells you that clearing apps from memory and using task manager to kill apps is doing more harm then good.
There is a HUGE difference between an app RUNNING in background, and an app being cached in RAM. If you go to your manage apps list in settings and go to running apps, you most likely won't have many apps actually running and hogging system resources. If you switch to the cached tab you SHOULD see lots of apps in cache. Which means next time you open them it will open faster and use A LOT LESS CPU to get it going.
I do agree with getting rid of appd and files you don't use tho. I have ALWAYS felt that removing apps that are cached in ram that I do not use, will give more space for apps that I DO use to be cached.
But a task manager will not grant you that ability.
I feel like i learned something new today
Thank you
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JStiner said:
I feel like i learned something new today
Thank you
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I also just wanna apologize, I didnt mean to come off condescending (I just re read what I posted Lol)
was just trying to inform a bit.
Any questions don't hesitate to ask. Android operates like.Linux, but not EXACTLY like Linux even tho it is VERY similar. A good thread to read on how is memory management works is the official v6supercharger thread started by zeppelinrox. That guy has torn thru the android os on the memory management level and his first few posts in that thread(even tho they may not make the most sense to you at first) have a LOT of valuable info in them.
ashclepdia said:
I also just wanna apologize, I didnt mean to come off condescending (I just re read what I posted Lol)
was just trying to inform a bit.
Any questions don't hesitate to ask. Android operates like.Linux, but not EXACTLY like Linux even tho it is VERY similar. A good thread to read on how is memory management works is the official v6supercharger thread started by zeppelinrox. That guy has torn thru the android os on the memory management level and his first few posts in that thread(even tho they may not make the most sense to you at first) have a LOT of valuable info in them.
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No harm done. Tone is hard to convey through text. I read everything in a mono tone voice ans pull from it what i need.
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Holy hell v6supercharger is the way to go, my music doesn't skip anymore.
Now if i could just get my home and back button switched back hahaha.
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could try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403013
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sd_shadow said:
could try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403013
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Genius, i flipped a few numbers around and it works normal again.
Never would have figured that out.
Thank you.
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JStiner said:
Holy hell v6supercharger is the way to go, my music doesn't skip anymore.
Now if i could just get my home and back button switched back hahaha.
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Did you also turn on the option.in v6supercharger for the nitro lag nullifier also? It used to be option #20 i believe.
I always did and i swear, (placebo or not), it used to smooth out everything even more.
Then on top of v6, i would also run Kick ass kernelizer(KAK) with. I/O tweaks implemented (make a nandroid first just in case it bootloops ya..if it bootloops just pull battery and.put back in then plug phone into wall,.it will.boot BSR(since our bsr hijacks charge.mode) & you can restore nandroid) and it would be even more buttery.
Enjoy!
I'm glad I could help turn you away from task managers/killers
Your Android experience should improve greatly
Did the kak at lunch. Running nicely so far.
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JStiner said:
Holy hell v6supercharger is the way to go, my music doesn't skip anymore.
Now if i could just get my home and back button switched back hahaha.
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Did cm9 switch the buttons? I've been wanting to flash either cm9 or paranoid android just haven't had time to yet.
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